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Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by shangodele(m): 12:03pm On May 02, 2015
d
souldeep:
Greetings to the house.
I stocked about 20 growers pigs weighing btw 15-22kg for fattening purpose. plss I need a cheap and good feed formulation ratio so I won't run at lost. please someone help me with this information asap. Thank u'all for the previous threads.
It depends on ur financial ability bt u can try dis, PKC (SLUDGE) ,CORN BRAN,BLOOD MEAL AND SALT
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by kunlenchy: 8:27pm On May 02, 2015
Hello House,

I am happy I can see matured minds in Nigeria coming together to discuss great opportunities.

I am about to start pig farming on a mid scale.

anyone with useful information to purchase the following pig feeds

1. dry spent grains. 20 tonnes or more

2. wet indomine waste 10 tonnes or more

delivery location is Epe, Lagos

thanks
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by souldeep(m): 6:37am On May 19, 2015
Hello house, i have a ready to mate landrace pigs for sale in Benin city. Contact me on 08058064764
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by dmydee(m): 1:59pm On May 20, 2015
Greetings to everyone in the house. I must salute the good heart with which many shared insightful knowlegde and experience without anticipating favor or gain in return.
@dejia
I commend your good work after reading through your posts. I will contact you through mail because i want you to be my mentor.
Im based in osogbo.

Once more, thank you everyone.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by ofohchinaka: 8:52am On May 22, 2015
I have spent grain for sale at a good rate in Port Harcourt.
The pigs are sure lovers of spent grain...08063963861, 08029242226
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by jedisco(m): 2:05am On May 23, 2015
Gerrard59:
Please let this thread not die oh.



If I may ask can be piggery business profitable in Uyo?


Besides I just recently acquired this land. How do you see the size, gurus in the house?

Gud day.
Do you know the price of land around Uyo at least in the semi-urban areas and also, how much did you get your land? I'm thinking of setting up my farm around that axis as I hear the city is fast growing.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by jedisco(m): 2:09am On May 23, 2015
Omoonda:
We have, in past 7 months, started a pig farming near Oyo. I am glad to learn from this forum, and thanks to Deji for pointing me here. We acquired a few of initial stock from OBJ and we've also tried a number of sources including more recently from Deji's Ilorin farm.

The Pork Producers Association is a veritable platform that we all need especially as we must reduce cost via pulling together our collective weights.

keep well.

Sunday (Omo'onda)

Congrats on your successful takeoff.
How are the pigs faring?
Please I would like to hear from you as regards start-up costs, experences and profit. You can share dem here for others to learn
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by jedisco(m): 2:45am On May 23, 2015
Good day everyone.
This is an extremely educative and interesting thread. I've read every post from the very first page and it has been very interesting.
I am an aspiring farmer and hope to start up my farm early next year. So right now, I'm trying to get all the necessary information I need and I hope this group would help me out.

1. I've researched extensively on poultry and was almost setting up a poultry at some point. But den, I had to stop seeing that a poultry is much more delicate and time consuming and that the nature of my work would not give me the time to monitor them closely so I decided to go for a piggery. But I would like to know especially from those who have done both, which is more profitable?

2. I know a lot of people would appreciate it if someone can give good detail on the profit margin for pigs. On the poultry thread, it was done in details by different people such dat one can easily make a projection of how much it takes to train say 10 broilers to market size and the expected market price.

3. Please is there anyone with a piggery around Kaduna axis? Seems most people here are located in the West. I would like to know about sales and sourcing for feed in Kaduna.

4. I plan on starting with four plots (50×100). Though I plan to start small and grow, I would like to know the maximum number of pigs it can take. Also, I plan on moving out into a more rural area later but my I'm cautious now because of security as I know thieves sometimes target piggeries especially those in rural areas.

5. Taking away land, what is the starup cost for a piggery with say 10 pigs. I would like to know about cost of housing and every other thing

6. One of my major discouragement on starting a poultry was that the land I'm looking at is in a semi-urban area and dealing with the smell and noise ain't easy. I would like to know if such problems are marked with pigs. Are they really noisy and does the farm smell alot?

