eaglechild:

I don't know where you got your population stats from but Enugu state has an estimated population of about 3.26million with a density of 460/sqKm, while Enugu city has an estimated population of 722, 000 with a density of 17, 000/sqKm.

What i'm simply trying to make you realise is why your analogy is flawed. Abakpa and Emene are more densely populated hence road construction there will impact more lives than it would in the rural area both in economic and social terms.

Of course like I said earlier I believe the government should be able to handle rehabilitation of Obollo Afor roads, but in a situation where they have to choose we all know where the priority lies.

From saying people don't live in the rural areas, you shifted position to more people live in the capital, that was also proven to be false, now you've moved to population density. Like I said, you would soon expose that bigotry you are hiding behind failed logic like your colleague did. I don't know why you keep mentioning that imaginary situation where the govt has to choose, they don't have to choose anything, I insist that Ugwuanyi cannot work on only Emene and Abakpa roads for the next 4 years, he must be able to uplift a good number of roads in the rural areas of Enugu. The reason why Lagos is a model state today is today is because development is spread across the length and breadth of the state.

I won't be saying all this if Enugu city is in a mess, but it is not. Chime spent 8 years upgrading the city, all that is left is one or 2 roads and regular maintenance of the ones in good condition. So tell me why the present government can't put a little more focus on the rural areas which are in a terrible mess for the greater good of the state? Why can't we have our own Lagos instead of going to drag the place with the owners all the time?

ZeroTolerance, Ugwuanyi may have decided to placate you. I know it isn't Obollo Afor yet, but it is something.

The Catholic Bishop of Nsukka Diocese, Most Rev. Prof. Godfrey Onah, has urged Governor Ifeanyi Ugwuanyi of Enugu State to be focused in handling the affairs of the State, bearing in mind that he was being surrounded by wolves.

Governor Ugwuanyi, who had played host to a delegation led by the Bishop used the occasion to announce the list of 12 persons appointed to serve in the Nsukka Urban Renewal Committee to modernize the university town.

It was an occasion during which the clergyman and former vice rector of the Pontifical Urban University, Rome, warned the governor against the antics of deceitful hangers-on, while urging him not to lose his well-known trade mark of disarming humility...

http://dailypost.ng/2015/07/02/you-are-in-the-midst-of-wolves-nsukka-catholic-bishop-cautions-enugu-governor/

Governor Ugwuanyi told his visitors made up of members of the clergy, the laity and the Diaspora of the diocese that the decision of the his
administration to set up the urban renewal committee for Nsukka was to begin the fulfillment of part of his promises contained in his
inaugural address, during which he had said the university deserved
such a facelift to bring it in tandem with other un university towns elsewhere in Nigeria and beyond.

The committee headed by renowned architect and former commissioner for Works in the state, Mr. Chris Ofor, and also parades other professionals like surveyors and engineers would soon be inaugurated, the governor told his elated visitors.

They also include the two members representing Nsukka Local Government Area in Enugu State House of Assembly while the state
director of Lands would serve as the secretary of the committee.

He explained to the delegation that Enugu State Government has commenced actions in sourcing other ways of raising its Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) to forestall the grave dangers posed by the
present economic downturn occasioned by the glut in the global oil industry.


“Here in Enugu State, our administration is already looking inwards with a view to sourcing other ways of raising our internal generated
revenue to enable us to deliver on our electoral promises”, he stated.

The governor expressed happiness that the bishop led a high-powered delegation made of representatives from across all key groups and
segments of the Catholic Diocese of Nsukka to visit him.

He described the visit as a show of solidarity that gives his administration a huge moral boost at this early period, adding that he would strive to deliver good governance to the people of the state as a payback gesture in view of their support for him.

On the Bishop’s counsel, he urged the governor not to be deceived by the pecks of his office but to always be wise as a serpent in carrying out his duties, saying “Your Excellency, do not be deceived by the paraphernalia of office around you. We are aware of your vulnerability. You are, indeed, like a sheep in the midst of hungry wolves”.

