Demmzy15:

I can't address your trash, edit it and quote me so as I can easily refute you!

Easy way out
So you want to come and spew further rubbish here in the name of what?

Its ok stay with your Allahu akbar blood sucking brothers, you owe us no justification (albeit baseless) sad excuse for a life.
kkk religious group. olodo oshi

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Easy way out
So you want to come and spew further rubbish here in the name of what?

So that's why you quoted it like that, so as I can't reply you. For your mind you be boss abi?!

[s]Its ok stay with your Allahu akbar blood sucking brothers,[/s] you owe us no justification (albeit baseless) sad excuse for a life.

I'm not justifying their actions rather I'm condemning them and also distancing their actions from Islam. You refuse to admit the groups I mentioned as Christians despite the fact they get their inspiration from the Bible but you're quick to proclaim boko-are-rams as Muslims! Isn't this hyprocisy?!

kkk religious group. olodo oshi

Yes KKK religious group òmó àlé jati jati!

Demmzy15:

So that's why you quoted it like that, so as I can't reply you. For your mind you be boss abi?!


I'm not justifying their actions rather I'm condemning them and also distancing their actions from Islam. You refuse to admit the groups I mentioned as Christians despite the fact they get their inspiration from the Bible but you're quick to proclaim boko-are-rams as Muslims! Isn't this hyprocisy?!


Yes KKK religious group òmó àlé jati jati!

Iya to bie lomo ni omo ale jati jati olori buruku ko de ni da fun iwo ati e oloshi

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Iya to bie lomo ni omo ale jati jati olori buruku

Iyá Bàbá é ni òmó àlé!

Demmzy15:

Iyá Bàbá é ni òmó àlé!

Iya e oni baba so ko soro
Iwo gan won o mo eni bayi si eni to gba e ni baba

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[s]You think if you ask a senile person he would disprove that he is normal? All and every of your 'facts' are lies. Liar![/s]

Try use your head now oga theres a difference between suicide and murder if your boko brothers were killing themselves alone and allowing others to live in peace you think anyone would be upset with them?

This is just an example, there are many more. He commanded them to kill themsleves because Christ commanded him to do so. If I start presenting atrocities of Christianity, wallahi Harry Potter book go full!

Political party of Allahu Akbar now being a political mantra no longer the very basis for which islam is based abi? Maybe you should stop fasting o the lack of blood sugar to your brain is also depriving you of oxygen there too

Very dry, you can't even refute my points rather you resort to insults! Lol

Shikena or not they kill in the name of your religion, they use the Allahu Akbar as basis to justify their actions last i checked that was an islamic thing, no other i repeat no other religion uses Allahu akbar for anything except yours

During the Lebanese Civil War, Christians were killing Muslims and Druze with crosses on their necks shouting hallelujah! But I guess you'll deny them saying they aren't Christians but you want me to accept that BokoHaramm are Muslims. Ode! They aren't Muslims, final!! !

And since their demise, guess the next thing is for people like you and your kind to now come to forums like this to justify by using excuses rather than condemning their actions, typical.

You asked for one and I provided two now you're saying otherwise. This are just few, there are many more. My position right from the beginning is that they aren't Muslims and their actions can't be attributed to Islam. So for you to say I'm supporting them, is rather dishonesty from your part!

Like Sahara reporters stories concocted and presented no matter how elaborately can never be the truth! you now being the only person alive knowing that christains were eating dead bodies of Muslims all i can say is nice try, however history shows that the second world war was against the Nazi germans who were trying to exert their supremacy and how Hitler hated the jews after after what was said about them in the bible. How the war now involved abubakar teslim and ibrahim that christains were now eating their dead corpses remains a story you should be sharing amongst yourselves when you break your fast. Not a fact or reality.
Seriously you shouldnt bother continuing deceiving yourself that youre fasting, youve concocted enough stories here to make the devil feel like an amateur

So from this gibberish you wrote above, are you trying to deny that hungry Christians didn't eat Muslims?! Lemme show you what a Christian said about the event in which he was ashamed!

Fulcher of Chartres, who wrote:

"I shudder to tell that many of our people, harassed by the madness of excessive hunger, cut pieces from the buttocks of the Saracens already dead there, which they cooked, but when it was not yet roasted enough by the fire, they devoured it with savage mouth"

Source: ] Edward Peters, The First Crusade: The Chronicle of Fulcher of Chartres and Other Source Materials (University of Pennsylvania Press, 1998), 84.

Note that Saracens is what Europeans call Muslims or their ilks.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...its a duck, If boko haram does all it does under the guise of Islam then they are muslims. If Muslims like you rather than come out and condemn their actions would prefer to deceive yourselves with baseless 'facts' then you my good sir are a boko haram supporter

Look at how stupid and nonsensical your post is. This is the main reason why I don't like engaging yoruba Christians in arguments, you think like say your brain has being evaporated. So since I've posting you didn't see when I said they aren't Muslims and their activities are not attributed to Islam. I never for once even sympathize with them not even when they were new. You accuse Muslims of different things when in fact we are innocent, and from the senseless post of yours you just called me a BokoHaramm. I can't do anything rather than to leave you to God, he's the only one that knows what man thinks. Be reassured that he would surely judge you! I'm saying this and making it clear that Boko-are-rams aren't Muslims, say whatever you like!

