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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:41am On Jun 28, 2015
mzilakazi:
More than 95% of SA households still enjoy the supply of electricity other than consistent power cuts which happens after two to three days but for only 2-3 hours. That is not bad as compared to those who gets nothing at all. By next year we will start experiencing the supply of electricity free of interruptions. Projects to build six nuclear stations have already started with two more new coal powerstations starting stating production next year.

This is SA things are happening.
WOW what u have up dere z wot I call MOONLIGHT STORY d GODS....
u know so much about us and u have'nt heard DAT our electricity here as improved in so many places as in about 18 hrs a day... yeah I know u definitely can't comprehend DAT...
This z NIGERIA things are improving

Reminder - u ommitted ur unemployment rate.....answer pls...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:42am On Jun 28, 2015
lezz:
you call that latest report? You must be under the influence of too much pap. After the re validation of workers and new state governors settling in, states are beginning to payhttp://www.news24.com.ng/National/News/Kaduna-State-Govt-begins-verification-of-workers-on-Wednesday-20150621
Chief, your ex minister is contradicting herself, all she claimed is just hearsay because she couldn't prove it. Now the US and other countries including SA have vowed to help Nigeria recover the stolen money. Nigeria literally has nothing on the treasury


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33253999
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:45am On Jun 28, 2015
ddami:
WOW what u have up dere z wot I call MOONLIGHT STORY d GODS....
u know so much about us and u have'nt heard DAT our electricity here as improved in so many places as in about 18 hrs a day... yeah I know u definitely can't comprehend DAT...
This z NIGERIA things are improving

Reminder - u ommitted ur unemployment rate.....answer pls...
Believe it or not. search for the schedule of load shedding of SA cities.



http://loadshedding.eskom.co.za/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:49am On Jun 28, 2015
mzilakazi:
Chief, your ex minister is contradicting herself, all she claimed is just hearsay because she couldn't prove it. Now the US and other countries including SA have vowed to help Nigeria recover the stolen money. Nigeria literally has nothing on the treasury


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33253999
Jacob Zuma desperate to repair strained relation with Nigeria offered to return the $15 million arms deal money to Nigeria without any promoting from our government.

Even Pretoria knows the beginning of wisdom is to enjoy a cordial diplomatic relations with Nigeria grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:51am On Jun 28, 2015
jln115:
What mistake bro?
yet again I will have 2 tell u 2 Re-Read SLOWLY.. boy don't be silly its not that hard, u can make it.. or will dis b another puzzle 4 u
I Think u realize ur mistake but u just want 2 pretend.., psy 101 - it decreases ur brain capacity to a negative (-) state
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:52am On Jun 28, 2015
jln115:
Go read Einsteins definition of insanity.
grin grin grin I know you'll chicken out!!!

No need looking up Einstein's view on insanity when you have been a living example since yesterday.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:56am On Jun 28, 2015
mzilakazi:
Believe it or not. search for the schedule of load shedding of SA cities.



http://loadshedding.eskom.co.za/
OKay ve heard but did not believe even God knows I don't open such links...

Meanwhile what's up wit ur unemployment rate.. tell me na ah ah I just wanna know..and stop avoiding d damn que...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:58am On Jun 28, 2015
ddami:
OKay ve heard but did not believe even God knows I don't open such links...

Meanwhile what's up wit ur unemployment rate.. tell me na ah ah I just wanna know..and stop avoiding d damn que...
Then that's your own Indaba. Live in your noisy generator society forever.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:01pm On Jun 28, 2015
jln115:
Refer to Einsteins definition of insanity.
grin grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:08pm On Jun 28, 2015
@JLN115 thinks am a BOY,
@mzilakazi thinks am a LESBIAN,
@dictatorzar thinks am STRAIGHT.,
ahaah DAMI u are dynamic,

FYI:: I love BIG BLACK NIGERIAN D**K,, not some,
3.5 INCH, PENCIL-sized THICK S.A D***,

