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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by huptin(m): 12:38pm On Jul 26, 2015

davien:
Standing in this context means to survive....and remember a day to god is like a thousand years...so the surviving generations are still there..

That's how a christian distorts plain english and reality..

You are not serious...lol

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by franconian: 12:38pm On Jul 26, 2015

Typing....

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by 5minsmadness: 12:40pm On Jul 26, 2015

hahn:
Or

He had consumed too much wine before making the statement

What's with u and alcohol this morning? Did u drink Chelsea dry gin? grin

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Nobody: 12:43pm On Jul 26, 2015

Funny how you don't wish to learn by not going out of the box. To be learned and enlightened, you have to read far and wide regardless of who wrote what book, the author's gender or race. What's funnier is, I'm not a moslem....Thanks

philosopy:
This is not about "questions about your religion" or picking up the Quran for answers.
IT IS NOT ABOUT arguing which religion is better or not.
Dont drag this tread into that.
Read through the trend again and understanding the discussion.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Stillfire: 12:44pm On Jul 26, 2015

so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

It is the generation that see those events, not the disciples generation.

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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by legatto(m): 12:45pm On Jul 26, 2015

You may all find this difficult to believe but he is never coming back, its just the twist they had wanted every christen to believe. All the prophet has been sent with each of them with their lessons and warnings(Prophet Moses nd Israel,Prophet Noah and his Son, Sodom nd Gomorah, Abraham his son and wives, Prophet Adam nd his wife) just to mention a few) do you mean Prophet Issa(Jesus christ) is coming to witness the last day of destruction of the world, do you mean he is going to have to suffer on the last day, am sorry it will never happen. The coming of Jesus is just what they had led many to believe in order to survive. Its a lie far from truth

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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by achukonnamdi(m): 12:45pm On Jul 26, 2015

JESUS CHRIST is NOT coming back again. The coming of JESUS CHRIST means when a Christain dies. No one knows when he /she will die,that is why its is good to do good things and prepare yourself very well because death can come any time and any where. Even if u did good and died and there are no heaven and hell, you will lose anything because you will be remembered on earth for all the good things you did.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by legalalien(m): 12:45pm On Jul 26, 2015

@Reiyvinn: well, from what I read from your post, it seems you are living in doubt already about the existence of God(Jesus). Take a look at what you are debating about, if Jesus is really going to come. If you are truly a Christian, I.2 a born again child of God, you must stay loyal and faithful to the end. He(Jesus) already said he'd come back again and HIS word is life unto them that believe.
Go to your Bible and open your heart to receive and not question. There are somethings better left unquestioned. You said in you previous post awhile ago that you were questioning or wondering about God, really? Anyone who is trying to understand or see God is as good or as bad as death.
We as Christians believe HE is coming back again. And till that Glorious day comes, we must be watchful, vigilante, faithful and stay Loyal for the return of the KING.

You when one isn't loyal to the king, that's treason, as you asking all this doubting question, your in that line of treason son! If your an artheist I'd understand but I pray God helps you through whatever your going through.

Be safe.

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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by ceecee0703(m): 12:45pm On Jul 26, 2015

Firstly Mr op nice article but u must understand that Christianity is a Faithful work with Christ u must also know that the bible says that "Faith is the substance of thing hoped for(heaven ) the evidence of thing not seen.Hebrew 11:1.

moreso,Mk13:32 -34says no one knows the day hour or when Christ shall come only God the father knows. So it is not a failed prophesy but a thing that only the creator knows that's why Jesus said Matt 24:44 Jesus therefore encourages us to be ever ready cos we know not the time. but when a man dies his time has but come that's why the scriptures say "it is appointed unto man once to die after which judgement sets in".
so leave ready Jesus shall yet come

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by 5minsmadness: 12:46pm On Jul 26, 2015

herald9:
To you coming is same thing as going(ascension) abi? Maybe you need the holy spirit to understand simple English after all

You dey craze wey u dey quote me?!?!? Am coming!! (goes to look for bottle to break on his head)
.....
......
...... You see how coming and going can have the same context? grin

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by SalC: 12:48pm On Jul 26, 2015

mubarakopeyemi:
Prophet Muhammad PBUH even said it that Iesa ibn Maryam. Jesus the son of mary will come back during the end time. He shall come and destroy Al massih AdDajjal (The Messiah Imposter) and he shall spread Islam with Quran and Hadith.

