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PureWays:
I'd say Neymar is the better player... When you play among the best players and you still shine, that proves that you are among the greats...

Example is Bale, you can't compare how he plays and shines in Totenham to now that he plays for Real Madrid.

It's not easy to play excellently when your team plays attacking football, where most of the opponent you face park the bus...lol.

If you play in a team where there's not much attention on the forwards, that gives you more chance to counter and show what you got...

Are u a footbal amateur, if u dont knw hw to compare players, then u keep away. Both players are good. Meanwhile u cant compare them without consideration to their team and their league.
1. It takes more strenght and commitment to perform in a tougher like EPL compare to Laliga. Ronaldo could nt win best player until he gnt to spain. Scoring and Dribling are easy in spain than england. I belief hazard wil do more if he go to spain.
2. Hazard is playing in a team where most of the attacking responsibility lies on his shoulder. Sometime he does the wrk of d midfielder and another thme, he attacks with dribling. Hazard has been instrumental to most of the game chelse won dis last season. He is a grate player.
In the other hand, neymer is playing with best midfielder (iniester), best and volatile attackers (messi and Suarex) and other grate player. He has little task to perform on the field because bulk of the wrk hav been done. He is also a good player.
3. Neymar score more then hazard.
4. Hazard is more humble than neymar
In a nutshel, i go for Hazardouse HAZARD.

binhozie:
I am not comparing neymar with oda Brazilian greats but I'm just saying if you see d way he carries d Brazilian team and wen he is not playing its like dere dead u saw it in d world cup na Brazil currently is almost a one man team and d goals he scores are not goals dat were spoon fed u see 40 yard shots with weaker foot free kicks tings DAT are alien to hazards game. I Dont know how to explain it to u sha but wen Oscar and willian and ramirez play for Brazil with neymar its like dey can't do anything without him like messi for barca in 2011. But in Chelsea its a little different hazard is arguably Chelsea s best player but d same feeling of being d only hope of d team is not there

you mean to say if neymar played against germany, brazil wouldn't have lost? lol..fyi, brazil played a game without neymar they won. don't even compare what messi do for barca and argentina to that of neymar for brazil while messi carry the team, the team feed neymar to score. neymar can't even play-make, he is just like cr7. yes they(cr7 and neymar) score the goals most times because the team is build around them unlike hazard who fall deep to start every attack.

slimsky:
he plays for the best team in d world..so,y should he leave..neymar won the best player @ the Confederations Cup beating the likes of xavi, iniesta, suarez(a player who hazard could not beat to the PFA when he played in England)and u think he will flop @ that overated league...SMH

confederation cup with just five games? lol..let neymar be the driving force of a team for 32 league games without dropping form like hazard.

hensben:
you mean to say if neymar played against germany, brazil wouldn't have lost? lol..fyi, brazil played a game without neymar they won. don't even compare what messi do for barca and argentina to that of neymar for brazil while messi carry the team, the team feed neymar to score. neymar can't even play-make, he is just like cr7. yes they(cr7 and neymar) score the goals most times because the team is build around them unlike hazard who fall deep to start every attack.

feed him in barca maybe but not Brazil that's where u are making the mistake for brazil its a different ball game he is d Messi in Brazil creating scoring driving d team forward
I mean u Dont expect him to be creating chances for messi even wen fabregas came it was messi creating chances for fabregas that's d way d team is structured if hazard comes it will be even worse cos if he can't get into does position and score plenty goals which is not his strenght problem dey oh.

binhozie:
feed him in barca maybe but not Brazil that's where u are making the mistake for brazil its a different ball game he is d Messi Brazil creating scoring driving d team forward

he is not the creator in brazil bro, i do watch most brazil games(both friendly and competition). neymar can't even do jack in mou formation considering he goes to the ground a lot and you know epl and their rugby style of play and epl ref hardly blow whistle for foul mostly, when they already mark a player as diver.