7. The plot is not too far from a river so I was wondering, can I channel the waste to the river?

8. What other aspect of farming can be successfully combined with a piggery to effectively reduce cost. I know people combine poultry and fishery with good results. What are the options for a piggery?

9. Someone said 2-3 people are enough to run a small pig farm. What is the average amount people here pay their farm workers? This is important to me as I may not be there always so I need capable hands.

10. Lastly, I'm thinking we can put up a BBM group or channel as we could share information faster there. This is especially good for those who don't want to release their phone numbers for a whatsapp group.

Thanks. I'm looking forward to informative responses

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Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by lagbaja(m): 6:52am On May 23, 2015
For the start up pig farmers. Let me do you a bit of business analysis to help you with the minimum investment ( in terms of how many pigs you should raise and sell per annum) to make to be a profitable pig farmer.

Here it goes:

Profit = Sales - Total Cost. ............ equation 1
Profit = Sales - ( Fixed cost + Variable cost )...............equation 2

Fixed Cost- these are costs you incur whether you like it or not. For example staff salary, rentage, interest on loan, enery cost, management cost. etc.

Variable Cost- these are costs associated with the products ( pigs ) you are producing . They increase or decrease as the volume of product increases or decreases. Eg feed, medications. Weaner purchase. Etc.

Now, for any business , your interest is to make profit. To make profit, you must cover both your variable and fixed costs, otherwise you will run at a loss. Therefore, you must break even to start making profit.

The break even point is the point when your profit totally covers all your costs.

At break even, Profit = 0 .....................Equation 3

Therefore our equation 1 becomes

Profit = 0 = Sales - ( Fixed Cost + Variable Cost)...............Equation 4

Therefore, at break even point,

Sales = Fixed Cost + Variable Cost. ...............Equation 5

Remember that Pigs are sold per kg. therefore, our total annual sales is

Number of kg of pigs sold x unit price ( Selling price varies between N280 and N300)

Equation 5 becomes

Quantity (kg) x Unit Selling Price = Fixed Cost + Quantity (kg)x Unit Cost Price.................Equation 6

If we rearrange this equation it will be:

Fixed Cost = Q*Unit Selling Price - Q*Unit Cost Price.

Fixed Cost = Q * ( Unit Selling Price - Unit Cost Price)

Q = Fixed Cost/(Unit Selling price - Unit Cost Price).................Equation 7

Q, here represents the minimum number of kg of pigs we must sell per month ( or per annum ) to break even.

For every kg of pig we sell. It cost us money . I have previously explained the concept of FCR. Let's assume your FCR is 4. And our average cost of feed is N50. Therefore, It will cost you N200 to produce 1kg of pig.

So let's assume what your fixed cost will be.

You hired 2 staff @ N15,000 each. You allocate to yourself N10k for all cost of running around. Other sundry fixed cost at N10k ( veterinary doctor and other expenses). Let us assume that your total monthly cost is N50,000.

From question 7

Q= 50,000 / (N280- N200)= 50,000/80. = 625kg

From above, If we assume that the average size of your pigs are 63kg, it means you must sell a minimum of 10 pigs per month to break even.

So annually, you must raise and sell 120 pigs of that size. If you don't, you are running at a loss. This should not be a big deal if you plan your business well. We already know that a pig can farrow up to 20 piglets per annum under good management.

Also, as a wise startup farmer, it might make sense for you to buy weaners for fattening from other farmers and raise while you wait for your own sows to start farrowing.

If you want to test your own profitabliiy, change each parameter ( like the fixed cost, feed cost per kg, selling price and others ) and know how much investment you need to make.

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Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by Gerrard59(m): 9:40am On May 23, 2015
jedisco:


Gud day.
Do you know the price of land around Uyo at least in the semi-urban areas and also, how much did you get your land? I'm thinking of setting up my farm around that axis as I hear the city is fast growing.




Good day too.