No Abubakar is one of the likely names you hear as a christains name.

That's means Andrew Breviek is a devoted Christian!

No they are Jews

It'll make sense if they're Jews as far as they aren't Muslims!

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Iya e oni baba so ko soro
Iwo gan won o mo eni bayi si eni to gba e ni baba

Yoruba Christian are ingrates!

Demmzy15:


Arabs indeed engaged in slavery, most of Arab slaves were gotten from warfare compared to European. Europeans invaded lands and took the populace by force, you can't even compare.

And what do you even mean by 'mostly during warfare'?
Lols
Though you are trying so hard to portray the mohammedan arabs as angels, the reality is ancient arabs were renowned slave traders centuries past, even before the time of your prophet Mohammed.

It is trite that mohammedan arabs invaded many north african territories.

It might be termed as warfare, yes (since in some cases, the inhabitants being attacked did fight back )
But it was solely an 'offensive warfare' by the arabs. i.e the arabs were always on the offensive during such attacks.

It is also trite that these conquests caused the lives of millions of africans & millions more were enslaved.

Demmzy15:


Your speculations about black Arab is partially correct, many due to their Arab influence. What you should know is that some of them have darker skin, like when look at Indians you find white and extremely black. But black Indians can't trace their roots back to Africa.

There's nothing like being partially correct here.
Enslavement of africans by arabs did not just start with the total conquest of most of north africa in the 7th century; it predates even the time of your prophet Mohammed. Hope you know your prophet had two african women as wives right?

Inter-marriage, slave trading & wars were the major factors that brought about the spread of africans in arabia & other distant places around the world. The black arabs you see today were originally of african descent i.e their forefathers were either africans or married african women.

The original arabs are caucasians, not blacks. Inter-marriage & constant intermingling with africans brought the merger of two races in the arabia.

However about the indians, i cant really say. But forceful migration often alters a the victims' true identity in some way. Thats why today, alot of brazilians with 'lost' african descent consider themselves more as latinos or even caucasians than africans.

Demmzy15:


Lol most of North Africa?!How did these land embrace Christianity?! Was it by force or willingly?!

The north africans at the time were either coptic christians or pagan berbers.

The coptic christians have been practising their religion even before the emergence of catholicism. They are among the earliest recipients of christianity in world history.
Thus, they were never forced by anyone to become christians.

Demmzy15:


Have you heard of the Crusaders?! This dudes even went far as eating Muslims dead body!

Lol, typical of you muslims to always mention crusaders in your arguments


The Crusaders was formed for the sole purpose of re-claiming Jerusalem from the ancient muslim Turks who had invaded the holy city and made it theirs.

The City of Jerusalem held a special Holy significance to the Christian religion. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem commemorated the hill of crucifixion and the tomb of Christ's burial. Pilgrims throughout Medieval times made sacred pilgrimages to the Holy city of Jerusalem and the church. Although the city of Jerusalem was held by the Saracens the Christian pilgrims had been granted safe passage to visit the Holy city.

In 1065, Jerusalem was taken by the Turks, who came from the kingdom of ancient Persia.
Three thousand(3000) Christians were massacred and the remaining Christians were treated so badly that throughout Christendom people were stirred to fight in holy crusades.

These inhumane actions by the mohammedans against christians aroused a storm of indignation throughout Europe and awakened the desire to save the Holy Land and Jerusalem from the grasp of the islamic invaders.

This was the genesis of the crusaders wars.

Demmzy15:


Bros I can't this politics section, religious section is available!

Well if you insist..

But note that your prophet was also a slave trader when he was alive.

Muhammad owned several black slaves. Muslim scholar Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya relies heavily on the prophet's biographies written by great early Islamic scholars.
He is regarded by Muslims as an authority, a primary source and a leader amongst Islamic scholars. He tells us in his book, "Zad al-Ma'ad" (part 1, pp. 114-116), the following:
"These are the names of Muhammad's male slaves: Yakan Abu Sharh, Aflah, 'Ubayd, Dhakwan, Tahman, Mirwan, Hunayn, Sanad, Fadala Yamamin, Anjasha al-Hadi, Mad'am, Karkara, Abu Rafi', Thawban, Ab Kabsha, Salih, Rabah, Yara Nubyan, Fadila, Waqid, Mabur, Abu Waqid, Kasam, Abu' Ayb, Abu Muwayhiba, Zayd Ibn Haritha, and also a black slave called Mahran."
Even today in Saudi Arabia, the heartland of Islam, the common word for "Black" is "Abd", also meaning "slave".

