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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by linked: 11:17am On Jun 11, 2015
chaberry:
This is what you get when you prefer to play Germany in football rather than serbia. infact, you guys underrate them, Jeezz! Who underate Germany in football?
.... SMH.. . You really need help

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mikron(m): 11:18am On Jun 11, 2015
The coach should not have allowed personal issues with some few players affect the overall performance of the team, the boys played well, I was impressed with the defense, the keeper enaholo should have parried that goal bound ball away but unfortunately the ball slipped through his hands. In the 2nd half the boys came out to play their game but it was too late cos the coach didn't do the needful from the beginning. The boys played well, today is just not their day. The coach destabilized everything. The battle was lost in the middle of the pack.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:19am On Jun 11, 2015
LeeCodeman:


I think it's time to agree with you here.

Did Manu sell this match to the highest bidder? I know that even top European teams sell matches for bets. Could it be the case?

This is not MAnu, like Joseph said. He is more tactical than this. He can read games. He knows his weaknesses and plays to his strength.

He did the complete opposite in this game.


The question Coach Manu should answer is why wait until 80 mins to make his second change. In a match we were clearly dominated. Then a tactically wrong change.

He brought in Nwakali a holding/ defensive midfielder and took off an offensive midfielder in a dying minutes when we are chasing a goal.

There is nothing anyone can tell me. I have watched football for so long to know a sold match.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mikron(m): 11:20am On Jun 11, 2015
Dega128:





I think it's about time African government s not just the FA invest heavily and liasson with European academy s right from the under 10 to 20

Enough of the theaterics and showmanship and let's get serious angry

Francophone west Africa is gradually doing well with the French youth system.


Ghana and Nigeria have the talent s no doubt but is it enough undecided


If Akporugu hope I got the name correctly were to have been born in Nigeria would have be an ordinary player but for German indoctrination


Need I say more angry

u re right. His name is akpoguma

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mrham03(m): 11:20am On Jun 11, 2015
mikron:
And his tactics failed us once more today
sorry bro, i know how it hurts to be out. I think manu garba should be given a second chance. Dis was his first time at an under-20 worldcup.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by chaberry(m): 11:21am On Jun 11, 2015
linked:
.... SMH.. . You really need help
No! i don't, you need it instead, you're the one going through heartbreak, but for me, i have been expecting defeat right from when the defeated the Hungarians
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by safarigirl(f): 11:23am On Jun 11, 2015
LeeCodeman:


I think it's time to agree with you here.

Did Manu sell this match to the highest bidder? I know that even top European teams sell matches for bets. Could it be the case?

This is not MAnu, like Joseph said. He is more tactical than this. He can read games. He knows his weaknesses and plays to his strength.

He did the complete opposite in this game.
dunno what the hell happened...didn't even see the match. But if you had given an elementary school ccoach this team, he would've thrown everything at the Germans and gone full throttle....I mean, it was that basic.

Throw the freaking arsenal and damn it to hell. I'm not even close to being a coach, but I damn sure would have done better
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by joseph1013: 11:24am On Jun 11, 2015
chaberry:
You think this is our worst performance? Well, i don't think so, they even play worse than this against Korea(especially in the first half), they look so bad 2day because Germany makes them look so bad, Germany are a very consistant, tactical and physical team and as we have already find out they are a team that are in form and knows how to score, just like in the group stage where they didn't dominate most of their games but still score alot of goals. While In the other hand our team haven't been impressive since the begginning of this tournament and thats the reason i have been urging our team to avoid Germany

Damn...why are you praising Germany What did Germany play in this match. Their goal was a fluke. The keeper was at fault. If the Flying Eagles we know had that possession, we would have scored nothing more less than 2 goals.

What happened in this match was that we knew Germany's strengths and weaknesses. We used our weaknesses to play their strengths and did not use our strength at all.

For Sango's sake, what the heck was Bulbwa doing in that match for 90mins. Even in the games when he was having a few touches, he was substituted. In this match, we were behind and he was offering nothing yet he played for 90 mins.

Please can anybody explain that?

This game required game changers. We had them all on the bench. Moses, Mathew, Iheanacho, Yahaya, even Chidera. Manu did not act like there was a need for them.

We need someone to call FBI to investigate this match.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:25am On Jun 11, 2015
chaberry:
This is what you get when you prefer to play Germany in football rather than serbia. infact, you guys underrate them, Jeezz! Who underate Germany in football?

