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Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by Centurion13(op): 10:14pm On Jun 14, 2015
The ICC has issued an arrest warrant on President Omar al-Bashir, the SA government has insisted on not allowing him to leave SA until the hearing on his arrest is concluded on Monday.

What is your take on this ? Will it be proper for an African President to be arrested while attending an AU meeting on Africa soil?

Opinions please
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by Shymm3x: 10:20pm On Jun 14, 2015
Waste of time.

They should arrest Obama, Tony Blair, both George Bush Sr and Jr., Donald Rumsfeld, Hilary Clinton, Dick Cheney et al. undecided
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by criuze(m): 10:21pm On Jun 14, 2015
A. U has finally collapsed

So that stupid A U can not protect her leader


nothing is left to loose
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by olawalefelix: 10:51pm On Jun 14, 2015
I dnt tnk dat. Man is anywhere around south Africa,his back to his cointry dis morning b4 d news of his arrest was broadcast.
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by wordcat(m): 10:57pm On Jun 14, 2015
I call AU summit the gathering of phools if they allow this to happen and I will not visit South Africa again in my life if their authorities hands Omar to ICC and I will see Sudan as the weakest country on earth.
Even if Sudanese hate their president, they need not allow this to happen to them


What shall I call this?
International Kidnapping
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by AlfaSeltzer(m): 11:00pm On Jun 14, 2015
Won't happen: diplomatic immunity
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by Nobody: 11:01pm On Jun 14, 2015
It will amount to madness for SA to contemplate on arresting President Omar Al Bashir should the court grant the prayers of the so-called human right crusaders.

SA were signatory to the AU agreement that no sitting Head of State/President should be arrested with respect to ICC's demand. The SA government also assured Al Bashir that nothing will happen to him should he attend the AU summit. The so-called Al Bashir is not in SA for tourism but for "mandatory" AU summit. It amount to madness for a group of people to embarrass the man by asking the court to compel the SA authorities to arrest him. Arresting Omar Al Bashir will mean breaking diplomatic agreement. In fact, it has great consequence on SA.

Anyway, I trust ANC and SA authorities to disregard the ruling of the court irrespective of what it is.

This is a great embarrassment to Africa, SA, Sudan and Albashir.
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by ayox2003: 11:06pm On Jun 14, 2015
The relationship between China and the Sudanese government has intensified efforts by the West to act on time against Al Bashir. Afterall, Kenyatta also has a case with the ICC that's being downplayed.

The SA government, who having experienced a lot of suffering, killings and to the point of tagging Mandela a terrorist by the West should atleast learn from history and let Al Bashir go to his country. At this moment, African leaders should begin to form solid alliances and not dissension by dancing to the tunes of the higher powers.

If Al Bashir is not allowed to leave until he's arrested, then the African Union is no union at all.


Frawzey
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by Caseless: 1:13am On Jun 15, 2015
Jacob Zuma shouldn't allow that to happen. What nonsense...
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by Caseless: 1:20am On Jun 15, 2015
ayox2003:
The relationship between China and the Sudanese government has intensified efforts by the West to act on time against Al Bashir. Afterall, Kenyatta also has a case with the ICC that's being downplayed.

The SA government, who having experienced a lot of suffering, killings and to the point of tagging Mandela a terrorist by the West should atleast learn from history and let Al Bashir go to his country. At this moment, African leaders should begin to form solid alliances and not dissension by dancing to the tunes of the higher powers.

If Al Bashir is not allowed to leave until he's arrested, then the African Union is no union at all.


Frawzey
Thesame AU watched the west while they invaded Libya and killed Ghadaffi. The fire the so called west put up in Libya is still burning and they have not been able to quench it.

The AU still allow the west to have a say despite their show of disrespect by invading libya.

Black people? SMH
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by texanomaly(f): 3:58am On Jun 15, 2015
AlfaSeltzer:
Won't happen: diplomatic immunity
Interesting that you are the only one with any sense on this thread. undecided
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by Shymm3x: 4:45am On Jun 15, 2015
texanomaly:
Interesting that you are the only one with any sense on this thread. undecided
Stark illiterate, does diplomatic immunity cover anyone against Rome Statute?

And isn't South Africa a signatory to the statute?

If they want to arrest him, they can - he has zero cover against it. However, they won't because it will go against bilateral relations and it will create a bad image for South Africa.

STFU next time, illiterate oaf. undecided
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by texanomaly(f): 10:00am On Jun 15, 2015
Shymm3x:
Stark illiterate, does diplomatic immunity cover anyone against Rome Statute?

And isn't South Africa a signatory to the statute?

If they want to arrest him, they can - he has zero cover against it. However, they won't because it will go against bilateral relations and it will create a bad image for South Africa.

STFU next time, illiterate oaf. undecided
First of all, get a dictionary. I read and write quite well. Thank you. Second, a friend made this comment. I agree.


Quote:
"I also don't think Al Bashir can be arrested. He has immunity but because SA is a signatory to the ICC, SA is obligated. The thing is I doubt they have the diplomatic and political will to do so. They wont want to start a precedence."

Third:
South Africa's governing ANC said immunity had been granted to "all (summit) participants as part of the international norms for countries hosting such gathering of the AU or even the United Nations".

I am by no means trying to say Bashir is innocent. I'm simply stating the facts as they are.

Last, but not least, chill out. Stark illiterate? STFU? Illiterate oaf?
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by Shymm3x: 12:15pm On Jun 15, 2015
texanomaly:
First of all, get a dictionary. I read and write quite well. Thank you. Second, a friend made this comment. I agree.


Quote:
"I also don't think Al Bashir can be arrested. He has immunity but because SA is a signatory to the ICC, SA is obligated. The thing is I doubt they have the diplomatic and political will to do so. They wont want to start a precedence."

Third:
South Africa's governing ANC said immunity had been granted to "all (summit) participants as part of the international norms for countries hosting such gathering of the AU or even the United Nations".

I am by no means trying to say Bashir is innocent. I'm simply stating the facts as they are.

Last, but not least, chill out. Stark illiterate? STFU? Illiterate oaf?
You're an illiterate - go check the dictionary for the comprehensive meaning(s) of who an illiterate is, and come back with an educated retort.

I reiterate: can diplomatic immunity anyone against the Rome Statute?

- Does South Africa fall under the jurisdiction of the ICC - YES or NO?

- And if they don't think they can arrest him, why are they in court in the first place?
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by texanomaly(f): 1:31pm On Jun 15, 2015
Shymm3x:
You're an illiterate - go check the dictionary for the comprehensive meaning(s) of who an illiterate is, and come back with an educated retort.

I reiterate: can diplomatic immunity anyone against the Rome Statute?

- Does South Africa fall under the jurisdiction of the ICC - YES or NO?

- And if they don't think they can arrest him, why are they in court in the first place?
I tried to be civilized, while you have been irrationally combative. Good day young man.
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by Shymm3x: 1:47pm On Jun 15, 2015
texanomaly:
I tried to be civilized, while you have been irrationally combative. Good day young man.
Little girl, you don't badge on a thread by making a sweeping statement about how senseless all the posters are, when you're actually the senseless and illiterate one.

What you did was "uncivilised and irrationally combative" (your words), kid.
Re: Proposed Sudanese President Arrest By ICC In South Africa What is Your Take by Centurion13(op): 12:04am On Jun 16, 2015
At last al-Bashir escaped the arrest and that should tell us the unity among AU now a days. His escape is not without the consent of all the participating presidents
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