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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Nobody: 4:14pm On Jun 27, 2015
Velocitron:


You know, this is the thing people said when interracial marriages were legalised undecided
How does interracial marriage equate to homosexuality?
Whatever people held against that would be racially motivated than morally as in the case of homosexuality.
PS: am not against whatever two adults decides to do with themselves.
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Geophem(m): 4:29pm On Jun 27, 2015
kevoh:

Male Lions and even dogs perform homosexual acts with themselves to assert dominance. Oga google and youtube is your friend.
i didnt see them having sex wt each oda
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Nobody: 4:29pm On Jun 27, 2015
blublahd:

How does interracial marriage equate to homosexuality?
Whatever people held against that would be racially motivated than morally as in the case of homosexuality.
PS: am not against whatever two adults decides to do with themselves.


If you're talking about what's moral or immoral, that's another issue entirely. Morality isn't always a universal thing. People for gay marriage say "It's wrong to deny others of the right that you enjoy" while people against it say "It's wrong to be sexually attracted to people with the same sex as you". So is one group more moral/immoral than the other? If most Americans support gay marriage then it makes sense it would be legalised. Since most Nigerian don't support it, it makes sense that it is illegal here.



This isn't an argument, I just don't agree with the ideology that 'different is bad'

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Nobody: 4:35pm On Jun 27, 2015
Velocitron:



If you're talking about what's moral or immoral, that's another issue entirely. Morality isn't always a universal thing. People for gay marriage say "It's wrong to deny others of the right that you enjoy" while people against it say "It's wrong to be sexually attracted to people with the same sex as you". So is one group more moral/immoral than the other? If most Americans support gay marriage then it makes sense it would be legalised. Since most Nigerian don't support it, it makes sense that it is illegal here.



This isn't an argument, I just don't agree with the ideology that 'different is bad'
I quite agree with the idea morality is relative but your analogy of interracial marriage is not analogous.
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by plaetton: 4:40pm On Jun 27, 2015
Velocitron:



If you're talking about what's moral or immoral, that's another issue entirely. Morality isn't always a universal thing. People for gay marriage say "It's wrong to deny others of the right that you enjoy" while people against it say "It's wrong to be sexually attracted to people with the same sex as you". So is one group more moral/immoral than the other? If most Americans support gay marriage then it makes sense it would be legalised. Since most Nigerian don't support it, it makes sense that it is illegal here.



This isn't an argument, I just don't agree with the ideology that 'different is bad'

This is a sensible argument.

Unfortunately, most us humans have refused to evolve beyond that point where anything that is different seem to threaten us , and invoke our primitive instincts to lash out.

How convenient, sadly so, to easily forget that whites had the very same reactions, giving the very reasons against, at the idea that blacks were equal human beings who deserved equal freedoms , equal dignities and equal justice.

How tragically sad indeed.

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by ronald4lif(m): 4:46pm On Jun 27, 2015
Velocitron:



If you're talking about what's moral or immoral, that's another issue entirely. Morality isn't always a universal thing. People for gay marriage say "It's wrong to deny others of the right that you enjoy" while people against it say "It's wrong to be sexually attracted to people with the same sex as you". So is one group more moral/immoral than the other? If most Americans support gay marriage then it makes sense it would be legalised. Since most Nigerian don't support it, it makes sense that it is illegal here.



This isn't an argument, I just don't agree with the ideology that 'different is bad'

Word. That someone is different doesn't mean the person is egregious. We're Africans and we find same sex union abominable, good and fine. Americans don't view it in same light. To them it's all about sexual freedom and the non-infringement on people's right, provided they hurt no one. Organized religion doesn't define people. Common sense, empathy-altruism and science precede beliefs.

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by plaetton: 4:47pm On Jun 27, 2015
blublahd:

I quite agree with the idea morality is relative but your analogy of interracial marriage is not analogous.

From the mental disposition of Southern whites about 100 yrs ago, can you kindly explain how they are not analogous .

