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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by YerYer: 10:55pm On Jul 10, 2015
erico2k2:

let me remind you tax is %20,and there is a threshold,ie minimum you must earn B4 tax kicks in, so I employ you to re do your calculation.

Depends on your state, in New York, the local tax, state tax, federal tax, social security deductions, medicare deductions and disability deductions account for over 30%. If you are single and have no kids well bad luck, they will even deduct more! $200,000 also put you at a higher tax bracket, so you will pay even more! Texas however, has low taxes but their salaries are significantly lower.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by no2fuks(m): 10:57pm On Jul 10, 2015
erico2k2:
nah lie, I was born broke now Im mega howzaaattt? grin grin grin
good 4 u I never said it was impossible tho
so what do you do?
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 10:57pm On Jul 10, 2015
no2fuks:


what are you trying to say I dont understand you

N20 000 Vs. $900 choose one
I thought you meant earning $900 a month
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 10:58pm On Jul 10, 2015
no2fuks:


good 4 u I never said it was impossible tho

so what do you do?
guy where yout sense of humor hide put? grin grin
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by aspirebig: 10:58pm On Jul 10, 2015
Nice one, Op...

But that wont stop people from still travelling.

Things are changing in Naira daily, you pay for Nepa and you will still run gen, have inverter, solar etc, if you can afford them.

Most people pay tax, but they dont enjoy anything in return, no electricity , no good schools, even their prisons in abroad is so fine , well maintained and equipped, good road, no security, no good health services, no good social facilities, so anyway you look at it. Life is still better in abroad than Africa....

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 11:01pm On Jul 10, 2015
YerYer:


Depends on your state, in New York, the local tax, state tax, federal tax, social security deductions, medicare deductions and disability deductions account for over 30%. If you are single and have no kids well bad luck, they will even deduct more! $200,000 also put you at a higher tax bracket, so you will pay even more! Texas however, has low taxes but their salaries are significantly lower.
Hmmm I know, hence I was trying to tell someone on this forum, we earn more in the UK or rather let me rephrase it, we get to keep more of our salary than guys in the US.the tax in the US is way way to much, my tax kicks in from after £11000 ,and I do not pay up to %20,if i earn up to £41000 then my tax is %40, plus ofcos national insurance thats that.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by 9jatatafo(m): 11:03pm On Jul 10, 2015
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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 11:03pm On Jul 10, 2015
usmanspihn:

Bros e be like say u don tey abroad small. Masters in Uk or any other country in MBA having my bsc in mass communication. Is it advisable. If not which do you think is. Plus chances of being retained and obtain working permit
guy to be honest the Uk are introducing new laws that will make life unbearable for guys like you so i will say go to the US or Canada,void the UK.It will take too long to brake even here in the UK.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by tai2(m): 11:03pm On Jul 10, 2015
aspirebig:
Nice one, Op...

But that wont stop people from still travelling.

Things are changing in Naira daily, you pay for Nepa and you will still run gen, have inverter, solar etc, if you can afford them.

Most people pay tax, but they dont enjoy anything in return, no electricity , no good schools, even their prisons in abroad is so fine , well maintained and equipped, good road, no security, no good health services, no good social facilities, so anyway you look at it. Lfe is still better in abroad than Africa....

Life is better abroad agreed but it takes a source of money to enjoy that better life. Without that source of money (job or business), you're in serious trouble and would have been better off staying in Nigeria in the first place.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by no2fuks(m): 11:03pm On Jul 10, 2015
erico2k2:
guy where yout sense of humor hide put? grin grin
lol
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by tai2(m): 11:05pm On Jul 10, 2015
People will carry 4 to 6 million naira to study Masters in the United Kingdom and get sent back after they finish. It was those days it was easier to stay behind in the U.K now everything is tight and the routes that used to work don't work like that anymore.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by no2fuks(m): 11:06pm On Jul 10, 2015
erico2k2:
I thought you meant earning $900 a month
grin never mind
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by YerYer: 11:06pm On Jul 10, 2015
erico2k2:

Hmmm I know, hence I was trying to tell someone on this forum, we earn more in the UK or rather let me rephrase it, we get to keep more of our salary than guys in the US.the tax in the US is way way to much, my tax kicks in from after £11000 ,and I do not pay up to %20,if i earn up to £41000 then my tax is %40, plus ofcos national insurance thats that.

How is it that you keep more of your income lol? I told you the tax rate of the state with the highest tax rate in the country which is New York. Texas and many other states don't have state tax, they only have federal tax rates of like 15%. Moreover, the average engineer in the U.S earns more money than one in the UK. Its the same for most career fields. Ex a fresh pharmacy school graduate in the U.S may have a starting base base pay of $160,000 per annum, can't compare that with the UK.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by aspirebig: 11:10pm On Jul 10, 2015
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Life is better abroad agreed but it takes a source of money to enjoy that better life. Without that source of money (job or business), you're in serious trouble and would have been better off staying in Nigeria in the first place. [/quote

We are saying the same thing, but in naija, your money may even be your greatest undoing.

