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EVarn:
UKRAINE CONFIRMS SALES OF MILITARY HARDWARE TO NIGERIA- INCLUDING MBTs,IFVs,AND A FEW ATTACK HELICOPTERS

when are you going to make your own?

Patchesagain:
1. South Africa is a NIC - just google it

2. As usual Henry120 tries to racialize the issue

And in terms of poverty and unemployment,

We have 9.4% of our population living in poverty
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/ZAF

with 26% unemployment
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/south-africa/unemployment-rate

While Nigeria has 62% of its population living in poverty
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/NGA

And an unemployment rate of 24%
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/unemployment-rate

Thus, not only do we have lower levels of poverty, there are more allmost more unemployed Nigerians than there are South Africans

On race, it is a fact of life. You cannot wish racial inequality away in South-Africa.

On Poverty in South-Africa

South Africa: Where 12 million live in extreme poverty

Last year, the World Bank gave South Africa a good story tell. It released a report that said due to South Africa's “slightly progressive” tax system and “highly progressive” government spending, around 3.6 million people have been lifted out of poverty, halving the number of South Africans living on less than $1.25 a day. Because of grants, free basic services and taxes favouring the poor, the poverty rate dropped from 46.2% to 39%.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-02-03-south-africa-where-12-million-live-in-extreme-poverty/#.VZvnfmpMVxs


Nigeria

Poverty: 33.1%
Unemployment : 24 %

South-Africa

Poverty: 39%
Unemployment: 26.40%

andrewza:
Our own power is being imported back. We have a set contract to give x amount and we buying x back.

I have not had a load shedding in months.

importing your power back? Interpreted: south Africa can't generate enough power for its own domestic use.

vandalZA:
lol 100 south Africans going to Nigeria not because of poverty but to connect with god compared to over 1million Nigerian going to south Africa because of poverty and better life....you should get the point if you are not mentally ill.! #DUMMY

1. Only 100 South Africans travel to Nigeria ? All that huge Southie crowd in TB and Chris' churces ? Only 100 ? Citation needed

2. A whole 1 million Nigerians live in South Africa? 1 million? Citation needed.

3. Thanks for admitting that the Devil rules South Africa so your people need to come to Nigeria to find God. Where the devil is, is hell on earth, where God is, is heaven on earth. You admit that South Africa is hell, and Nigeria is your people's heaven on earth
.

Henry120:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/dangote-group-honeywell-others-generate-15-000mw-captive-power/176725/

The truth is, I don't think they produce more power than us.

Yes, they do produce more power from the Grid than Nigeria, but interms of total captive power generated in each countries, the difference isn't much.

Dude!! Should we then count all the privately generated power in SA too? All Small to Large businesses as well as most households in Urban areas have privately generated power...Hell even on my parents farm they have a generator!!

Henry120:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/dangote-group-honeywell-others-generate-15-000mw-captive-power/176725/

The truth is, I don't think they produce more power than us.

Yes, they do produce more power from the Grid than Nigeria, but interms of total captive power generated in each countries, the difference isn't much.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_production .#facts only

jln115:
Tell me what peaceful Nigeria was doing in 143rd in 2007 or 147th in 2008 or 144th in 2010?

boko Hiram have raged for about 6 years Now.

Now give me a GPI source of 2007 about Nigeria's rating please.

andrewza:
Since when is a MPA a AWAC now+

You missed a lot on this thread. NAF ATR-42 has been proved to be MPA + ISTAR + AWACS
.

jln115:
Dude!! Should we then count all the privately generated power in SA too? All Small to Large businesses as well as most households in Urban areas have privately generated power...Hell even on my parents farm they have a generator!!

Power generation in Nigeria is divided into 3.

Government Generated power

IPP (Independent power produces)

Household generated power.

At peak periods the Government produces 6,000MW of power.