binhozie:
feed him in barca maybe but not Brazil that's where u are making the mistake for brazil its a different ball game he is d Messi in Brazil creating scoring driving d team forward
I mean u Dont expect him to be creating chances for messi even wen fabregas came it was messi creating chances for fabregas that's d way d team is structured if hazard comes it will be even worse cos if he can't get into does position and score plenty goals which is not his strenght problem dey oh.

see what a barca fan have to say about neymar, this guy is aticket holder in nou camp;
Honestly, I like neymar because he is a Barcelona player but at times I see him as a rude boy. Sometimes he is selfish even with his team mates but I like the way Messi and Suarez handle him because he is still a little boy but then he have to learn how to respect. Sometimes neymar played rudely and had it been neymar is playing with cr7 at real madrid, believe me that there would have been conflict between them but Messi knew he Messi is a prolific machine more than neymar by country mile. At times neymar played selfishly on the pitch but Messi and Suarez always overlook him and that is the reason there is unity among them because Messi and Suarez are matured, so they handle him like a small boy by overlooking all his obsessed for goals and making headlines as the world best. Now Brazilian fans are making him raise his shoulder's by comparing neymar to Messi but forgotten that Messi has achieved hugely at the age of neymar and Messi is the key point that makes neymar to be noticed last season but Brazilian fans never watch football they only watch neymar's tap ins after LEO has finish all the hard work from behind.

unless you started following football 5years ago, neymer wouldnt make the bench of brasil senior national team of last ten years.he is living up a hype just as david becham was for England.you dont rate players who play on hype with same measure.the brazilian national team is a dying team.for some years now brazil has not been able to produce talents like they used to.days where the likes of giovani Elber who played along side greats like roque santa cruz, pizzaro,stefan Efenberg of bayan munich couldn even get a national team invitation or even juninho pernanbucano who where barely giving attention.neymer has nothing unique that robinho couldnt even do better then cause robinho is his closest comparison.Epl is a physical league which demands equal defensive responsibility from forwards and much for his technique robinho found it difficult to maintain consistency.thats same league Hazard is playing in and for a team who are no better than stoke city.do you know the sort of difficult football chelsea play? I have alot i want to break down but dont want to say too much.but still let me drop one.close control is also a rare talent few players have and neymer isnt even one of them.anyone who picks neymer over hazard knows nothing about football.neymer should be proving himself against coutinho.

troy20:
unless you started following football 5years ago, neymer wouldnt make the bench of brasil senior national team of last ten years.he is living up a hype just as david becham was for England.you dont rate players who play on hype with same measure.the brazilian national team is a dying team.for some years now brazil has not been able to produce talents like they used to.days where the likes of giovani Elber who played along side greats like roque santa cruz, pizzaro,stefan Efenberg of bayan munich couldn even get a national team invitation or even juninho pernanbucano who where barely giving attention.neymer has nothing unique that robinho couldnt even do better then cause robinho is his closest comparison.Epl is a physical league which demands equal defensive responsibility from forwards and much for his technique robinho found it difficult to maintain consistency.thats same league Hazard is playing in and for a team who are no better than stoke city.do you know the sort of difficult football chelsea play? I have alot i want to break down but dont want to say too much.but still let me drop one.close control is also a rare talent few players have and neymer isnt even one of them.anyone who picks neymer over hazard knows nothing about football.neymer should be proving himself against coutinho.

u can't compare neymar and robinho dats an insult d kid was a legend in Santos bested only by Pele he thoroughly conquered south american version if champions league he even scored 4 goals in a final wen robinho left Santos he was just a prospect neymar is a great if u take out c Ronaldo and messi dis yr neymar would be world best and he can still win it or come second

troy20:
unless you started following football 5years ago, neymer wouldnt make the bench of brasil senior national team of last ten years.he is living up a hype just as david becham was for England.you dont rate players who play on hype with same measure.the brazilian national team is a dying team.for some years now brazil has not been able to produce talents like they used to.days where the likes of giovani Elber who played along side greats like roque santa cruz, pizzaro,stefan Efenberg of bayan munich couldn even get a national team invitation or even juninho pernanbucano who where barely giving attention.neymer has nothing unique that robinho couldnt even do better then cause robinho is his closest comparison.Epl is a physical league which demands equal defensive responsibility from forwards and much for his technique robinho found it difficult to maintain consistency.thats same league Hazard is playing in and for a team who are no better than stoke city.do you know the sort of difficult football chelsea play? I have alot i want to break down but dont want to say too much.but still let me drop one.close control is also a rare talent few players have and neymer isnt even one of them.anyone who picks neymer over hazard knows nothing about football.neymer should be proving himself against coutinho.