The very same reasons you are against homosexuality and same sex marriage are the verbatim same reasons that majority of whites, church going and bible thumping Christians to boot, expressed at the very thought of freedom for African slaves, equality, dignity and equal justice for blacks, racial integration and interracial marriage.

The very unfortunate thing here is your lack of appreciation for human history.

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by ronald4lif(m): 4:51pm On Jun 27, 2015
handsomeclouds:
There is endtime bro... Its really true and Gay legalizing-laws are part of its signs... In as much as it hate it.. Its inevitable.. It would widely be imported to other parts of the world. I just pray that by that time, I would be 6feets down enjoying with lovely angels preparing for my eternal stay in paradise.

Oh well. You believe there's end time, I don't believe there is. We should be cool with our individual opinion. cool
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Nobody: 4:53pm On Jun 27, 2015
blublahd:

I quite agree with the idea morality is relative but your analogy of interracial marriage is not analogous.


Good that we can agree on something.

I just don't think "How can you marry someone of a different color? That's not normal. We must protect racial purity"

is any different from

"How can you marry someone from the same sex as you? That's not normal. We must protect the institution of marriage".

It just reminds me too much of the murder of twin babies in the past, people justified it by saying "you had two babies instead of one?! It's not normal, hence it's an abomination."

The same people spew tribalism and hatred online, abuse their maids, burn someone alive on the streets are the same people that will be calling others sinners.

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Nobody: 4:54pm On Jun 27, 2015
ronald4lif:


Oh well. You believe there's end time, I don't believe there is. We should be cool with our individual opinion. cool
so I wanna ask you. Is the world ever going to come to an end?
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by kevoh(m): 4:56pm On Jun 27, 2015
Geophem:
i didnt see them having sex wt each oda
Like other anti gay activists, you have failed to see that the average homosexual wants more than just meaningless sex and it is more of companionship which they find more fulfilling with their same-sex partners.

Once again, google is your friend. Animals perform homosexual acts, a special case is the Bison where there is anal penetration. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals Take your time to read the link with an open and unbiased mind.

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by plaetton: 5:06pm On Jun 27, 2015
Velocitron:



Good that we can agree on something.

I just don't think "How can you marry someone of a different color? That's not normal. We must protect racial purity"

is any different from

"How can you marry someone from the same sex as you? That's not normal. We must protect the institution of marriage".

It just reminds me too much of the murder of twin babies in the past, people justified it by saying "you had two babies instead of one?! It's not normal, hence it's an abomination."

The same people spew tribalism and hatred online, abuse their maids, burn someone alive on the streets are the same people that will be calling others sinners.

Another beautiful , very sensible response.

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by ronald4lif(m): 5:07pm On Jun 27, 2015
handsomeclouds:
so I wanna ask you. Is the world ever going to come to an end?

Never. The world is never going to end, at least not until there are substantial evidence that corroborate so. There are no empirical evidence that suggest the world would cease to exist at some point. Countless embryonic generation will be sold the end time gospel but it would never be actualize. Just like erstwhile generations were sermonize about same talk and here we are today. The day one dies, becomes their 'end time'.

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jun 27, 2015
ronald4lif:


Never. The world is never going to end, at least not until there are substantial evidence that corroborate so. There are no empirical evidence that suggest the world would cease to exist at some point. Countless embryonic generation will be sold the end time gospel but it would never be actualize. Just like erstwhile generations were sermonize about same talk and here we are today. The day one dies, becomes their 'end time'.
that's where you missed it... Aside the fact that all scriptures and prophets set by God preaches end time signs( Anti Christ in particular), there are empirical evidences which are pragmatic enough. The tress produces oxygen, while human carbon4oxide... We both exchange for our existence. Without the sun, there would be no photosynthesis, meaning no oxygen for human and carbon4oxide for tress. The sun uses hydrogen which is limited in supply and will one day get exhausted... The sun will glow in red and red will burn up the earth just like the Muslims belief, that the earth is going to end by fire burning it. There is life after death and the world is gonna come to an end!
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by ojimbo(m): 5:57pm On Jun 27, 2015
Nigerian Christians are the most hypocritical people on earth, very proud and arrogant.
i just don't know what has gone wrong with their sense of reasoning. since i was born. every slightest thing that happens, they will rush to quote their bible telling you it is End time, that their bible made them to understand that bla bla bla bla bla. very stupid set of people