But the clergyman also had words of encouragement thus: “Do not be afraid; be confident as God who started this work with you will bring it to conclusion.”

Blame Jonathan for Aregbesola’s inability to pay salaries – APC
They had also come with ecclesiastical gifts for
the governor and his wife, Monica.

I'm sure Spyder880 will be interested to know Ugwuanyi has a wife, and her name is Monica. Heh heh heh.

cjrane:
Everything boils down to good planning.
Chime has already demonstrated that even the poorest revenue allocated state like Enugu, can plan well and still perform better than the highest revenue allocated states.

Enugu can continue to develop as well as Nsukka. They should start with major roads in Nsukka. You don't have to do everything immediately, but use good quality contractors such as Arab contractors to ensure every project completed is of the highest world class quality.

Ugwuanyi in his inaugural speech spoke about developing Emene - 9th mile area as Enugu's free trade and industrial zone. Of course he can lay the ground work for this by planning the area to the highest international standard. Demarcating areas for new residential estates, industrial zone and recreational parks within this huge expanse of land. Then begin to attract industrialists to buy plots in the industrial zone and property developers as Spyder to develop new housing estates in the residential part.
Once people know the whole place is planned like Obodo oyibo standard and government opens up the first feeder roads and electricity lines even if the roads are not tarred, those industrialists and property developers will come. Especially in this day and age when Igbos are looking for great industrial layouts to relocate or set up a new investment in the east.

So, the first step is to make a solid modern plan and then follow the plan a little each year based on availability of funds. In the picture below, several areas were earmarked for "future development". Which means, the government can acquire the area and then develop small portions of it in phases.

@bolded, that's what is evidently lacking in our system of governance. We hardly engage in mega plan or project just because we want projects started and completed within one's tenure just to take credit. The day we discard this selfish-gain oriented projects and policies for a more collective approach is the day we move faster in this country.
Our continuity is still primitive. if for instance Ideke had won in Enugu, the centenary city, the only mega project in Enugu state [ a project for Enugu state not for Chime] would have gone down the drain. I hope it doesn't get abandoned even under a PDP government, after all Chime never talked about the Enugu International Conference Centre not to think of completing it.

Even before ifeanyi assumed office, most posters here agreed he needs to focus more on rural Enugu, Education particularly primary and secondary, and Health especially primary healthcare. But to say Nsukka should be developed at the expense of other towns is not right. No matter what I may gain from that, it wouldn't make me agree it's right. That clannishness is a trend in our governance doesn't make it right. That's why I posted earlier that corrupt practices has eaten us deep that we tend to accept them as right.

Just for the records. Ifeanyi is not even from Nsukka as a town or Local government area, he is from Orba in Udenu local government area.

ZeroTolerance:
I won't be saying all this if Enugu city is in a mess, but it is not. Chime spent 8 years upgrading the city, all that is left is one or 2 roads and regular maintenance of the ones in good condition. So tell me why the present government can't put a little more focus on the rural areas which are in a terrible mess for the greater good of the state? Why can't we have our own Lagos instead of going to drag the place with the owners all the time?

centje:
Even before ifeanyi assumed office, most posters here agreed he needs to focus more on rural Enugu, Education particularly primary and secondary, and Health especially primary healthcare. But to say Nsukka should be developed at the expense of other towns is not right. No matter what I may gain from that, it wouldn't make me agree it's right. That clannishness is a trend in our governance doesn't make it right. That's why I posted earlier that corrupt practices has eaten us deep that we tend to accept them as right.

Just for the records. Ifeanyi is not even from Nsukka as a town or Local government area, he is from Orba in Udenu local government area.

