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Krasid:
Ronaldo was injured in that WC.Hazard ticks all the boxes of an overrated winger.

excuse!!! but you couldn't see that of hazard that he played world cup with injury as well huh...the problem with you guys is that you watch football with sentiment..i'm a barca fan in la liga then chelsea fan in epl but i'm not stupid not to know barca offensive play and messi factor favors neymar unlike hazard who is to do what messi does for barca(i.e, been the driving force of their respective team)...hazard was involve in almost all chelsea goals this season aside corner kick same with messi for barca but messi is messi reason he still had many goals but still 17 goals from left midfielder(LMF) is not that bad.

Neymar is simply '100% Jesus'. Who is Hazard, we don't know him here in Spain.

hensben:
only messi carry his teams(barca n argentina) because he play-make, he is the driving force, we saw his magic at WC, he scored solo goals when the team was struggling...cr7 is a flop for portugal(after been grouped with the likes of luxemburg, israel they couldn't qualifer directly except through play-off....neymar is not carrying brazil and he can never carry them in his career, brazil is brazil, i.e, they can win without him, dont give me that germany mauling as an example because even if neymar played that day it wouldn't change anything, brazil have been poor right from their first match, they were been lucky and considering they are the host, ref helped them as well. bale is trying for wales. hazard is a selfless player, you hardly see him in the 18-yard box due to he falls deep to create for the team, he is not messi who can do both at same time..to me, no difference between wales n belgium because both haven't won a trophy since my existence. wales have players too who are very 'dugged' and competitive due to most of them play in epl(competitive and 'dugged' league). haba! see ur logic, so anybody that score tap-in carry his team according to you..only messi qualify to this ur logic because he play-make, he is the driving force, he does magic when his team mate are down.

Haaa! In football, carrying your team popularly means making them to win games - Suarez was carrying liverpool, Bale was carrying Tottenham, kane has also been carrying Tottenham! You are trying to change the meaning to suite your argument! This is the 1st season that Messi has been used as a real playmaker and also a goalscorer, so are you trying to say before this season, no player has been said to carry his team?

Was ronaldo not there with his hatricks when it mattered the most against Sweden?

Neymar is not brazil leader? many of their players have said it sef, so your opinion doesn't count! Why do you think he was made the captain?

Please stop lying, how will a winger not always be in the 18 box? Hazard doesn't have a good pass range like Fabregas, so how does he have those many chances created if he wasn't in the box? He is not a old fashioned winger like Young who prefers to cross rather than to enter the box!

maxwell530:
what about his goal against real madrid,juventus,man city and even psg? He scored those goals when the team need him most.

Sigh! Do you also expect me to tell you that Neymar scored important goals against bayern Munich, PSG, Juventus, Atletico Madrid and some important la liga goals?

maxwell530:
the most biased fan is here again,I know u will even say casilas is better than neur.

Bale won both PFA awards(POTY and YPOTY) playing for Tottenham, almost single-handedly taking them to the UCL and it was clear who the best player was at that time.He came to Madrid and in his 1st season was instrumental in Madrid winning the UCL and CDR(he followed that up by winning the USC and CWC).One bad season changes nothing.Hazard's hype this season was due to CFC's collective effort leading to their EPL triumph.He won the PFA POTY award against his competitor the "mighty" H.Kane, he also lost the PFA YPOTY in which he was nominated to the same player.Imagine hazard playing for a team like tottenham, his dribbles and chances created would have been as useless as the 'P' in Psychology.He would probably dribble his team out of a top ten finish.Bale has qualified his team Wales to their first major tournament in many years.

Krasid:
Bale won both PFA awards(POTY and YPOTY) playing for Tottenham, almost single-handedly taking them to the UCL and it was clear who the best player was at that time.He came to Madrid and in his 1st season was instrumental in Madrid winning the UCL and CDR(he followed that up by winning the USC and CWC).One bad season changes nothing.Hazard's hype this season was due to CFC's collective effort leading to their EPL triumph.He won the PFA POTY award against his competitor the "mighty" H.Kane, he also lost the PFA YPOTY in which he was nominated to the same player.Imagine hazard playing for a team like tottenham, his dribbles and chances created would have been as useless as the 'P' in Psychology.He would probably dribble his team out of a top ten finish.Bale has qualified his team Wales to their first major tournament in many years.