No one underrated them. But, this our team is Super and we should not fear anyone. By the way, we did not lose because we met a superior opponent. We lost because the coaching crew did not do right things.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by ajf(m): 11:25am On Jun 11, 2015
Smart coaches find a way to make the most talented players in their team perform when they are not doing so, and not cut them out completely. I'm not even sure this team would have beaten Serbia.
The player that made the most mistakes against Brazil didn't even lose his spot.
#ManuKnowsBest

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mrham03(m): 11:29am On Jun 11, 2015
TheGoodJoe:



The question Coach Manu should answer is why wait until 80 mins to make his second change. In a match we were clearly dominated. Then a tactically wrong change.

He brought in Nwakali a holding/ defensive midfielder and took off an offensive midfielder in a dying minute when we are chasing a goal.

There is nothing anyone can tell me. I have watched football for so long to know a sold match.
i think arrogance caused manu dis game. Maybe he and nacho have issues i wont know but any coach will make early changes in the second half when u team is poor in the first. The team needed players who would have kept possession, dribble and create chances but those players were all on the bench.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:29am On Jun 11, 2015
joseph1013:


This game required game changers. We had them all on the bench. Moses, Mathew, Iheanacho, Yahaya, even Chidera. Manu did not act like there was a need for them.

You do not need a football genius to see this. So, how did Coach Manu Garba, a football genius miss this. This was what we talked about before the game. SMH.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Krasid(m): 11:31am On Jun 11, 2015
joseph1013:


I'm sorry...alot of these players will rot in Nigeria. What would have helped them was for them to play good football that we KNOW they can play and be snapped up by foreign teams that would nurture them. We didnt do that. Infact, we played to their weaknesses.

Quote me if top teams snap up up to three of the lads playing in Nigeria after now.

We just wasted a generation of extremely talented stars.
True.The talents of most of these players would be wasted.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Emmzyst: 11:31am On Jun 11, 2015
chaberry:
This is what you get when you prefer to play Germany in football rather than serbia. infact, you guys underrate them, Jeezz! Who underate Germany in football?
Thank u very much. I said it here that Manu lack football politics.
He should av avoided Germany by even trying out Nacho, Success and Moses with the Hungary match.
These 3 no matter what, av played big stage match and av better experience and confidence.
All they needed was to at most draw Hungary and avoid Germany at least at this stage. Then as the competition progress, they will grow into more tactics and experience.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mikron(m): 11:31am On Jun 11, 2015
We should not forget that the weather in Christchurch also counted against us, I just heard it in brilafm that the temperature was 3 degrees. Very very cold, I believe only iheanacho, yahaya and nwakali are accustomed to such weather, could it be that the freezing conditions affected us greatly? because I believe the Germans were not better save for the lone goal. On football extreme weather conditions like this affect players coming from temperate regions like Africa. I believe in this team. I love the team as always. The land is green
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by linked: 11:32am On Jun 11, 2015
chaberry:
No! i don't, you need it instead, you're the one going through heartbreak, but for me, i have been expecting defeat right from when the defeated the Hungarians
.... You're getting it wrong... Germany wasn't the problem... The problem is that after three matches the eagles have refuse to leave gear one....
I love it when a team fight gallantly for a comeback when they trail the game... If the eagles had lost today after a top-notch performance that would just be ok... Not this pitiful display.

You need help to realize this and stop screaming Germany... . They can lose too

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:33am On Jun 11, 2015
mrham03:
Any coach will make early changes in the second half when u team is poor in the first. The team needed players who would have kept possession, dribble and create chances but those players were all on the bench.

You see the term term you used. Any Coach. So how come such a high profile coach who worked in two U17 World Cups, Two African U17 championships, won the AYC missed such basics in football coaching?
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by ajf(m): 11:35am On Jun 11, 2015
mikron:
We should not forget that the weather in Christchurch also counted against us, I just heard it in brilafm that the temperature was 3 degrees. Very very cold, I believe only iheanacho, yahaya and nwakali are accustomed to such weather, could it be that the freezing conditions affected us greatly? because I believe the Germans were not better save for the lone goal. On football extreme weather conditions like this affect players coming from temperate regions like Africa. I believe in this team. I love the team as always. The land is green
Oga, forget weather! Didn't Switzerland come to our own hot weather to win the U-17 world Cup?