What does this have to with my post? Where did I suggest what you are claiming? Orba is even worse. I will post pictures of the roads there one of these days. BTW, Orba is widely accepted as part of Nsukka zone though in a different LGA.

passion007:
ZeroTolerance, Ugwuanyi may have decided to placate you. I know it isn't Obollo Afor yet, but it is something.




http://dailypost.ng/2015/07/02/you-are-in-the-midst-of-wolves-nsukka-catholic-bishop-cautions-enugu-governor/

Nice one.

Innoson now has a show room in Enugu, close to the stadium. I will take pictures another time.

ZeroTolerance:
Where did you discuss the government wanting people to urbanize? Everywhere governments try to reduce rural - urban migration by trying to provide basic social amenities that make rural areas more conducive for living. What you wrote is completely wrong.

Serious govts encourage urbanization. Nigeria being a clueless third world country will rather let things remain rural because of their mental shortcoming. No developed country has a higher rural dwelling. even chinese rural urban migration is at lightning speed and they keep up by building new cities.

ZeroTolerance:
From saying people don't live in the rural areas, you shifted position to more people live in the capital, that was also proven to be false, now you've moved to population density. Like I said, you would soon expose that bigotry you are hiding behind failed logic like your colleague did. I don't know why you keep mentioning that imaginary situation where the govt has to choose, they don't have to choose anything, I insist that Ugwuanyi cannot work on only Emene and Abakpa roads for the next 4 years, he must be able to uplift a good number of roads in the rural areas of Enugu. The reason why Lagos is a model state today is today is because development is spread across the length and breadth of the state.

Ugwuanyi has said he will focus on Enugu, Nsukka and Ninthmile which in my opinion is the way to go rather than promising to develop every village

Ina.

Unemadu:


Serious govts encourage urbanization. Nigeria being a clueless third world country will rather let things remain rural because of their mental shortcoming. No developed country has a higher rural dwelling. even chinese rural urban migration is at lightning speed and they keep up by building new cities.

Do you realise how big China is? Enugu as a whole is not as big as one small city in Ch

Unemadu:

Ugwuanyi has said he will focus on Enugu, Nsukka and Ninthmile which in my opinion is the way to go rather than promising to develop every village

He was being realistic with the revenue outlay at his disposal.

double post

Unemadu:

Ugwuanyi has said he will focus on Enugu, Nsukka and Ninthmile which in my opinion is the way to go rather than promising to develop every village

Of course anything to generate revenue for the state is acceptable. But remember people in the villages still deserve basic ammenities too. Hospitals(primary healthcare), portable water, source of income(agriculture), schools etc.
They don't actually have to wait till enugu turns to Paris before they get these basic things.
A balance needs to be struck.....the poor man has waited for his turn since Enugu was created and he is still waiting.

Kcinho:

Of course anything to generate revenue for the state is acceptable. But remember people in the villages still deserve basic ammenities too. Hospitals(primary healthcare), portable water, source of income(agriculture), schools etc.
They don't actually have to wait till enugu turns to Paris before they get these basic things.
A balance needs to be struck.....the poor man has waited for his turn since Enugu was created and he is still waiting.

If you think many of the people living in the villages are poor, better think again. My old auntie surprised everyone last year when she gave her son up to 100k + to add to his business. We were all shocked as she doesn't look as she has any penny.
These people don't buy many things, don't pay rents or taxes.

spyder880:


If you think many of the people living in the villages are poor, better think again. My old auntie surprised everyone last year when she gave her son up to 100k + to add to his business. We were all shocked as she doesn't look as she has any penny.
These people don't buy many things, don't pay rents or taxes.

So because your aunt was able to provide 100k + for her son, therefore everyone in the rural areas in the state can also do same.
I wonder what else is causing the rural-urban migration if not poverty and the quest for greener pasture.
The rural residents also deserve basic ammenities whether they have 100k or are paupers.
Nobody said the government should build teaching hospitals And shopping malls in villages.
And yes I still stand on a balance between urban and rural development.