Depends on where exactly you want the land as I bought mine along the airport axis ( where the seems to be more land at the moment). The Etoi area is the fast developing urban area of Uyo. Here land cost at least 1mn Naira and above.

Since it's for farming don't go near the Shelter Afrique, that's like the Lekki in Uyo, Ewet area is the Ikoyi.

Besides, I reside along the airport Road. Welcome to Akwa Ibom State.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by aumoria(m): 12:10pm On May 23, 2015
@Lagbaja

Thanks for taking this trouble to make this analysis and your singular effort to get world1 to reduce cost of his seeds. You are sincerly appreciated.

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Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by jedisco(m): 4:02pm On May 24, 2015
lagbaja:
For the start up pig farmers. Let me do you a bit of business analysis to help you with the minimum investment ( in terms of how many pigs you should raise and sell per annum) to make to be a profitable pig farmer.

Here it goes:

Profit = Sales - Total Cost. ............ equation 1
Profit = Sales - ( Fixed cost + Variable cost )...............equation 2

Fixed Cost- these are costs you incur whether you like it or not. For example staff salary, rentage, interest on loan, enery cost, management cost. etc.

Variable Cost- these are costs associated with the products ( pigs ) you are producing . They increase or decrease as the volume of product increases or decreases. Eg feed, medications. Weaner purchase. Etc.

Now, for any business , your interest is to make profit. To make profit, you must cover both your variable and fixed costs, otherwise you will run at a loss. Therefore, you must break even to start making profit.

The break even point is the point when your profit totally covers all your costs.

At break even, Profit = 0 .....................Equation 3

Therefore our equation 1 becomes

Profit = 0 = Sales - ( Fixed Cost + Variable Cost)...............Equation 4

Therefore, at break even point,

Sales = Fixed Cost + Variable Cost. ...............Equation 5

Remember that Pigs are sold per kg. therefore, our total annual sales is

Number of kg of pigs sold x unit price ( Selling price varies between N280 and N300)

Equation 5 becomes

Quantity (kg) x Unit Selling Price = Fixed Cost + Quantity (kg)x Unit Cost Price.................Equation 6

If we rearrange this equation it will be:

Fixed Cost = Q*Unit Selling Price - Q*Unit Cost Price.

Fixed Cost = Q * ( Unit Selling Price - Unit Cost Price)

Q = Fixed Cost/(Unit Selling price - Unit Cost Price).................Equation 7

Q, here represents the minimum number of kg of pigs we must sell per month ( or per annum ) to break even.

For every kg of pig we sell. It cost us money . I have previously explained the concept of FCR. Let's assume your FCR is 4. And our average cost of feed is N50. Therefore, It will cost you N200 to produce 1kg of pig.

So let's assume what your fixed cost will be.

You hired 2 staff @ N15,000 each. You allocate to yourself N10k for all cost of running around. Other sundry fixed cost at N10k ( veterinary doctor and other expenses). Let us assume that your total monthly cost is N50,000.

From question 7

Q= 50,000 / (N280- N200)= 50,000/80. = 625kg

From above, If we assume that the average size of your pigs are 63kg, it means you must sell a minimum of 10 pigs per month to break even.

So annually, you must raise and sell 120 pigs of that size. If you don't, you are running at a loss. This should not be a big deal if you plan your business well. We already know that a pig can farrow up to 20 piglets per annum under good management.

Also, as a wise startup farmer, it might make sense for you to buy weaners for fattening from other farmers and raise while you wait for your own sows to start farrowing.

If you want to test your own profitabliiy, change each parameter ( like the fixed cost, feed cost per kg, selling price and others ) and know how much investment you need to make.






Very good analysis.
I believe you own a piggery. I would appreciate it if you can be more practical and perhaps add figures to the equations from your early days seeing that most new farmers may not have these ready figures.
I would give an example with the poultry thread where people gave estimates from those starting from scratch to those who already have basic infrastructure. Infact one could ascertain how much it should take (all things being equal ) to raise a broiler to sale point and at what price one should sell to make what profit. And d price estimates were from different people with different experiences. I would really appreciate if someone similar can be mirrored here
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by jedisco(m): 4:14pm On May 24, 2015
Gerrard59:





Good day too.

