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Cutehector:
cheks my sin.... Red as scarlet.. Checks ronald4 lif"s own. Black as charcoal

blublahd:
Why?

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]I believe He exists , but I don't really give a fvck where I end up after death.[/color]

Kbs468:
Are you serious? You mean you dont give a fvck even if ended up in Hell?

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]All this talk about heaven or hell. It's doest just seem right when you think about it.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine a child who grew up in an hindu home and a hindu country. He never heard about christianity all though his life, and even if he did, he was always told that his religion was the right one.

If such child grows up,and dies, the bible tells us that he would go to hell because he isn't a christian and did accept Jesus.

Now does this seem just in any way? Was there any way this young man would have known christ, especially with the circumstances surrounding his upbringing?
Yet, the bible says he would rot in hell for a crime he knew nothing about and had no control of.

Come to think of it. Why would I send my creations to hell just because of little sins such as a lie? or just for stealing .
Let's be logical, does it make any sense to you?
Even someone who serves God all his life and the last minute before he dies, just commits a single sin, are you telling me that person would still end up in the lake of fire?

How would a compassionate God still allow his creations suffer such torment everlasting just for committing sins, despite the fact that most of them were born into environments that prompted sin. Also bearing in mind that we have different personalities and inherent characters that largely affect our decision making and reaction to circumstances.

It doesn't just seem right.[/color]

ronald4lif:
Quite revealing and insightful. I do hope your respondent(s) have the purview and ingenuity to counter this deep rooted comment "logically".

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]I doubt if they can. [/color]

ronald4lif:
Most likely they can't without resorting to biblical referrals which would negate rationality and defeat the purpose of a brainstorming discourse. Anyways, let's keep tab and observe what they've got up their sleeves.

blublahd:
Primarily noted for.
You aware of the derivation of
'sodomy'?.

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Let's wait and see.

By the way, I hope you know I am going to be interviewed tomorrow.
I would like to ask, why are there 4 interviewees, unlike the normal 3 we are accustomed to?[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]All this talk about heaven or hell. It's doest just seem right when you think about it.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine a child who grew up in an hindu home and a hindu country. He never heard about christianity all though his life, and even if he did, he was always told that his religion was the right one.

If such child grows up,and dies, the bible tells us that he would go to hell because he isn't a christian and did accept Jesus.

Now does this seem just in any way? Was there any way this young man would have known christ, especially with the circumstances surrounding his upbringing?
Yet, the bible says he would rot in hell for a crime he knew nothing about and had no control of.

Come to think of it. Why would I send my creations to hell just because of little sins such as a lie? or just for stealing .
Let's be logical, does it make any sense to you?
Even someone who serves God all his life and the last minute before he dies, just commits a single sin, are you telling me that person would still end up in the lake of fire?

How would a compassionate God still allow his creations suffer such torment everlasting just for committing sins, despite the fact that most of them were born into environments that prompted sin. Also bearing in mind that we have different personalities and inherent characters that largely affect our decision making and reaction to circumstances.

It doesn't just seem right.[/color]

tpiander:
possibly.

are you gay btw, just curious, most people with cute in their monikers tend to give off such a vibe.

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]How?[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]All this talk about heaven or hell. It's doest just seem right when you think about it.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine a child who grew up in an hindu home and a hindu country. He never heard about christianity all though his life, and even if he did, he was always told that his religion was the right one.

If such child grows up,and dies, the bible tells us that he would go to hell because he isn't a christian and did accept Jesus.

Now does this seem just in any way? Was there any way this young man would have known christ, especially with the circumstances surrounding his upbringing?
Yet, the bible says he would rot in hell for a crime he knew nothing about and had no control of.

Come to think of it. Why would I send my creations to hell just because of little sins such as a lie? or just for stealing .
Let's be logical, does it make any sense to you?
Even someone who serves God all his life and the last minute before he dies, just commits a single sin, are you telling me that person would still end up in the lake of fire?

How would a compassionate God still allow his creations suffer such torment everlasting just for committing sins, despite the fact that most of them were born into environments that prompted sin. Also bearing in mind that we have different personalities and inherent characters that largely affect our decision making and reaction to circumstances.

It doesn't just seem right.[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]All this talk about heaven or hell. It's doest just seem right when you think about it.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine a child who grew up in an hindu home and a hindu country. He never heard about christianity all though his life, and even if he did, he was always told that his religion was the right one.

If such child grows up,and dies, the bible tells us that he would go to hell because he isn't a christian and did accept Jesus.