Kidnappers are everywhere now, no good security, armed robbers , there are many jobless youth that have taken to crime.

People are killed weekly in naija for small amount like #1, 000 or less, imagine, or over any little disagreement.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by tai2(m): 11:12pm On Jul 10, 2015
I would advise anyone who wants to do a Master's degree with the intent of relocating abroad to avoid the United Kingdom. You end of paying the system and they throw you out, go straight ahead and try the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc. It might be more expensive and longer but if you study the right degree and pick up some practical certifications you have a better chance of staying behind, getting more experience and a salary that you can survive with. No be all abroad be abroad. Forget what people say.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by ttmacoy: 11:13pm On Jul 10, 2015
How many of your mates are talking about 200 million. Everyone claims millions on nairaland. You earn 200 million and are on nairaland arguing abroad is bad.

How many people get shot abroad compare to Nigeria. Please check your statistics and compare

Everyone in Nigeria is expecting hundreds of millions. Keep dreaming.


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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by EBIXANDRA(f): 11:17pm On Jul 10, 2015
The Op has said it all, some people have refused to pick my call ever since I told them I was in jand, all the ones wey show me over fine pix no gree make I see where them dey sleep. Hw could an able bodied man leave naija to come and be begging in subway here? Majority of Nigerians here na security and cleaner work, some dey do permanent night shifts sotey wife no fit hold body don vex waka. If I begin open this mouth, even Op write up go be child play for where I dey.

Lemme case my rest here sad

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by tai2(m): 11:25pm On Jul 10, 2015
EBIXANDRA:
The Op has said it all, some people have refused to pick my call ever since I told them I was in jand, all the ones wey show me over fine pix no gree make I see where them dey sleep. Hw could an able bodied man leave naija to come and be begging in subway here? Majority of Nigerians here na security and cleaner work, some dey do permanent night shifts sotey wife no fit hold body don vex waka. If I begin open this mouth, even Op write up go be child play for where I dey.

Lemme case my rest here sad

That is how they do o. You will see some of them once in two years sef. The ones who are successful are trying to avoid the larger population of the unsuccessful ones. The unsuccessful ones are trying to hide from the shame of their conditions. It is best to go to obodo oyibo with a workable plan and to go somewhere profitable, then end up there swallowed by the system.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 11:27pm On Jul 10, 2015
EBIXANDRA:
The Op has said it all, some people have refused to pick my call ever since I told them I was in jand, all the ones wey show me over fine pix no gree make I see where them dey sleep. Hw could an able bodied man leave naija to come and be begging in subway here? Majority of Nigerians here na security and cleaner work, some dey do permanent night shifts sotey wife no fit hold body don vex waka. If I begin open this mouth, even Op write up go be child play for where I dey.

Lemme case my rest here sad
abeg na which country B dat, cos the way I see am some people think say Malaysians nah oyibo

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by unphilaz(m): 11:29pm On Jul 10, 2015
Thanks and noted
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 11:31pm On Jul 10, 2015
YerYer:


How is it that you keep more of your income lol? I told you the tax rate of the state with the highest tax rate in the country which is New York. Texas and many other states don't have state tax, they only have federal tax rates of like 15%. Moreover, the average engineer in the U.S earns more money than one in the UK. Its the same for most career fields. Ex a fresh pharmacy school graduate in the U.S may have a starting base base pay of $160,000 per annum, can't compare that with the UK.
Let me give you an example, if I earn £3000 before tax, I might pay £350 in tax and £180 in national Insurance. that will leave me with £2470 after tax, u get me now,its even better when you have family as you get tax relief.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 11:33pm On Jul 10, 2015
tai2:
People will carry 4 to 6 million naira to study Masters in the United Kingdom and get sent back after they finish. It was those days it was easier to stay behind in the U.K now everything is tight and the routes that used to work don't work like that anymore.
thats true,student unu no come here I don warn unu.hustlers you are more than welcome to come hustle the ground, no venture no success, but if yu don pass 30 years forget am abroad is not for you,times are tuff Oh tongue tongue
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by ttmacoy: 11:34pm On Jul 10, 2015
Not true. If you integrate you will be fine.

Are you saying we ar all first class citizens in Nigeria? With rh way police and army officers beat us on the street like animals. With all the religious and tribal discrimination. With all the way employers treat employees and work seekers. See some job adverts in Nigeria and you wonder where are the labour laws and you talk about third class citizens. Please stop playing that card, the world is a global place and many of these international cities are very diverse and multi cultural


sunnydayasaba:
No matter ur visa status, Ur still a third class citizen..even if u have residency...People still look at u as not part of them.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by lastchild: 11:35pm On Jul 10, 2015
AlphaMoi:
This is rubbish.if this is what you are going through,then wahala dey..altho not so 100°/ . but it isnt as bad as you put it.. But true true job matter no easy
his number 4 is true,I've been to abroad,its lonely there

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 11:39pm On Jul 10, 2015
lastchild:
his number 4 is true,I've been to abroad,its lonely there
nah lie I live abroad and Im not lonely, nah me dey run from friends and family sef, if you hang out with guys who work 23 hours a day what do you expect? grin grin

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by knxpin(m): 11:40pm On Jul 10, 2015
ttmacoy:
How many of your mates are talking about 200 million. Everyone claims millions on nairaland. You earn 200 million and are on nairaland arguing abroad is bad.

