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Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by ziccoit: 8:27pm On Jun 26, 2015
PvtParts:
Olofo.

Come and arrest me.

Buhari is a Boko.

Just as you bastards said that Jonathan was behind Boko with no single proof .
Unfortunately no one would miss you here by the time you are being dealt with. Take my advice boy.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:34pm On Jun 26, 2015
kle4d:
eeeeeeeee......Na Wetin you dey think since? shocked

Dullado No be my guy Na!


Na that ur post weh the source Na ur head I get issues with.

D3 (d Daura President) no be my guy too but Na President he be now.
So just chill till 2019. grin
Cheers.
All topics and discussions and facts emanated from someone's head...just like Op here...And intelligence is about picking bits to make whole which Op is trying to do here...why not engage him constructively with smart questions or counters if you think he's lyinghuh...
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Noneroone(m): 8:37pm On Jun 26, 2015
PvtParts:
And why was the APC gathering data ?

We are all privy to the fact that the contract for PVCs was given to a company linked to Tinubu.

We are also privy to the fact that the PVCs distribution in the north and SW was done with ethnic considerations in mind.

Your APC and Buhari will end up like the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and Morsi.

I am confident of this knowing fully well that Obama's choices of leaders outside the US always end up in disaster.
you are very correct @ the part in bold.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:39pm On Jun 26, 2015
bakila:
APC faked the DSS attack on their Data centre for symphaty. APC fakes Ogar's make up and unnecessary comment against the party. APC faked the failure of the management or head of DSS or its head to main neutrality of check overzealous action against herhuhhuh??
If you answer this honestly then your privatpart is Will not be fake.
DSS operate in intelligence gathering...which involves picking bits of information to make whole...they work from known to unknown...unfortunately partisanship has blinded our eyes to the pertinent questions they raised because of our political leaning...smh...Any smart or intelligent or patriotic Nigerian should be concerned and worried that our president is afraid of our foremost intelligence agency...Something is fishy bro...I am not an expert though...just asking myself salient questions...Example; they said that every time APC lost election, there was a bomb blast which is true...the ONLY time they won, there was NONE... Doesn't it call for question and concernhuh...Let's ask questions bro...APC is becoming more like a cult than a political party sincerely the way her followers behave...Remember Adolf Hitler...Remember Egypt and her brotherhood...
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Nobody: 8:47pm On Jun 26, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
All topics and discussions and facts emanated from someone's head...just like Op here...And intelligence is about picking bits to make whole which Op is trying to do here...why not engage him constructively with smart questions or counters if you think he's lyinghuh...
The OP was talking based on "what if..."
And the subject of his topic is the type you don't just open your mouth and discuss based on "what if...".
I drew his attention to that and he decided to act childish by using abusive words.
Please follow my comments/quotes/conversation with him before you quote me again. Coz I see you trying to think like him.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by bakila:
Please answer the question I asked. There are very professional as well as very political officers in all sector of defence and law enforcement. If you dont that know mr Onlytruth then you need to read more.
Whynotthetruth:
DSS operate in intelligence gathering...which involves picking bits of information to make whole...they work from known to unknown...unfortunately partisanship has blinded our eyes to the pertinent questions they raised because of our political leaning...smh...Any smart or intelligent or patriotic Nigerian should be concerned and worried that our president is afraid of our foremost intelligence agency...Something is fishy bro...I am not an expert though...just asking myself salient questions...Example; they said that every time APC lost election, there was a bomb blast which is true...the ONLY time they won, there was NONE... Doesn't it call for question and concernhuh...Let's ask questions bro...APC is becoming more like a cult than a political party sincerely the way her followers behave...Remember Adolf Hitler...Remember Egypt and her brotherhood...
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:55pm On Jun 26, 2015
kle4d:
The OP was talking based on "what if..."
And the subject of his topic is the type you don't just open your mouth and discuss based on "what if...".
I drew his attention to that and he decided to act childish by using abusive words.
Please follow my comments/quotes/conversation with him before you quote me again. Coz I see you trying to think like him.
@bolded...Maybe Yes...Maybe No

In the intelligence world..."what if" is the basis of all analysis and it allows for traces, insights, opportunities etc...Or do you think detectives and co use black magic to unravel cases they weren't there at time it happened or crimes planned and executed very well and they are brought to unravel such...they ask questions...they apply what if...and a lead is thus established...

All I am saying is that every citizen should open their minds and should be worried that our president doesn't trust our foremost intelligence agency...it calls for serious questions bro...Although such questions would be drowned by political leaning and claim of sensitive info...
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:59pm On Jun 26, 2015
bakila:
Please answer the question I asked. There are very professional as was a very political officers in all sector of defence and law enforcement. If you that know mr Onlytruth then you need to read more.
Goodnight...
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Nobody: 9:12pm On Jun 26, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
@bolded...Maybe Yes...Maybe No

In the intelligence world..."what if" is the basis of all analysis and it allows for traces, insights, opportunities etc...Or do you think detectives and co use black magic to unravel cases they weren't there at time it happened or crimes planned and executed very well and they are brought to unravel such...they ask questions...they apply what if...and a lead is thus established...