Muhammad himself began to take many more slaves after he moved to Madina.
Slaves were usually taken in raids on his own Quraysh tribe, on Judaized&Christian Arabs as well as any other Arabian tribes that he chose as a victim of his plunder.

Prophet Muhammad is believed to have owned 40 slaves some of them blacks. Muhammad had kept his female slaves as concubines, so did his comrades and pious companions.
A good example is the story of Mahran, one of Muhammad’s black slaves; who was made to carry the belongings of Muhammad and his companions while on a journey through the burning desert as Muhammad said to him: "Carry them, for you are a ship." Thereafter, he became known by that surname, Safina ('ship').
Relating this own story, Mahran said:
"The apostle of God and his companions went on a trip. (When) their belongings became too heavy for them to carry, Muhammad told me, 'Spread your garment.' They filled it with their belongings, then they put it on me. The apostle of God told me, 'Carry (it), for you are a ship.' Even if I was carrying the load of six or seven donkeys while we were on a journey, anyone who felt weak would throw his clothes or his shield or his sword on me so I would carry that, a heavy load. The prophet told me, 'You are a ship"' (refer to Ibn Qayyim, p. 115–116; al-Hulya, Vol. 1, p. 369, quoted from Ahmad 5:222).

How dare you then point your fingers at only the europeans as the enslavers of africans when even your supposed 'prophet' committed even worst atrocity

Demmzy15:

So a Christian on the battlefield didn't pray to God to give him victory and safety?! Are saying before embarking on battles, prayers weren't offered to Christ so as he can help them kill their enemies more and more?!

Very si..lly comment i must say.
Or will you also consider the ongoing war in yemen as a
religious war for Allah?
World war II was fought by a predominantly christian country against other predominantly christian countries and the victims of the wars were either christians & jews.

Hence, world war II was never a religious war for Christ or against unbelievers/non-christians.
Both parties in the fight are christians. The war was solely a power tussle between the then super powers of the world i.e . Germany, Britian, Russia, Italy, U.S & in some way, Japan as well.

Demmzy15:


What brought Usman Dan Fodio here now?! You clearly don't know the man, but because you heard he fought wars you automatically think he's an aggressor. You need to know about him before spilling thrash! My own is BokoHaramm aren't Muslims. ... Finish!

Rather you wish B.H arent muslims
BTW, What is your definition of a muslim if i may ask?

MalcoImX:
Question is, does the Christian scripture contain such harsh punishments as you easily ascribe to Islam? Are there even Christians now, apart from some in the Catholic Church? Are these people exporting homosexuality and gay marriage now that you call Christians? Forget even about that and ponder why the rich heritage of Jesus has been turned into a joke to an extent that they're now referred to as "nominal Christians." Find the Christians first, then we decide on the validity of your assumption.

And who are you to decide who is or is not a true christian?

If i may ask, what is your definition of a true christian or muslim

limamintruth:


Very si..lly comment i must say.
Or will you also consider the ongoing war in yemen as a
religious war for Allah?
World war II was fought by a predominantly christian country against other predominantly christian countries and the victims of the wars were either christians & jews.

Hence, world war II was never a religious war for Christ or against unbelievers/non-christians.
Both parties in the fight are christians. The war was solely a power tussle between the then super powers of the world i.e . Germany, Britian, Russia, Italy, U.S & in some way, Japan as well.

But the Crusades was an Holy War right?!

Rather you wish B.H arent muslims
BTW, What is your definition of a muslim if i may ask?

Bokoharam aren't Muslims shikena!

Demmzy15:

But the Crusades was an Holy War right?!

Sorry but we dont do holy wars like you bloodthirsty muslims and your jihads
Nonetheless, since they were first attacked by the mohammedan Turks who exterminated thousands of faithful christians, the reprisal attack by the crusaders becomes justified.

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Bokoharam aren't Muslims shikena!

You wish ... keep wishing its allowed

If i may even ask, are you even a (true) muslim?

Well, never you forget that your Prophet mohammed did exactly what B.H & . Isis are doing sha

limamintruth:



And who are you to decide who is or is not a true christian?

If i may ask, what is your definition of a true christian or muslim

Am I the one who came up with the phrase "nominal Christians?"

limamintruth:
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Lol, see boy o. So because I say BokoHaramm aren't Muslims then you declare me a non-Muslim?!

Anyway, lemme not mind you because I know 'igbo' might be behind this!

For your other allegations, please back up with proofs. Be restassured that you'll defend your Bible and Christianity's bloody history!

whatever the Egyptian government did or did not do after the killings is irrelevant. its like medicinee after death. the deed was already done. what's more important is that those killings were carried out as instructed by your fictional character- prophet Muhammed.

Demmzy15:

Lemme show you what the Muslims of Egypt did for their Coptic Christian brethren when they were executed!

"Egypt’s Air Force has hit Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) positions in Derna, Libya, after the execution of 21 Christian Egyptians by the terrorist group. Libyan forces loyal to the authorities have also targeted the IS in the country, a commander said.

Up to 50 militants have been killed in the airstrikes on Libya, Egyptian state TV reported.

