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Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Jaymaxxy(m): 11:40am On Jul 19, 2015 |
Bollove:Try to read the whole story before u make any comment. We are talking about forging of the standing order here, which is a criminal offence. In a normal society, those that are found guilty after prosecution will be jailed for 21 years. 1 Like |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by fkaz(m): 11:41am On Jul 19, 2015 |
barcanista: According to senator ITA ENNAG(who is a member of committee on house rule since 1999-2015), said the senate and house of rep STANDING RULE which national assembly members use upon resumption in 1999 was a product of 1999 CONSTITUTIONAL for both states and federal legislature. Which members themselves later amended to create more committees and other rules 3 Likes |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 11:42am On Jul 19, 2015 |
TGM2015:My brother, one of the problem we have in this country is that we are too emotional. The so-called Senate standing rule is nothing but a document to guide the business of the Senate. It is not a LAW and defaulters are punished according to the rule. It is like the rules and regulations of any organisation. Now if certain persons insist that the 2015 document is forged, then which one is the original? If certain persons insist that the 7th Senate never adopted the Standing rule, then who adopted the 1999 standing rule (as there was no Senate prior)? You get my message? If a group says the rules was breached, he has to petition the Office of the Senate President. It doesn't matter whether or not the occupant was a defendant. The SP will constitute an adhoc committee to investigate it IF he sees merit in it. The police cannot work with it as long as no section of the law was breached. This is a non issue my friend. |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Securedlife(m): 11:43am On Jul 19, 2015 |
ibedun:yeah, I am one of them, Ike Ekweremadu is my ABLE DSP, come what may
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Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by jomoh: 11:48am On Jul 19, 2015 |
Bollove: And you expect EFCC not to expediate actions to pick him up for his numerous Financial Crimes. Even his father told him before he died the he will be jailed when caught. If not for the immunity clause, why else do you think he was so desperate to become the Senate President? |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 11:52am On Jul 19, 2015 |
Any aggrieved person should go to Court. This is why we have the courts. Saraki and Deputy were validly elected until a court of competent jurisdiction proves otherwise. |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Clerverly: 11:52am On Jul 19, 2015 |
barcanista: Smh! Do you know that some Managing Directors of banks had been jailed for only inserting words In the minutes of their board meeting thereby committing forgery? Why do you choose to gloss over a pure criminal case just to oil your political standing? 3 Likes |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 11:58am On Jul 19, 2015 |
Clerverly: Any aggrieved party should head to court. Perhaps the case could be adjudicated before the 9th Assembly commences. Tinubu and SW APC should just count their losses and let the nation move on. |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by GenOrumov: 12:00pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
chukwudi44: Are you saying that you can change rules without informing the people the rules are meant for berore the constitution of the new assembly? |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by mmrius(m): 12:08pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
Bukola Saraki is about to disgrace himself terribly. Blind ambition destroys. A lesson he will never forget in a very long time. 1 Like |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by TGM2015: 12:12pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
barcanista:A document that guide an institution created by constitution was forged in collaboration of the Senate president and other interested parties, you are here advocating that the case should be investigated by the same Senate president. A document that can alter the business of institution that has control over 60% of legislative arms of the Government is not a business of Police, and Nigeria, then I have to rest the case there with you. Moreover, my judgement is not based on emotions but based on all available facts and evidence. Emotions only needed to sustains the struggle till a fair justice is done and seen as being done.. still waiting for NPF report on their investigation. 1 Like |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Ghandi12: 12:12pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
TGM2015: I agree with your submission. When actions have been taken and have become disputed it is only the Court of Law that have the final say. TGM2015: Full proceedings of the election day are everywhere in words, pictures and videos. From available information on the election day Senate standing order 2015 was never introduced, discussed nor ratified before going into use. |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by BossTtdiamonds(m): 12:18pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
Bollove: You're missing a point..those involved in the supposed forgery if found guilty would cease to become senators.. If Saraki is among them, he'll be chewed to pieces.... Either way, those who are to support him would reduce.... 2 Likes |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 12:18pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
nduchucks: U guys are still reeing from the lost of DSP. it is only the Clark that have the right to set rules for in coming senators not the out going one. |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 12:27pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