Hensben. ......

Krasid:
Bale won both PFA awards(POTY and YPOTY) playing for Tottenham, almost single-handedly taking them to the UCL and it was clear who the best player was at that time.He came to Madrid and in his 1st season was instrumental in Madrid winning the UCL and CDR(he followed that up by winning the USC and CWC).One bad season changes nothing.Hazard's hype this season was due to CFC's collective effort leading to their EPL triumph.He won the PFA POTY award against his competitor the "mighty" H.Kane, he also lost the PFA YPOTY in which he was nominated to the same player.Imagine hazard playing for a team like tottenham, his dribbles and chances created would have been as useless as the 'P' in Psychology.He would probably dribble his team out of a top ten finish.Bale has qualified his team Wales to their first major tournament in many years.

pls im a novice here,has wales qualified for euros??nd hw many match winning performances did hv give for wales in d qualification..ive not really been watching wales

Krasid:
Bale won both PFA awards(POTY and YPOTY) playing for Tottenham, almost single-handedly taking them to the UCL and it was clear who the best player was at that time.He came to Madrid and in his 1st season was instrumental in Madrid winning the UCL and CDR(he followed that up by winning the USC and CWC).One bad season changes nothing.Hazard's hype this season was due to CFC's collective effort leading to their EPL triumph.He won the PFA POTY award against his competitor the "mighty" H.Kane, he also lost the PFA YPOTY in which he was nominated to the same player.Imagine hazard playing for a team like tottenham, his dribbles and chances created would have been as useless as the 'P' in Psychology.He would probably dribble his team out of a top ten finish.Bale has qualified his team Wales to their first major tournament in many years.

u don't know what u are saying,when did he qualified his team,is it because of a win over belgium?has the qualification matches finished?u are talking poo.

dubylhover:
pls im a novice here,has wales qualified for euros??nd hw many match winning performances did hv give for wales in d qualification..ive not really been watching wales

don't mind him jare,I have known him for a long time now,he's so sentimental.if madrid complete the signing of hazard in this coming transfer window then u will hear another story from him.his mentality is that all madrid players are world best.

maxwell530:
It is obvious that messi/ronaldo took football to another dimension that makes most fans think football is all about goals.how many goals did zidane got when he won the best player award?if goal scoring is the main criteria for choosing world best player then zidane wouldn't have make the top 20 and more so player like thierry henry wouldve won it like twice.

We are in 2015, not 2005.When will people understand this fact.With all due respect to Zidane who is one of my favourite players and one of the greatest ever, he would have probably been a modern day Iniesta(one of the players who got so close to winning the ballon d'or but never did) if he was playing in the Messi-CR era.Hazard should step up his game by adding goals and assists or go back to 2005 where his take-ons and chances created would be much appreciated.

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maxwell530:
don't mind him jare,I have known him for a long time now,he's so sentimental.if madrid complete the signing of hazard in this coming transfer window then u will hear another story from him.his mentality is that all madrid players are world best.

lol...madridsta..make bale just leave that madrid..he wud always b in d shadow of cr7

homesteady:
Haaa! In football, carrying your team popularly means making them to win games - Suarez was carrying liverpool, Bale was carrying Tottenham, kane has also been carrying Tottenham! You are trying to change the meaning to suite your argument! This is the 1st season that Messi has been used as a real playmaker and also a goalscorer, so are you trying to say before this season, no player has been said to carry his team?

Was ronaldo not there with his hatricks when it mattered the most against Sweden?

Neymar is not brazil leader? many of their players have said it sef, so your opinion doesn't count! Why do you think he was made the captain?

