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johnw74:
Here are just a few of the many heresies of the RCC

1. The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus
(and is not Biblical)

2. The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman Church.
Act 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshiped him.
Act 10:26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.

3. The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year 1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans
The counting of prayers is a pagan practice and is expressly condemned by Christ.
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

4. The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a permit to indulge in sin.
Christianity, as taught in the Bible, condemns such a traffic and it was the protest against this traffic that brought on the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century.

5. The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III
By this doctrine the priest pretends to perform a daily miracle by changing a wafer into the body of Christ

6. The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius
So the Roman Church worships a God made by human hands. This is plain idolatry and absolutely contrary to the spirit of the Gospel.

7. The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the Council of Valencia

8. The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk
It is a piece of brown cloth, with the picture of the Virgin and supposed to contain supernatural virtue to protect from all dangers those who wear it on naked skin.

9. In the year 1931 pope Pius XI, reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "the Mother of God"
This doctrine was first invented by the Council of Ephesus in the year 431
(and is not Biblical)

There are many many more.

(Ex 23:1)- You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness.

(Prov 19:9)- A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish.

(1Pet 2:1-2) - So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation... to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ...

( Rev 21:8 ) - But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

(John 8:44) - You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a[b] liar[/b] and the father of lies.

johnw74:
I don't say Jesus is two persons, RC apparently have trouble understanding.



without the RCC guidance, now that is funny,
scriptures are not only easy to quote, they are easy to believe,
the RCC is one of the last places I would go to get enlightenment on scriptures.

As stated before, the issue of Mary being the Mother of God was put to bed 1600 years ago. Whether you believe the council/church or not is up to you.I do wonder where you get your own authority because the majority of Christianity teaches a different Doctrine to yours. Who do we believe?The personal interpretation of Johnw74 or historical christianity?
Scriptures are easy to believe but you don't think it requires guidance? One just wonders why there are so many different teachings from the multitude of sola scriptura adherents!

Syncan:
Dear one,

1) Yes Jesus did break the Sabbath according to the dictates of their laws , but Jesus is Lord even of the Sabbath and enlightened them on the spirit of the law.

@ bold . You said Jesus breaks law , people who break law are called sinners .

2). Please do not argue for arguing sake, you know that the Jews were not referring to Jesus Calling God His father, just like Christians call God their father, because even Christians call Jesus "Son of God" not in the same way as they are "sons and daughters of God". We need to be truthful.

K, Let me see where he actually said he is equal to God ?

MizJanet:
@ bold . You said Jesus breaks law , people who break law are called sinners .

K, Let me see where he actually said he is equal to God ?

Though you are not being exactly honest in the way you presented what I said, however following the argument you presented, Nelson Mandela won't be a hero since he broke laws.

Jesus was a Jew, he knew exactly what the Jews ascribe to God alone. He forgave Sins (Which God alone can do) Mk2:5, he called God his father (In the order of nature) Jn. 5: 17-22, When the Jews drew that Inference that he claims to be equal to the father, what did he do... he said "I and my Father are one" Jn 10:30. For which they now picked up stones to throw on him.

Except you are looking for the exact letters "I am equal to God", then I cannot help you.

Syncan:
Wow! I quoted scripture (Lk1:28,42) once again he avoids it to chase shadows. I took on you because of the arrogance in your response on this thread, yet behind that arrogance is a massive ignorance of scripture. Be humble and learn. God bless you.

Luke 1:28,42 does not condone praying to dead Saints, which is what I spoke off.

Syncan:
Did i not say you are ignorant of scriptures?

Yes, accusing seems to be your forte

"When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?" Matt. 9:11.

Mr Pharisee, is your question not the same as your fore fathers asked earlier? You may go now to that scripture and see the reply of the Master.


And to you o Pharisee, the master has one word for you....Hypocrite! Matt. 23:13

Ha ha rc is very much like jw.

johnw74: Here are just a few of the many heresies of the RCC

1. The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus
(and is not Biblical)

2. The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman Church.
Act 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshiped him.
Act 10:26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.

3. The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year 1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans
The counting of prayers is a pagan practice and is expressly condemned by Christ.
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

4. The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a permit to indulge in sin.
Christianity, as taught in the Bible, condemns such a traffic and it was the protest against this traffic that brought on the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century.

5. The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III
By this doctrine the priest pretends to perform a daily miracle by changing a wafer into the body of Christ

6. The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius
So the Roman Church worships a God made by human hands. This is plain idolatry and absolutely contrary to the spirit of the Gospel.