I pray u can Comprehend DAT my dear S.A fans...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Jun 28, 2015
mzilakazi:
Then that's your own Indaba. Live in your noisy generator society forever.
uhuhuhu should I call my jackpot on u..... GUY u have been feasting on Nigeria's issue since Time immemorial.. Apparently u know more about us Dan I do.... Just ONE question: dis z d third time u are avoiding it..,
WHAT z YOUR unemployment rate,, am not gonna use it against u.. I Just wanna know.. Common Boy u can do dis... Its not DAT hard..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 12:17pm On Jun 28, 2015
ddami:
@JLN115 thinks am a BOY,
@mzilakazi thinks am a LESBIAN,
@dictatorzar thinks am STRAIGHT.,
ahaah DAMI u are dynamic,

FYI:: I love BIG BLACK NIGERIAN D**K,, not some,
3.5 INCH, PENCIL-sized THICK S.A D***,

I pray u can Comprehend DAT my dear S.A fans...
lol..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:28pm On Jun 28, 2015
mzilakazi:
More than 95% of SA households still enjoy the supply of electricity other than consistent power cuts which happens after two to three days but for only 2-3 hours. That is not bad as compared to those who gets nothing at all. By next year we will start experiencing the supply of electricity free of interruptions. Projects to build six nuclear stations have already started with two more new coal powerstations starting stating production next year.

This is SA things are happening.
President Jacob Zuma has blamed apartheid as the root cause of South Africa’s electricity woes, noting that the system was built to funnel power to white homes. “The problem is that energy was structured racially to serve a particular race, not the majority,” he told delegates at a recent Young Communist League congress in Cape Town. In the past two post-apartheid decades, the government led by the African National Congress has indeed made great strides in bringing power to the rest of the country. Mr Zuma says 11m households now have electricity, twice as many as in 1994.[i][/i] But this is cold comfort for a country now united in darkness. Eskom’s woes—crumbling old power stations, delays in the building of new plant—were widely predicted,
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:31pm On Jun 28, 2015
ddami:
yet again I will have 2 tell u 2 Re-Read SLOWLY.. boy don't be silly its not that hard, u can make it.. or will dis b another puzzle 4 u
I Think u realize ur mistake but u just want 2 pretend.., psy 101 - it decreases ur brain capacity to a negative (-) state
Lets make it a puzzel again, shant we?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:36pm On Jun 28, 2015
lezz:
grin grin grin I know you'll chicken out!!!

No need looking up Einstein's view on insanity when you have been a living example since yesterday.
Deference is when I repeat the fact that you dont know the deference between bcom and become I DONT expect a different result, I know you dont know the difference, when you keep calling me a Zulu you expect me to somehow magically change into a Zulu, now go read Einsteins definition again.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA:
lezz:
Jacob Zuma desperate to repair strained relation with Nigeria offered to return the $15 million arms deal money to Nigeria without any promoting from our government.

Even Pretoria knows the beginning of wisdom is to enjoy a cordial diplomatic relations with Nigeria grin
a matured Nigerian will find your comment embarrassing
1.Buhari sent delegates to SA to ask Zuma s support for the development bank position
2.While addressing Nigerians living in SA Buhari indicated that he would request to have a meeting with Zuma regarding your confiscated oil money.

Lezz it is apparent to me that you are immatured thats why you always say things the opposite way ...you are not different from another guy called All4kak who posted a picture of a south African with his wife implying that he is a Nigerian ....lol
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:41pm On Jun 28, 2015
lezz:
President Jacob Zuma has blamed apartheid as the root cause of South Africa’s electricity woes, noting that the system was built to funnel power to white homes. “The problem is that energy was structured racially to serve a particular race, not the majority,” he told delegates at a recent Young Communist League congress in Cape Town. In the past two post-apartheid decades, the government led by the African National Congress has indeed made great strides in bringing power to the rest of the country. Mr Zuma says 11m households now have electricity, twice as many as in 1994.[i][/i] But this is cold comfort for a country now united in darkness. Eskom’s woes—crumbling old power stations, delays in the building of new plant—were widely predicted,
We have three new power stations on the way. Production starts next year with Medupe already partially producing power.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:44pm On Jun 28, 2015
ddami:
@JLN115 thinks am a BOY, @mzilakazi thinks am a LESBIAN, @dictatorzar thinks am STRAIGHT., ahaah DAMI u are dynamic,
FYI:: I love BIG BLACK NIGERIAN D**K,, not some, 3.5 INCH, PENCIL-sized THICK S.A D***,
I pray u can Comprehend DAT my dear S.A fans...
Nope, you are a lezzbian dummy.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:46pm On Jun 28, 2015
jln115:
Deference is when I repeat the fact that you dont know the deference between bcom and become I DONT expect a different result, I know you dont know the difference, when you keep calling me a Zulu you expect me to somehow magically change into a Zulu, now go read Einsteins definition again.
why do you hurt your Zulu brothers this bad. For your info, you have every pride to flaunt your Zulu heritage, no need to be ashamed. Remember Shaka, the Zulu, the half unclad spear-weilding Zulu Tarzan? grin grin grin