Prophet Jesus's (Peace be upon him) Tasks

Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him will have three
main tasks, when he descends on the Earth for the
second time:
1) The first and most important will be that he will
destroy the Dajjal.
2) Protect the Muslims from the barbarous tribes of
Yajuj and Majuj by taking them to Mount Tur and
then Praying for their (Yajuj and Majuj's) destruction.
3) Reign as a Khalif according to the Quran and
Sunnah and elevate Islam.
Prophet Jesus's (Peace be upon him) descent and
the killing of Masih ad-Dajjal

The Dajjal (anti-christ) having failed to enter the holy city of Madinah will proceed to Syria gathering his forces on the way.
Imaam Mahdi will have arranged the Muslim army
and will be on the verge of leading the Muslims in the morning prayer (Abu Umamah / Ibn Majah) when Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him will descend to the white Minaret (Nawwas-b-Samaan/Muslim) in the east of Damascus, wearing two garments died with saffron, placing his hands on the wings of two angels. All those that are present will recognise him, as he will look exactly like the how the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) described Jesus (peace be upon him). Resembling the Sahabi Urwa bin Masood (Abu- Huraira/ Muslim) the colour of his skin will be reddish white (Ibn Abbas/ Bukhari), he will be well built and his hair will be soft and reach his ears. When he lowers his head, beads of perspiration will fall from it and when he raises his head, beads like pearls will scatter from it. (Nawwas-b-Samaan Muslim). Every Kaafir (disbeliever) who smells his sweet breath will die and his breath will reach as far as he can see. On seeing prophet Jesus Peace be upon him, Imaam Mahdi will take a couple of steps backwards so Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him can lead the prayer however Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him will place his hands on the Imaam's shoulder and will say, ''Go forward and lead the prayer as the Iqamah was made for you'' thus Imaam Mahdi will lead the prayer. (Abu Umamah/ Ibne-Majah).
After the prayer Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him
will say, ''Open the gate.'' The gate will be opened
and the Dajjal will be waiting behind it accompanied
by an army of 70,000 Jews, each armed with a sword and shield. The Dajjal on seeing Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him among the Muslims will begin to dissolve like salt in water and will begin to flee.
Prophet JesusPeace be upon him will say to him,
''You will remain alive until I strike you with my
spear.'' He will catch up with him at the Eastern gate
of Ludd (Ludd is a mountain in Syria. Some say that it is a village in Jerusalem, and some say that it is a
village in Palestine) and then Prophet JesusPeace be
upon him will kill him with a small spear.
The Muslims will thereafter defeat and wipe out
Dajjal's army. The Jews will not be able to hide
behind anything on that day. Every time they try to
hide behind a stone, a wall, a tree (except a boxthorn tree), or animal. Allah will make these things speak and they will say, ''O servant of Allah there is a Jew hiding behind me. come kill him.''

The Wisdom in the Descension of Prophet Jesus
(Peace be upon him)

The Ulama of the Ahlus Sunnah w'al-Jama'ah have
given many different reasons in the returning of
Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him to this world or the second time. A few are listed below:

1) The Jews believe that they had killed Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him, Allah will send him before the end of time to prove that they had not killed him and that he is alive. It is he who will kill the Jews and
their leader Dajjal. (Fathul - Bari)

2) Some Ulama have said that Prophet Jesus Peace
be upon him found many virtues of the followers of
Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings be upon
him in the bible and thus he prayed to Allah to make him amongst the Ummah of Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings be upon him. Allah answered his prayer and he will return for the second time as one of the followers of Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings be upon him. (Ibn-Kathir)

3) It is the Law of Allah that anything that is created
from the Earth has to be buried in the Earth and not
the Heavens. Thus he will return to the Earth for the
second time, kill the Dajjal, live for a period of time
and then he will die a natural death and will be
buried with the Prophet Muhammad Peace and
blessings be upon him. (Ashratus-Sa'ah).

SALAM

www.muftisays.com/blog/Seifeddine-M/1035_23-01-2011/return-of-prophet-isa-(jesus).html

Kill! Kill!! Kill!!!
That's the only language you people understand. Smh

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by freecocoa(f): 12:48pm On Jul 26, 2015

hahn:
That's why he's most high

I'm telling you, no be small something. grin

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by legatto(m): 12:49pm On Jul 26, 2015

Stillfire:
so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

It is the generation that see those events, not the disciples generation.