Please stop lying, how will a winger not always be in the 18 box? Hazard doesn't have a good pass range like Fabregas, so how does he have those many chances created if he wasn't in the box? He is not a old fashioned winger like Young who prefers to cross rather than to enter the box!

who is talking about crosses, he is the driving force for chelsea yet he still scored 17 goals (2nd highest goal scorer in the team)..wearing captain arm ban this days is all about marketing so nothing new unlike those days were the most senior players wore it same reason they gave hazard too in absence of kompany. hazard is involve in almost all chelsea goals this season aside corner kicks..here are the highlights;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-uEHCVyxzk
yeah he do goes to the 18 yard box with his drive unlike neymar who just wait there.

2014 / 2015

TEAM COMP GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC
Barcelona Esp Cup 9 0 11 0 29 18 9 22 1 0
Barcelona La Liga 29 4 22 7 95 45 33 96 6 0
Brazil Int 8 1 8 2 33 13 11 41 1 0
Brazil WC 5 0 4 1 18 13 8 18 1 0
Barcelona UCL 12 0 10 0 39 22 16 38 1 0
Season Totals 63 5 55 10 214

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This season in 63 games Neymar scored 55 goals and got 10 assists.

Hazard had 20 goals, 13 assists In 55 games.

They say Hazard is a team player. Why then does he have 13 assists compared to Neymar 'the selfish one' who has 10 assists.

Neymar WINS!

Oh and before I forget Neymar didn't score via Pk this season. Hazard scored 8 goals from the penalty spot. (Message to Chelsea fans who just hate Barca for winning treble again)

homesteady:
Hensben. ......

that guy is just blabbing..hazard did same thing with lille fc., he won trophies with them unlike bale.

Go to Google, type Neymar vs Hazard and tell me whether each site will not conclude that Hazard is better. Only Chelsea enemies conclude that Neymar is better on this discussion

Group B Teams P W D L F A +/-Pts Wales 6 4 2 0 8 2 6 14 Belgium 6 3 2 1 13 2 11 11 Israel 6 3 0 3 10 9 1 9 Cyprus 6 3 0 3 12 11 1 9 Bosnia and Herzegovina 6 2 2 2 8 7 1 8 Andorra 6 0 0 6 3 23 -20 0

hensben:
that guy is just blabbing..hazard did same thing with lille fc., he won trophies with them unlike bale.

Nor go hell fire because of hazard. Your lie carry bomb O! Lille only finished 3rd in the league that season. Mention the cups now. #Peoplealwayslie

maxwell530:
u said he's carrying them singlehandedly and that's why I said where is d wales team when belgium was in world cup,u just said he's better than hazard bcause he scored did u also know that hazard scored in their(belgium) friendly match last week.

He scored a PENALTY in a FRIENDLY .Greatest player of all time.

ArrowAssassin:
2014 / 2015

TEAM COMP GS SB G A SH SG FC FS YC RC
Barcelona Esp Cup 9 0 11 0 29 18 9 22 1 0
Barcelona La Liga 29 4 22 7 95 45 33 96 6 0
Brazil Int 8 1 8 2 33 13 11 41 1 0
Brazil WC 5 0 4 1 18 13 8 18 1 0
Barcelona UCL 12 0 10 0 39 22 16 38 1 0
Season Totals 63 5 55 10 214

***
This season in 63 games Neymar scored 55 goals and got 10 assists.

Hazard had 20 goals, 13 assists In 55 games.

They say Hazard is a team player. Why then does he have 13 assists compared to Neymar 'the selfish one' who has 10 assists.

Neymar WINS!

Oh and before I forget Neymar didn't score via Pk this season. Hazard scored 8 goals from the penalty spot. (Message to Chelsea fans who just hate Barca for winning treble again)

with your logic iniesta is average so far in his career cos he doesnt have the stats, he is suppose to be scoring since he is AMF...oga it depend on team set up..hazard is the driving force for chelsea, creativity is different from assist.

ArrowAssassin:
Nor go hell fire because of hazard. Your lie carry bomb O! Lille only finished 3rd in the league that season. Mention the cups now. #Peoplealwayslie

hazard had 2 fantastic season for lille(2010-2011 and 2011-2012)....2010-2011 lille won double https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_Lille_OSC_season

sentiment wouldn't allow you guys to know fact about the game.

hensben:
with your logic iniesta is average so far in his career cos he doesnt have the stats, he is suppose to be scoring since he is AMF...oga it depend on team set up..hazard is the driving force for chelsea, creativity is different from assist.