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:35am On Jun 11, 2015
mikron:
We should not forget that the weather in Christchurch also counted against us, I just heard it in brilafm that the temperature was 3 degrees. Very very cold, I believe only iheanacho, yahaya and nwakali are accustomed to such weather, could it be that the freezing conditions affected us greatly? because I believe the Germans were not better save for the lone goal. On football extreme weather conditions like this affect players coming from temperate regions like Africa. I believe in this team. I love the team as always. The land is green

Even if we are talking about weather, why keep boys who have played winter football on the bench. There is now way we can twist it. The coach has enjoyed himself. No wonder he was laughing while we were crying.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Badosqi(m): 11:38am On Jun 11, 2015
Please someone should tell me what is the essence of bringing 21 players to the tournament when the coach is only interested in his chosen ones.

Yes against Brazil iheanacho and some other were not fantastic but why no give them a chance to redeem themselves. Bulbwa started 3 consecutive matches but in all honesty this guy was always a minus one, you hardly see him on the pitch nd the coach kept on using him on every match day benching the likes of simon moses and iheanacho.

I made a comment yesterday that is the likes of Moses, iheanacho, success and yahaya that poor that they can't get a starting shirt. Is there something going on with the team that we don't understand.

our substitution was very bad, bringing in success at that time was just wrong. We needed a creative midfielder that can send the forward passes that we needed not another striker when it is obvious that they won't have the ball to score with.



Nwakali when we are one goal down and in need of a goal....Gushhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Birikiti: 11:40am On Jun 11, 2015
chaberry:
Garner experience? Do you think this is a senior w.cup? 99% of this team will out-grow this tournament when next it comes(2017), thats if they haven't outgrown it now and believe me due to their failure at this stage of the competition(r.16) you won't remember 70 to 80% of them in 3 to 4yrs time.. It won't have been like this if they had avoided Germany

I'd have to disagree with you on this.

Yes we are all not happy such a promising side will be kicked out in such a bland manner. However we all know that htis team is a very talented team and only needed their coaches to be more wily and astute to outfox all opponents in the World Cup.

Up to 70% of this team are still eligible for the next edition. The German team (oldest team in the Competition) were clearly more experienced and bossed our guys for 90 minutes. It would have been different if many of our guys have had European experience (why Manu benched Simon and Kelechi for 90 mins remains a mystery).

BTW guys like Nwakali, Awoniyi, Iheanacho, Zaharadin, Jide Idowu, Alampasu, Abdulai Alfa, Chidera Eze etc are still very eligible for the next competition. 2 seasons in Europe should toughen them up and put us in good stead to challange for the Cup in 2017!

It's a bitter lesson for Manu/Ugbade and co. but let's not throw them away on the back of this campaign. They have gained valuable experience and should they imbibe the lessons, Nigeria will be the better for it.

On a final note, I'm still miffed at Nigerian coaches (at all levels) going into competitions with just one style of play and no back up. If we had varied our style today, we might just have nicked this match. Imagine us playing 3 across central defense with our full backs acting as wing backs. Also instead of Awoniyi being the lone striker, why not put Moses Simon up there with him and play 3 fighters in the midfield (Idowu, Nwakali and Ifeanyi). Before the Germans come to terms with this new formation (they would have watched our group matches and set themselves out to counter that formation), the damage would have been done.

I'm not a qualified coach but these things are common sense!

That's why I always doff my hat to the Siasia/Kalika combo. Their tactics and formation were always spot on! Even in the friendly match they lost to Argentina in Malaysia, the Argies threatened to whitewash the Super Eagles but tweaking things around and deploying players to neutralize Messi kept the scoreline respectable.
No other coaching crew has been like that for Nigeria except for Westerhof/Bonfrere maybe!

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mikron(m): 11:41am On Jun 11, 2015
And for the very first time in a long while we did not score a goal in regulation time, that is baffling. Even before the under 17 ayc in morroco the team have not played any match without us scoring. They are still the compact team I know. The land is green

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mrham03(m): 11:42am On Jun 11, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


You see the term term you used. Any Coach. So how come such a high profile coach who worked in two U17 World Cups, Two African U17 championships, won the AYC missed such basics in football coaching?
the truth is i dont know what was going thru manu's head. I think he was overwhelmed by the german's dominance earlier on in the game, maybe he gave up on his own team.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Badosqi(m): 11:43am On Jun 11, 2015
1 goal down in the knockout stage, the coach should have brought in the needed attackers. You are in the knockout 1 goal down why not go for the kill, sub in more attackers early in the second half you don't have to wait till 80 mins to make your second sub.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:43am On Jun 11, 2015
mrham03:
sorry bro, i know how it hurts to be out. I think manu garba should be given a second chance. Dis was his first time at an under-20 worldcup.

No let him go. Manu can keep his bright brain to himself. If this is how he repays our support and the young players that believed in him.