Those are things you should be proud of. Now show me your spear-weilding skills and I will tell you the difference between a modern Zulu and a pre-apartheid one. Common. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:51pm On Jun 28, 2015
mzilakazi:
We have three new power stations on the way. Production starts next year with Medupe already partially producing power.
grin grin grin there are now wild calls for eskom to be privatised as it can't be managed. Like south African airways grin your power grid are obsolete.

Your excuses aren't flying. You are used to darkness, you khayelitsha-n grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:51pm On Jun 28, 2015
mzilakazi:
Nope, you are a lezzbian dummy.
u think I don't know DAT u are just trying 2 relate lezz 2 d lesbian stuff unlike u guyz we Nigerians comprehend better....
ALL of u guyz brain z CONFUSED, MYOPIC and in a KOLO state.. I had 2 write it in terms u will understand...

meanwhile::: WHAt z Ur Unemployment Rate.. 4 d 4th time booby-kitty...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m):
lezz:
A south African sport minister also compared the South African league to the EPL cry

A south African diplomat also meddled in the Israeli-Palestinian affair. Did you watch the video of the south African minister who attempted to defend South Africa's world cup bribery? He reeked of lack of professionalism and came off looking more guilty than judas grin

Stupidity is a national heritage of south Africans grin

I never knew the GDP gap hurts you guys @patchesagain, jn115 et al.

Now of all the prediction from Pretoria to Paris not one analyst have predicted SA ever coming tops in GDP again. As the years go so out gap over you grows. Ethiopia is coming to ease you off the top spot soon.

Ewu Zulu grin
[size=25]Bwahahahaha…It is only a matter of settling disputes in our mining industry and once things finally settle, South Africa will climb the ladder of success and overtake many countries, Nigeria included. We have the mineral wealth that is twice the GDP of America. The Chair of Chamber of mines asked South Africans to compromise the strikes and politicising of minerals for the sake of the success of the country.[/size]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:00pm On Jun 28, 2015
ddami:
u think I don't know DAT u are just trying 2 relate lezz 2 d lesbian stuff unlike u guyz we Nigerians comprehend better....
ALL of u guyz brain z CONFUSED, MYOPIC and in a KOLO state.. I had 2 write it in terms u will understand...

meanwhile::: WHAt z Ur Unemployment Rate.. 4 d 4th time booby-kitty...
Whatever that you always write is always incoherent.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:06pm On Jun 28, 2015
mzilakazi:
Whatever that you always write is always incoherent.
FOR THE FIFTH TIME WHAT IS YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.. booby-kitty..
tell one of ur fellow brothers 2 tell me if u cant...
considering how u have been having a filled-day about our own Issues... Tell mua something baby... YOU CaN Do This..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:23pm On Jun 28, 2015
ddami:
FOR THE FIFTH TIME WHAT IS YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.. booby-kitty..
tell one of ur fellow brothers 2 tell me if u cant...
considering how u have been having a filled-day about our own Issues... Tell mua something baby... YOU CaN Do This..
Tell me your unemployment rate first.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:23pm On Jun 28, 2015
[quote author=ddami post=35236672]They are not used 2 it... all dey specialize in is rape.. *ON THE OTHER THREAD ONE SAID HE THINKS AM A MAN*... I just discovered they all have one thing in common... COMPREHENSION issues....
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody:
jln115:
*UHM WHEN DID I THINK THAT YOU ARE A MAN* Although you might look like one I could clearly saw the f next to your name.