elber was invited he flopped wen Ronaldo was injured they invited him and jardel
all of barca s fowards have deir selfish moments how does messi beat 4 players alone and score. same with Suarez against juve he had to team mates on d right but tried to beat Buffon on his near side.
leave going to stadium matter if I was in Spain I'll prolly live close to nou camp
u can't compare neymar and robinho dats an insult d kid was a legend in Santos bested only by Pele he thoroughly conquered south american version of champions league he even scored 4 goals in a final wen robinho left Santos he was just a prospect neymar is a great if u take out c Ronaldo and messi dis yr neymar would be world best and he can still win it or come second.

epl fans thinks football is all abt power that y ur clubs get their ass whoop in European competition and those tap-in, it takes a lot of positional
sense to score them... messi has played with alot of top strikers(Henry,Ibrahimovic) bt none came close to the figure neymar got dis season and sharing the golden boot in ucl with the people who has collected it between them self the last 7 times...give the kid a brake....am sure nobody would be surprise if neymar is among the top 3 balloon dor nominees..well,except bad belle(hazard fans)

binhozie:
elber was invited he flopped wen Ronaldo was injured they invited him and jardel
all of barca s fowards have deir selfish moments how does messi beat 4 players alone and score. same with Suarez against juve he had to team mates on d right but tried to beat Buffon on his near side.
leave going to stadium matter if I was in Spain I'll prolly live close to nou camp
u can't compare neymar and robinho dats an insult d kid was a legend in Santos bested only by Pele he thoroughly conquered south american version of champions league he even scored 4 goals in a final wen robinho left Santos he was just a prospect neymar is a great if u take out c Ronaldo and messi dis yr neymar would be world best and he can still win it or come second.

giovani elber and mario jardel where topping goal charts in germerny and portugal but they werent giving much chance.i was describing how difficult it is to get into that team then.if you realy watch football you will know when a player is living on a hype.the three titles this season is owed to messi's uniqueness.neymer is just an opportunist feeding off the attention on messi and the talent of the technical style of the barca team.he is a very lucky footballer.a few years back players like him from brazil where playing their club football in ukraine.all the hype and whenever i watch him its just like football generally dropped compared to some years back.did you watch robinho's years in santos and the hype that brought him to madrid of all places? Please dont even quote pele.if he wins ballon de 'or then football has dropped indeed

hensben:
he is not the creator in brazil bro, i do watch most brazil games(both friendly and competition). neymar can't even do jack in mou formation considering he goes to the ground a lot and you know epl and their rugby style of play and epl ref hardly blow whistle for foul mostly, when they already mark a player as diver.

bro y do u tink mourinho loves athletico Madrid players dey r d best in rugby and pepe d world best rugby player is still in Madrid but guess wat d kid can't stop scoring against dem he goes to ground dust himself up and still finds his way to ur net he l be a hit anywhere Kane is not physical now or sterling self

troy20:
giovani elber and mario jardel where topping goal charts in germerny and portugal but they werent giving much chance.i was describing how difficult it is to get into that team then.if you realy watch football you will know when a player is living on a hype.the three titles this season is owed to messi's uniqueness.neymer is just an opportunist feeding off the attention on messi and the talent of the technical style of the barca team.he is a very lucky footballer.a few years back players like him from brazil where playing their club football in ukraine.all the hype and whenever i watch him its just like football generally dropped compared to some years back.did you watch robinho's years in santos and the hype that brought him to madrid of all places? Please dont even quote pele.if he wins ballon de 'or then football has dropped indeed