Heavy industries like Dangote, Honeywell, General Electric, Telecommunications /ICT providers, Construction companies, Automobile Assembly and spare parts manufactures, Banks& insurance firms, Ship builders and OIL & Gas industry, Cement manufacturers, large scale furniture manufactures, Electrical parts/Transfomers/electronics manufactures all etc etc all fall under Independent Power Producers. These group of people produce 15,000MW of power.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/dangote-group-honeywell-others-generate-15-000mw-captive-power/176725/


Household generated power, there are 170 million Nigerians, with 80% of all Nigerian households generating additional power for their homes and Smes. The amount of power these set of people generate is not recorded, however given their sheer size, they generate between 8000- 10,000mw of additional power

Henry120:
Power generation in Nigeria is divided into 3.

Government Generated power

IPP (Independent power produces)

Household generated power.

At peak periods the Government produces 6,000MW of power.

Heavy industries like Dangote, Honeywell, General Electric, Telecommunications /ICT providers, Construction companies, Automobile Assembly and spare parts manufactures, Banks& insurance firms, Ship builders and OIL & Gas industry, Cement manufacturers, large scale furniture manufactures, Electrical parts/Transfomers/electronics manufactures all etc etc all fall under Independent Power Producers. These group of people produce 15,000MW of power.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/dangote-group-honeywell-others-generate-15-000mw-captive-power/176725/


Household generated power, there are 170 million Nigerians, with 80% of all Nigerian households generating additional power for their homes and Smes. The amount of power these set of people generate is not recorded, however given their sheer size, they generate between 8000- 10,000mw of additional power

OK? So we should count privately generated power in SA?

Patchesagain:
you are lower than us dipshit

That means you have somehow reached the bottom of the bottomless po0l of sh11t

it means south Africa is perpetually at war. It means south Africa doesn't know the difference between peace and war.

We're looking forward to ending boko haram. South Africa is looking forward to a myriad of the worse blend of social maladjustment

MduZA:
when are you going to make your own?

Contrary to what you may believe,producing military hardware isnt as simple as boiling noodles.How ironic for you to continue puffing vigorously into a vuvuzela about Nigeria's fledgling defense industry,when all the hardwares you have ever made are failures of catastrophic magnitude: rooivalk,oliphant,cobra,Denel seeker suv. drone etc...
At least we dont cloak a french land cruiser with armour and pass it off as an indigenous IFV{like a country we all know}.

lezz:
boko Hiram have raged for about 6 years Now.

Now give me a GPI source of 2007 about Nigeria's rating please.

Seems like i made a mistake with 2007 rating! But are you sure you want to see it because its even worse!!

jln115:
OK? So we should count privately generated power in SA?

Present the figures.

jln115:
Seems like i made a mistake with 2007 rating! But are you sure you want to see it because its even worse!!

show your hand.

Nothing could be more laughable than a "developed" country with a peaceful atmosphere ranking 122nd worse place to live.

Henry120:
On race, it is a fact of life. You cannot wish racial inequality away in South-Africa.

On Poverty in South-Africa

South Africa: Where 12 million live in extreme poverty

Last year, the World Bank gave South Africa a good story tell. It released a report that said due to South Africa's “slightly progressive” tax system and “highly progressive” government spending, around 3.6 million people have been lifted out of poverty, halving the number of South Africans living on less than $1.25 a day. Because of grants, free basic services and taxes favouring the poor, the poverty rate dropped from 46.2% to 39%.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-02-03-south-africa-where-12-million-live-in-extreme-poverty/#.VZvnfmpMVxs


Nigeria

Poverty: 33.1%
Unemployment : 24 %

South-Africa

Poverty: 39%
Unemployment: 26.40%

World Bank puts the figures at 9% for RSA and over 60% for South Africa

agaugust:
You missed a lot on this thread. NAF ATR-42 has been proved to be MPA + ISTAR + AWACS
.

I don't think you know what a AWAC is. It's not a radar in the sky. It a complete system.

Henry120:
Power generation in Nigeria is divided into 3.

Government Generated power

IPP (Independent power produces)

Household generated power.

At peak periods the Government produces 6,000MW of power.