And btw the fact that you dont know the difference between bcom and become written in a perfectly correct sentence means YOU dont have any comprehension skills.
.
jln115:
What mistake bro?
jln115:
.
. @jln115 relate dis post to the one above that has my MONiker.... When did u become ONE
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 1:26pm On Jun 28, 2015
MduZA:
a matured Nigerian will find your comment embarrassing
1.Buhari sent delegates to SA to ask Zuma s support for the development bank position
2.While addressing Nigerians living in SA Buhari indicated that he would request to have a meeting with Zuma regarding your confiscated oil money.

Lezz it is apparent to me that you are immatured thats why you always say things the opposite way ...you are no different with another guy called All4kak who posted a picture of a south African with his wife implying that he is a Nigerian ....lol
Bros, abeg, we no be mate in any sphere of human awareness!!! Oya read:[b] A South African newspaper, The Mail & Guardian, reported on Friday that South Africa had begun to work out the process of returning more than R100-million in Nigerian money that it confiscated last year, or clearing the way to sell arms to the West African country.
The Mail and Guardian through diplomatic sources informed that South Africa has begun talks to work out a process to return the money in an effort to start off on a clean slate with the recently elected government of the Nigerian president-elect, Muhammadu Buhari.
South African law enforcement agencies seized $15-million in two batches: $5.7-million that had been wired to Standard Bank and $9.3-million in cash, which was confiscated. It was brought into the country through Lanseria airport in Johannesburg in three suitcases by a delegation said to represent the Nigerian government. In both cases, the money was suspected to be for illegal use.

*President Zuma
Now South Africa wants to use the money to extend an olive branch to Buhari’s government and mend relations between the two countries, which became strained during the tenure of outgoing president Goodluck Jonathan.
“The positive thing about [Buhari] is that one of the people who supported him is Atiku Abubakar. That makes him our man and he will automatically work well with [President Jacob] Zuma,” a government source said.
Close connection
Abubakar is close to Zuma. He was Nigeria’s vice president during the presidency of Olusegun Obasanjo, at the time when Zuma was Thabo Mbeki’s deputy.
“Also, this man [Buhari] is a [retired] military general. It is true that the military needs some beefing up to fight Boko Haram and we should help,” the source added.
So how will Nigeria know that it stands to benefit from an otherwise controversial transaction that had exacerbated tensions between the two countries?
Explained the government source: “Diplomatically you send a signal. Obviously they will have to make a request once they receive a positive signal, but the request will just be an official step to finalising the transaction.”
Buhari is due to take over the leadership of the country after winning the recent elections. Formal talks have not yet begun but South Africa has apparently started sending “positive signals” through its diplomats in Nigeria and to the Nigerian embassy in Pretoria.
Diplomatically favourable
To ensure that the process of returning the money or regularising the sale of arms looks as
clean as possible, the Hawks investigation will continue, the source said, but will be managed politically to reach a conclusion that is diplomatically favourable.
“One way is to make the investigators say: ‘Yes, a law has been broken, but it’s true that the government [of Nigeria] is the owner of that money and genuinely wanted to buy arms legally. They might have flouted the rules, but it’s a genuine transaction.’ [We will say] this money does not come from dirty hands or rebels or arms dealers,” the source said.
“We will find a way to regularise the transaction and either return the money or give them arms.”
Nigeria wanted to buy arms such as helicopters and ammunition to strengthen its fight against Islamic extremist group Boko Haram.
Last year, the M&G reported that the head of the national conventional arms control committee, Jeff Radebe, who is also the minister in the presidency, was blamed by his colleagues in government for taking a unilateral decision to try to regularise the sale of arms to Nigeria to facilitate the release of bodies of South Africans who were killed when the TB Joshua church building collapsed in Nigeria.
At the time, Radebe denied it and said the committee had met in October and decided to propose unlocking the Nigerian arms trade.
‘Bona fide error’
The M&G quoted from two letters that Radebe had written to JP “Torie” Pretorius of the Hawks and Dumisani Dladla, the head of the arms control committee’s secretariat, in which he said the failed attempt on September 5 to pay an arms dealer in South Africa “was, in fact, a legitimate requirement from the government of Nigeria”. “Although the required administrative processes were not adhered to at the time, the government of South Africa deems it a bona fide error,” he wrote.
This week a government source told the M&G: “What Jeff did may have been unilateral, but it is now an avenue that South Africa is willing to explore. Even when we were doing damage control after your story, the discussion centred around how we can get a positive outcome out of this.”
The committee apparently met after the article was published in November last year and decided to use the return of the money or the sale of arms to appease the new government of Nigeria after the elections.
“After the story, they had to regroup and say: ‘How do we deal with this situation?’ You cannot let it hang forever; you must find a way to conclude it in a way that will satisfy both sides,” the source said.
Zuma has apparently been briefed by ministers who serve on the committee and has warmed to the idea. Efforts to get comment from Zuma’s spokesperson Mac Maharaj and from Radebe were unsuccessful.
Improved relations
Relations between Nigeria and South Africa have not been at their best, particularly between the Zuma and Jonathan administrations.
“[By returning this money] you get friendship, loyalty and an opportunity where he [Buhari] is willing to work with us to lead the continent and speak with one voice.
“Instead of Nigeria second-guessing us all the time, we will compare notes and stop fighting for things like the United Nations Security Council seat that’s not even permanent,” the source said.
“Nigeria is a strategic country that South Africa cannot ignore. It’s a big market. It’s possible South African companies make more money in Nigeria than in South Africa.”
When Buhari took on Jonathan in last month’s elections, Pretoria was already positioning itself for refreshed relations with Abuja.[/b]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:38pm On Jun 28, 2015
[size=25]Once the strikes in the mining sector can come to an end. Job creation will increase and GDP will grow steeply. It will also help to include valuation of mines stock in the GDP.[/size]



