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yummylookintoks:
Ode!!!! Go and watch Yoruba movies and see some actors speaking Egun and Awori. If I speak my dialect to someone that was born and brought up in Lagos, he/she would be like " what the Bleep is he saying"?" but I ll still remain a Yoruba man.

Go and watch Egun and Awori Saturday/Sundary show programs on TV and see pure Yorubaness in them.

Stop embarrassing yourself in a public forum. Egun is not a Yoruboid language, let alone a Yoruba dialect.

InvertedHammer:
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Good observation.

But he had money to build almajiri schools in the North, but none to deliver common electricity to his town or to build federal roads in the SS. People cry against marginalization because they feel that their interests are not being protected at the center. When a son-of-the-soil holds all the aces and couldn't protect the interests of his constituency to bridge many years of lopsided development, then it becomes height of carelessness and naivety.
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Wouldn't like to join issues with anyone on this, but you might be quick to talk about almajiri schools but didn't know he built a university in Otuoke. What about the $16billion export processing zone in Bayelsa/Delta that has been the object of bickering amongst the Ijaws, Urhobos and Istekiris??

You see? All that "he did nothing for his people" are just mere emotional tantrums.

Er0ticAngela:
This is a very good news. The project should remin in Lagos State. If the arguement for the decongestion of Lagos holds water, then the project should be relocated to either Ogun state or Ondo state both in the SouthWest, both states also have access to the Atlantic Ocean and crude oil deposits

Jonathan should enjoin his Niger Delta kinsmen to build such for them too in Bayelsa state. Mr Ladi Jadesinmi's project SHALL REMAIN IN THE SOUTH WEST

facilitator you said

tsdarkside:
i propose,if igbos dont get reasonable und bring progressiv solutions to improve nigeria in this forum......

WE BAN ALL IGBOS FROM NAIRALAND,,,

heavens,,,,igbos must become patriotic-nigerians or GET LOST!!!!....

U ARE MAD!!!!

PenSniper:
Does he know what due diligence means ? A president who does not know the difference between a private-funded and govt-funded project. What a shame. Someone should please tell Gej to go back to school. He has been a poor product of his certificate and alma matta.

IzonOwei:
this thing dey vex me...well now we can open our eyes and fight for the right things...sincce jona no rest for ona hand buhari no go rest too..this time the fight would have direction like a vector quantity..

I hope. Direction has always been lacking in the ND struggle. Asari got his share and travelled to Cotonou to empower a foreign economy. If he was fighting for folks like you, why didn't he site it in Izon land?

He and the kaduna Mafia have the same goal: personal enrichment and aggrandizement.

Kennywills7:
Nice info, am still finding information on project and u made a valid point and not some dat are just here to protect d Yoruba interest not minding What happens to other places which have a valid point or reason to b angry at d happening in Nigeria, mind u this is not about Jonathan losing d elections but its about our collective will in d Niger Delta
The Nigeria structure is aim at milking d Niger Delta dry while others benefit,
Believe it or not It's d Niger Delta oil that is still keeping this country together
Lets assume d oil suddenly dried up what then happens to d Niger delta people whose land has bn destroyed by this oil exploration?
what are d structures put in place to help d Niger Delta out if this happen?

I am of d opinion that anything pertaining to oil especially if fed govt is involved should b located in d Niger Delta!
Even our ministries are either in Lagos or in abuja which is wrong

I feel your pain bro.
There are tons of cash in the ND
The problem is they don't have good leaders leaders.
What has Uduaghan done with so much money?
Akpabio couldn't join hands with other governors to build a seaport for that region?
Are the people of Rivers happy after Amaechi's tenure?
Cross river has just gone into oblivion in the world of headlines.
Oshiomole nko? What are his major achievements?


See man its the same in the SW too
Most of these men aren't doing nothing and the people aren't making demands.
The enlightened ones won't sayy a word and the uenlightened ones don't even know the government is there to server them.
And trust me on this man, its the same up North.


Which brings us back to the people.
If we don't unify ourselves and talk sense into these people by our actions and our inactions, they won't sit up!


We should be a lil bit radical, I don't mean terrorism but let us add more radicalism with the way we handle people who don't perform their duties!

Kennywills7:
Well, am well aware of most of d things u wrote however u don't have to insult me to make a point
Secondly everything u said its wot we in Niger delta are fighting against today
pls if u will quote me again don't insult me. Be polite in presenting ur points. Thank u

If u felt insulted, apologies.