Depends on where exactly you want the land as I bought mine along the airport axis ( where the seems to be more land at the moment). The Etoi area is the fast developing urban area of Uyo. Here land cost at least 1mn Naira and above.

Since it's for farming don't go near the Shelter Afrique, that's like the Lekki in Uyo, Ewet area is the Ikoyi.

Besides, I reside along the airport Road. Welcome to Akwa Ibom State.

Thanks.
I've been to Uyo once but that was about 4-5 yrs ago. One thing I noticed was that the government was trying but the human capital development from the people end wasn't as stellar e.g the keke (an indigene) guy told me most of the keke people came from Aba and usually returned on Fridays and also the houses I saw didn't match the infrastructure in terms of quality but these may have changed over time. That may affect the buying power of the people. How much is a life pig sold there per Kg and what's the market demand like? I know prices may be higher around PH and some parts of the SE, but so may be initial start up costs like land.
I'm asking cos I'm considering on whether to relocate down south from Kaduna and start up.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by jedisco(m): 4:17pm On May 24, 2015
jedisco:
Good day everyone.
This is an extremely educative and interesting thread. I've read every post from the very first page and it has been very interesting.
I am an aspiring farmer and hope to start up my farm early next year. So right now, I'm trying to get all the necessary information I need and I hope this group would help me out.

1. I've researched extensively on poultry and was almost setting up a poultry at some point. But den, I had to stop seeing that a poultry is much more delicate and time consuming and that the nature of my work would not give me the time to monitor them closely so I decided to go for a piggery. But I would like to know especially from those who have done both, which is more profitable?

2. I know a lot of people would appreciate it if someone can give good detail on the profit margin for pigs. On the poultry thread, it was done in details by different people such dat one can easily make a projection of how much it takes to train say 10 broilers to market size and the expected market price.

3. Please is there anyone with a piggery around Kaduna axis? Seems most people here are located in the West. I would like to know about sales and sourcing for feed in Kaduna.

4. I plan on starting with four plots (50×100). Though I plan to start small and grow, I would like to know the maximum number of pigs it can take. Also, I plan on moving out into a more rural area later but my I'm cautious now because of security as I know thieves sometimes target piggeries especially those in rural areas.

5. Taking away land, what is the starup cost for a piggery with say 10 pigs. I would like to know about cost of housing and every other thing

6. One of my major discouragement on starting a poultry was that the land I'm looking at is in a semi-urban area and dealing with the smell and noise ain't easy. I would like to know if such problems are marked with pigs. Are they really noisy and does the farm smell alot?

7. The plot is not too far from a river so I was wondering, can I channel the waste to the river?

8. What other aspect of farming can be successfully combined with a piggery to effectively reduce cost. I know people combine poultry and fishery with good results. What are the options for a piggery?

9. Someone said 2-3 people are enough to run a small pig farm. What is the average amount people here pay their farm workers? This is important to me as I may not be there always so I need capable hands.

10. Lastly, I'm thinking we can put up a BBM group or channel as we could share information faster there. This is especially good for those who don't want to release their phone numbers for a whatsapp group.

Thanks. I'm looking forward to informative responses


Thanks for the replies so far. still waiting for more

@ Femu
@ ops
@ dejia
@ ayodejy05
@ myohmy
@ Ijobaorun
@ popoolagroup
@ Lakeside247
@ eazeefix
@ emmyvet
@ koolsammie
@ Adefola
@ targus
@ bugativeron
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by jedisco(m): 5:18pm On May 24, 2015
Sorry double post
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by Gerrard59(m): 7:40pm On May 24, 2015
jedisco:


Thanks.
I've been to Uyo once but that was about 4-5 yrs ago. One thing I noticed was that the government was trying but the human capital development from the people end wasn't as stellar e.g the keke (an indigene) guy told me most of the keke people came from Aba and usually returned on Fridays and also the houses I saw didn't match the infrastructure in terms of quality but these may have changed over time. That may affect the buying power of the people. How much is a life pig sold there per Kg and what's the market demand like? I know prices may be higher around PH and some parts of the SE, but so may be initial start up costs like land.
I'm asking cos I'm considering on whether to relocate down south from Kaduna and start up.