Nacho should be with the main team at Man City preparing for the preseason. He is about to break into the main squad. Some even tip him to knock of Dzeko and he comes to face this.

What stops Manu from allowing him to attack for the last twenty minutes. Salvage the game and bring back the home based lads.

Awo, better sign for Esperance. Bulbwa, do not tear your Esperance agreement.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by mikron(m): 11:43am On Jun 11, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


Even if we are talking about weather, why keep boys who have played winter football on the bench. There is now way we can twist it. The coach has enjoyed himself. No wonder he was laughing while we were crying.
was he laughing? angry
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:44am On Jun 11, 2015
mikron:
was he laughing? angry

Laughing to the bank.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by drpialabi: 11:45am On Jun 11, 2015
Now that our darling super flying eagles are out. Can someone declare this thread closed?
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:46am On Jun 11, 2015
mrham03:
the truth is i dont know what was going thru manu's head. I think he was overwhelmed by the german's dominance earlier on in the game, maybe he gave up on his own team.

But at least he knows basic football. He spent almost the whole time with one substitute in the game his team was dominated.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by Badosqi(m): 11:46am On Jun 11, 2015
safarigirl:
dunno what the hell happened...didn't even see the match. But if you had given an elementary school ccoach this team, he would've thrown everything at the Germans and gone full throttle....I mean, it was that basic.

Throw the freaking arsenal and damn it to hell. I'm not even close to being a coach, but I damn sure would have done better
you are right my sister, why not attack the germans with your arsenal in the second half when you half nothing else to lose(you are alredy one goal down go for the kill). yahaya, simon, iheanacho on the bench throughout 90mins.

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Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:46am On Jun 11, 2015
Badosqi:
1 goal down in the knockout stage, the coach should have brought in the needed attackers. You are in the knockout 1 goal down why not go for the kill, sub in more attackers early in the second half you don't have to wait till 80 mins to make your second sub.
Re: Flying Eagles of Nigeria Thread: U-20 World Cup (New Zealand 2015) by LeeCodeman: 11:52am On Jun 11, 2015
safarigirl:
dunno what the hell happened...didn't even see the match. But if you had given an elementary school ccoach this team, he would've thrown everything at the Germans and gone full throttle....I mean, it was that basic.

Throw the freaking arsenal and damn it to hell. I'm not even close to being a coach, but I damn sure would have done better

[b]Oh, you didnt watch the game? I'm happy you didnt because this game was painful to watch.

Let me tell you what happened:

From the blast of the whistle, all Nigerian players went defensive. We hardly did anything with the ball for the first 15 minutes. We left Awoniyi to be in front with no support. Anytime Sokari got the ball, he plays it to the opponent. Our wings was so flat that when their Captain, who is the right back, gets the ball, he comes into our half to torment us. They had a couple of balls in our area and wasted them. At a time, a fluke shot was thrown at our keeper, while he attempted to save it, the ball passed between his hands over his head and it was a goal.

After the goal, we knew we needed to score so Sokari got the ball and still kept giving it to the Germans. Bulbwa was supposed to be a winger but he was often found in our own half. Savior was the only outlet who took on players but there was no support since Awoniyi is often far away.

Our midfield was completely non-existent.

What would you do when it was halftime? What would the previous Manu Garba have done? Yeah right, you would have removed Sokari and Bulbwa for a start and play pacy players like Simon or Iheanacho or Ifeanyi to help the midfield and offer respite to the defence. Right?

Not the Manu Garba of today. Guess what he did? He did NOTHING. We continued playing like we had done in the first half, this time around Germany saw that we had no intention of winning the match and came out more. Now, our goalkeeper became very busy. To be truthful, he saved alot of shots, but I'm not surprised. They are saves he should save.

So what did Manu do? Guess again? Wrong, he removed our only outlet, Saviour Godwin and introduced another striker. Now the situation was worse now that the gap between our midfield and attack became very wide. Sokari was very useless by always conceding possession and, Success and Awoniyi were very isolated.

All this while, we still had NO SHOT ON TARGET.

Guess what Manu did next? You guessed right, he removed Sokari but this time on the 80th minute. Guess who he replaced him with? YOU ARE VERY WRONG!

He brought in a defensive midfielder when you fvcking need a goal and left proven goalscorers like Kelechi, Simon, and Yahaya on the bench.

Then we played and played like that until the referee blew.

Did I say that we did not make a third substiitution? Oh, we didnt. Manu wants to use that as a souvenir.

THE END.
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