Elber and jardel failed because they couldn't play football the Brazilian way dis guys were foxes in d box albeit prolific but they were not d traditional Brazil number nine and dey were to replace a certain ronaldo De Lima when he was injured a huge responcibility I would say. maybe football has dropped I dont know but d elegance of zidane figo rivaldo ronaldo r.Carlos might not be there any more but u can't deny that the stats dis current players have d olden days players would never have gotten it in today's football. some one like zidane had drab games he won't mark just be strolling but wen its a big occasion he'll shine his boot and perform always. its more of a team sport now every body puts in an effort
I am not sure u knew neymar in Santos robinho left as some one people believed would grow up to be a star neymar led Santos to league and cop a libeterodes scoring goals left right and center he was d best player in all the south American leagues for 2 yrs before he came to Europe where as Madrid signed robinho d way dey signed odeengaard now.
Your point is valid a player playing with messi could grab so many opportunities and look better than he actually is logically but why didn't ibrahimovic henry hleb villa Sanchez take dis opportunities as much as neymar is doing ? He must be a very talented opportunist den if u look at the list of players I just mentioned you will know y neymar is great

binhozie:
bro y do u tink mourinho loves athletico Madrid players dey r d best in rugby and pepe d world best rugby player is still in Madrid but guess wat d kid can't stop scoring against dem he goes to ground dust himself up and still finds his way to ur net he l be a hit anywhere Kane is not physical now or sterling self

only atletico play that way in la liga unlike in epl, watch the full game, he scored tap in that game after missing chances, he did nothing special..watch his play overall.

hensben:
only atletico play that way in la liga unlike in epl, watch the full game, he scored tap in that game after missing chances, he did nothing special..watch his play overall.

Bro dey are d most physical team in the world neymar has scored athletico madrid 3 or 4 times now

hensben:
only atletico play that way in la liga unlike in epl, watch the full game, he scored tap in that game after missing chances, he did nothing special..watch his play overall.

Bro dey are d most physical team in the world neymar has scored athletico madrid 3 or 4 times now he even scored 2 in one match

Neymar is way better than hazard only an ignorant epl fan would argue otherwise

binhozie:
Elber and jardel failed because they couldn't play football the Brazilian way dis guys were foxes in d box albeit prolific but they were not d traditional Brazil number nine and dey were to replace a certain ronaldo De Lima when he was injured a huge responcibility I would say. maybe football has dropped I dont know but d elegance of zidane figo rivaldo ronaldo r.Carlos might not be there any more but u can't deny that the stats dis current players have d olden days players would never have gotten it in today's football. some one like zidane had drab games he won't mark just be strolling but wen its a big occasion he'll shine his boot and perform always. its more of a team sport now every body puts in an effort
I am not sure u knew neymar in Santos robinho left as some one people believed would grow up to be a star neymar led Santos to league and cop a libeterodes scoring goals left right and center he was d best player in all the south American leagues for 2 yrs before he came to Europe where as Madrid signed robinho d way dey signed odeengaard now.
Your point is valid a player playing with messi could grab so many opportunities and look better than he actually is logically but why didn't ibrahimovic henry hleb villa Sanchez take dis opportunities as much as neymar is doing ? He must be a very talented opportunist den if u look at the list of players I just mentioned you will know y neymar is great

the brazilian seria A cant compare to europian football.robinho was also the most influential player in santos.back to neyma, players who play on hype(1) usually try to play up to that hype (2) since they live on a hype, every effort they make get overwhelming receptions.e.g david backham was a good free kick taker but you can never compare his free kicks to juninho pananbuccano.but david becham had as much as documentaries and books made for his free kicks.hazard can only be compared to the likes of messi as it is.take out messi and see how barca struggles.harzad just need to play in barca for two seasons to be all rounded,on same level with messi and carry that team like messi does.even the resent most valueble player ratings placed hazard at second and neymer fourth which is a very good position for him even please list the qualities neymer has that robinho doesnt have.