Egypt’s military has issued a televised statement, confirming the dawn strikes and stating that the attacks targeted IS camps, training sites and weapons storage locations in Libya, Reuters reported."

http://rt.com/news/232639-egypt-airforce-isis-targets/

This is what a Muslim Government did to terrorists and right now Egyptian Military which is controlled by Muslims are currently dealing with extremists in the Sinai region. So talking without evidence is really bad, like I said earlier you've entered my trap!

trapQ:
whatever the Egyptian government did or did not do after the killings is irrelevant.

Later you people would be spreading rumors that Muslims aren't doing anything to fight terrorism. Egyptian Military would continue to pound them until they know their left from right!

its like medicinee after death. the deed was already done. what's more important is that those killings were carried out as [s]instructed by your fictional character- prophet Muhammed.[/s]

"Desperation indeed leads to stupidity". Please for God sake or for Christ sake, read this story I'm about to present:

Amr ibn al-As was the governor of Egypt. One of his sons beat up a Coptic Christian with a whip, saying, ‘I am the son of a nobleman!" The Copt went to Umar ibn al-Khattab, the Muslim caliph who resided in the city of Medina, and lodged a complaint. These are the details as related by Anas ibn Malik, the personal servant of the Prophet in his lifetime:

"We were sitting with Umar ibn al-Khattab when an Egyptian came in and said, ‘Commander of the Faithful, I come to you as a refugee.’ So, Umar asked him about his problem and he answered, Amr had a custom of letting his horses run free in Egypt. One day, I came by riding my mare. When I passed by a group of people, they looked at me. Muhammad, the son of Amr got up and came to me, saying, ‘I swear by the Lord of the Kaaba, this is my mare!’ I responded, ‘I swear by the Lord of the Kaaba, the mare is mine!’ He came up to me and began beating me with a whip, saying, ‘You may take her, because I am the son of a nobleman (meaning I am more generous than you).’ The incident got to Amr, who feared that I might come to you, so he put me in jail. I escaped, and here I am before you."

Anas continued:

"I swear by God, the only response Umar made was to tell the Egyptian to take a seat. Then, Umar wrote a letter to Amr, saying, ‘When this letter reaches you, come and bring me your son, Muhammad.’ Then he told the Egyptian to stay in Medina until he was told Amr has arrived. When Amr received the note, he called his son and asked him, ‘Did you commit a crime?’ His son stated he has not. Amr asked, ‘Then why is Umar writing about you?’ They both went to Umar"

Anas narrates the incident further:

"I swear by God, we were sitting with Umar, and Amr arrived wearing the clothes of common people. Umar looked around for the son, and saw him standing behind his father (to appear less conspicuous). Umar asked, ‘Where is the Egyptian?’ and he responded, ‘Here I am!’ Umar told him, ‘Here is the whip. Take it and beat the son of the nobleman.’ So he took it and beat him vigorously, while Umar said over and over, ‘Beat the son of the nobleman.’ We did not let him stop until we were satisfied he had beaten him enough. Then, Umar said, ‘Now you must take it and hit me on my bald head. This all happened to you because of my power over you.’ The Egyptian responded, ‘I am satisfied and my anger has cooled.’ Umar told him, ‘If you had beaten me, I would not have stopped you until you had wished to. And you, Amr, since when have you made the people your slaves? They were born free.’ Amr began to apologize, telling him, ‘I did not know that this is what happened.’ So, Umar said turned back to the Egyptian, telling him, ‘You may go, and be guided. If anything untoward happens to you, write to me.’" Tantawi, Ali, ‘The History Of Umar,’ p. 155-156

This was what a disciple of Prophet Muhammad did to a Muslim who oppressed a Christian. I tell you that a terrorist doesn't know this story because if he did he wouldn't blow up a church or a mosque! Reason with me!

trapQ:
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The verses quoted in the pix are totally out of context!

Demmzy15:

Lol, see boy o. So because I say BokoHaramm aren't Muslims then you declare me a non-Muslim?!

Anyway, lemme not mind you because I know 'igbo' might be behind this!

For your other allegations, please back up with proofs. Be restassured that you'll defend your Bible and Christianity's bloody history!

Lols, dont get so worked up already dude..
I just asked you a very simple question since you seem to know who is or isnt a muslim.

I wonder if prophet mohammed will even qualify to be a muslim by your set standard (considering he is also guilty of the crimes of B.H & isis et al)

And thank God you have confirmed that our bloody past is now history, unlike yours that is still trending till date.

Islam the religion of bloodshed past, present & possibly into the future as well.

Demmzy15:

The verses quoted in the pix are totally out of context!

If you had said B.H are misguided muslims, i'd had agreed with you much.

But claiming they are entirely not muslims is what i will vehemently disagree with.

The so-called pious muslims in jos went about burning churches just this week without any provocation from the peace loving christians.
Hence, will you still blindly refer to those muslim youths(who might even be more committed in the practise of islam than you) as not muslim?