http://www.moneyweb.co.za/uncategorized/investors-shun-worlds-richest-mineral-store-in-sa/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m):
lezz:
Bros, abeg, we no be mate in any sphere of human awareness!!! Oya read:[b] A South African newspaper, The Mail & Guardian, reported on Friday that South Africa had begun to work out the process of returning more than R100-million in Nigerian money that it confiscated last year, or clearing the way to sell arms to the West African country.
The Mail and Guardian through diplomatic sources informed that South Africa has begun talks to work out a process to return the money in an effort to start off on a clean slate with the recently elected government of the Nigerian president-elect, Muhammadu Buhari.
South African law enforcement agencies seized $15-million in two batches: $5.7-million that had been wired to Standard Bank and $9.3-million in cash, which was confiscated. It was brought into the country through Lanseria airport in Johannesburg in three suitcases by a delegation said to represent the Nigerian government. In both cases, the money was suspected to be for illegal use.

*President Zuma
Now South Africa wants to use the money to extend an olive branch to Buhari’s government and mend relations between the two countries, which became strained during the tenure of outgoing president Goodluck Jonathan.
“The positive thing about [Buhari] is that one of the people who supported him is Atiku Abubakar. That makes him our man and he will automatically work well with [President Jacob] Zuma,” a government source said.
Close connection
Abubakar is close to Zuma. He was Nigeria’s vice president during the presidency of Olusegun Obasanjo, at the time when Zuma was Thabo Mbeki’s deputy.
“Also, this man [Buhari] is a [retired] military general. It is true that the military needs some beefing up to fight Boko Haram and we should help,” the source added.
So how will Nigeria know that it stands to benefit from an otherwise controversial transaction that had exacerbated tensions between the two countries?
Explained the government source: “Diplomatically you send a signal. Obviously they will have to make a request once they receive a positive signal, but the request will just be an official step to finalising the transaction.”
Buhari is due to take over the leadership of the country after winning the recent elections. Formal talks have not yet begun but South Africa has apparently started sending “positive signals” through its diplomats in Nigeria and to the Nigerian embassy in Pretoria.
Diplomatically favourable
To ensure that the process of returning the money or regularising the sale of arms looks as
clean as possible, the Hawks investigation will continue, the source said, but will be managed politically to reach a conclusion that is diplomatically favourable.
“One way is to make the investigators say: ‘Yes, a law has been broken, but it’s true that the government [of Nigeria] is the owner of that money and genuinely wanted to buy arms legally. They might have flouted the rules, but it’s a genuine transaction.’ [We will say] this money does not come from dirty hands or rebels or arms dealers,” the source said.
“We will find a way to regularise the transaction and either return the money or give them arms.”
Nigeria wanted to buy arms such as helicopters and ammunition to strengthen its fight against Islamic extremist group Boko Haram.
Last year, the M&G reported that the head of the national conventional arms control committee, Jeff Radebe, who is also the minister in the presidency, was blamed by his colleagues in government for taking a unilateral decision to try to regularise the sale of arms to Nigeria to facilitate the release of bodies of South Africans who were killed when the TB Joshua church building collapsed in Nigeria.