All I am saying is that every citizen should open their minds and should be worried that our president doesn't trust our foremost intelligence agency...it calls for serious questions bro...Although such questions would be drowned by political leaning and claim of sensitive info...
I appreciate the fact that you recognized that "what if...." is applicable in the intelligence community which made me wonder if the OP was trying to carry out an investigation on an assassination attempt on a president he doesn't care about (if u follow my conversation with him). I even asked him to relax coz he is the President now.
If the President doesn't trust a board or an agency, or he smells corruption and feel insecure....he knows exactly what to do and I believe he is doing it. #DSS #NNPC #CBN and more to come. We shouldn't kill ourselves about it.
Personally I'm not a fan of the President or the APC.....but since they are were they are I just have to support them to help Nigeria grow till 2019 when we decide again.
Cheers Bro.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Whynotthetruth(m): 9:25pm On Jun 26, 2015
kle4d:
I appreciate the fact that you recognized that "what if...." is applicable in the intelligence community which made me wonder if the OP was trying to carry out an investigation on an assassination attempt on a president he doesn't care about (if u follow my conversation with him). I even asked him to relax coz he is the President now.
If the President doesn't trust a board or an agency, or he smells corruption and feel insecure....he knows exactly what to do and I believe he is doing it. #DSS #NNPC #CBN and more to come. We shouldn't kill ourselves about it.
Personally I'm not a fan of the President or the APC.....but since they are were they are I just have to support them to help Nigeria grow till 2019 when we decide again.
Cheers Bro.
@bolded is more reason we should rather ask Op smart questions to juggle his psyche than stampeding him to silence...It will also force these supposed leaders to sit up knowing that people are asking the right questions...They simply need our silence for their treachery and sacrificing of the innocents to continue...Remember, the innocents who have fallen victim to this madness all had lofty dreams like you...Check my threads to see one on a budding youth who was cut down after his NYSC there...Truth is if buhari wants to fight corruption in security agencies, DSS will be the last after police and military...Issue with NNPC is more of structural than personnel...Anybody who believes that by mere changing of faces in NNPC things would fall in shape is daydreaming...Again, DSS distrust by buhari calls for lots of concern and questions bro if we hope to achieve our dreams alive...What does he not want them to know anymore?...
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by idu1(m): 9:29pm On Jun 26, 2015
PvtParts:
And why was the APC gathering data ?

We are all privy to the fact that the contract for PVCs was given to a company linked to Tinubu.

We are also privy to the fact that the PVCs distribution in the north and SW was done with ethnic considerations in mind.

Your APC and Buhari will end up like the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and Morsi.

I am confident of this knowing fully well that Obama's choices of leaders outside the US always end up in disaster.
u can see why u need to be admitted in yabalefthuh
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by opiaoku: 9:37pm On Jun 26, 2015
donphilopus:
[s][/s]

Coming from a fool.
quoted by a product of dog's sperm
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Nobody: 9:42pm On Jun 26, 2015
PvtParts:
Have you wondered why Buhari and the APC never made his fake assassination attempt a campaign issue?

The news of Buhari's alleged assanition broke did not last up to a week before the APC went totally silent on it.