7. The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the Council of Valencia

8. The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk
It is a piece of brown cloth, with the picture of the Virgin and supposed to contain supernatural virtue to protect from all dangers those who wear it on Unclad skin.

9. In the year 1931 pope Pius XI, reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "the Mother of God"
This doctrine was first invented by the Council of Ephesus in the year 431
(and is not Biblical)

There are many many more.

Syncan:
(Ex 23:1)- You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness.

(Prov 19:9)- A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish.

(1Pet 2:1-2) - So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation... to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ...

( Rev 21:8 ) - But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

(John 8:44) - You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a[b] liar[/b] and the father of lies.

My post above yours is true which anyone can easily search out for themselves.
And look at your evil accusing reply to it.

Syncan:
Inspite of your rudeness, I'm determine to expose your Ignorance and deceit.

This will be interisting.

Yes I stated that point in bracket to expose the stupidity in your post.

How does misquoting me point out my stupidity?

You keep using "Son of God" as separate from "God" as if Son of God is a nature in its self. So you are "son of man" and not "man" since your parents only gave you the flesh abi? Your argument reminds me of the saying that "a lunatic indeed goes along comfortably with his thoughts", Yet he is seen by the populace as making no sense.

My arguments remind you of a lunatic, there is stupitidy in my post, I shout a stupid sentence,
did you say I'm rude?

You kept avoiding the scriptures I lay bare in front of you and continue chasing shadows,

Show just one of those scriptures that I avoid.

the Son of the Virgin is called "Mighty God" by Isaiah and you're here telling me she is not the Mother of God. It doesn't matter how much you shout a stupid sentence, it doesn't give it sense.

Jesus is Mighty God, the virgin didn't give birth to Mighty God, she gave birth to the man Jesus,
and you may never understand,
how could you with all of your accusing and rudeness that you accuse me off.


The Bible say's in many places that Jesus is the Son of God, and that Mary gave birth to the Son of God

The Father God said more than once that Jesus is His Son

Jesus said Himself that He is the Son of God
Joh_10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

But Syncan say's that Mary gave birth to God

show just one Bible verse saying Mary gave birth to God.

God was in the beginning, when there was nothing else:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

thorpido:
It's unproductive and does not in any way improve one spiritually,so I've never said it.
We pray in the Name of Jesus and He is the one to be hailed.

How can you know if it's unproductive when you've never said it?

Think!

Appleyard:
There is nothing like 'Hail Mary' in the entire bible. What you catholics have today are creeds and dogmas from papal Rome. There is only one mediator between God and man-the Man Christ Jesus (I Tim.2vs5.)
The so-called Mary of the Roman Catholic chuch is a Demon, and the very act of its worship is pure paganism.

You have never read Luke 1?

You didn't read the OP?

One has to be blind and ignorant to be anti-Catholic.

Anas09:
ChristiaNs don't pray hail mary, Catholics do. And Catholics are hardly christians.

You mean Angel Gabriel and Elizabeth in Luke 1 are not Christians but Catholic?

Anas09:
They oppose every godly (Biblical) doctrin.

Name just one. Just one.

Anas09:
The queen of heaven which is mary(of the catholic not the mother of Jesus) is a demon. Jere 7:18. Stop your idolatry. Repent and accept Jesus. You can't stand the anger of God.

Everybody, even the most stupid human being alive knows that the Mary that Catholics love...is the mother of Jesus.

Are you from Mars?

Anas09:
I thought you were going to past a passage of the scripture that enjoin the christians to pay alligience to her.

John 19:26 When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing beside her, he said to his mother, “Woman, here is your son.” 27 Then he said to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” And from that hour the disciple took her into his own home.

Now show me where Jesus said you shouldn't pay allegiance to Mary.

And show me where he said Christians should only do the few things written in the Bible.

Show me where Jesus mentioned "Bible?"

Anas09:
Catholic church is Babylon the great. The harlot spoken of by John in revelation.
The Premadona(queen of heaven) the Catholics worship is a demon, period. Catholic church in trying to stop true christianity Raised Islam to help them stampede christianity. They made mohammed to eradicate other idols and elevate his family idol has the supreme to stand at par with the Catholic god, but satan their master had his own plans.
Check Islam, hinduism and Catholic church. The same pattern of counting beats and chanting to their idols.