At the time, Radebe denied it and said the committee had met in October and decided to propose unlocking the Nigerian arms trade.
‘Bona fide error’
The M&G quoted from two letters that Radebe had written to JP “Torie” Pretorius of the Hawks and Dumisani Dladla, the head of the arms control committee’s secretariat, in which he said the failed attempt on September 5 to pay an arms dealer in South Africa “was, in fact, a legitimate requirement from the government of Nigeria”. “Although the required administrative processes were not adhered to at the time, the government of South Africa deems it a bona fide error,” he wrote.
This week a government source told the M&G: “What Jeff did may have been unilateral, but it is now an avenue that South Africa is willing to explore. Even when we were doing damage control after your story, the discussion centred around how we can get a positive outcome out of this.”
The committee apparently met after the article was published in November last year and decided to use the return of the money or the sale of arms to appease the new government of Nigeria after the elections.
“After the story, they had to regroup and say: ‘How do we deal with this situation?’ You cannot let it hang forever; you must find a way to conclude it in a way that will satisfy both sides,” the source said.
Zuma has apparently been briefed by ministers who serve on the committee and has warmed to the idea. Efforts to get comment from Zuma’s spokesperson Mac Maharaj and from Radebe were unsuccessful.
Improved relations
Relations between Nigeria and South Africa have not been at their best, particularly between the Zuma and Jonathan administrations.
“[By returning this money] you get friendship, loyalty and an opportunity where he [Buhari] is willing to work with us to lead the continent and speak with one voice.
“Instead of Nigeria second-guessing us all the time, we will compare notes and stop fighting for things like the United Nations Security Council seat that’s not even permanent,” the source said.
“Nigeria is a strategic country that South Africa cannot ignore. It’s a big market. It’s possible South African companies make more money in Nigeria than in South Africa.”
When Buhari took on Jonathan in last month’s elections, Pretoria was already positioning itself for refreshed relations with Abuja.[/b]
Now that you have become poor, it is only for the best that SA must give you back your money.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MduZA: 1:58pm On Jun 28, 2015
lezz:
Bros, abeg, we no be mate in any sphere of human awareness!!! Oya read:[b] A South African newspaper, The Mail & Guardian, reported on Friday that South Africa had begun to work out the process of returning more than R100-million in Nigerian money that it confiscated last year, or clearing the way to sell arms to the West African country.
The Mail and Guardian through diplomatic sources informed that South Africa has begun talks to work out a process to return the money in an effort to start off on a clean slate with the recently elected government of the Nigerian president-elect, Muhammadu Buhari.
South African law enforcement agencies seized $15-million in two batches: $5.7-million that had been wired to Standard Bank and $9.3-million in cash, which was confiscated. It was brought into the country through Lanseria airport in Johannesburg in three suitcases by a delegation said to represent the Nigerian government. In both cases, the money was suspected to be for illegal use.