Now does this seem just in any way? Was there any way this young man would have known christ, especially with the circumstances surrounding his upbringing?
Yet, the bible says he would rot in hell for a crime he knew nothing about and had no control of.

Come to think of it. Why would I send my creations to hell just because of little sins such as a lie? or just for stealing .
Let's be logical, does it make any sense to you?
Even someone who serves God all his life and the last minute before he dies, just commits a single sin, are you telling me that person would still end up in the lake of fire?

How would a compassionate God still allow his creations suffer such torment everlasting just for committing sins, despite the fact that most of them were born into environments that prompted sin. Also bearing in mind that we have different personalities and inherent characters that largely affect our decision making and reaction to circumstances.

It doesn't just seem right.[/color]

blublahd:
You see I have pondered on some if the things you wrote there. I had one time thought why don't God instill the spirit by default to practise the virtues he requires of us.

That supposed 'logic' is of the view of the flesh and as such we will always seem to find certain flaws here ans there.

But it is known that the foolishness of God is greater than the wisdom of man. To see God' s own logic we will have to take up His spirit.

Havin said that, only God can put answers to questions we mau have at heart just as the disciples of Christ constantly asked him questions.

At one point, I think Jesus asked, who am I? and a disciple and said He is the son of God. To which Jesus replied flesh and blood have not revealed that to you but of the Holy spirit.

I myself have questions I would like to hear the answers.
The logic of the world is inferior to the wisdom of God. Seeing as God created it.

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]All this talk about heaven or hell. It's doest just seem right when you think about it.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine a child who grew up in an hindu home and a hindu country. He never heard about christianity all though his life, and even if he did, he was always told that his religion was the right one.

If such child grows up,and dies, the bible tells us that he would go to hell because he isn't a christian and did accept Jesus.

Now does this seem just in any way? Was there any way this young man would have known christ, especially with the circumstances surrounding his upbringing?
Yet, the bible says he would rot in hell for a crime he knew nothing about and had no control of.

Come to think of it. Why would I send my creations to hell just because of little sins such as a lie? or just for stealing .
Let's be logical, does it make any sense to you?
Even someone who serves God all his life and the last minute before he dies, just commits a single sin, are you telling me that person would still end up in the lake of fire?

How would a compassionate God still allow his creations suffer such torment everlasting just for committing sins, despite the fact that most of them were born into environments that prompted sin. Also bearing in mind that we have different personalities and inherent characters that largely affect our decision making and reaction to circumstances.

It doesn't just seem right.[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Why was this logic given to us if we can't use it? Abraham used logic when he questioned God when He wanted to destroy Sodom and gomorrah, and God respected his logic.
Why is my case any different?

I am still trying to understand why someone who is omniscience would create people, knowing fully well what's going to happen at the end, but He will still go ahead to create them, and allow those circumstances that would lead to such a bitter end for the majority of creations to still triumph.

It's like God enjoys watching things unfold. Like he obtains some weird pleasure seeing 'things' happen.
Sorry, but this is just me applying the logic I was created with.

If you have good thoughts for your creations, why allow such evil to flourish?

For me, I see it like a game between God and the Devil.
Like , "let's see who is going to have more people on their side" kind of game.
This begs the question of who the devil really is.
I doubt he was just an arch angel.[/color]

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Why was this logic given to us if we can't use it? Abraham used logic when he questioned God when He wanted to destroy Sodom and gomorrah, and God respected his logic.
Why is my case any different?

I am still trying to understand why someone who is omniscience would create people, knowing fully well what's going to happen at the end, but He will still go ahead to create them, and allow those circumstances that would lead to such a bitter end for the majority of creations to still triumph.

It's like God enjoys watching things unfold. Like he obtains some weird pleasure seeing 'things' happen.
Sorry, but this is just me applying the logic I was created with.

If you have good thoughts for your creations, why allow such evil to flourish?

For me, I see it like a game between God and the Devil.
Like , "let's see who is going to have more people on their side" kind of game.
This begs the question of who the devil really is.
I doubt he was just an arch angel.[/color]

epelumi42:
God is ever merciful and he will cast no one to hell of his will.

epelumi42:
People will choose of their own volition to go to hell. His instructions are straight

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Really? I doubt that. Someone who is merciful and is regarded as the most merciful won't allow his creation to suffer forever?
Just take yourself as an example. you a mere man who hasn't isn't half as merciful as God, imagine someone steals from you or does you wrong or goes against your laws, would you sentence that person to a life time of torment?
How much more someone who is termed as the most merciful doing it to his own creations?[/color]




[color=#000050]His instructions are straight. Believe in jesus, accept him as your Lord and personal savior, stay away from sin and you will go to heaven.