Heavy industries like Dangote, Honeywell, General Electric, Telecommunications /ICT providers, Construction companies, Automobile Assembly and spare parts manufactures, Banks& insurance firms, Ship builders and OIL & Gas industry, Cement manufacturers, large scale furniture manufactures, Electrical parts/Transfomers/electronics manufactures all etc etc all fall under Independent Power Producers. These group of people produce 15,000MW of power.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/dangote-group-honeywell-others-generate-15-000mw-captive-power/176725/


Household generated power, there are 170 million Nigerians, with 80% of all Nigerian households generating additional power for their homes and Smes. The amount of power these set of people generate is not recorded, however given their sheer size, they generate between 8000- 10,000mw of additional power.

South Africa produces 100X more power than Nigeria

Henry120:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/dangote-group-honeywell-others-generate-15-000mw-captive-power/176725/

The truth is, I don't think they produce more power than us.

Yes, they do produce more power from the Grid than Nigeria, but interms of total captive power generated in each countries, the difference isn't much.

Its 100%

Patchesagain:
World Bank puts the figures at 9% for RSA and over 60% for South Africa

Poverty rate in South-Africa is 39%, with 12 million South-Africans living in extreme poverty.

Henry120:
On Poverty in Nigeria

World Bank Cuts Nigeria's Poverty Rate to 33.1%, Says North is Poorer

22 Jul 2014
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W’Bank 

*Predicts 7.4% growth in 2014
James Emejo 

The World Bank  Tuesday said there had been positive economic trend as well as significant progress made towards poverty eradication in the country.

It said in its second edition of the Nigeria Economic Report (NER) which was launched in Abuja that going by the recent rebasing of the economy as well as analysis from the new General Household Surveys (GHS) conducted by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) with the support of the Bank, new poverty estimates in 2010/2011 and 2012/2013 should be within the range of 35.2 per cent and 33.1 per cent respectively.

Fine

9% and 33%

Henry120:
It doesn't fit into your narrative, but these are the facts.

Take for example, Nigerian cement manufacturers produce 45 million metric tonnes of cement every year, while South-Africa in second place produces 25 million metric tonnes.

Do you think if the country(Nigeria) only produces 6000mw of power, it would be able to achieve that?

Its possible

You just have more impetus on cement production than we do

Patchesagain:
South Africa produces 100X more power than Nigeria

South-Africa produces only a fraction more. Probably 5000MW more.

agaugust:
You missed a lot on this thread. NAF ATR-42 has been proved to be MPA + ISTAR + AWACS
.

The word AWAC is not aparent in your source

Patchesagain:
South Africa produces 100X more power than Nigeria

100X? Can you please recommend the brand of tabac you are smoking?

Henry120:
Poverty rate in South-Africa is 39%, with 12 million South-Africans living in extreme poverty.

Yes, by the South African definition of "poverty"

The world bank definition, that being households that survive on $1 a day, puts the figure at only 9% while your (revised) figure is 33%

EVarn:
100X?
Can you please recommend the brand of tabac you are smoking?

I posted the citation on the last page, click on my name and scroll through my posts, it is there.

Patchesagain:
Its possible

You just have more impetus on cement production than we do

It is not possible.

There are only 4 cement manufacturers in Nigeria. BUA, Larfage, Dangote and Ibeto.

Henry120:
South-Africa produces only a fraction more. Probably 5000MW more.

Factually speaking, we produce 100X more.

Patchesagain:
Yes, by the South African definition of "poverty"

The world bank definition, that being households that survive on $1 a day, puts the figure at only 9% while your (revised) figure is 33%

Nigeria uses a much higher Poverty indicator than any country in Africa.


The report is clear, 39% of South-Africans, and 12 million of your people live in extreme poverty.

Henry120:
It is not possible.

There are only 4 cement manufacturers in Nigeria. BUA, Larfage, Dangote and Ibeto.

Well, according to wiki (well, the sources contained in the article)

Nigeria is the worlds 67th biggest cement manufacturer*

South Africa is the worlds 26th biggest*

*Based off 2008 figures

Patchesagain:
Factually speaking, we produce 100X more.

Factually speaking you don't. Probably 5000 more.