One thing I want you to realise is Regionalism MUST precede Secession, except you want to go through the path of barrels and blood.

ND should make their call for regionalism and resource control. You need to learn how to hide your objective in the midst of advocating for a collective beneficial cause.

Diplomacy and alliance with key regions also matters.

The voice of the likes of Dokubo can never make anybody take ND serious. Until highly cerebral people that can engage in logical and convincing argument take up the battle.

To be candid I feel the pain of ND, but let us tell ourselves the absolute truth, your leaders are not helping the cause. They are the ones sabotaging your efforts. Name one Government you did not have a viable voice? None.

squaddy:
you are one of the biggest slowpoke on this platform. Now you have seen who your enemies are. Good morning you hear? Tomorrow you will open your gutter and insult the Igbo race. Nonsense urhobo boy.

Iv not seen a comedian in d making like dat clown!!! He shud just join his brothers Akpororo, Bovi and co in deir stock in trade!!! Mumu!!!

Er0ticAngela:
This is a very good news. The project should remin in Lagos State. If the arguement for the decongestion of Lagos holds water, then the project should be relocated to either Ogun state or Ondo state both in the SouthWest, both states also have access to the Atlantic Ocean and crude oil deposits

Jonathan should enjoin his Niger Delta kinsmen to build such for them too in Bayelsa state. Mr Ladi Jadesinmi's project SHALL REMAIN IN THE SOUTH WEST

Cc EroticAngela...

Break up Nigeria for the following benefits:

1. Nigeria as a third-party construct was put together without due consent of the actual members of the union or taking into consideration the feelings and cultural sensitivities of any of the people concerned.

2. The union from the onset is faulty because the fundamental ingredients that make any social contract or society work were lacking. Such a thing like religious/cultural affinity is just non-existent amongst the peoples of Nigeria.

3. It is believed that all successful unions, relationships, marriages, societies, etc are those in which members can communicate among themselves in a clear language that every party to the arrangement understands. Therefore the most important element in forming a union that works becomes the commonality of language. In Nigeria that is absent.

4. For a relationship or union to work there must be common objectives, goals, or destiny that everyone in it must subscribe to or aspire toward. The Muslim North and West of Nigeria surely have different agendas and goals from those of Christian and Animist Igbo/Biafra people.

5. It is only based on when all members of the society can have a common objective will they be able to work together, trusting one another knowing that they are all headed toward the same direction even when the details of their methods and minor views differ it is still understood and rooms or provisions are made for those diversities so that no one takes up arms to kill the others. Such understanding is completely non-existent in Nigeria. No tolerance of views that are unislamic is present in Nigeria.

6. There is mutual suspicion amongst the different peoples of the Nigerian union and no one is even making attempt at tolerating the other.

7. Islamic jihadist project against Igbo/Biafra people and the other non Muslim population of the failed Nigerian experiment is so overt and boiling over and it is continuous.

8. Historically, a heinous atrocity had been visited on Igbo/Biafra people. 45 years ago the greatest genocide on the African continent was committed by Nigeria and its citizens against the other supposedly fellow citizens, the Igbo/Biafra people and, they murdered 3.1 million of that group all because of hatred and intolerance.

9. The same Igbo/Biafra people were not only denied their right to life in the genocidal act but they were also dispossessed of their material wealth and possessions. After the killings, bombing and near-annihilation of the Igbo/Biafra ethnic group and total destruction of the physical structures of Biafran people and land, Nigeria took away ownership of all the real estate properties that once belonged to Igbo/Biafrans wherever they were located in Nigeria. In the same vein Nigeria also denied Igbo/Biafra people access to their bank deposits. Instead they handed to each Igbo/Biafran depositors 20 pounds of Nigeria’s money no matter the millions or thousands that they had in the banks prior to the time.

10. Like we earlier said, this list is endless but let’s just say that there is no compatibility and there will never be a time when there will between the Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani and the Igbo/Biafra people. There is no commonality of interests as a society, let each group go their separate ways. That is wisdom and that is the only truth.

pazienza:
Stop embarrassing yourself in a public forum. Egun is not a Yoruboid language, let alone a Yoruba dialect.

So says an Osu ibo from the jungles of Enugu-Ukwu, telling us which dialect is Yoruboid or not.

Jonathan, your Ijaw master scammed you gullible lot with a phanthom 2nd Niger Bridge and Ibaka seaport.