Like I said before, how would someone who is born and raised in a religion that's not christianity accept Jesus as his lord and personal savior? Someone just doesn't go against his religious training that has been ingrained in him since childhood just because someone comes to tell him that Jesus loves him and quotes some scriptures in the bible.
It doesn't work that way.
If a muslim comes to preach to you, how would you feel. Would you just drop you christian doctrines and follow them? Of course not.

And if we are going by the bibles principles, then this is injustice of the highest form, because some people are more privileged to be born into christian homes.
With this, it would be safe to say that we are not giving equal grounds, hence this process of judgment in wrong and unjust.[/color]

epelumi42:
Yes, it may not seem right. Let me take you on a journey through the bible (if you believe in it as the ultimate reference for your stance).

For the Child that may not have heard of the gospel, the bible makes a provision for children who have not reached the age of consent, and exempts them from damnation. Jesus mentioned believing the gospel as a little child. For an adult, take your time to read Mark 13:6-10. Verse ten says the gospel must first be preached in all nation before the end comes.

The gong of wars and disasters, fake prophets, commotions do not signify the end time as well. Luke 21:9 reiterates that.

I timothy 2:3,4- for this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our saviour. Who will have all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of faith.

Every one in the world will learn of the gospel, their decision to accept or reject it is not a problem of God. It is his wish that they come to repentance.

Martin Luther was saved by reading just a passage in the bible, 'the just shall live by faith'. Contrary what he's been taught his entire life. Being born as a Hindu, is no excuse to die a Hindu, just as being born a pauper does not mean you die as one.

Galatians 3:6- even as Abraham believed God, it was accounted to him for righteousness.

As for a believer who sins at the last minute, Hebrews 8:25, says 'wherefore he is also able to save them to the uttermost that come to God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercessions for them'. That subject is controversial and it is termed 'eternal security'. Every believer is given everlasting life on trusting God. It is a gift and never taken away.

People's decision to go against the will of God is their problem too... Ignorance is never an excuse.

As for life after death, you dont have to be confused. 1 Corinthians 15:12-14. Read that. If there be no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen.

Above all, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved. Make your bible your friend.

MrCork:
^^^^ther u go..missclassy is on fire..edukate,edukate,edukate....dyammm I LOVE THIS CHICK!!!

Isaacmacdon:
Wonderful... wat a piece... a blunt nd direct reply to d cravings of d human nature.. I stumbled on wat someone said in dis thread... "d foolishness of God z greater dan d wisdom of man".... Dis really hit me.. Dis reply was given to u by d holy one..d spirit of God.. Fast forward to something I discovered... ever wondered y Jesus was sent to die for us,y in dis present day there z no stand out human as d biblical nd ancient men of valour.. Jacob,Abraham,Moses,Joshua,Joseph,Isaac,Daniel,david..etc... D flesh z a driving force.. Satan foolishly killed Jesus not knowing it was destined to liberate us from d powers of d flesh... D crucifixion of Jesus was d day d flesh had less powers on its inhabitants... d holy spirit gives answers to dese questions asked on dis thread... I pray d person recognizes dat she has bn deceived by d devil nd d forces of d flesh... God z wonderful... d gospel z beautiful.. heaven z a place to be.. where d king lives... oh.. can't wait to get there.. Hell z indeed a place of sorrow.. God give us grace never to fall into it.. May God deliver us all... Amen.. peace to my brethrens... D city of gold awaits us all.. let's endeavor to get there..

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]Most times when I see other religious sects and cult followings standing strong and immovable, unable to accept anything that goes against what they believe, and at the same time, blinded by what they believe in, I stop and ask myself, what makes these people any different from you so called christians.[/color]

blublahd:
So now you are not a christian? And you seem to have avoided my question.

misssclassy:
[color=#000050]I have no problem with anyway anyone chooses to live his/her life.

I have my own life to live. Anyone can live anyway they want, it's non of my business.
I am heterosexual and I am proud of my sexuality. If someone else is homosexual and he/she is proud of it, why should I be bothered?

People always claim this and that. But most of them are ignorant.
They claim that God will destroy homosexuals , blah blah blah, but yet ,it's still the same God that creates people that way.

I have better things to worry about that someone else's sexuality.[/color]

[color=#1980BC]You say what? [/color]