I hope this troy20 won't commit suicide if Neymar gets on the podium in January

A player that has been the joint highest goal scorer in UCL, 3rd highest goal scorer in Worldcup, and 2nd highest goal scorer in Confed cup (behind torres who scored all his goals against Tahiti) an overhyped player? Are your brain cells in comedy mood?

Yea.... he is an opportunists because he plays with Messi. ...... We also heard this excuse about Messi been an opportunist because he played with Xavi and Iniesta.....
Next please. ..

homesteady:
I hope this troy20 won't commit suicide if Neymar gets on the podium in January

A player that has been the joint highest goal scorer in UCL, 3rd highest goal scorer in Worldcup, and 2nd highest goal scorer in Confed cup (behind torres who scored all his goals against Tahiti) an overhyped player? Are your brain cells in comedy mood?

Yea.... he is an opportunists because he plays with Messi. ...... We also heard this excuse about Messi been an opportunist because he played with Xavi and Iniesta.....
Next please. ..

when you know your way around football say in the next 10years i might spare you time or a well written comment.you probably picked interest in football a year or two ago.so you watch champions league finals, a handfull of el classicos and some big matches, then maybe browse through some stats for now its not bad for your level of exposure.and if i may add messi's talent was obviously unique right from time.no one ever reffered to him as an opportunist.

troy20:
.harzad just need to play in barca for two seasons to be all rounded,on same level with messi and carry that team like messi does.even the resent most valueble player ratings placed hazard at second and neymer fourth which is a very good position for him even please list the qualities neymer has that robinho doesnt have.

Same level with Messi? Like seriously? Mr man are you kidding me?
Your further cemented your clownish stance by referring to that list - A list that puts Hazard above Cr7 and Neymar? the both of them are the most marketable players in the world for petes sake! Don't you know any club can recoup almost half the amount they spent on buying the both of them from Jersey sales?
Besides Hazard just signed a new contract!

homesteady:
Same level with Messi? Like seriously? Mr man are you kidding me?
Your further cemented your clownish stance by referring to that list - A list that puts Hazard above Cr7 and Neymar? the both of them are the most marketable players in the world for petes sake! Don't you know any club can recoup almost half the amount they spent on buying the both of them from Jersey sales?
Besides Hazard just signed a new contract!

recoup what from jersey sales. Oh God what made you think a club can earn back a players transfer fee on their jersey sales,when those players are equally earning huge wages over the course of their contract.the club kit sponsor will earn nearly 50percent of every jersey sold.the player too gets some percentage, the club sponsor as well gets its on percentage. I suggest you find some good articles on jersey sales and how much revenue clubs make from them.

People funny sha...Messi and suarez create opportunities and Neymar simply taps them in and suddenly he's one of the best in the world? hmmm.

troy20:
when you know your way around football say in the next 10years i might spare you time or a well written comment.you probably picked interest in football a year or two ago.so you watch champions league finals, a handfull of el classicos and some big matches, then maybe browse through some stats for now its not bad for your level of exposure.and if i may add messi's talent was obviously unique right from time.no one ever reffered to him as an opportunist.

Yeaa.... I've come across your type several times - When the person silliness is exposed, he now starts grasping at straws by bringing irrelevant things like - You just started watching football yesterday, you watch football with sentiment (Hensben favourite line) and some really silly things!
You are chatting with an anonymous person in a faceless forum and you are already concluding that the person started watching football yesterday does it make any sense?
Like I said earlier, I've come across your type several times, so such level of daftness doesn't surprise me anymore!

Stop trying to deny whats popular knowledge! many people were saying that Messi was successful because of Xavi and Iniesta!

UfuomaUN:
People funny sha...Messi and suarez create opportunities and Neymar simply taps them in and suddenly he's one of the best in the world? hmmm.