The Yorubas arent f00lish like you, they wouldnt fold their arms and watch a huge project such as this, which is largely owned by their son Mr Jadesinmi, or whatever is name is, taken away from their land.

superstar1:
Banks of course.

They employ more than oil companies. The financial services industry -- stocks, banks, insurance, discount houses, etc contributes far more that oil.

agreed.
going by salary, 1 young engineer's salary in shell Lagos = 5 bankers salary.
what can render my argument invalid is if the taxes deducted in the salary of 1 shell engineer is lesser than the tax deducted from the 5 bankers.

Do you think that LAGOS STATE needs your oil to survive?

fastguy10:
One Nigeria is a big fraud

Which court stops jonathan from relocating $500m oil project from lagos to bayelsa

lagos is nt one of d oil producing state in Nigeria and them can never be

Gej if u dnt ignore dat court n do ur wish I will nt be happy wt u at all we deserve it becos it is our right

DS ONE NIGERIA IS A BIG FRAUD

manie:
Corporate tax, mining tax, petroleum tax are paid to the FGN, LASG gets PAYE, property tax, land use tax.

It is is from the corporate tax, mining tax and petroleum taxes that the big bucks are made by FGN through Federal Inland revenue

thanks for educating me.
sir if you followed the issue of NLNG relocating from lagos to PH, you will discover that the tax paid by nlng to lasg was part of what made rivers state government then to push that nlng be relocated to rivers state.
moreover the PITA (personal income tax) paid by this IOC is not small oo. and i heard PITA is being paid to LASG.

shaboti:
Im confused. Who is fightin against who on this thread

hahahaha...dont worry...its everybody against everybody...its normal in nigeria...

anyaekekehinde:
agreed.
going by salary, 1 young engineer's salary in shell Lagos = 5 bankers salary.
what can render my argument invalid is if the taxes deducted in the salary of 1 shell engineer is lesser than the tax deducted from the 5 bankers.

.it is only the shell chevron or mobil workers that are working in Lagos alone that their PAYEE is remitted to Lagos.

Taxes of various branches of any company are remitted to the state where such is located. A branch of Zenith Bank in Owerri remits it's PAYEE to Imo State Government and not Lagos.

What is the population of the Oil workers in relation to the total population of financial industry workers in Lagos?


Financial industry, Shipping industry, entertainment and aviation industry make Lagos thick and not oil.

PDPwayoo:
before Chevron, Lagos has been a mega city in Africa more than 100 years ago.... OK WHY CANT JONATHAN TURN BAYELSA TO LAGOS IF HE WAS GOOD FOR THE JOB?
IF JEG COULDN'T DO IT FOR HIS STATE, WHO WILL DO?

GEJ couldn't build one single factory in bayelsa, so who is to blame? giving amnesty and contracts to militants can never bring development....there is no job in Bayelsa and there is no infrastructure in bayelsa.

IF MARIAM IBB, CAN INFLUENCE ASABA TO BE THE CAPITAL OF DELTA STATE .... WHY CANT GEJ INFLUENCE BAYELSA WITH REASONABLE FEDERAL PROJECTS THAT WILL BENEFIT HIS PEOPLE?
instead they made PEJ mama piss the PS to ministry of education... the position of PS is not for politicians is for civil servants.
GEJ AND PEJ DONT KNOW WHY THEY ARE IN ASO ROCK.

im sure ADAMA MUAZU influenced more federal projects to his people than GEJ did to Bayelsa

Agreed, my argument is not about GEJ or PEJ, its about the people of niger - delta

same way it is not right for cocoa processing industry to be in kano when cocoa is being produced majorly in ondo state and other south west state.

can you imagine, we have a refinery at kaduna, do you know the cost of constructing pipeline from niger delta to kaduna, it doesn't make sense.

if we mention oil in nigeria today, its not because of lagos state, its because of Bayelsa, Rivers, delta i.e the lower Niger states.
so anything oil related should favour bayelsa more that Lagos state.

superstar1:
.it is only the shell chevron or mobil workers that are working in Lagos alone that their PAYEE is remitted to Lagos.

Taxes of various branches of any company are remitted to the state where such is located. A branch of Zenith Bank in Ower right remits it's PAYEE to Imo State Government and not Lagos.

What is the population of the Oil workers in relation to the total population of financial industry workers in Lagos?