So your Bible was compiled by this 'Babylon the great.' It was this harlot that decided the books to go into the Bible and the books to be thrown out in the 4th century.
It is this Catholic Church that changed the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday.

So you too must be a devil worshipper then.

Appleyard:
Miss, am far way different from them, cause am not worshiping the vessel, but He that came from the vessel. And you must understand that No one here is disputing the fact that Mary is refered to as the mother of Jesus because, she (Mary) was the vessel out of which God who took on Flesh, became a man and manifested Himself among men. But there was no place in the scriptures we are thought to worship or give honour to this 'woman.' Or Can you show me anywhere it is written that we should give honour to Mary, not to mention Worshiping her?

Firstly Catholics only worship Mary in your small envious protestant mind. In real life, we worship God alone.

Then talking about where scripture teaches us to honour her...

1. The Bible says: "honour your father and mother." And Rev 12:17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her children, those who keep the commandments of God and hold the testimony of Jesus.

Is Mary our mother?

2. Angel Gabriel came down from heaven with a message from God, and the beginning of the message was "Hail Mary!"

Is that not honour from God himself?


3. The Holy Spirit said (through Elizabeth) "Blessed are you among women."

Is that not honour from God The Holy Spirit?

Do you still insist that Christians should not honour Mary...or do you change your position?

Appleyard:
And it would interest you to know that your so-cherished Mary-mother of God was not even recognized as ''mother'' by the Son Jesus (God in flesh), and its rightly so.
This is because, He Jesus is a spirit from above that took on the nature of man for a purpose.(1 Cor.5 vs 45-47)
And He that is from above, is greater than he or she that is of the earth. All things (all! Including Mary) were created by the Son (Jesus.) -StJohn 1vs3. Colosians 1 vs 16. And the creature can never be greater than the creator.
So Mary is not in any way greater than Jesus. Rather, its Jesus that is greater, and has been existing as a spirit being, the Almighty, even before the world began (Rev.1vs7-8.)

Thus, humanly speaking, Mary by the natural law of conception and birth, she is mother to Jesus (after the will of the flesh); but in REALITY, Jesus (the Son) is the father and creator of Mary.
That is why He never called her ''mother'' but ''woman.''
and you can only give honour and worship to the Creator.

Matt 2:13 Now after they had left, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Get up, take the child and HIS MOTHER, and flee to Egypt...

Ignorant protestant, so the "Angel of the Lord" is human that doesn't know the reality abi?

Appleyard:
So, where did your 'hail Mary' came from?

Blind Protestant. How many times are we going to show you that it came from Luke 1. Did Martin Luther remove that too from your Bible?

Appleyard:
And again, how can a dead person pray for you-- 'oh holy mary pray for us'?

You say Mary is dead. Jesus asks in John11:26 and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?

What is your answer?

One last question: do they excavate your brains and eyes in protestant churches shops?

johnw74:
Luke 1:28,42 does not condone praying to dead Saints, which is what I spoke off.

Who is discussing praying to saints with you?

johnw74:
My post above yours is true which anyone can easily search out for themselves.
And look at your evil accusing reply to it.

As long as you keep spreading lies and calling scripture "evil accusing reply", then:

(John 8:44) - You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a[b] liar[/b] and the father of lies.

johnw74:
This will be interisting.

How does misquoting me point out my stupidity?

My arguments remind you of a lunatic, there is stupitidy in my post, I shout a stupid sentence,
did you say I'm rude?

Show just one of those scriptures that I avoid.

Jesus is Mighty God, the virgin didn't give birth to Mighty God, she gave birth to the man Jesus,
and you may never understand,
how could you with all of your accusing and rudeness that you accuse me off.


The Bible say's in many places that Jesus is the Son of God, and that Mary gave birth to the Son of God

The Father God said more than once that Jesus is His Son

Jesus said Himself that He is the Son of God
Joh_10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

But Syncan say's that Mary gave birth to God

show just one Bible verse saying Mary gave birth to God.

God was in the beginning, when there was nothing else:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

I treat you with as much respect as you dish out, that you may learn.

Johnw74: the virgin didn't give birth to Mighty God

Scripture: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,....Isaiah 9:6

Who do we believe? And he calls himself a christian. Smh.

Syncan:
Inspite of your rudeness,......your Ignorance and deceit..................the stupidity in your post....................you shout a stupid sentence, it doesn't give it sense.......................Your argument reminds me of the saying that a lunatic...........................Did i not say you are ignorant of scriptures?..............................