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by ronald4lif(m): 6:33pm On Jun 27, 2015
handsomeclouds:
that's where you missed it... Aside the fact that all scriptures and prophets set by God preaches end time signs( Anti Christ in particular), there are empirical evidences which are pragmatic enough. The tress produces oxygen, while human carbon4oxide... We both exchange for our existence. Without the sun, there would be no photosynthesis, meaning no oxygen for human and carbon4oxide for tress. The sun uses hydrogen which is limited in supply and will one day get exhausted... The sun will glow in red and red will burn up the earth just like the Muslims belief, that the earth is going to end by fire burning it. There is life after death and the world is gonna come to an end!

Your illustration is circumstantial and not a precision like the 'end time' saying. It's subjected to mankind ability and inabilities to allow that scenario actualize. Humans are aware of the dangers of deforestation and are putting up measures for it cessation. What you stated could have been obtainable were humans oblivious of photosynthesis, carbon and global warming.

As long as we have a diverse ecosystem of life, we will have oxygen in our atmosphere. The earth can not run out of oxygen unless we kill almost all the photosynthetic creatures on this planet.

Living creatures don't destroy energy after breathing it, we recycle them. The energy we're breathing today is same our primate ancestors breath in the days of yore. Not dismissing the fact that should your narration play out the world would cease to exist but not with the present awareness and cognizable knowledge of mankind of the importance of oxygen to continuous preservation of planet earth.

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Nobody: 6:42pm On Jun 27, 2015
ronald4lif:


Your illustration is circumstantial and not a precision like the 'end time' saying. It's subjected to mankind ability and inabilities to allow that scenario actualize. Humans are aware of the dangers of deforestation and are putting up measures for it cessation. What you stated could have been obtainable were humans oblivious of photosynthesis, carbon and global warming.

As long as we have a diverse ecosystem of life, we will have oxygen in our atmosphere. The earth can not run out of oxygen unless we kill almost all the photosynthetic creatures on this planet.

Living creatures don't destroy energy after breathing it, we recycle them. The energy we're breathing today is same our primate ancestors breath in the days of yore. Not dismissing the fact that should your narration play out the world would cease to exist but not with the present awareness and cognizable knowledge of mankind of the importance of oxygen to continuous preservation of planet earth.
you didn't get my point oxygen, carbon4oxide are all on one side... The hydrogen begin used by the sun is independent of other things. The hydrogen will get exhausted some day. It can remember the source of hydrogen.. But it can't be created/ replenished/renewabled as it will surely get exhausted someday and there is nothing mankind can do about it. Its not related to greening or global warming
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Nobody: 8:05pm On Jun 27, 2015
plaetton:


From the mental disposition of Southern whites about 100 yrs ago, can you kindly explain how they are not analogous .

The very same reasons you are against homosexuality and same sex marriage are the verbatim same reasons that majority of whites, church going and bible thumping Christians to boot, expressed at the very thought of freedom for African slaves, equality, dignity and equal justice for blacks, racial integration and interracial marriage.

The very unfortunate thing here is your lack of appreciation for human history.

First, I am not against any two adults who chooses to take up homosexuality as a choice.

Second, the southern whites saw a race that they felt was beneath them and should be treates like slaves as a result all that came with being slaves were meted to them. Would you think people who thought of a certain race in that light would give their daughters to any individuals from that race for marriage?
Their was borne of racism although they MAY have used whatever religious premise to justify their actions.
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Nobody: 8:21pm On Jun 27, 2015
Velocitron:



Good that we can agree on something.

I just don't think "How can you marry someone of a different color? That's not normal. We must protect racial purity"

is any different from

"How can you marry someone from the same sex as you? That's not normal. We must protect the institution of marriage".
I am not against whatever way of life anyone chooses, I hope thats clear enough to you?