You're utmostly welcomed. Thing is, Akwa Ibom State is a fast developing one and is in dire need of investments in every possible sector.

For Piggery as a business, I have not done any survey per say as I'm still in the university ( no time at all).
I believe you should come down and stay at least 3 months and do a thorough survey of the state in terms of demand for Piggery products. I myself plan to target the Port-harcourt, Owerri, Aba markets.


The state has land excess, susuitable for Agricultural purposes. Just come over, do your research and I wish you the very best.

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Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by dejia(m): 8:18pm On May 24, 2015
jedisco:

Thanks for the replies so far. still waiting for more
@ Femu
@ ops
@ dejia
@ ayodejy05
@ myohmy
@ Ijobaorun
@ popoolagroup
@ Lakeside247
@ eazeefix
@ emmyvet
jedisco:
Good day everyone.
This is an extremely educative and interesting thread. I've read every post from the very first page and it has been very interesting.
I am an aspiring farmer and hope to start up my farm early next year. So right now, I'm trying to get all the necessary information I need and I hope this group would help me out.
1. I've researched extensively on poultry and was almost setting up a poultry at some point. But den, I had to stop seeing that a poultry is much more delicate and time consuming and that the nature of my work would not give me the time to monitor them closely so I decided to go for a piggery. But I would like to know especially from those who have done both, which is more profitable?
2. I know a lot of people would appreciate it if someone can give good detail on the profit margin for pigs. On the poultry thread, it was done in details by different people such dat one can easily make a projection of how much it takes to train say 10 broilers to market size and the expected market price.
3. Please is there anyone with a piggery around Kaduna axis? Seems most people here are located in the West. I would like to know about sales and sourcing for feed in Kaduna.
4. I plan on starting with four plots (50×100). Though I plan to start small and grow, I would like to know the maximum number of pigs it can take. Also, I plan on moving out into a more rural area later but my I'm cautious now because of security as I know thieves sometimes target piggeries especially those in rural areas.
5. Taking away land, what is the starup cost for a piggery with say 10 pigs. I would like to know about cost of housing and every other thing
6. One of my major discouragement on starting a poultry was that the land I'm looking at is in a semi-urban area and dealing with the smell and noise ain't easy. I would like to know if such problems are marked with pigs. Are they really noisy and does the farm smell alot?
7. The plot is not too far from a river so I was wondering, can I channel the waste to the river?
8. What other aspect of farming can be successfully combined with a piggery to effectively reduce cost. I know people combine poultry and fishery with good results. What are the options for a piggery?
9. Someone said 2-3 people are enough to run a small pig farm. What is the average amount people here pay their farm workers? This is important to me as I may not be there always so I need capable hands.
10. Lastly, I'm thinking we can put up a BBM group or channel as we could share information faster there. This is especially good for those who don't want to release their phone numbers for a whatsapp group.
Thanks. I'm looking forward to informative responses



Jedisco,

Well, I think Oga Lagbaja has done justice to your questions, but since u request us to comment, I will addd my 2 cents.

*1) I don't think u can compare pigggery n poultry, piggery is long term, it takes minimum of 18months to break even, compared to poultry ( broilers) cld be 10weeks.
Also poultry farmers in Nigeria have been able to come together n develop it so well, that you can gets good breeds, equipments, vaccines etc ; that we pig farmers haven't been able to do.