Mr Pharisee, is your question not the same as your fore fathers asked................................
And to you o Pharisee, the master has one word for you....Hypocrite! Matt. 23:13.

You said I'm rude,
and then you said: "... the stupidity in your post"
and then you said: "Your argument reminds me of the saying that a lunatic ..."
and then you said: "... you shout a stupid sentence"
and then you say "Did i not say you are ignorant of scriptures"
and then you say "Mr Pharisee, is your question not the same as your fore fathers asked earlier"
and then you said "And to you o Pharisee, the master has one word for you....Hypocrite! Matt. 23:13"

Ha ha it's plain who is a Pharisee hypocrite

As for: "And to you o Pharisee, the master has one word for you....Hypocrite! Matt. 23:13"

Do not put words into the Master's mouth, He did not say that to me, you did.
I have taken your loose tongue words to Him.

johnw74:
You said I'm rude,
and then you said: "... the stupidity in your post"
and then you said: "Your argument reminds me of the saying that a lunatic ..."
and then you said: "... you shout a stupid sentence"
and then you say "Did i not say you are ignorant of scriptures"
and then you say "Mr Pharisee, is your question not the same as your fore fathers asked earlier"
and then you said "And to you o Pharisee, the master has one word for you....Hypocrite! Matt. 23:13"

Ha ha it's plain who is a Pharisee hypocrite

As for: "And to you o Pharisee, the master has one word for you....Hypocrite! Matt. 23:13"

Do not put words into the Master's mouth, He did not say that, you did.
I have taken your loose tongue words to Him.

Oh...and you're innocent of them all. Now you're crying, chasing after shadows as usual.

Syncan:
Oh...and you're innocent of them all. Now you're crying, chasing after shadows as usual.

Round and around in circles she goes.

italo:
How can you know if it's unproductive when you've never said it?

Think!

it's called knowledge.You don't have to do something before you know what result it will produce or not.That is why we have education.You can know through education without actually practicing it.There is spiritual education too.We have the scriptures to guide us.

Your teachers haven't done a good job with you.I hope now you can think!

Syncan: Who is discussing praying to saints with you?

You don't know what is being discussed do you?

Syncan: As long as you keep spreading lies and calling scripture "evil accusing reply", then:

(John 8:44) - You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a[b] liar[/b] and the father of lies.

It's your posting judgmental scriptures against me for posting Truth is what is evil.
try being truthful if you want to be believed.

Syncan: I treat you with as much respect as you dish out, that you may learn.

Oh please,

Syncan: Johnw74: the virgin didn't give birth to Mighty God

Scripture: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,....Isaiah 9:6

The virgin didn't give birth to Mighty God, before Jesus the man was born, He was already Mighty God

Syncan: Who do we believe? And he calls himself a christian. Smh.

forget the "we" I believe the scriptures that say the virgin gave birth to the Son of God,
your continual insults show the spirit that's in you.

To an atheist Syncan say's "Dear one"

To this Christian he say's continual accusations and insults



God was never born
God is the Father of Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ is the Son of God the Father
Mary gave birth to the Son of God, just as the scriptures say

before Jesus was born man, He is the Word of God
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

When He ascended to Heaven He again is the Word of God
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.


God was never born, but always has been and always will be

Psa 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

Psa 93:2 Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting.


There is not one single scripture saying that God was born or had a beginning
God cannot be born, the man Jesus was born the Son of God

Syncan say's God was born of Mary.

johnw74:
You don't know what is being discussed do you?

It's your posting judgmental scriptures against me for posting Truth is what is evil.
try being truthful if you want to be believed.

Oh please,

The virgin didn't give birth to Mighty God, before Jesus the man was born, He was already Mighty God

forget the "we" I believe the scriptures that say the virgin gave birth to the Son of God,
your continual insults show the spirit that's in you.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" 2 Tim3:16




Scripture:"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold,a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" Isaiah 7:14

Scripture:"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,....Isaiah 9:6

Scripture: "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

Despite all these, a "christian" still says:

Johnw74 : The virgin didn't give birth to Mighty God.

johnw74:
To an atheist Syncan say's "Dear one"

To this Christian he say's continual accusations and insults



God was never born
God is the Father of Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ is the Son of God the Father
Mary gave birth to the Son of God, just as the scriptures say

before Jesus was born man, He is the Word of God
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

When He ascended to Heaven He again is the Word of God
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.


God was never born, but always has been and always will be

Psa 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

Psa 93:2 Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting.

