i dont mean to offend anyone or cause a debate here,just curious about what christians say.I have a few questions which are:
(1) if jesus was on earth when he was born who was up in the heaven.
(2)why must jesus die for our sin when he is the one that forgives,why not just forgive us and that is it.
(3)And i heard he eats and drink,which is not befitting to god to have urges of hunger and thirst.
(4)lastly is jesus the God himself or is his son.
please someone with the knowledge of christianity should answer

mannasy:
i dont mean to offend anyone or cause a debate here,just curious about what christians say.I have a few questions which are:
(1) if jesus was on earth when he was born who wa ts up in the heaven.
(2)why must jesus die for our sin when he is the one that forgives,why not just forgive us and that is it.
(3)And i heard he eats and drink,which is not befitting to god to have urges of hunger and thirst.
(4)lastly is jesus the God himself or is his son.
please someone with the knowledge of christianity should answer

They will never answer u bros,coz of the fact that they themselves dont have an answer to it.Point out a clear cut and unambiguous verse in the bible where Jesus says he is GOD..if they can and that verse exits all Muslims should revet to Christianity

I de wait..

mannasy:
i dont mean to offend anyone or cause a debate here,just curious about what christians say.I have a few questions which are:
(1) if jesus was on earth when he was born who was up in the heaven.
(2)why must jesus die for our sin when he is the one that forgives,why not just forgive us and that is it.
(3)And i heard he eats and drink,which is not befitting to god to have urges of hunger and thirst.
(4)lastly is jesus the God himself or is his son.
please someone with the knowledge of christianity should answer

Sorry bro, you can't get the answer to these questions because no matter how one explians to you, you still & will never understand except u have the holy spirit (the great teacher). The kingdom of God is a mystery & the only way God makes known the mystery of His kingdom is through his son Jesus.

The only way you can get an answer to those questions is by accepting Jesus & receiving the gift of the Spirit. So don't ask. its either you accept Jesus or mind your own business.

(1) if Jesus was on earth when he was born who was up in the heaven.
Ans: The Father.

(2)why must Jesus die for our sin when he is the one that forgives,why not just forgive us and that is it.
Ans: The reason he didn't just forgive us is because Satan the accuser of the brethren is always on a mission to accuse us before the father and in-order to counter this, Jesus had to die in order to present evidence to the Father in the heavenly court that he paid the price for our sins and that Satan have no right to accuse you (oh say thank you Jesus).

3)And i heard he eats and drink,which is not befitting to god to have urges of hunger and thirst.
Ans: He did this in-order to teach the people that he is the fountain of life as it is written "But whoever drinks the water that I will give him will never become thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become a well of water for him, springing up to eternal life."John 4:14.
Indeed, the Spirit of God within you is like a well of water that you can access anytime, anywhere.

4)lastly is Jesus the God himself or is his son
Ans: This takes us back to your question no1 and behold this is the beauty and the mystery of the trinity. Whatever you want him to be for you, that's what he will be for you. But for now, what you need to do is to accept him as your personal Lord and Saviour and he will reveal himself to you on a personal level.

The quran says Jesus was not born of human sexual relations,that His birth was by the Spirit of the Almighty.
This question comes from people who have this thing written in their books and yet can't understand the divinity.

mannasy:
i dont mean to offend anyone or cause a debate here,just curious about what christians say.I have a few questions which are:
(1) if jesus was on earth when he was born who was up in the heaven.
(2)why must jesus die for our sin when he is the one that forgives,why not just forgive us and that is it.
(3)And i heard he eats and drink,which is not befitting to god to have urges of hunger and thirst.
(4)lastly is jesus the God himself or is his son.
please someone with the knowledge of christianity should answer

Someone already said you wont understand any explanation, the fact is you cant view Christianity through a pragmatic prism, its more than science or philosophy. But I will try to make you understand anyway

1 Have you ever heard of the trinity, God the father, the son and the holy spirit, call it 3 in 1. Will you understand it if I call it a bundle that has 3 diff components where each segment represents and can replace the other. So Jesus was on earth then God the father was in heaven. Jesus said I and the father are one.