To answer ur question, I think if. It's alll about profit: I think. U shdnt even consider farming in the first place, passion shd come first.if you don't have passion for pigs, I think poultry will be more profitable


2). It is difficult to calc; depends on breed, feed and management; pigs in developed countries convert @ 2.3kg to 1kg weight, in Nigeria.. lots of farmers don't know, you. Will find some pigs that convert @ 4kg; some @ 6kg, some @ 8kg.. I guess it's hard to tell, also depends on the feed; and management. I think the major advantage is, when you sell, you make your money in bulk


3) am located in ilorin.. most pig farmers are in the. S.West, they have a better weather than we in the north and get more bi-product ( BDG,PKC, Gala waste etc
; but we in the north have cheap maize, which is 60percent of feed for pigs in developed. Countries.
Am sure you will find some farmers in kaduna; find what they feed


4) I always advice to ensure you get a. Sizeable land, I honestly think 4plots is small, unless u are sure to acquire more soon; I will recommend a minimum of 20plots, except you intend to start. Andd move to a permanent site within 2-3yrs. Also water, Please ensure you have a borehole; piggery require about 4,000 liters a day if you intend to have about 100 pigs, water is very very important.
Pigs ain't easy to steal, i dont know much about crime in KD

5) housing: depends on materials etc, a standard pen whichh can accommodate about 100pigs will. Cost you between 800k -2Milllion, depending on the type of flooring you intend to use and labour cost also your roofing materials ( Abestos, roofing sheet or tapulin)

6). Pigs smell is worst than that of birds.
Also your waste is more, so you need adequate land to dispose your waste

7) No, you can't channel ur waste to a river. Pls don't do such, dig a pit, or spread it on 2plots of land, when it's dry, bag it; am sure vegetable farmers will buy it of you, or you can use it to grow crops


cool alots of people have piggery n poultry, my poultry pays my monthly running cost for the farm, while the pig is forr the long n medium term; a few. People I know also have piggery n fishery together, some vegetables n piggery.


9) depends on how the pen is designed, e.g I have just 1 person taking care of 150 pigs, because my water is automated, my liquid waste is also automated, all they do is feed n take the solid waste; if you also do so, then u can also have 1 or 2 people, but if everything has to be manual, then you might require more hands,

Most times in Nigeria, we think labour Is cheap, but most of the cheap labour isn't effective. I will recommend atleast ensure you have drinking nipples.

10) We have registered Pork Producers Association of Nigeria; info will soon be avail on how to join etc.

* Last advice, don't rush into it; look for pig farmers around you, find out how it's been done, but dont limit yourself to that.
You won't make money for the first 2yrs, ensure you have enough money to feed for 2yrs. Read, read, learn, don't rush into it.
If you don't have passion for it, don't start it.
If you can get a pen to rent, maybe you start with that and later start yours, when you have gained experience

Hope my 2cent advice was worth reading.

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Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by REUBEN010(m): 3:51am On May 25, 2015
Gerrard59:







You're utmostly welcomed. Thing is, Akwa Ibom State is a fast developing one and is in dire need of investments in every possible sector.

For Piggery as a business, I have not done any survey per say as I'm still in the university ( no time at all).
I believe you should come down and stay at least 3 months and do a thorough survey of the state in terms of demand for Piggery products. I myself plan to target the Port-harcourt, Owerri, Aba markets.


The state has land excess, susuitable for Agricultural purposes. Just come over, do your research and I wish you the very best.
Gud day sir, I school in Uyo and will like to connect to u. Pls is it possible I visit ur farm?
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by Gerrard59(m): 10:45am On May 25, 2015
REUBEN010:

Gud day sir, I school in Uyo and will like to connect to u. Pls is it possible I visit ur farm?



Currently in Mkpat Enin. Not yet started. Just got the land.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by glowdot4: 9:51pm On May 25, 2015
Dear Team, pls I need to know if anyone here has done business with Dejia, am having an experience that I need to share.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by jedisco(m): 11:30pm On May 25, 2015
dejia:




Jedisco,

Well, I think Oga Lagbaja has done justice to your questions, but since u request us to comment, I will addd my 2 cents.

*1) I don't think u can compare pigggery n poultry, piggery is long term, it takes minimum of 18months to break even, compared to poultry ( broilers) cld be 10weeks.
Also poultry farmers in Nigeria have been able to come together n develop it so well, that you can gets good breeds, equipments, vaccines etc ; that we pig farmers haven't been able to do.