Iniesta has the assists and pass completion records. He also covers an average of 12.8km each game which means he is everywhere from the defensive pivot to the frontline. Iniesta had about six assists in the UCL and that has been an unbroken record. Unlike Hazard Iniesta is a midfielder.

maxwell530:
don't mind him jare,I have known him for a long time now,he's so sentimental.if madrid complete the signing of hazard in this coming transfer window then u will hear another story from him.his mentality is that all madrid players are world best.

Then you would know that I actually rate Hazard as a top 10 player in the world currently.I wouldn't go as far as saying he is the closest thing to Messi, or that he is better than Neymar or Bale because it is not true.

ArrowAssassin:
Iniesta has the assists and pass completion records. He also covers an average of 12.8km each game which means he is everywhere from the defensive pivot to the frontline. Iniesta had about six assists in the UCL and that has been an unbroken record. Unlike Hazard Iniesta is a midfielder.

iniesta had the assist, like how many assist in all competition? hazard has the stat and cover every area starting from midfield to attack and also, assist azpilicueta in defense as well considering he is LMF in 4-2-3-1 formation unlike neymar who is LWF in 4-3-3 formation with messi the driving force of the team.

Krasid:
Then you would know that I actually rate Hazard as a top 10 player in the world currently.I wouldn't go as far as saying he is the closest thing to Messi, or that he is better than Neymar or Bale because it is not true.

this season hazard is top 3 or 4 so yeah he is closest to messi n cr7.. bale can't be top 9 this season. for you to say hazard is not better than bale this season make me question your conscience.

hensben:
this season hazard is top 3 or 4 so yeah he is closest to messi n cr7.. bale can't be top 9 this season.

Sorry, but i do not rate a player who can not take his team past the UCL R16 as top 5 in the world.

Krasid:
Sorry, but i do not rate a player who can not take his team past the UCL R16 as top 5 in the world.

but you can rate neymar who tap-in messi and suarez's effort...messi took barca to treble, you can rate cr7 who went trophy-less and was beating by aged juve after scoring zillion goals(another tap-in king who is obsess with messi,i.e, as far as cr7 score the team can go to hell) but a certain hazard who won double with his team can't be rated, when costa was injured, fabregas was tired this guy called hazard was there throughout the season. its not his fault that chelsea defence was poor on set piece, he gave the lead and mou defensive tactic didn't help matter against psg.

My UCL top eleven. Since Barca won UCL it's going to be a 4-3-3.

Neymar-Messi-Ronaldo

Pirlo-Rakitic-James

Alaba-Chiellini-Boateng-Alves


Hazard won't even be on the bench.

hensben:
but you can rate neymar who tap-in messi and suarez's effort...messi took barca to treble, you can rate cr7 who went trophy-less and was beating by aged juve after scoring zillion goals(another tap-in king who is obsess with messi,i.e, as far as cr7 score the team can go to hell) but a certain hazard who won double with his team can't be rated, when costa was injured, fabregas was tired this guy called hazard was there throughout the season. its not his fault that chelsea defence was poor on set piece, he gave the lead and mou defensive tactic didn't help matter against psg.

Try leaving Ronaldo out of your Neymar-Hazard debate.It will do hazard no good at all.

Krasid:
Try leaving Ronaldo out of your Neymar-Hazard debate.It will do hazard no good at all.

i'm just telling you what's on ground and if you understand my comment i mentioned messi to pass cr7 message.

ArrowAssassin:
My UCL top eleven. Since Barca won UCL it's going to be a 4-3-3.

Neymar-Messi-Ronaldo

Pirlo-Rakitic-James

Alaba-Chiellini-Boateng-Alves


Hazard won't even be on the bench.

who know you? btw, they use all competition so ur opinion doesn't count.

hazard vs wales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apdaWmswP7w
ps; it's not his fault one of belgian defender gifted bale tap-in.