What about the sharia police in kano state who keep harassing/victimising non-muslims in the state by preventing them from carry on with their lawful food business as citizens of a secular country? Are the sharia police not muslims as well

So you see, this is where your argument is flawed. And christians blame muslims cos even the so-called moderate muslims are not really as tolerant as they appear to be.

MalcoImX:
Am I the one who came up with the phrase "nominal Christians?"

My point is whether or not someone is a nominal christian or muslim cannot be decided by us, cos you & I aint perfect either.

And that doesnt still change the fact that B.H are muslims (nominal or not is not mine to say).

Muslims are taught to lie for their religion. They are under a spell. They attack in packs. They know the truth but the do not want to admit. They always quote old testament scriptures to back up their evil in their bid to make christianity look bad.

Let those stupid muslims answer this question. Which religion has been killing people in Nigeria? How many Churches have been burnt vs mosques?

Bloody liers. These guys disgust me.

sallam alaikum,your answer

religion doesnt kill people,people kill people,and dont be selfish,dont pretend that terrorism is limited to just nigeria,its all over the world

but lets be honest with each other

boko haram kills both muslims and christians in nigeria

isreali army kill only muslims in gaza

boko haram bombs both masjid and churches

isreal army burns only masjid in gaza

boko haram wants a full islamic state so that they can be in full control of nigeria and its resources

isreal army just kill to distract world derectors as they combine forces with united states to steal oil from the middle east,may ALLAH bless you as you realise your mistake an error and understand that your "gods chosen land" has killed more people than isis and boko haram combined..

limamintruth:


And what do you even mean by 'mostly during warfare'?

You know what I mean so why asking me jamb question?!

Lols

Though you are trying so hard to portray the mohammedan arabs as angels, the reality is ancient arabs were renowned slave traders centuries past, even before the time of your prophet Mohammed.

Arabs is a race which consists of tribe, so trying to blame their actions on Islam won't work. When I'm talking about Arab Slavery I mean Slavery in Islam and I hope you aren't dumb to know that. So by this gibberish logic of yours you want to attribute anything Arab to Islam even those before Prophet Muhammad!

It is trite that mohammedan arabs invaded many north african territories.

Yes they did due to their Wars with the Byzantine Empire which controlled the many parts of North Africa as of then!

It might be termed as warfare, yes (since in some cases, the inhabitants being attacked did fight back )
But it was solely an 'offensive warfare' by the arabs. i.e the arabs were always on the offensive during such attacks.

Thank God, you agree that it's a warfare. But study what lead to the wars between Muslims and the Byzantine Empire before coming to spill sh't here!

It is also trite that these conquests caused the lives of millions of africans & millions more were enslaved.

Millions and millions?! Please give me a credible source for the thrash. By the way, most of the people that engaged in wars with Muslims were Christians and they weren't taken as slaves rather they(men only, not women and children) paid 'Jizya' just as how Muslims pay 'Zakat' too!

There's nothing like being partially correct here.
Enslavement of africans by arabs did not just start with the total conquest of most of north africa in the 7th century;

No one is denying slavery, but it's something you can't compare with Christianity. Many were forced from their homes and forced into slavery. Ajayi Crowther was a slave before he became a Christian, Jaja Of Opobo was a slave too. You can't compare slavery in Islam to slavery in Christianity. If you're up to the task, let's debate that!

it predates even the time of your prophet Mohammed. Hope you know your prophet had two african women as wives right?

The only wife of Prophet from Africa is Mariyah from Egypt who was a Coptic Christian. The Prophet Muhammad married he and she had a child for him. So I don't know the 'wives' you're mentioning!

Inter-marriage, slave trading & wars were the major factors that brought about the spread of africans in arabia & other distant places around the world. The black arabs you see today were originally of african descent i.e their forefathers were either africans or married african women.

*yawns* you're boring me already. Before the birth of Prophet Muhammad, a Christian King named Abraha from Ethiopia had a big church in Yemen. Christian Africans migrated to Yemen and established themselves there which brought about Arabs with black skin, you find many in Yemen, parts of Saudi and Sudan.

The original arabs are caucasians, not blacks. Inter-marriage & constant intermingling with africans brought the merger of two races in the arabia.

See id'ot, so Arabs are Caucasians ba?! Even your Jesus was not completely white, so don't misinform anyone here. I attached a pix showing how Jesus might have looked since he's a middle-easterner like Arabs.

However about the indians, i cant really say. But forceful migration often alters a the victims' true identity in some way. Thats why today, alot of brazilians with 'lost' african descent consider themselves more as latinos or even caucasians than africans.

Nothing concern me sha!
*chews popcorn with Daura fura*

The north africans at the time were either coptic christians or pagan berbers.

OK!

The coptic christians have been practising their religion even before the emergence of catholicism. They are among the earliest recipients of christianity in world history.