Thousands of generation has passed nd will continue to pass, or do u mean you will still be on earth in year 4001, its not happening no sentiment

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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Nobody: 12:50pm On Jul 26, 2015

Catholics predicted the 2nd coming of Christ several times... Jehovah's witnesses predicted the end of days 5 times and still nothing... A lot of times we are stuck in - "I must believe".

PS: Just like the hell campaigners, when I ask them this question, what happens to Generations that never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel of Jesus, do they get automatic heaven or do they go straight to hell? ... There is usually a look of confusion when I ask them that question.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Lapyte: 12:51pm On Jul 26, 2015

Jesus was trying to tell them that some of them will see of his glory while he was still alive, check Matthew 17vs1-4

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by free2ryhme: 12:52pm On Jul 26, 2015

mubarakopeyemi:
Prophet Muhammad PBUH even said it that Iesa ibn Maryam. Jesus the son of mary will come back during the end time. He shall come and destroy Al massih AdDajjal (The Messiah Imposter) and he shall spread Islam with Quran and Hadith.

Prophet Jesus's (Peace be upon him) Tasks

Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him will have three
main tasks, when he descends on the Earth for the
second time:
1) The first and most important will be that he will
destroy the Dajjal.
2) Protect the Muslims from the barbarous tribes of
Yajuj and Majuj by taking them to Mount Tur and
then Praying for their (Yajuj and Majuj's) destruction.
3) Reign as a Khalif according to the Quran and
Sunnah and elevate Islam.
Prophet Jesus's (Peace be upon him) descent and
the killing of Masih ad-Dajjal

The Dajjal (anti-christ) having failed to enter the holy city of Madinah will proceed to Syria gathering his forces on the way.
Imaam Mahdi will have arranged the Muslim army
and will be on the verge of leading the Muslims in the morning prayer (Abu Umamah / Ibn Majah) when Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him will descend to the white Minaret (Nawwas-b-Samaan/Muslim) in the east of Damascus, wearing two garments died with saffron, placing his hands on the wings of two angels. All those that are present will recognise him, as he will look exactly like the how the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) described Jesus (peace be upon him). Resembling the Sahabi Urwa bin Masood (Abu- Huraira/ Muslim) the colour of his skin will be reddish white (Ibn Abbas/ Bukhari), he will be well built and his hair will be soft and reach his ears. When he lowers his head, beads of perspiration will fall from it and when he raises his head, beads like pearls will scatter from it. (Nawwas-b-Samaan Muslim). Every Kaafir (disbeliever) who smells his sweet breath will die and his breath will reach as far as he can see. On seeing prophet Jesus Peace be upon him, Imaam Mahdi will take a couple of steps backwards so Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him can lead the prayer however Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him will place his hands on the Imaam's shoulder and will say, ''Go forward and lead the prayer as the Iqamah was made for you'' thus Imaam Mahdi will lead the prayer. (Abu Umamah/ Ibne-Majah).
After the prayer Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him
will say, ''Open the gate.'' The gate will be opened
and the Dajjal will be waiting behind it accompanied
by an army of 70,000 Jews, each armed with a sword and shield. The Dajjal on seeing Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him among the Muslims will begin to dissolve like salt in water and will begin to flee.
Prophet JesusPeace be upon him will say to him,
''You will remain alive until I strike you with my
spear.'' He will catch up with him at the Eastern gate
of Ludd (Ludd is a mountain in Syria. Some say that it is a village in Jerusalem, and some say that it is a
village in Palestine) and then Prophet JesusPeace be
upon him will kill him with a small spear.
The Muslims will thereafter defeat and wipe out
Dajjal's army. The Jews will not be able to hide
behind anything on that day. Every time they try to
hide behind a stone, a wall, a tree (except a boxthorn tree), or animal. Allah will make these things speak and they will say, ''O servant of Allah there is a Jew hiding behind me. come kill him.''