Tap in yet Neymar has 6 assists in the CL past 2 seasons while Hazard has 3

troy20:
recoup what from jersey sales. Oh God what made you think a club can earn back a players transfer fee on their jersey sales,when those players are equally earning huge wages over the course of their contract.the club kit sponsor will earn nearly 50percent of every jersey sold.the player too gets some percentage, the club sponsor as well gets its on percentage. I suggest you find some good articles on jersey sales and how much revenue clubs make from them.

Do you have a problem with comprehension?
I said the club can recoup almost half!
Mr I too know, who doesn't know about how the jersey sales fund are shared? that's why I said they can recoup half! Their huge salaries does not change the fact that they had recouped half!
Cr7 has sold more than a million jerseys for madrid.
James Rodriguez that was just a hit during the world cup - His jerseys sale was at an all time high, talkless of popular stars like Cr7 and Neymar

Neymar joor...abeg barca fans or any admin shld add me to dis nairaland group via whatsapp 08187301049

FT Wales 1-0 Belgium.Gareth Bale with the goal for Wales and Eden hazard doing next to nothing in the game.Yet there are people who think that Hazard is top 5 in the world.Gareth Frank Bale IS better than Hazard.

Krasid:
FT Wales 1-0 Belgium.Gareth Bale with the goal for Wales and Eden hazard doing next to nothing in the game.Yet there are people who think that Hazard is top 5 in the world.Gareth Frank Bale IS better than Hazard.

Hensben will soon tell you that Wales is a better football nation than Belgium

homesteady:
Hensben will soon tell you that Wales is a better football nation than Belgium

how does one match prove anything, where was bale for madrid throughout the season.huh hazard played every game for chelsea, he was the driving force and you expect him to still be on fire till now, even as that he played well.bale got a tap-in goal suddenly he is better than hazard.he is not robot mr....your sentiment against hazard is appalling.

Krasid:
FT Wales 1-0 Belgium.Gareth Bale with the goal for Wales and Eden hazard doing next to nothing in the game.Yet there are people who think that Hazard is top 5 in the world.Gareth Frank Bale IS better than Hazard.

So because Belgium lost to Wales Bale has suddenly become better than Hazard. rubbish

Sadly most people don't appreciate football anymore. they only look at stats and currently stats do not reflect every aspect of a players game. We think the best footballer is the one who delivers the most assists in a season. We fail to realise that football revolves beyond assists and goals. Some one has to string the passes together. Someone has to create the defence splitting pass. Someone has to stretch the defence with his dribbling or runs for another to have the chances to assist or score. This season Neymar scored lots of goals not because he's been exceptional but simply because he plays in front of very good players. Most times he finishes off fine moves created by suarez, Messi, iniesta and Raki. I've hardly seen really brilliant goals from him except maybe the gaol against PSG in the group stage or the hus opener in he el classico first leg. He doses his role as a finisher really well and deserves the applaud. But we have to admit his role in the team is a relatively easier one. There's no way you can compare his contribution to suarez or hazards contribution in their respective teams. Those players are more than just strikers they distrupt defences through their brilliant play for themselves to score or others to score (esp in hazards case). Saying Neymar is better this season than Hazard is insulting his contribution to Chelsea's success this season given how expertly he performs in his role. Even Neymar struggles in his relatively easier role at barca. I'm a neutral. I support Die Roten but sometimes Neymar misses annoy me. I know lots of other players that would perform better in Neymar's role last season. I know lots of other players with lower goals but better conversion rates. Aguero in Neymar's role would deliver better than Neymar based on what we've seen over time. But since Neymar scored more van we now say Neymar is better? Rubbish. Please let's be realistic football involves a lot more than just finishing off chances. The reason Messi has been better than Cr7 this season isn't because of goals (cr7 had more) but because Messi has always made a difference in every game whether he scored or not. Even in the UCL final without scoring a goal Messi was comfortably Barca's second best player that might in my eyes. His angle pass to Alba stretched the defence so that iniesta could exploit the space to find Rakitic on marked. Players who make a difference consistently should be award more a claim than those who finish off others chances. Hazard has done better than Neymar in that respect. Even sports pundits(most) have put Hazard ahead for a reason. I wonder why we're still having this argument.