Financial industry, Shipping industry, entertainment and aviation industry make Lagos thick and not oil.

well what you said is valid and true, in aggregate effect, Lagos will still do well without oil, my argument is that oil activities has equally been a blessing to Lagos state. i mean all activities surrounding the oil&gas industry.

anyaekekehinde:
Agreed, my argument is not about GEJ or PEJ, its about the people of niger - delta

same way it is not right for cocoa processing industry to be in kano when cocoa is being produced majorly in ondo state and other south west state.

can you imagine, we have a refinery at kaduna, do you know the cost of constructing pipeline from niger delta to kaduna, it doesn't make sense.

if we mention oil in nigeria today, its not because of lagos state, its because of Bayelsa, Rivers, delta i.e the lower Niger states.

realy ,there is a refinery in kaduna??...what rubbish.... ...

I think just like the south-east, the Niger Delta region has also been plagued with bad leaders who are after nothing but to enrich their personal pockets and that is where one has to envy to an extent our brothers from the south-west when it comes to their leaders and holding them accountable, the yorubas in "most" cases are ready to condemn and totally deny you once you are found guilty of any wrong doing or misappropriation of funds while in public office but we would rather scream neglect and selective justice when our own brothers are found guilty i.e those fellows who went about carrying placards that their sister be left alone even after she was found guilty as a minister and went further to elect her a senator in that same state, I'm not saying the south-west is more developed or advanced though I'm saying they to an "extent" don't take rubbish from their elected officials like we from other parts of the country do especially the Niger-delta region

stan241:
I think just like the south-east, the Niger Delta region has also been plagued with bad leaders who are after nothing but to enrich their personal pockets and that is where one has to envy to an extent our brothers from the south-west when it comes to their leaders and holding them accountable, the yorubas in "most" cases are ready to condemn and totally deny you once you are found guilty of any wrong doing or misappropriation of funds while in public office but we would rather scream neglect and selective justice when our own brothers are found guilty i.e those fellows who went about carrying placards that their sister be left alone even after she was found guilty as a minister and went further to elect her a senator in that same state, I'm not saying the south-west is more developed or advanced though I'm saying they to an "extent" don't take rubbish from their elected officials like we from other parts of the country do especially the Niger-delta region

i share same opinion with you sir

anyaekekehinde:
well what you said is valid and true, in aggregate effect, Lagos will still do well without oil, my argument is that oil activities has equally been a blessing to Lagos state. i mean all activities surrounding the oil&gas industry.

The only state that has the financial muscle to support the Oil &Gas is Lagos because that is the Financial Centre of West Africa.

By and large, Lagos will always benefit from Oil &Gas directly or indirectly.

Do you know ho many deals happening in the world that is cemented in NY, London and Hong Kong, without those deals being in the countries where those financial centres are located.

anyaekekehinde:
Agreed, my argument is not about GEJ or PEJ, its about the people of niger - delta

same way it is not right for cocoa processing industry to be in kano when cocoa is being produced majorly in ondo state and other south west state.

can you imagine, we have a refinery at kaduna, do you know the cost of constructing pipeline from niger delta to kaduna, it doesn't make sense.

if we mention oil in nigeria today, its not because of lagos state, its because of Bayelsa, Rivers, delta i.e the lower Niger states.
so anything oil related should favour bayelsa more that Lagos state.

Niger delta people can not do it themselves without good leaders.........we need leaders not thieves. if we start fighting fulani today, next week u will see northern elders and our southern politicians cutting cake and celebration. undermining the death or struggle of the masses.
NOTHING IS STOPPING BAYELSA OR DELTA TO BUILD HOUSING ESTATE OR OVERHEAD BRIDGES AND BEAUTIFUL STREETS LIKE IKEJA AND ISLAND..... our leaders dont do that, they use the money to buy SUV cars and properties for themselves then after 8 years they blame fulani man that won election.

BAYELSA IS VERY SMALL IN TERMS OF SIZE AND POPULATION... VERY LITTLE ROADS TO BUILD AND ONLY FEW BRIDGES BUILT. WHERE R THEY PUTTING THEIR ALLOCATION?.

PDPwayoo:
Niger delta people can not do it themselves without good leaders.........we need leaders not thieves. if we start fighting fulani today, next week u will see northern elders and our southern politicians cutting cake and celebration. undermining the death or struggle of the masses.
NOTHING IS STOPPING BAYELSA OR DELTA TO BUILD HOUSING ESTATE OR OVERHEAD BRIDGES AND BEAUTIFUL STREETS LIKE IKEJA AND ISLAND..... our leaders dont do that, they use the money to buy SUV cars and properties for themselves then after 8 years they blame fulani man that won election.