There is not one single scripture saying that God was born or had a beginning
God cannot be born, the man Jesus was born the Son of God

Syncan say's God was born of Mary.

Amen. Amen.

Syncan says God was born of the Virgin Mary.

Scripture says the Mighty God was born of the Virgin.

Johnw74 says God was never born.

...and johnw74 says he reads scriptures.

johnw74:
To an atheist Syncan say's "Dear one"

To this Christian he say's continual accusations and insults

Check out the postings of the one you call an atheist (MizJanet), and see how respectful they appeared, but check out yours:

First without provocation you addressed her thus:

johnw74:
What say you MizPoo.

Yet she didn't return the insult anywhere in her post, but you went ahead and said this:

johnw74:
You have little to no understanding

Now you complain I addressed an atheist as dear one, while I throw your misdemeanor back at you who claims to be a "Christian". The pharisee and the publican is a story in the scriptures, find it and read.

Syncan:
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" 2 Tim3:16




Scripture:"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold,a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" Isaiah 7:14

Scripture:"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,....Isaiah 9:6


Scripture: "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

Immanuel means God with us, Jesus is God, how many times do you want me to say that,
that verse does not say Mary gave birth to God, but to a son.

Jesus is the mighty God, how many times have I said it,
that verse does not say Mary gave birth to God.

God is from everlasting, He wasn't born and He cannot be born,
but His Son can, and was

Despite all these, a "christian" still says:

Johnw74 : The virgin didn't give birth to Mighty God.

God can never ever be born because He always was
and you probably will never ever get it.

Syncan:
Amen. Amen.

Syncan says God was born of the Virgin Mary.

Scripture says the Mighty God was born of the Virgin.

That's a lie and changing what scripture say's.
scripture say's Jesus is mighty God, scripture does not say, "Mighty God was born of the virgin"

Johnw74 says God was never born.

Yes and scripture also shows that God was never born,
saying He is from everlasting to everlasting.

...and johnw74 says he reads scriptures.

And unlike you I understand them.

Syncan:
Check out the postings of the one you call an atheist (MizJanet), and see how respectful they appeared, but check out yours:

First without provocation you addressed her thus:

I don't know if she has edited her posts, cleaning them up or not,
but I know when she first started posting here she used bad language,
saying the word s-h-i-t and other in her posts.

Yet she didn't return the insult anywhere in her post, but you went ahead and said this:



Now you complain I addressed an atheist as dear one, while I throw your misdemeanor back at you who claims to be a "Christian". The pharisee and the publican is a story in the scriptures, find it and read.

And once again accuser doesn't know what he is talking about.

johnw74:
I don't know if she has edited her posts, cleaning them up or not,
but I know when she first started posting here she used bad language,
saying the word s-h-i-t and other in her posts.

And once again accuser doesn't know what he is talking about.

Why are you like this? Why do you like to tell lies even with the truth starring at you? You quoted her posts before calling her MzPoo and telling her she has little or no understanding, did she edit those quotes on your posts too? Can she do that? It's right there for all to see. Look, only the truth shall set you free, Christianity is not a lip service thing.

johnw74:
Immanuel means God with us, Jesus is God, how many times do you want me to say that,
that verse does not say Mary gave birth to God, but to a son.

Jesus is the mighty God, how many times have I said it,
that verse does not say Mary gave birth to God.

God is from everlasting, He wasn't born and He cannot be born,
but His Son can, and was

God can never ever be born because He always was
and you probably will never ever get it.

You agree that Jesus is God. You agree that Jesus was God in Mary's womb. You agree that Mary gave birth to Jesus who is the mighty God. But you do not agree that Mary gave birth to God, Lol. I hear you.

johnw74:
God is from everlasting, He wasn't born and He cannot be born,
but His Son can, and was

And at the bold, is the son not from everlasting?

Scripture has been laid bare for you to see.

"Oh, that today you would listen as he speaks! Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion." Heb.3:15

MizJanet:
Miss , and what make you diferent from this pple called catholics ; should i ask: who is the mother of God ?

who the hell told u that God has a mother

johnw74:
That's a lie and changing what scripture say's.
scripture say's Jesus is mighty God, scripture does not say, "Mighty God was born of the virgin"

Scripture:"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold,a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" Isaiah 7:14

Scripture:"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,....Isaiah 9:6

johnw74:
Yes and scripture also shows that God was never born,
saying He is from everlasting to everlasting.

And unlike you I understand them.

Indeed I see how much you understand.