To answer ur question, I think if. It's alll about profit: I think. U shdnt even consider farming in the first place, passion shd come first.if you don't have passion for pigs, I think poultry will be more profitable


2). It is difficult to calc; depends on breed, feed and management; pigs in developed countries convert @ 2.3kg to 1kg weight, in Nigeria.. lots of farmers don't know, you. Will find some pigs that convert @ 4kg; some @ 6kg, some @ 8kg.. I guess it's hard to tell, also depends on the feed; and management. I think the major advantage is, when you sell, you make your money in bulk


3) am located in ilorin.. most pig farmers are in the. S.West, they have a better weather than we in the north and get more bi-product ( BDG,PKC, Gala waste etc
; but we in the north have cheap maize, which is 60percent of feed for pigs in developed. Countries.
Am sure you will find some farmers in kaduna; find what they feed


4) I always advice to ensure you get a. Sizeable land, I honestly think 4plots is small, unless u are sure to acquire more soon; I will recommend a minimum of 20plots, except you intend to start. Andd move to a permanent site within 2-3yrs. Also water, Please ensure you have a borehole; piggery require about 4,000 liters a day if you intend to have about 100 pigs, water is very very important.
Pigs ain't easy to steal, i dont know much about crime in KD

5) housing: depends on materials etc, a standard pen whichh can accommodate about 100pigs will. Cost you between 800k -2Milllion, depending on the type of flooring you intend to use and labour cost also your roofing materials ( Abestos, roofing sheet or tapulin)

6). Pigs smell is worst than that of birds.
Also your waste is more, so you need adequate land to dispose your waste

7) No, you can't channel ur waste to a river. Pls don't do such, dig a pit, or spread it on 2plots of land, when it's dry, bag it; am sure vegetable farmers will buy it of you, or you can use it to grow crops


cool alots of people have piggery n poultry, my poultry pays my monthly running cost for the farm, while the pig is forr the long n medium term; a few. People I know also have piggery n fishery together, some vegetables n piggery.


9) depends on how the pen is designed, e.g I have just 1 person taking care of 150 pigs, because my water is automated, my liquid waste is also automated, all they do is feed n take the solid waste; if you also do so, then u can also have 1 or 2 people, but if everything has to be manual, then you might require more hands,

Most times in Nigeria, we think labour Is cheap, but most of the cheap labour isn't effective. I will recommend atleast ensure you have drinking nipples.

10) We have registered Pork Producers Association of Nigeria; info will soon be avail on how to join etc.

* Last advice, don't rush into it; look for pig farmers around you, find out how it's been done, but dont limit yourself to that.
You won't make money for the first 2yrs, ensure you have enough money to feed for 2yrs. Read, read, learn, don't rush into it.
If you don't have passion for it, don't start it.
If you can get a pen to rent, maybe you start with that and later start yours, when you have gained experience

Hope my 2cent advice was worth reading.

It was really worth reading and is proving helpful and an eye-opener

lemme quickly note some points

1. It's not all about profit, but then, it's got to pay the bills. My profession which I love and also have passion for is quite distant from agriculture. What's pulling me here is passion and also the extra income. I picked on piggery as it would give me the much needed time to pursue my career and other things without the farm being likely to suffer at an early stage unlike poultry. But then, I just wanted to be sure it's worth the investment.

2. So far so good, after thorough searching, I've been able to get the contact of a pig farmer in kaduna though I've not contacted him yet. Most ones I know are local farmers who let their pigs roam. But I would contact him ASAP.


3. I know 4 plots is small for virtually any type of intensive agriculture. I was hoping to start there, test run and then move out. As a new farmer, there is the issue of credit and also not wanting to put too much into something one has not tried. I'm ready to go all in, but just want to be careful at first.