Have you ever wondered why the likes of Lair Mohammed suddenly went silent on the issue?
Mehn, this is so true.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Nobody: 9:50pm On Jun 26, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
@bolded is more reason we should rather ask Op smart questions to juggle his psyche than stampeding him to silence...It will also force these supposed leaders to sit up knowing that people are asking the right questions...They simply need our silence for their treachery and sacrificing of the innocents to continue...Remember, the innocents who have fallen victim to this madness all had lofty dreams like you...Check my threads to see one on a budding youth who was cut down after his NYSC there...Truth is if buhari wants to fight corruption in security agencies, DSS will be the last after police and military...Issue with NNPC is more of structural than personnel...Anybody who believes that by mere changing of faces in NNPC things would fall in shape is daydreaming...Again, DSS distrust by buhari calls for lots of concern and questions bro if we hope to achieve our dreams alive...What does he not want them to know anymore?...
That's a big question you have there....of which we both know that no matter how much we insist on getting an answer....we'll never get the truth that is if we ever get a reply.
He is the president and his personal security is his business. Let's leave that to him considering his military background.
#NNPC......we are not strangers in this country and for a personnel/structural change of this kind to happen we all know there must be a "little" of personal interest though we know they (nnpc) are a bunch of corrupt fellows that needs to be changed.
The changing process is were that "little" personal interest directly or indirectly is gonna come out from. If you follow some threads on this #NNPC phase change you'll notice how tribalism is already smoking out.
Let's just hope for the best.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:07pm On Jun 26, 2015
kle4d:
That's a big question you have there....of which we both know that no matter how much we insist on getting an answer....we'll never get the truth that is if we ever get a reply.
He is the president and his personal security is his business. Let's leave that to him considering his military background.
#NNPC......we are not strangers in this country and for a personnel/structural change of this kind to happen we all know there must be a "little" of personal interest though we know they (nnpc) are a bunch of corrupt fellows that needs to be changed.
The changing process is were that "little" personal interest directly or indirectly is gonna come out from. If you follow some threads on this #NNPC phase change you'll notice how tribalism is already smoking out.
Let's just hope for the best.
Yes we must always hope for the best...but tribalism cannot be eschewed from NNPC or any oil stuff because that's injustice... Why?...Before oil boom, we had 50% derivation for groundnut and cocoa(north and SW) while eastern part was more of palm oil...When oil came and groundnut and cocoa died, SAME people that insisted on 50% derivation fund stopped it till 1999/2000 when 13% was allowed...where's justice there?...even with the environmental hazard experienced by these people... When North/SW had 50% was their any hazard?...where's justice bro?...DSS issue isn't about buhari security alone...it is about national security...Remember, lots of fanatics are in APC already and are supporting buhari... so why shouldn't we be afraid?...,why should we keep quiet?...I thank men like Op who have courage to ask questions albeit risky and controversial...Finally, no matter how many people you change in NNPC, the problem will continue till it is balkanised or broken up via deregulation.... thanks
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:13pm On Jun 26, 2015
idu1:
u can see why u need to be admitted in yabalefthuh
He has a point bro...Why not look at the economic and security situation in ALL the countries that USA/Obama has interest in and supported particular peoplehuh... Maybe from Haiti to Syria to Libya to Iraq to Afghanistan etc...how are they faring?...,Let's ask questions bro and quit this excessive partisanship...
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by rusher14: 10:44pm On Jun 26, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
@bolded is more reason we should rather ask Op smart questions to juggle his psyche than stampeding him to silence...It will also force these supposed leaders to sit up knowing that people are asking the right questions...They simply need our silence for their treachery and sacrificing of the innocents to continue...Remember, the innocents who have fallen victim to this madness all had lofty dreams like you...Check my threads to see one on a budding youth who was cut down after his NYSC there...Truth is if buhari wants to fight corruption in security agencies, DSS will be the last after police and military...Issue with NNPC is more of structural than personnel...Anybody who believes that by mere changing of faces in NNPC things would fall in shape is daydreaming...Again, DSS distrust by buhari calls for lots of concern and questions bro if we hope to achieve our dreams alive...What does he not want them to know anymore?...

Just as you have said; unknown to known.

What is your position on the known?

The postion of the DSS was highly compromised such that its spokesperson clearly displayed it in public glare, at least, so it appeared.

Would you be trusting of such a body?

And what if the boko haram/bombing incident was orchestrated by the DSS?

Speculating and making pronouncements based on simple gut feelings is what terrorists are made of.

There's a wave of chest beating and spoiling for violence that many cannot withstand when it occurs.

The internet is a good tool but like may other good things, it can be abused if not used with caution.

People key into philosphies and ideologies that have no grounding and certainly would lead many to perdition.

Nigeria has faced loads of disappointments from her past leaders and it is sad to see people still willing to die for people that wouldn't clip a toenail for them.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by EMANY01(m): 10:50pm On Jun 26, 2015
rottennaija:
Honestly guy, enough of this joke. Don't make claims you cannot substantiate. You are talking about your president, stop insulting him.
Make him stop.I want to see how you do it.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Whynotthetruth(m): 10:53pm On Jun 26, 2015
rusher14:

Just as you have said; unknown to known.

What is your position on the known?

The postion of the DSS was highly compromised such that its spokesperson clearly displayed it in public glare, at least, so it appeared.

Would you be trusting of such a body?

And what if the boko haram/bombing incident was orchestrated by the DSS?

Speculating and making pronouncements based on simple gut feelings is what terrorists are made of.

There's a wave of chest beating and spoiling for violence that many cannot withstand when it occurs.

The internet is a good tool but like may other good things, it can be abused if not used with caution.

People key into philosphies and ideologies that have no grounding and certainly would lead many to perdition.

Nigeria has faced loads of disappointments from her past leaders and it is sad to see people still willing to die for people that wouldn't clip a toenail for them.
All I can tell you is that buhari distrust for our national intelligence agency should call for serious concern from all...thanks
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by EMANY01(m): 10:58pm On Jun 26, 2015
PvtParts:
And why was the APC gathering data ?