2 When God created the 1st Adam, satan defeated him. Adam was a perfect refined man without blemish but by falling for the devil he contaminated his blood hence the need for a 2nd Adam became necessary. The blood of Jesus, the 2nd Adam, was needed to pay for the sin of mankind and to elevate man from the dungeon which the the 1st Adam had dragged mankind into.

3 God the son, Jesus, came to the earth as a man to live among human and don’t human eat? Where you expecting the kind of Nickolas cage or Jumong kind of superhuman? He is not a magician, Jesus lived as the lowly, dining and wining with people, he even attended a wedding, rode on a donkey and what have you.

4 It’s the trinity. Like I explained above, God the father, the son and the holy spirit is a pack with 3 different components


But i think religion shouldnt be percieved with such mindset. Serve your God and love everybody, is there any logic in trying to discredit another man's believe?

So The Almighty raped A poor Virgin Mary?

When Jesus was on the cross after being nailed there by the jews....Who was he praying to? was God praying to himself?

The prologue of John's gospel is an important work within the New Testament, because it provides perhaps the clearest statement of Who Jesus was in spiritual terms. Essentially, John's prologue states that Jesus was God, but it also seeks to explain, to a certain extent, the nature of Jesus' existence and His role within the Godhead.

Let's start by examining the opening verses in John's Gospel:

 
John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2  He was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
 

John uses the Greek word logos to describe Jesus "in the beginning," or before creation and time began. Logos means word, but specifically it means the spoken word or a statement. Jesus is God's spoken word, according to John.

John then explains that the Word (Jesus) was "with" God and "was" God. This statement yields two important conclusions regarding Jesus and the Trinity: Jesus is God and existed from the beginning as God, yet Jesus' existence is somehow distinct from God the Father. Jesus was "with" God and "was" God at the same time. This is the mystery of the Trinity: all three Persons in the Godhead are One God and yet all are distinct from one another.

Moving to verse 3, John says that it was the Word (Him) that created all things. From this statement, we begin to see why Jesus is called the "Word" by John. Consider these facts we learn from John's Gospel and elsewhere in Scripture:

First, we know from scripture that God the Father is Spirit (John 4:24), meaning He doesn't exist in physical form. So, there is no physical substance to God the Father. The Creation cannot experience the Father as He truly is, since we are bound to a physical dimension yet He is not physical.

Secondly, we know that God's Spirit is likewise invisible (John 3:6-. He can only be known by observing His work in the Creation.

On the other hand, Jesus is the member of the Godhead responsible for all physical matter. As John said, all things were made by and through Jesus. Paul says the same thing in Col 1:15-17. 

More over, Paul teaches in Colossians that Jesus is the "image of the invisible God." Therefore, He is the only Person in the Godhead Who has entered into and become a part of the physical creation. Jesus can be seen in a physical sense, because He is the One Who entered into the Creation and become a part of it (i.e., became incarnate).

Therefore, Jesus is the One within the Trinity Who is associated with Creation, both as its source and as an ambassador of the Godhead to that creation.

Next, consider how the Creation itself was established in Genesis 1. Genesis 1 teaches that the world was created by the spoken word of God (note the repeating phrase in Genesis 1, "Then God said...". So when God the Father determined to created the universe and everything in it, He "spoke" it into existence. But as John said in verse 3, Jesus was the One who made all things, therefore we can say that Jesus was God's logos, or spoken Word.

We can begin to understand this partnership (at least to some degree) by drawing an analogy to how our own thoughts and words reach into the physical word. When we desire to command something to happen in the world around us, we must first conceive the idea in our minds. No one can see our thoughts. They are invisible, yet they certainly exist. Without our thoughts, we could purpose to do nothing at all.

If our thoughts are to become visible in some way, they must move from the invisible realm of our mind and into the physical world. The progression from invisible to visible requires we transfer our invisible thoughts into a spoken command. The brain communicates our thoughts to our mouth where it becomes logos: spoken words.