4. The issue of smell is the most worrying one for me now considering dat d area is semi-urban and I don't want people complaining. I would appreciate if you or anyone can shed light on effective waste management so as to control the smell especially where space is limited. Would also follow up on the farmer I have and see how he does his own.

5. You talked about automating the liquid waste. I would appreciate it if you explain how you do that.

Thanks again for your input. Have noted alot of things. I'm also going over the thread again. I'm not in a hurry, but I need to get a foothold within the next 2 years as I have kind of a hiatus now before I get sucked up in my career and then starting may be difficult.

To the house, would also appreciate any input I can get.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by glowdot4: 12:37pm On May 26, 2015
pls has anyone In this forum ever bought pig from Dejia of naira land am having a not too funny experience. I need to talk to someone.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by dejia(m): 2:15pm On May 26, 2015
glowdot4:
pls has anyone In this forum ever bought pig from Dejia of naira land am having a not too funny experience. I need to talk to someone.

Hi Glowdot4,

Pls talk to me, if you have a "funny experience". i checked my data base, cant remember selling any pig to you, only if am making a mistake, you can e-mail me privately or share the experience publicly, i will answer to any issue you have.

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Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by glowdot4: 2:19pm On May 26, 2015
Thank God. Dejia it's Gloria from Ibadan, tried ur line and it's wit someone else. pls ur email let's talk.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by REUBEN010(m): 11:48pm On May 26, 2015
Gerrard59:




Currently in Mkpat Enin. Not yet started. Just got the land.
Pls do notify me when u are about starting. I'ld lyk to know the steps taken. thanks
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by dejia(m): 7:15am On May 27, 2015
glowdot4:
Thank God. Dejia it's Gloria from Ibadan, tried ur line and it's wit someone else. pls ur email let's talk.


Gloria,

I think what you have done is unfair, i havent never spoken with you; you dont have my number.. coming on a forum like this to make those statement about your experience with me , when you could have e-mailed me is unfair( my e-mail is on all my advert on this forum); maybe you have spoken to my staff or someone who claims to work for me , i dont know yet..
Nevertheless, here is my e-mail: deji@fulfillsa.co.za

i want to know what happened.

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Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by glowdot4: 8:44am On May 27, 2015
Dejia,

I want have u speak to me in dat manner. I haven't said anything wrong . I just said am having a not too funny experience. If u ve ppl representing or doing biz in ur name u ve a duty to ensure they do Wat is expected. pls dnt provoke me any further.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by papis(m): 12:59pm On May 27, 2015
hello all.

@Lagabja

nice write ups above ....really nice

i would like to know how much a tonne of cassava cost

thanks
pappy
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by dejia(m): 1:22pm On May 27, 2015
glowdot4:
Dejia,
I want have u speak to me in dat manner. I haven't said anything wrong . I just said am having a not too funny experience. If u ve ppl representing or doing biz in ur name u ve a duty to ensure they do Wat is expected. pls dnt provoke me any further.

HI Gloria,

Am sorry if my words offended you in anyway, i was also shocked, by your post.. i have sold over 400 weaners on this forum, so its an integrity issue for me.

kindly send me an e-mail, or send me your number, let me know what happened.
Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by aumoria(m): 3:16pm On May 27, 2015
dejia:


HI Gloria,

Am sorry if my words offended you in anyway, i was also shocked, by your post.. i have sold over 400 weaners on this forum, so its an integrity issue for me.

kindly send me an e-mail, or send me your number, let me know what happened.
@Dejia
You are cool and level headed and your maturity in handlying issues like this marks you out as a reliable person to do bussiness with.
Keep it up.

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Re: Pig Farmers Lets Meet Here by viktor556(m): 3:31pm On May 27, 2015
targus:
Hi Guys, I'm just starting my pig farm on my farm and all the available help will be appreciated, i will be starting with 25 Soars and we are just in the process of completing the construction of the pen.If anybody has any pointer as well on what to look out for ,this will be greatly appreciated.
Good day. I've read your posts on Piggery. I'm intending to start my piggery in no time. Please I need someone already in the business for a matured advice. How do I contact you?
Thanks.

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