I seriously don't know why you're bringing up this points, anyway even when they were under the rule of the Byzantines Empire which later gave birth to the Catholic Church, they were oppressed, tortured and even martyred. I quote from Wikipedia:

"Copts suffered under the rule of the Byzantine Eastern Roman Empire. The Melkite Patriarchs, appointed by the emperors as both spiritual leaders and civil governors, massacred those Egyptians they considered heretics. Many were tortured and martyred in an attempt to force them accept the terms of Chalcedon, but the Egyptians remained loyal to the faith of their fathers and the Cyrillian view of Christology. One of the most renowned Egyptian saints of the period is Saint Samuel the Confessor."

As you can see what fellow Christians did to their precious brethren!

Thus, they were never forced by anyone to become christians.

They were forced by the Byzantine Christians and some a Shia ruler named AlHakim, but not by Muslims!

Lol, typical of you muslims to always mention crusaders in your arguments

Of course we would so?! let's see how you'll defend their atrocities!

The Crusaders was formed for the sole purpose of re-claiming Jerusalem from the ancient muslim Turks who had invaded the holy city and made it theirs.

Jerusalem was under the rule of Byzantine Empire which was at war with Muslims right from the time of Prophet Muhammad. So that's not enough reason for them to plunged into a city killing women, children infants. Defenceless humans were eaten! Please let's compare the Muslims' takeover of Jerusalem during Khalifa Umar and the takeover of Jerusalem by the Crusaders. It's a challenge if you're willing to take it!

The City of Jerusalem held a special Holy significance to the Christian religion. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem commemorated the hill of crucifixion and the tomb of Christ's burial. Pilgrims throughout Medieval times made sacred pilgrimages to the Holy city of Jerusalem and the church. Although the city of Jerusalem was held by the Saracens the Christian pilgrims had been granted safe passage to visit the Holy city.

Of course as its sacred to Christians so to Muslims and Jews. One wonders why you guys always killed Jews, when the Crusaders took over Jerusalem, they rounded up all Jews and placed them inside their synagogues and burnt them! That's Christ's inspiration!

@emboldened, Thank you for acknowledging the fact that Muslims protected Christians during their pilgrimage. Saracen is the name Europeans call Muslims!

In 1065, Jerusalem was taken by the Turks, who came from the kingdom of ancient Persia.

Lies! Jerusalem was taken over by Umar 400years before! Busted!

Three thousand(3000) Christians were massacred and the remaining Christians were treated so badly that throughout Christendom people were stirred to fight in holy crusades.

Another lie! Alexius the Emperor of the Byzantine Empire made an appeal to the Pope for the Crusades. So you can lie like this?! Bros I get ya time today!

[s]These inhumane actions by the mohammedans against christians aroused a storm of indignation throughout Europe and awakened the desire to save the Holy Land and Jerusalem from the grasp of the islamic invaders.[/s]

Liar! hope you aren't quoting from bibleprobe.com or answering islam.org?!

This was the genesis of the crusaders wars.

No be only Genesis na Revelations!

Well if you insist..

I insist!

But note that your prophet was also a slave trader when he was alive. [/b]
I thought we're through with this slavery issue after you've been busted!

[quote]Muhammad owned several black slaves. Muslim scholar Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya relies heavily on the prophet's biographies written by great early Islamic scholars.
He is regarded by Muslims as an authority, a primary source and a leader amongst Islamic scholars.

Show me one scholar that regards Ibn Qayyim has the leader of scholars. Another lie, you think I don't know him right?!

He tells us in his book, "Zad al-Ma'ad" (part 1, pp. 114-116), the following:
"These are the names of Muhammad's male slaves: Yakan Abu Sharh, Aflah, 'Ubayd, Dhakwan, Tahman, Mirwan, Hunayn, Sanad, Fadala Yamamin, Anjasha al-Hadi, Mad'am, Karkara, Abu Rafi', Thawban, Ab Kabsha, Salih, Rabah, Yara Nubyan, Fadila, Waqid, Mabur, Abu Waqid, Kasam, Abu' Ayb, Abu Muwayhiba, Zayd Ibn Haritha, and also a black slave called Mahran."

As you can see many of his slaves were white, by the way I have to check to see if indeed your source is correct. Muhammad's slave even likes flexing, one the sports Arabs like is camel and horse riding in which his slave participated in:

Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle was on a journey and he had a black slave called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast, and there were women riding on those camels). Allah's Apostle said, "Waihaka (May Allah be merciful to you), O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the camels) with the glass vessels (women)!"
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 8:73:182

Even today in Saudi Arabia, the heartland of Islam, the common word for "Black" is "Abd", also meaning "slave".

See greatest lie of the century! "black" in Arabic is "aswad". I dunno where you're getting this your nonsense from o! Even white Coptic Christians or Arab Christians bear names like "Abd Al - Masih" meaning "Slave or servant of the Messiah". Muslims bear "Abd Allah" meaning "Slave or servant of God". Liar oshi!