We are all privy to the fact that the contract for PVCs was given to a company linked to Tinubu.

We are also privy to the fact that the PVCs distribution in the north and SW was done with ethnic considerations in mind.

Your APC and Buhari will end up like the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and Morsi.

I am confident of this knowing fully well that Obama's choices of leaders outside the US always end up in disaster.
The fools forget that the last four years and more , the DSS had been responsible for buharis security as is his right as a former head of state only for hime to shove them out.
He will fall out before 2019 as you said , obama's choices end up failing/ending miserably.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by bakila: 11:41pm On Jun 26, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
Goodnight...
Better since you dont know WATERGATE and its lessons.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by dustmalik(m): 11:44pm On Jun 26, 2015
EMANY01:
The fools forget that the last four years and more , the DSS had been responsible for buharis security as is his right as a former head of state only for hime to shove them out.
He will fall out before 2019 as you said , obama's choices end up failing/ending miserably.
This is your personal wish and those of your cohorts who think alike. Same way you swore he would never be president, but he is today.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by fr3do(m): 2:06am On Jun 27, 2015
PvtParts:
And have you asked why the commander in chief does not trust the DSS which happens to be the highest intelligence gathering and security outfit ?
The DSS would not bend to his ways.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Truckpusher(m): 2:38am On Jun 27, 2015
PvtParts:
The sectional boko bigot does not trust Kafirs who dominate the DSS with strong links to Mossad who know he staged a fake assassination on himself in order to trigger sectarian riots in the north.

The DSS of today, knows who is behind Boko Haram and the Fulani militia.
What you're doing here is akin to educating pigs to understand a thing when it comes to cleanliness and dirtiness.

These people do not have what it takes to understand anything you're sharing here especially those from the South West and the Middle Belt who are always at the receiving end of the Fulani herdsmen whose sole aim is to annihilate the middle Beltans and grab their arable land and push for the Islamization of the country through the back door, though here in the South East and the Niger Delta they will always meet their Waterloo.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Nobody: 8:16am On Jun 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
APC is becoming more like a cult than a political party sincerely the way her followers behave...Remember Adolf Hitler...Remember Egypt and her brotherhood...
PPAngel:
[size=18pt]Echoes from the past: Nazi Germany and the APC [/size]

1933 Germany.

The Nazi party rise to power begins with a significant representation in the German Parliament, The Reichstag.

On 30 January 1933 Adolf Hitler, leader of NSDAP (National Socialist German Workers Party), was appointed Reich Chancellor by the Reich President, Paul von Hindenburg. At the subsequent elections to the Reichstag, NSDAP, together with its coalition partner DNVP, gained an absolute majority. This was mainly due to the fact that political opponents had been terrorised during the election campaign.
(Sounds familiar?)

At the beginning of 1933, the other political parties were unhappy about letting Hitler become head of the government, since they considered him a boisterous amateur. On the other hand, keeping the Nazis from power had become increasingly difficult. It was an important fact that several of the conservatives in power (who ruled the country via emergency decrees signed by the President) were of the opinion that Hitler could be controlled and dominated, if he was made a responsible head of government.

The Buharists will point out that Buhari also can be controlled in a democratic setting.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Nobody: 8:17am On Jun 28, 2015
PPAngel:
The APC is bent on subverting the electoral mandate of PDP governors in Ekiti and Rivers via impeachment and court Rulings.

To the APC any election that does not go their way is marred with fraud.

Their aim is to controll all states and usher in a one party state thereby giving sweeping powers to that despotic puppet, Buhari.

It worked in Lagos for 16 years under Tinubu and is about to go National.

The bi-partisan character of the National assembly with the PDP majority and Presidency for the past 16 years which saw several threats of impeachment on the Presidency by the same PDP legislators is about to become a thing of the past.

The National Assembly will be no different than the rubber stamp state assemblies.

Buhari will be given sweeping powers.
Re: Why Buhari Does Not Trust The DSS by Nobody: 8:18am On Jun 28, 2015
PPAngel:
Nazis and Jews; APC and Ndigbo

Nazi party gained popularity among the plebian class of Germany through a doctrine of German pride and Nationalism and a fervent anti-semitic hate campaign identifying the Jews as the problem facing German society.

In the runnup to the concluded elections the APC propagated the lie that GEJ's cabinet was Igbo dominated even though this is not the case and can never be the case given the federal character requirement in appointing ministers.

Jonathan was also labelled as Igbo with a then serving northern APC governor writting a memo calling for the Igbos to reign in their son.

Today, anti Igbo sentiments are at their highest with even a paramount monarch from the SW threatning genocide on Igbos if they voted against the APC in his state. The case of anti igbo is also vibrant here on NL as well.

The Buharist mob here feel the Igbos should be neglected out of national issues but are silent on the ND people who voted in similar fashion with the igbos.
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