You didn't respond to pertinent questions. If some people insist that the standing rules used were forged then where is the original? If they say that the 7th Senate ought to amend it, then who produced the standing order for the 4th Senate(1999)? Like I said, the Senate is an autonomous body and their inhouse disputes are handled inhouse. There are procedures. There is no ambiguity here because the Standing rule isn't a law in the first instance. As long as the Constitution isn't breached then no floflem. For instance, the Senate Standing rule give preference to ranking members in area of choosing Presiding officers, but a Newcomer will become the Senate President if majority elect him whether the standing order like it or not. TGM2015: |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by JakesJ(m): 12:41pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
I No My Country Nigeria Very Well! We Love It Hard & Difficult, Just As We're Enjoying It Dividense Now!! After Having Sin Against God Almighty 4 Voting In The Anti~Christ, He Still Bring In A Savior 4 Us, But 4 Been Sweared 4 Will Not Acknowledge Him And Understand His Mission Against The Old Evil Man... I'm Not Born 2 Hardship At All, So My God Liveth Amen......... |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Pangea: 12:41pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
gbrown: Because the igbos don't have the time, patience and diplomacy to build a national party. Hence the shortcut, Biafra! |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Pangea: 12:44pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 12:51pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
fkaz: Chai bros you can lieooooo !!!! So which constitutional conference created the 2003,2007 and 2011 house rules? Who elected the state and Federal legislature that who went to the so-called Constitutional conference? This is a matter for the courts to decide!!!! If APC want to bring down their government by themselves,we will gladly help them achieve it. |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
BossTtdiamonds: Going by your analogy Buhari would also cease to be president when any plantiff file for his disqualification on account of certificate forgery!!!! Give up dude there is no way out for you!! You foisted an illiterate on the throne and you will have to live with the repercussions |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by manuroq(m): 12:54pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
What's that? |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by gbrown(m): 12:54pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
Pangea:I CAN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THE IGBOS, IT,S ONE POLITICAL BLUNDER TO ANOTHER, THE OTHER TIME THEY TEAMED UP WITH NPN JUST SO THAT AWOLOWO WILL NOT BECOME PRESIDENT, THEY WERE REWARDED WITH AN ALEX EKWEME VICE PRESIDENCY, HOW THIS IMPARTED IN THIER REGION IS STILL TO BE ANSWERED, JUST THIS LAST ELECTION THEY AGAIN PITCHED THIER TENT WITH A SINKING AND CLUELESS JONATHAN, NOW THEY HAVE NO BARGAINING POWER |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 1:03pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
gbrown: Ode what is your obsession with the igbo race? I thought you people said we are politically daft !!! Getting the speaker of the HOR(second republic) and DSP(4th republic) from a minority parties signifies sophistication afterall.I think you think less of the igbos and focus on your own political woes |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Ghandi12: 1:05pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
barcanista: Most Senators (past and present) will take an exception to your choice of words in describing the document they draft and ratify to guide their business. barcanista: Anything admissible in a Court of Law is invaluable. People are constantly in dispute with their organization and the rules and regulations of the organization most times become the vital tool the Court adopts in adjudication. The accusers here may only be interested in legally proving the 2015 document is forged and unacceptable. Stories from both sides have chronicled the traditional evolution of new Senate standing orders since 1999 to 2011. barcanista: They are not claiming the "rules was breached" they appear to be proving the Senate standing 2015 is forged and therefore acceptable. The group have a good case. It will be a disservice to them to complain of a "breach of 2015 rules" when they can actually prove the 2015 is forged and unacceptable. barcanista: If this group case is to prove the 2015 rules is forged and unacceptable, obviously they do not, yet, accept or respect the present occupier of the Senate presidency. There is, currently, a dispute and only the Court of Law is constitutionally empowered to adjudicate in all disputes. The Police/EFFC/ICPC are legally empowered to receive petitions, investigate, and prosecute. The Police have started working on this case and it is left to the petitioners to ensure their case is successfully determined in their favor. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Ghandi12: 1:17pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
barcanista: fkaz: |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by gbrown(m): 1:17pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
chukwudi44:would have replied, but i never bother with people who are insulting. |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by omenka(m): 1:29pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
HungerBAD:This is equivalent to treason. Dude's gotta see the inner workings of Kirikiri or Ekwulobia. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 1:47pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
Ghandi12: Well said!! Since they think they have a good case let them go to court then!!! PMB was actually accused of forgery and the case was eventually left for the court to decide. |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 1:50pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
omenka: Well until a court of competent jurisdiction pronounces such Saraki and Ekweremadu would remain the SP and DSP and there is nothing you can do about it. |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
gbrown: You didn't bother replying because you have nothing sensisble to post |
Re: Standing Order Used For Saraki Election A Fake, Say Ex-senators by BossTtdiamonds(m): 1:52pm On Jul 19, 2015 |
chukwudi44: @bolded... stands a chance of happening definitely.... Your ending statement however does not in anyway relate to the previous assertion not does it relate to the OP.. You seem like someone consumed by hate.. |
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