[s]Muhammad himself began to take many more slaves after he moved to Madina.
Slaves were usually taken in raids on his own Quraysh tribe, on Judaized&Christian Arabs as well as any other Arabian tribes that he chose as a victim of his plunder.[/s]

JEWS who fought wars with Muslims, the captives were taken as slaves just the same way Moses did. Jesus even told Moses to save some virgins for him. The Arab Christians of Yemen in fact loved Muslims and helped them to the extent the Christians were allowed to pray in the mosque in Medina!

Prophet Muhammad is believed to have owned 40 slaves some of them blacks. Muhammad had kept his female slaves as concubines, so did his comrades and pious companions.

All his slaves were automatically free after his death with some even asking for their freedom during his lifetime. He had no female slave or concubine!

A good example is the story of Mahran, one of Muhammad’s black slaves; who was made to carry the belongings of Muhammad and his companions while on a journey through the burning desert as Muhammad said to him: "Carry them, for you are a ship." Thereafter, he became known by that surname, Safina ('ship').
Relating this own story, Mahran said:
"The apostle of God and his companions went on a trip. (When) their belongings became too heavy for them to carry, Muhammad told me, 'Spread your garment.' They filled it with their belongings, then they put it on me. The apostle of God told me, 'Carry (it), for you are a ship.' Even if I was carrying the load of six or seven donkeys while we were on a journey, anyone who felt weak would throw his clothes or his shield or his sword on me so I would carry that, a heavy load. The prophet told me, 'You are a ship"' (refer to Ibn Qayyim, p. 115–116; al-Hulya, Vol. 1, p. 369, quoted from Ahmad 5:222).

Many slaves were freed by the Prophet himself, so don't even dare it I tell you! I would verify your source later my battery is low!

How dare you then point your fingers at only the europeans as the enslavers of africans when even your supposed 'prophet' committed even worst atrocity

No need to claim super hero, let's compare both and see. Right from the time of Moses when Jesus commanded wars till date! It's not hard, just open a thread on that topic. No one would forget how Africans, Native Indians were brutally murdered and enslaved all in the name of Christianity. There is a story of a Native American tribe who fought against Europeans, when he was about to be executed. They asked him to convert so he can be accepted into heaven and he replied "if heaven is where Christians stay, I rather go to hell"!

trapQ:
your Mohammed is fictional, that nigga never existed.

While you are at it quoting, why not also quote what Q8vs1-11 says? You Fraud! Taking words out of context since 610AD.

whatever the egyptian govt dod or did not do after the killings is irrelevant. by the way what does ISIS mean (ISLAMIC STATE) yh this thread is closed. pln_

Demmzy15:

Lemme show you what the Muslims of Egypt did for their Coptic Christian brethren when they were executed!

"Egypt’s Air Force has hit Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) positions in Derna, Libya, after the execution of 21 Christian Egyptians by the terrorist group. Libyan forces loyal to the authorities have also targeted the IS in the country, a commander said.

Up to 50 militants have been killed in the airstrikes on Libya, Egyptian state TV reported.

Egypt’s military has issued a televised statement, confirming the dawn strikes and stating that the attacks targeted IS camps, training sites and weapons storage locations in Libya, Reuters reported."

http://rt.com/news/232639-egypt-airforce-isis-targets/

This is what a Muslim Government did to terrorists and right now Egyptian Military which is controlled by Muslims are currently dealing with extremists in the Sinai region. So talking without evidence is really bad, like I said earlier you've entered my trap!

oh yh?? which ones are in context then?? all the other 107 thereabout verses that incite violence?? lmao

Demmzy15:

The verses quoted in the pix are totally out of context!

by "fraud" you mean ISLAM and Muhammed

ibrokola:

While you are at it quoting, why not also quote what Q8vs1-11 says? You Fraud! Taking words out of context since 610AD.

st Bernard lmao. are you kidding me?? someone who was born in the year 1090?? is this some kind of joke?? rotflmao to China.

its a shame!! you had to dig so deep to find an INNOCENT. yes st Bernard of clairvaux is no christian terrorist, so I wonder where you got that from.

Paul Jennings , yes ! but how many people did he kill?? how many people died from those supposed bombings? 2? ,3?? most of his victims only sustained injuries.

andrew Berwick was no "christian terrorist" OK? he never said JESUS OR CHRISTIANITY made him kill people. no! he based his killings against the islamization of Norway. that's it. he never said it was inspired by Christ.

bottom line is that you have failed, and Islam has failed since the beginning of time. if had to dig through Wikipedia , Google and what not just to come up with names(,false names),then this argument is baseless. I can comfortably name 10 Islamic terrorists who killed based on the teaching of your fictional Muhammed., Osama bin laden, abdulmutallab(only that he wasn't successful), sadam Hussein, book haram, al Queda, ISIS etc. and to think that ISIS means ISLAMIC STATE just says it all. this thread is closed . Argue with your ancestors.

bye!

Demmzy15:

If you indeed followed Christ, you wouldn't have called me a fool because you're at risk. Jesus said whosoever calls another man a fool is at risk of entering hell, so repent!