Once the spoken word leaves our mouth, it enters the physical world and yields its intended effect. This simple analogy helps explain how God the Father worked with God the Son (i.e., the Word) to establish Creation.

This is John's meaning when he says that Jesus is the Word. He meant that Jesus is the physical manifestation of God the Father, just as a spoken word is the physical manifestation of our inner thoughts. Until Jesus took action and created the universe, there was no physical reality to God's presence. But when God "spoke" (i.e., when Jesus took action), the Creation came into existence.

Later, Jesus arrived in Person to meet with His creation, and as Jesus spoke His words to His disciples, He fulfilled the Father's purpose by providing a physical representation of the Godhead to His creation.  Hebrews says it this way:

 
Heb. 1:1  God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,
Heb. 1:2  in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
Heb. 1:3  And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power...
 

Paul reiterates this same thought in Colossians when he says:

 
Col. 1:15  He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
Col. 1:16  For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities — all things have been created through Him and for Him.
 

Jesus is the Word because He was the means through which the Father brought all physical reality into existence and because He is the One Who represents the Father's invisible nature and character to that creation. Just as your spoken word is the physical manifestation of your thoughts and personality, Jesus is the "Word" of the invisible God to His creation.

mannasy:
i dont mean to offend anyone or cause a debate here,just curious about what christians say.I have a few questions which are:
(1) if jesus was on earth when he was born who was up in the heaven.
(2)why must jesus die for our sin when he is the one that forgives,why not just forgive us and that is it.
(3)And i heard he eats and drink,which is not befitting to god to have urges of hunger and thirst.
(4)lastly is jesus the God himself or is his son.
please someone with the knowledge of christianity should answer

Dear OP, I want to believe that you asked these questions out of sincerity, and not for a debate. The answers people will give will never be enough for you until you have an experience just like Paul had in the bible days. My advice to you is to call on God, your maker and ask him in all sincerity, talk to Jesus, tell him to show you who he truly is. If you keep asking in all sincerity and consistently, He would prove Himself to you. And my prayer is that when He does, you would be the Paul of our time.

podosci:
When Jesus was on the cross after being nailed there by the jews....Who was he praying to? was God praying to himself?

Its a mystery that you can't understand only those who are in Christ understands it.

sunnyt1:


Someone already said you wont understand any explanation, the fact is you cant view Christianity through a pragmatic prism, its more than science or philosophy. But I will try to make you understand anyway

1 Have you ever heard of the trinity, God the father, the son and the holy spirit, call it 3 in 1. Will you understand it if I call it a bundle that has 3 diff components where each segment represents and can replace the other. So Jesus was on earth then God the father was in heaven. Jesus said I and the father are one.

2 When God created the 1st Adam, satan defeated him. Adam was a perfect refined man without blemish but by falling for the devil he contaminated his blood hence the need for a 2nd Adam became necessary. The blood of Jesus, the 2nd Adam, was needed to pay for the sin of mankind and to elevate man from the dungeon which the the 1st Adam had dragged mankind into.

3 God the son, Jesus, came to the earth as a man to live among human and don’t human eat? Where you expecting the kind of Nickolas cage or Jumong kind of superhuman? He is not a magician, Jesus lived as the lowly, dining and wining with people, he even attended a wedding, rode on a donkey and what have you.

4 It’s the trinity. Like I explained above, God the father, the son and the holy spirit is a pack with 3 different components


But i think religion shouldnt be percieved with such mindset. Serve your God and love everybody, is there any logic in trying to discredit another man's believe?

Jesus said...this, Jesus said that... the persons who said Jesus said...were not alive wen Jesus was, they've never seen Jesus... They may be alleging such blasphemous acts to Jesus

realdee44:
Its a mystery that you can't understand only those who are in Christ understands it.

if you can't explain it to others then it's a lie, even u don't fully understand ur faith, that's the difference between Christians n other faiths there can't be more than one God

mustymatic:

if you can't explain it to others then it's a lie, even u don't fully understand ur faith, that's the difference between Christians n other faiths there can't be more than one God

hahaha you are funny. Don't say what you don't no. The truth remains that u will never understand. The only way u will understand is if u have the Holy spirit in you.

mustymatic:

if you can't explain it to others then it's a lie, even u don't fully understand ur faith, that's the difference between Christians n other faiths there can't be more than one God

That you can't comprehend it doesn't mean its a lie. The sweet thing about the Christians is that we don't care about other ppl's faith we just mind our biz.

realdee44:
That you can't comprehend it doesn't mean its a lie. The sweet thing about the Christians is that we don't care about other ppl's faith we just mind our biz.