ZeroTolerance:
What does this have to with my post? Where did I suggest what you are claiming? Orba is even worse. I will post pictures of the roads there one of these days. BTW, Orba is widely accepted as part of Nsukka zone though in a different LGA.

sharrap! Can't you just smell what your shovelling?
So because there are bad roads at oba and ubollo then the govnor should divert the state funds to work on only Nsukka. am sure you will support only Nsukka development for 8 years.

ZeroTolerance:
I won't be saying all this if Enugu city is in a mess, but it is not. Chime spent 8 years upgrading the city, all that is left is one or 2 roads and regular maintenance of the ones in good condition. So tell me why the present government can't put a little more focus on the rural areas which are in a terrible mess for the greater good of the state? Why can't we have our own Lagos instead of going to drag the place with the owners all the time?

You are jst too clannish for my liking. So Enugu state should be moved to Nsukka just because chime worked in Enugu for eight years abi? Be care ful o.

ZeroTolerance:
I won't be saying all this if Enugu city is in a mess, but it is not. Chime spent 8 years upgrading the city, all that is left is one or 2 roads and regular maintenance of the ones in good condition. So tell me why the present government can't put a little more focus on the rural areas which are in a terrible mess for the greater good of the state? Why can't we have our own Lagos instead of going to drag the place with the owners all the time?

You talk as if Chime has anything against developing Nsukka without realizing that the situation of Nsukka is being experienced by other small towns in Enugu and all over the country, which to me is quite unfortunate. As much as Nsukka is the second most important city after Enugu, it is imperative to note that due to the constant quest for our leaders to keep developing the urban and neglecting the rural, they would rather develop the rural that is closer to Enugu than those that are far off. For instance, they will rather develop other parts of Nkanu like rural Amaechi, Obeagu and Akegbe Ugwu, all in Awkunanaw than develop Nsukka. It's just an unfortunate commentary on what we understand by development and how we don't seem to spread development because we want to create something out of the world in one spot, probably for bragging rights whereas other parts of the state with it's people are neglected. What i have always proposed is the American model whereby, anhywhere that looks an inch like a town should have a mayor that will be saddled with the responsibility of developing their city alone. But come to think of it, we have Local government chairmen that are supposed to be working in the same capacity as a mayor and i keep wondering what they are doing. is it that the funds are not coming or they are not enough or these people are just uber thieves who get money from the center and share it among themselves.

spyder880:


If you think many of the people living in the villages are poor, better think again. My old auntie surprised everyone last year when she gave her son up to 100k + to add to his business. We were all shocked as she doesn't look as she has any penny.
These people don't buy many things, don't pay rents or taxes.

With all due respect spyder...your aunt is in the minority
They are poor
One of my numerous past times is having fantasies of how to help people in my village
Borehole? Pay school fees? Buy food items? Clothing?
I pray to have money to change peoples' lives....
Instead of buying the latest gadgets
My life would feel richer

WarriPikin1:
O'l boy, i watched the whole 9 videos on youtube. Enugu is beautiful o'jare!
The Governor, Chime is really working. They just have to take aesthetics seriously. If Enugu roads had more trees and flowers especially in the median,the city will be totally transformed.

Those who used to know Kigali,Rwanda will attest to how proper use of flowers and ornamental palm and other trees especially planted in the median and around the roads have transformed it from a rural dusty town into a beautiful garden city.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlCHXRO_Vk4

I was going back this tread to review all we had been discussing all these years and stumbled upon this.
Do we remember this video?
I wonder how far if Enugu was changed since those advocates for planting trees along our roads to transform our environment posted it as a good example from Rwanda.

I still like those palm trees in their median.

Ckenneths, Igboson et al ... where una dey

centje:


@bolded, that's what is evidently lacking in our system of governance. We hardly engage in mega plan or project just because we want projects started and completed within one's tenure just to take credit. The day we discard this selfish-gain oriented projects and policies for a more collective approach is the day we move faster in this country.
Our continuity is still primitive. if for instance Ideke had won in Enugu, the centenary city, the only mega project in Enugu state [ a project for Enugu state not for Chime] would have gone down the drain. I hope it doesn't get abandoned even under a PDP government, after all Chime never talked about the Enugu International Conference Centre not to think of completing it.