So you want to deny that St. Bernard isn't a Christian right?!But you want me to accept that Bokoharam are Muslims, lmao, you're big hypocrite! The Second Holy Crusade death toll was about 750,000deaths.So don't deny history here!

They might be following what Jesus said about the sword, he said we should sell our bags to buy swords. One wonders what we use sword to do?!

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

You keep telling me to list but when I do, you deny! Oya let me list Christian terrorists for you.

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996.
Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God

"Andrew Berwick" who killed 77 people by shooting and bombings. He claimed he was against the 'Islamization' of Norway. This incident happened in 2011, he did it by the inspiration of Christ!


Uh! That's harsh mehn, hope we don't have kids here! lmao!

st Bernard lmao. are you kidding me?? someone who was born in the year 1090?? is this some kind of joke?? rotflmao to China.

its a shame!! you had to dig so deep to find an INNOCENT. yes st Bernard of clairvaux is no christian terrorist, so I wonder where you got that from.

Paul Jennings , yes ! but how many people did he kill?? how many people died from those supposed bombings? 2? ,3?? most of his victims only sustained injuries.

andrew Berwick was no "christian terrorist" OK? he never said JESUS OR CHRISTIANITY made him kill people. no! he based his killings against the islamization of Norway. that's it. he never said it was inspired by Christ.

bottom line is that you have failed, and Islam has failed since the beginning of time. if had to dig through Wikipedia , Google and what not just to come up with names(,false names),then this argument is baseless. I can comfortably name 10 Islamic terrorists who killed based on the teaching of your fictional Muhammed., Osama bin laden, abdulmutallab(only that he wasn't successful), sadam Hussein, book haram, al Queda, ISIS etc. and to think that ISIS means ISLAMIC STATE just says it all. this thread is closed . Argue with your ancestors.bye!

Demmzy15:

If you indeed followed Christ, you wouldn't have called me a fool because you're at risk. Jesus said whosoever calls another man a fool is at risk of entering hell, so repent!


So you want to deny that St. Bernard isn't a Christian right?!But you want me to accept that Bokoharam are Muslims, lmao, you're big hypocrite! The Second Holy Crusade death toll was about 750,000deaths.So don't deny history here!

They might be following what Jesus said about the sword, he said we should sell our bags to buy swords. One wonders what we use sword to do?!

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36

You keep telling me to list but when I do, you deny! Oya let me list Christian terrorists for you.

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996.
Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God

"Andrew Berwick" who killed 77 people by shooting and bombings. He claimed he was against the 'Islamization' of Norway. This incident happened in 2011, he did it by the inspiration of Christ!


Uh! That's harsh mehn, hope we don't have kids here! lmao!

trapQ:
whatever the egyptian govt dod or did not do after the killings is irrelevant. by the way what does ISIS mean (ISLAMIC STATE) yh this thread is closed. pln_

See this funny creature o, na you go close thread! So because it bears Islamic then it's islamic right?! Have you heard of the "Lord's Resistance Army"?! I think this group is a Christian group!

trapQ:
oh yh?? which ones are in context then?? all the other 107 thereabout verses that incite violence?? lmao

The problem is that when I refute all these half-sewn verses, it'll be futile. I'll just be wasting my time, so I rather save my time!

Awesomeking:
sallam alaikum,your answer

religion doesnt kill people,people kill people,and dont be selfish,dont pretend that terrorism is limited to just nigeria,its all over the world

but lets be honest with each other

boko haram kills both muslims and christians in nigeria

isreali army kill only muslims in gaza

boko haram bombs both masjid and churches

isreal army burns only masjid in gaza

boko haram wants a full islamic state so that they can be in full control of nigeria and its resources

isreal army just kill to distract world derectors as they combine forces with united states to steal oil from the middle east,may ALLAH bless you as you realise your mistake an error and understand that your "gods chosen land" has killed more people than isis and boko haram combined..

What do you mean by "Isreali army kills only muslims in gaza?". Are you insinuating there are no christians in gaza or what?

Its now obvious that you muslim lots are just looking for any worthless straw to hold onto; thereby bringing up all kinds of flimsy & ridiculously stu..pid issues.

The state of isreal is a jewish dominated state with a sizeable muslim population. So what are you blabbing about if i may ask Mal. Shiite

Isrealis target has been hamas & being the typically selfish and religious biased muslims that they are, hamas entire army are muslims. They deliberately excluded the christian minority in gaza city from being part of hamas. Hence, when attacked by Isreal, the casualities automatically are muslims.
So instead of blaming isreal for attacking hamas for throwing harmful rockets indiscriminately into their territory, focus your blame squarely on hamas for deliberately choosing to alienate other religious minorities from being part of them.

trapQ:
oh yh?? which ones are in context then?? all the other 107 thereabout verses that incite violence?? lmao

Bro abeg ignore that mo.fo
He is trying so hard to paint his islam as peaceful when their beloved prophet sef was guilty of so much bloodshed.