Even when the bible say prove all things. you can not mind your business, you must be able to prove your religion word by word.

How come Bible is not mention in the Bible?

How come Jesus never ask you to practice Christianity?

Who is Paul? He never met Jesus and was not prophesies

realdee44:
hahaha you are funny. Don't say what you don't no. The truth remains that u will never understand. The only way u will understand is if u have the Holy spirit in you.

Na wa ooo, holy spirit indeed... I fully understand, it's just that it doesn't make sense, holy spirit like the one Jesus possessed?

realdee44:
That you can't comprehend it doesn't mean its a lie. The sweet thing about the Christians is that we don't care about other ppl's faith we just mind our biz.

R U SURE?

realdee44:
Sorry bro, you can't get the answer to these questions because no matter how one explians to you, you still & will never understand except u have the holy spirit (the great teacher). The kingdom of God is a mystery & the only way God makes known the mystery of His kingdom is through his son Jesus.

The only way you can get an answer to those questions is by accepting Jesus & receiving the gift of the Spirit. So don't ask. its either you accept Jesus or mind your own business.

ok since you have said you have to first blindly accept xtianity in order to understand.you that have the holy spirit,do you understand it?/how do you understand it.

crusadistic:
ok since you have said you have to first blindly accept xtianity in order to understand.you that have the holy spirit,do you understand it?/how do you understand it.

You are really funny. Even if I explian to you there is nothing you will understand so am done talking to guys. I have made my points clear. Maturity is allowing other pratice what they believe while you focus on your own believe & faith. Am sure u guys are matured.

realdee44:
You are really funny. Even if I explian to you there is nothing you will understand so am done talking to guys. I have made my points clear. Maturity is allowing other pratice what they believe while you focus on your own believe & faith. Am sure u guys are matured.

see double standards,like xtians are not the people who disturb more and attack other religious beliefs most.am not even attacking or denigrating your belief I simply asked a question.or weren't you ordered by Jesus to preach the gospels is it not also your duty in clarifying things.

realdee44:
Its a mystery that you can't understand only those who are in Christ understands it.

Even those in Christ don't understand, they just chose to ignore and try to keep faith because they are afraid of the answer that awaits their ignorance ...

@podosci I understand perfectly and that's why I'm a christian.

Pls why does muslims reason the way they do? You mean the word 'Bible' should have been mentioned in the Bible? What? Lol. Pls, the Bible means a collection of books. Its not like the koran which was premeditated. Mohammed had the name of his book before he wrote it. The biblical prophets, kings and all those who in their time documented their experiences with God didn't even know that their individual encounters will be compiled as one book. This men didn't know each other, but they spoke with one voice and followed one theme. The coming of the messiah.
Wow, can u hear that? Why didn't Jesus ask christians to practice Christianity? The Christians where not even the ones who refered to themselves as christians. The Antiochans did. And they didn't mean it as a compliment, it was meant as a reproach. But the name stuck. So how could Jesus who had died, ressurrected and ascended into heaven before christianity was founded, command his followers to practice christianity? Christianity is different from Islam.
No matter how hard u guys try to make Islam similar to christianity, it can't be. Muhammed took from the practices of the god allah, his father and grand father worshipped, plagiarised the bible then added some superstitions, all by himself and formed a religion. And since after him, no one else has had an encounter with allah. Why is that? That's becos, the guy is a false prophet and he worked and the spirit behind him is still working very hard.

thorpido:
The quran says Jesus was not born of human sexual relations,that His birth was by the Spirit of the Almighty.
This question comes from people who have this thing written in their books and yet can't understand the divinity.