Oh boy I love Sullivan but that International Conference Centre is too grand to be abandoned. Where do you see such iconic edifice in Nigeria outside Abuja. I wish Ifeanyi does something about it.

centje:
Even before ifeanyi assumed office, most posters here agreed he needs to focus more on rural Enugu, Education particularly primary and secondary, and Health especially primary healthcare. But to say Nsukka should be developed at the expense of other towns is not right. No matter what I may gain from that, it wouldn't make me agree it's right. That clannishness is a trend in our governance doesn't make it right. That's why I posted earlier that corrupt practices has eaten us deep that we tend to accept them as right.

Just for the records. Ifeanyi is not even from Nsukka as a town or Local government area, he is from Orba in Udenu local government area.

Lol.
They are all in Nsukka zone

biafrandream:



Oh boy I love Sullivan but that International Conference Centre is too grand to be abandoned. Where do you see such iconic edifice in Nigeria outside Abuja. I wish Ifeanyi does something about it.

That building is a legendary icon.
Hope it is completed and put to use soon. Importantly, i hope the interior is brought to true world class International Conference Center standard such as in the third picture.

sadly, right now, all the land meant for hotel and parking space of conference attendees have been poached by land grabbers and houses built on them.

Cjrane2:

That building is a legendary icon.
Hope it is completed and put to use soon. Importantly, i hope the interior is brought to true world class International Conference Center standard such as in the third picture.

sadly, right now, all the land meant for hotel and parking space of conference attendees have been poached by land grabbers and houses built on them.

^^^I wonder why there are no pics of the inside....or a plan at least!

Any land poached should be reclaimed....and if bribe was paid for certain things to be 'overlooked' then that's the problem of the encroacher!

I wrote Nsukka Town not Nsukka zone. Orba is under Udenu, part of Nsukka as a zone but not part of Nsukka as a town.

Take a look at the map again. The yellow part is Nsukka zone.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2580131_img20150701194359edit_jpegba790c62d6c0eaa026df938c1ed5f5ed

InyinyaAgbaOku:

Lol.
They are all in Nsukka zone

centje:
I wrote Nsukka Town not Nsukka zone. Orba is under Udenu, part of Nsukka as a zone but not part of Nsukka as a town.

Take a look at the map again. The yellow part is Nsukka zone.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2580131_img20150701194359edit_jpegba790c62d6c0eaa026df938c1ed5f5ed

Alright

spyder880:
I love this state, and the towns that make up the state. I dont know if I will ever like to live anywhere else but Enugu, the way of life of the citizens of Enugu seems to be the best in the country.

Enugu people are very accomodating, hardworking and yet humble. We have everything here and yes, Enugu is working.

In this thread, I will try to change the perception of people about how bad or negative Nigeria is, lets start from where we are. I expect everyone to do something, lets stop the negativity for a while and focus on our positives. There are more good things in Nigeria than bad. You only need to look for it and see it.

I will flood this thread with so many pictures that people will complain, I have about 150 pictures loaded (more will be added this new week), I am ready to paste them here but I will post those in the evening, many towns were covered, many of our landmarks are here. The good, the moderately good and the terrible.

But let me just be posting and typing words for now, explaining some facts about Enugu.

Gerrout of here, where re d f**king pictures
I rep Somali

Cjrane2:

That building is a legendary icon.
Hope it is completed and put to use soon. Importantly, i hope the interior is brought to true world class International Conference Center standard such as in the third picture.

sadly, right now, all the land meant for hotel and parking space of conference attendees have been poached by land grabbers and houses built on them.

Is this the interior?

Independence layout Enugu