How many people get shot abroad compare to Nigeria. Please check your statistics and compare

Everyone in Nigeria is expecting hundreds of millions. Keep dreaming.


Lot of people make that kind of money in Nigeria and Abroad if you are not informed.You need to look around and see .Nairaland.com got people if you don't know.
The governor of my state was on Nairaland the last time he visited united states, He might as well have an account in Nairaland.com .So don't be deceived.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by okonri(m): 11:40pm On Jul 10, 2015
Good point. People listen to wrong information and are led astray. Unfortunate people abroad always try to paint gloomy pictures for newcomers. Do the right things and Europe or US will be heaven for you!

yorubadelta:


This may be true for some.. what I see Nigerians do when they first arrive is to limit themselves and limit their circle, listening to advise from fellow Nigerians who have been here so long with nothing to show for it.

If that qualified banker rolls with the right people who know what they are doing, he would secure a great job without much struggle.

A very close friend of mine became a senior drug safety scientist within 3yrs of arriving the UK.. dude has a 2.2 in microbiology from Onabisi Onabanjo Uni.. no masters, no previous work experience. It was a lady he met in the industry that put him through how to package his cv to get the job.

So you see it not that Nigerian qualifications is looked down upon here.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by knxpin(m): 11:43pm On Jul 10, 2015
ttmacoy:
How many of your mates are talking about 200 million. Everyone claims millions on nairaland. You earn 200 million and are on nairaland arguing abroad is bad.

How many people get shot abroad compare to Nigeria. Please check your statistics and compare

Everyone in Nigeria is expecting hundreds of millions. Keep dreaming.


Lot of people make that kind of money in Nigeria and Abroad if you are not informed.You need to look around and see .Nairaland.com got people if you don't know.
The governor of my state was on Nairaland the last time he visited united states, He might as well have an account in Nairaland.com .So don't be deceived thinking that anyone here is nobody. People wants to get information.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by usmanspihn(m): 11:44pm On Jul 10, 2015
erico2k2:

guy to be honest the Uk are introducing new laws that will make life unbearable for guys like you so i will say go to the US or Canada,void the UK.It will take too long to brake even here in the UK.
Thx. But is MBA still advisable after bsc mass comm irrespective of the country of choice coz I see no reason in mastering in journalism
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by ttmacoy: 11:45pm On Jul 10, 2015
You don't say? $200k when ou mates are making 200 million in Nigerian


YerYer:
I'm glad OP made the distinction between obodo oyinbo and U.S. I'm not here to tell you that there's milk & honey flowing in the U.S or the streets are paved with gold, but I can confidently say you have better opportunities in the U.S than you do in Europe. Like anything in life, good information and the determination to make use of that information will make you very successful. Unfortunately, some Nigerians travel overseas and squander their opportunities. Or their so called relatives in the U.S never guide them because many of them made stupid mistakes by either studying the wrong courses in school or made poor choices ex fathering several babies and being tied to pay child support for many years to mention just a few.

Let me have this on record, if you happen to visit the U.S with a greencard, I can personally guide you towards earning an associate degree under 2-3yrs or bachelors within 4yrs all depends on how much credits you carry over. And if you are hardworking and live in the right state, willing to work overtime, you can easily start making a minimum of $200,000 a year. Look at my other posts, I don't sell ebook or give false hopes. Not every 'obodo oyinbo' is the same.
Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by ttmacoy: 11:47pm On Jul 10, 2015
Yes I know people make such amount both abroad and in Nigeria but he saying $200k in the U.S. Is rubbish when his mates are making 200 million in Nigeria is insinuating everybody who goes to Nigeria will be a millionaire. We all know there are a lot more people suffering in Nigeria that actually earning millions so that argument doesn't hold water.

We all seek for millions with no justification in Nigeria . Quick wuick easy money is the mantra, no one cares how.


knxpin:

Lot of people make that kind of money in Nigeria and Abroad if you are not informed.You need to look around and see .Nairaland.com got people if you don't know.
The governor of my state was on Nairaland the last time he visited united states, He might as well have an account in Nairaland.com .So don't be deceived thinking that anyone here is nobody. People wants to get information.

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Re: The Disadvantages Of Obodo Oyibo Aka Abroad by erico2k2(m): 11:50pm On Jul 10, 2015
usmanspihn:

Thx. But is MBA still advisable after bsc mass comm irrespective of the country of choice coz I see no reason in mastering in journalism
guy to be honest, in todays Economy, you got to engage in something practical,follow your dream as you might just be a good talker that being creative.I studied Mech Engine,Im trying to sturdy civil Engin now cos i recon that where my life is heading.So I say follow your dream and do not give room for no one to kill it.

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