Very True!

mannasy:

please someone with the knowledge of christianity should answer

A lot of Muslims don't read the Koran. They wait for Imams to spew lies out every Friday. (Christians are guilty but its endemic in Islam). This is why someone can tell them to strap a BOMB on their body and blew up Women and Children so a to get Virgins in Heaven.

The Koran spoke about Jesus (Isa al Masih), how He was born, miracles and how He ascended into Heaven and how He will come again. A lot of Muslims don't know that Jesus second coming in their Koran.

Jesus taken to Heaven:
But they killed him not, nor crucified him; It was only a likeness shown to them: Most certainly they killed him not. Rather, God lifted him up to Himself. Quran 4:157-8

Jesus second coming:
And there is none of the People of the Book but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Judgment, he will be a witness against them. Quran 4:159

According to our great saint, St. Augustine of Hippo, d Holy TRINITY is a mystery, its like a man, trying to empty an ocean into a small hole wif a basket.
Datz d beauty of christianity



NB: muhamMad and allahh were both mad men
D former(54) ra pe ed aishat(9), d latter gave d former d go-ahead

NumberOne2:

Very True!




A lot of Muslims don't read the Koran. They wait for Imams to spew lies out every Friday. (Christians are guilty but its endemic in Islam). This is why someone can tell them to strap a BOMB on their body and blew up Women and Children so a to get Virgins in Heaven.

The Koran spoke about Jesus (Isa al Masih), how He was born, miracles and how He ascended into Heaven and how He will come again. A lot of Muslims don't know that Jesus second coming in their Koran.

Jesus taken to Heaven:
But they killed him not, nor crucified him; It was only a likeness shown to them: Most certainly they killed him not. Rather, God lifted him up to Himself. Quran 4:157-8

Jesus second coming:
And there is none of the People of the Book but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Judgment, he will be a witness against them. Quran 4:159

Abuamam ma paddy rilwayne001 tartar9 empiree tola9ja udatso
Dispute dis and get an award
muhamMAD(dbuh)
*disaster be upon him(dbuh)

realdee44:
Sorry bro, you can't get the answer to these questions because no matter how one explians to you, you still & will never understand except u have the holy spirit (the great teacher). The kingdom of God is a mystery & the only way God makes known the mystery of His kingdom is through his son Jesus.

The only way you can get an answer to those questions is by accepting Jesus & receiving the gift of the Spirit. So don't ask. its either you accept Jesus or mind your own business.

wow¡ That is not the way to welcome a curious mind?

OREMUSSANCTUS:

Abuamam ma paddy rilwayne001 tartar9 empiree tola9ja udatso
Dispute dis and get an award
muhamMAD(dbuh)
*disaster be upon him(dbuh)

I can't believe you are filled with this much hate. Wow

crusadistic:
see double standards,like xtians are not the people who disturb more and attack other religious beliefs most.am not even attacking or denigrating your belief I simply asked a question.or weren't you ordered by Jesus to preach the gospels is it not also your duty in clarifying things.

My answer is that you should search into your heart, and ask yourself whether you are in the right religion. Most of us are in one religion or the other through the influence of our parents , so we are more likely to justify that faith.
Maybe you should pray genuinely one day that God should show you an evidence of the right path, and I am sure he will.

Dollyak:

wow¡ That is not the way to welcome a curious mind?

That is just the truth there is no other way to say it & there is nothing wrong with what I explianed to him except you are reading a different meaning to what I said.

mannasy:
i dont mean to offend anyone or cause a debate here,just curious about what christians say.I have a few questions which are:
(1) if jesus was on earth when he was born who was up in the heaven.
(2)why must jesus die for our sin when he is the one that forgives,why not just forgive us and that is it.
(3)And i heard he eats and drink,which is not befitting to god to have urges of hunger and thirst.
(4)lastly is jesus the God himself or is his son.
please someone with the knowledge of christianity should answer

all ur 4 questions has one answer. Jesus is d son of God not God. He was sent to earth by God