And the two are VERY different.



It just reminds me too much of the murder of twin babies in the past, people justified it by saying "you had two babies instead of one?! It's not normal, hence it's an abomination."
This is a case of ignorance and primitiveness

The same people spew tribalism and hatred online, abuse their maids, burn someone alive on the streets are the same people that will be calling others sinners.
I do not intend to enter another debate on this.
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by Orunto: 7:43am On Jun 28, 2015
It is your problem too that you make it your business to talk gibberish to fellow humans..
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by lawrsmith(m): 11:24am On Jun 28, 2015
sambas:
We have many hypocrites in this
country. Its is a fact. I have
always said and would continue to
say it. Christians are the most
hypocritical being in the world.
.
.
.
A lot of peeps are on the brink
of suicide. Why? Because USA
legalized same sex marriage
yesterday. Its funny how we cry
over what is not supposed to
make us cry.
.
.
I have seen lotta bible verses/
chapters from the religious peeps
on my timeline. And am tired of
hearing ""mark of the beast""
Endtime this"Endtime that". Its
very irritating to hear even
educated people sound like a
stark illiterate.
.
.
First off, I have been hearing
endtime ever since I was a child.
Whether you like or not, the
world is not ending anytime soon.
You can kill yourself if you want
your end to come as soon as
possible.
.
.
The most annoying part of the
hypocritical submission is the fact
that even the gays(mainly closet
gays) we have in nigeria are all
shouting "sin" sin".
.
.
When you commit abortions, you
don't quote bible verses.
.
.
When you Bleep people's husbands
and wives, you don't quote bible
verses.
.
.
When you cheat on your partner,
you don't quote bible verses.
.
.
When you come on social media
and sexchat all manner of
humans, you don't quote bible
verses.
.
.
When you sleep with little
children, you don't quote bible
verses.
.
.
When you put "juju"in your shop
to boost your sales, you don't
quote bible verses.
.
.
But when gays are mentioned,
you remember your bible and
cram the verses suitable to you.
To drive home your stupid points.
.
.
Unless you are without sin, you
have no right to judge a gay. Who
the hell are you?
.
.
We all still living in abject poverty
even with all the money we have
in Nigeria. Nobody came to our
rescue with bible verses.
.
.
Your pastors are living in
affluence and their members are
still suffering, you don't quote
bible verses, you don't remind
them they are committing sin.
.
.
Your pastors are fucking people's
wives, choir mistresses on daily
basis, you don't quote bible
verses. Of course, fear no go
gree you talk. You wan die?
.
.
Your pastors are staging miracles
deceiving nigerians every single
day, you don't remember your
bible verses.
.
.
Your pastors are destroying
people's marriages everyday with
their fake fake prophecies. You
don't quote bible verses.
.
.
All those things no be sin?
.
.
A woman I know have been
pregnant since 2012, nobody
healed her with bible verses. The
poor woman is still going up and
down looking for her miracle.
.
.
A member of my family has been
suffering a particular ailment
since 2007, he has not seen his
miracle.
.
.
Boko haram have been killing
innocent nigerians for many
years, nobody quoted bible
verses.
.
.
When gays are mentioned, you
remember sodom and gomorah,
you remember 666, you
remember endtime.
.
.
For your small mind, you be
born again? Heaven bound?
Holiest in the world?
.
.
Bleep you all.
.
.
For your tiny mind, you be
Homophobic abi? Bleep you to
hell.
.
.
You don't quote your bible verses
where and when its needed. Bleep
you.
.
.
Bloody hypocrites.
Ifeoma Lawal©©®™2015
no body is disputing the fact that those things you mentioned above are wronged to do and needed to be preached against.but let me ask you question? have you come accross anywhere in the world where pastors' is preaching in favor of those things you mentioned? nobody is condenming gay for crying out loud.for me legalizing gay is a sin against God and nature.if you look at the way human beings are created you will see Gods natural plan for man about sex and procreation.so legalizing gay is a way of going against God's plans for man.since other animal and other creatures has not violated this plans,i think it is insanity for man to follow this way when every other animal is still respecting the Nature.may God help us.
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by dazzlingbeau(f): 11:40am On Jun 28, 2015
[quote author=kevoh post=35212535]
Male Lions and even dogs perform homosexual acts with themselves to assert dominance. Oga google and youtube is your friend. [/qfacts my bro I tir o people just say thing without facts. lots of animals engage in homosexuality. People do yourself a favour and read a book today, and stop spewing your stupidity here.
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by dazzlingbeau(f): 11:43am On Jun 28, 2015
Velocitron:



Good that we can agree on something.

I just don't think "How can you marry someone of a different color? That's not normal. We must protect racial purity"

is any different from

"How can you marry someone from the same sex as you? That's not normal. We must protect the institution of marriage".

It just reminds me too much of the murder of twin babies in the past, people justified it by saying "you had two babies instead of one?! It's not normal, hence it's an abomination."

The same people spew tribalism and hatred online, abuse their maids, burn someone alive on the streets are the same people that will be calling others sinners.
Best write up ever. This just made my day.

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Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by trapQ: 7:16pm On Jun 30, 2015
you are the clown. your comment made sense except for last sentence where you insulted tb joshua. you don't insult an ordained man OF GOD like that. has he scammed you before? or what proof do you have of him staging miracles? this man's philanthropy is out of this world. his healings and deliverances are unmatchable. do you know the countless number of people that have been healed through him? recently the wife of minister of information-MALAWI was healed of a rotten jaw through the medium of the anointing water. we all know how rich African leaders are, do you think she can be bribed? pls always give facts before discreding people. esp ordained prophets. thank you.
plaetton:


Religion itself evolved out of man's need to camouflage and hide his real self and real intentions.
Everything about religion is about hypocrisy.

Nigerians don't lose sleep when Catholic priests are exposed of institutionally sanctioning the molestation, via sodomy, of millions of young children over a period of 2000 yrs.

Neither do they lose sleep when Nigerian fraudster MOGs MONEY-SCAM the poor faithful in order to buy private jets and live like kings.

Neither were there a natiomal uproar when 119 faithful worshippers were grinded to sausage in synagogue house of scams, due to the criminality of the presiding clown, TB clown Joshua.
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by plaetton: 8:38pm On Jun 30, 2015
trapQ:
you are the clown. your comment made sense except for last sentence where you insulted tb joshua. you don't insult an ordained man OF GOD like that. has he scammed you before? or what proof do you have of him staging miracles? this man's philanthropy is out of this world. his healings and deliverances are unmatchable. do you know the countless number of people that have been healed through him? recently the wife of minister of information-MALAWI was healed of a rotten jaw through the medium of the anointing water. we all know how rich African leaders are, do you think she can be bribed? pls always give facts before discreding people. esp ordained prophets. thank you.

Lol.

When truth bites hard, the clowns come out.
cheesy
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by trapQ: 11:26pm On Jun 30, 2015
pot calling kettle black. fix yourself
plaetton:

Lol.
When truth bites hard, the clowns come out. cheesy
Re: This Post Is Sure Gonna Make You Angry. That's Your Problem!! by joywendy(f): 10:20am On Jul 02, 2015
Geophem:
op u ar free to marry dt ur gay frnd.. Bt seriously leave xtianity nd bible out of dis.... Moral ethics doesnt support homosexuality ... Av u seen same sex animals making out before... Get a life nd be responsible

Okay I told myself I wasn't gonna comment on this gay stuff anymore has people have their own ideology and beliefs.I respect the fact that people would react to what they seem has a threat to their personal beliefs. But I can't stand when people try to pass their own beliefs on others while sounding extremely ignorant.

@bold to make it clear to you sir, we have many species of animals who practice homosexual behaviours,this is fact.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/1500-animal-species-practice-homosexuality.aspx

What are you going to say about this animals? Don't even give me the excuse that they are animals because we are also animals mammals to be precised.

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