BAYELSA IS VERY SMALL IN TERMS OF SIZE AND POPULATION... VERY LITTLE ROADS TO BUILD AND ONLY FEW BRIDGES BUILT. WHERE R THEY PUTTING THEIR ALLOCATION?.

without sentiment, i have to agree with your point, i served in the Niger delta so i know what you are talking about.
Nobody can help them unless they help their selves.

IzonOwei:
this thing dey vex me...well now we can open our eyes and fight for the right things...sincce jona no rest for ona hand buhari no go rest too..this time the fight would have direction like a vector quantity..

Fight if you want! Who will lose? 177 M Nigerians Vs 3 M Bayelsans? But not all of the 3 M are so senseless like you and your cowardly GEJ. If you fight, your people will lose out like the greedy ibos who wanted all Nigeria for themselves alone. If you destroy pipelines and massive oil spills destroy the land, the spill will not even affect lands in the SE, not to talk of crossing the Middle belt or Niger, who will die from the short and long term effects of the poison? Whose land will have all or most fish, animals and humans sick and die? Even ordinary $ 1 B required for clean up of skills of Ogoniland and ND areas, Jonadarft did not provide for 6 years, no you are threatening to spill all Nigeria's oil on yourself by blowing up the pipelines? Funny set of losers, abeg do it!

If Nigeria does have to deal with militancy again, I bet you they will not be coming into the creeks piecemeal like they did the first time and there was fighting for a long time. The government will only set up outposts in the ND for 2 - 4 weeks asking patriotic Nigerians in the ND to leave temporarily and lodge them as close as possible to the ND but outside the region and then fly hundreds of missions daily to destroy every militant in carpet bombing craze until anything that moves or doesn't move is destroyed then, use the oil to rebuild the ND! Who has lost in the process??

The man state (bayelsa) need to change gear and vote for another set of leaders.

Their so called leaders could not change that tiny state to a paradise in 16 years with their huge allocation.

anyaekekehinde:
without sentiment, i have to agree with your point, i served in the Niger delta so i know what you are talking about.
Nobody can help them unless they help their selves.

Have u heard about Edwin Clark and Anthony Aninih again? these r the bad guys of Niger Delta......
people like Edwin Clark, Anini, Asari Dokubo and some high cheifs have the power to hold GEJ/PDP/Federal govt. to ransom; and enforce a mighty project in Niger Delta.
Instead, they were fighting for ownership of oil block and personal benefit as well as blaming illiterate fulani man to their woes.

Under Jonathan no single factory was built in Delta, Rivers, Edo, Bayelsa which i know very well............. he only gave amnesty. Amnesty can not sustain the youths development but employment can make them look responsible and peaceful.

fastguy10:
One Nigeria is a big fraud

Which court stops jonathan from relocating $500m oil project from lagos to bayelsa

lagos is nt one of d oil producing state in Nigeria and them can never be

Gej if u dnt ignore dat court n do ur wish I will nt be happy wt u at all we deserve it becos it is our right

DS ONE NIGERIA IS A BIG FRAUD

you got a wise word there,onenigeria is a large fraud.

pazienza:
Stop embarrassing yourself in a public forum. Egun is not a Yoruboid language, let alone a Yoruba dialect.

My last response to your consoling assertion.

Go and read the history of Badagry on Badagry Local govt website or any other reliable source so as to understand much what Egun people.

If Egun people are to come forward tomorrow or nearest future to complain about where they come from, history is right there as a pointer to where they originally came from which Benin Republic.

Young man, its obvious to the blind that Yorubas have always been the Oba of Lagos from time immemorial and ll continue to be part of Yoruba Nation regardless what your division gimmicks are.

Go back to the land of unrising sun to deal with your co-immigrants

wel jona was a very foolish man because he believed dat there is a people cal naija dat is why he only did wat he did for d abokis building n feeding beggers in d streets if he has remove all d oil n gas project to d niger delta n carefully put resources control by now everybody wul praise him but time wil tel how bahuri n d west can rule dis naija wit our oil blocks wen it is time because jona has known now n must fight for d oil blocks freedom.

royal231:
Please listen to yourself... where will the project be more viable?? Lagos or bayelsa ....

So dem go run oik pipelines from Niger delta to Lagos? ?how much expenses will that cost??

Please google what this project is about before you quote me again. You can always come back and thank me later...