*President Zuma
Now South Africa wants to use the money to extend an olive branch to Buhari’s government and mend relations between the two countries, which became strained during the tenure of outgoing president Goodluck Jonathan.
“The positive thing about [Buhari] is that one of the people who supported him is Atiku Abubakar. That makes him our man and he will automatically work well with [President Jacob] Zuma,” a government source said.
Close connection
Abubakar is close to Zuma. He was Nigeria’s vice president during the presidency of Olusegun Obasanjo, at the time when Zuma was Thabo Mbeki’s deputy.
“Also, this man [Buhari] is a [retired] military general. It is true that the military needs some beefing up to fight Boko Haram and we should help,” the source added.
So how will Nigeria know that it stands to benefit from an otherwise controversial transaction that had exacerbated tensions between the two countries?
Explained the government source: “Diplomatically you send a signal. Obviously they will have to make a request once they receive a positive signal, but the request will just be an official step to finalising the transaction.”
Buhari is due to take over the leadership of the country after winning the recent elections. Formal talks have not yet begun but South Africa has apparently started sending “positive signals” through its diplomats in Nigeria and to the Nigerian embassy in Pretoria.
Diplomatically favourable
To ensure that the process of returning the money or regularising the sale of arms looks as
clean as possible, the Hawks investigation will continue, the source said, but will be managed politically to reach a conclusion that is diplomatically favourable.
“One way is to make the investigators say: ‘Yes, a law has been broken, but it’s true that the government [of Nigeria] is the owner of that money and genuinely wanted to buy arms legally. They might have flouted the rules, but it’s a genuine transaction.’ [We will say] this money does not come from dirty hands or rebels or arms dealers,” the source said.
“We will find a way to regularise the transaction and either return the money or give them arms.”
Nigeria wanted to buy arms such as helicopters and ammunition to strengthen its fight against Islamic extremist group Boko Haram.
Last year, the M&G reported that the head of the national conventional arms control committee, Jeff Radebe, who is also the minister in the presidency, was blamed by his colleagues in government for taking a unilateral decision to try to regularise the sale of arms to Nigeria to facilitate the release of bodies of South Africans who were killed when the TB Joshua church building collapsed in Nigeria.
At the time, Radebe denied it and said the committee had met in October and decided to propose unlocking the Nigerian arms trade.
‘Bona fide error’
The M&G quoted from two letters that Radebe had written to JP “Torie” Pretorius of the Hawks and Dumisani Dladla, the head of the arms control committee’s secretariat, in which he said the failed attempt on September 5 to pay an arms dealer in South Africa “was, in fact, a legitimate requirement from the government of Nigeria”. “Although the required administrative processes were not adhered to at the time, the government of South Africa deems it a bona fide error,” he wrote.
This week a government source told the M&G: “What Jeff did may have been unilateral, but it is now an avenue that South Africa is willing to explore. Even when we were doing damage control after your story, the discussion centred around how we can get a positive outcome out of this.”
The committee apparently met after the article was published in November last year and decided to use the return of the money or the sale of arms to appease the new government of Nigeria after the elections.
“After the story, they had to regroup and say: ‘How do we deal with this situation?’ You cannot let it hang forever; you must find a way to conclude it in a way that will satisfy both sides,” the source said.
Zuma has apparently been briefed by ministers who serve on the committee and has warmed to the idea. Efforts to get comment from Zuma’s spokesperson Mac Maharaj and from Radebe were unsuccessful.
Improved relations
Relations between Nigeria and South Africa have not been at their best, particularly between the Zuma and Jonathan administrations.
“[By returning this money] you get friendship, loyalty and an opportunity where he [Buhari] is willing to work with us to lead the continent and speak with one voice.
“Instead of Nigeria second-guessing us all the time, we will compare notes and stop fighting for things like the United Nations Security Council seat that’s not even permanent,” the source said.
“Nigeria is a strategic country that South Africa cannot ignore. It’s a big market. It’s possible South African companies make more money in Nigeria than in South Africa.”
When Buhari took on Jonathan in last month’s elections, Pretoria was already positioning itself for refreshed relations with Abuja.[/b]
as a south African I will never boost about foreign companies making more money in my country than in their own country....JZ said it all,Nigeria is our big market ...exploitation continues!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 2:03pm On Jun 28, 2015
mzilakazi:
Tell me your unemployment rate first.
aawww u u just acted like a girl right now
Our unemployment rate is 24.2% - 1st quarter 2015...

NOW FOR THE SIXTH TIME... what is your unemployment rate... After promising you that I wasn't going 2 use it against u, u are still SCARED to type it.... coming from someone who has being sprewing things about Nigeria since....
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