The Wisdom in the Descension of Prophet Jesus
(Peace be upon him)

The Ulama of the Ahlus Sunnah w'al-Jama'ah have
given many different reasons in the returning of
Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him to this world or the second time. A few are listed below:

1) The Jews believe that they had killed Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him, Allah will send him before the end of time to prove that they had not killed him and that he is alive. It is he who will kill the Jews and
their leader Dajjal. (Fathul - Bari)

2) Some Ulama have said that Prophet Jesus Peace
be upon him found many virtues of the followers of
Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings be upon
him in the bible and thus he prayed to Allah to make him amongst the Ummah of Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings be upon him. Allah answered his prayer and he will return for the second time as one of the followers of Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings be upon him. (Ibn-Kathir)

3) It is the Law of Allah that anything that is created
from the Earth has to be buried in the Earth and not
the Heavens. Thus he will return to the Earth for the
second time, kill the Dajjal, live for a period of time
and then he will die a natural death and will be
buried with the Prophet Muhammad Peace and
blessings be upon him. (Ashratus-Sa'ah).

SALAM

www.muftisays.com/blog/Seifeddine-M/1035_23-01-2011/return-of-prophet-isa-(jesus).html

Hey, move your trash to your terrorist section.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by 5minsmadness: 12:52pm On Jul 26, 2015

legatto:
Thousands of generation has passed nd will continue to pass, or do u mean you will still be on earth in year 4001, its not happening no sentiment

You humans are so thick u can't understand. Only two days have passed. We are still in the second day infact. Christ will come at the end of the third day.
I can give u the year if u like but nothing more.

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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Chomzy19(f): 12:53pm On Jul 26, 2015

Reiyvinn:
*chuckles* ne kwa omuaka, these people wanna take me back to my Bible Exposition days.

Alright, let me give you an exegesis of the Kingdom, according to the Bible.

What is a Kingdom?

In the Greek New Testament, the word translated as "Kingdom" is "Basileia" which, according to Strong's Concordance #932 means:

"the realm in which a king sovereignly rules"

_________________________

What is a Church?

In the Greek NT, the word translated as "Church" is "Ekklésia" which, according to Strong's Concordance #1577, means:

"a Congregation or an Assembly"

and on philosophical terms, a Christian breaks the word down "ek" (out of) and "klésia" (called) and thus defines it as:

"Those called by Christ out of the World"

_________________________

Now, look at the two:

* Kingdom of God

* Church of God

Are they the same?
Is the Church of God the Establishment of the Kingdom of God??

Hell no.

While praying the Lord's prayer, Jesus said two things:

* Thy Kingdom come

* Let your will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

What is this will?

In the Bible, heaven is a realm in which God sovereignly rules without rival.
That's his Kingdom.

But Earth is not yet a part of that Kingdom.

The Bible states that the Devil is the Ruler and God of this World (John 12:31; 2 Corinthians 4:4)

and according to the same Bible, you cannot have two masters/rulers (Matthew 6:24)

Therefore, the World is not the Kingdom of God at the moment but the Kingdom of Satan. (according to the Bible).

The Church is the Infilteration of God's Kingdom into Satan's Domain in an attempt to grow by converting members/citizens of that Domain.

When the Number grows, the Son of man will come and battle the ruler of that domain, destroy the remnants of its citizens and make Earth the Kingdom of God. That is when the will in heaven is done on earth.

Jesus' death and resurrection was the birth of a new people (Sons) who will infilterate that Domain until he comes ("Occupy till I come" - Luke 19:13)

and the Kingdom attained at the defeat of the Devil

HOWEVER,
Jesus promised that the Son of man will come in his Kingdom before that generation passes away and that some of them would see it in their lifetime.

Well, did they??

No.

It was a failed prophecy my dear.

But now I have one problem.

The Holy Spirit is telling Ayoku777 that the Kingdom is already here and was established at the resurrection of Jesus (i.e the Son came in his Kingdom)

The same Holy Spirit is telling Malvisguy212 that Jesus was talking about being revealed to John before the end of the century.

Is this the same Holy Spirit you tell Atheists, Freethinkers, Muslims, Hindus, e.t.c to turn to whenever they don't "understand" certain Bible teachings

A Holy Spirit that appears confused as this won't teach me any meaningful thing, unless of course, these niggas are just conjuring up interpretations from a default, phantasmagoric Christian mind.

Cheers.

hehehe... If you want to know when the end of world will be read matthew 24. The kingdom of God is nt d end of age, the kingdom is already est. In d heart of every bliver. The second coming wch will b at the end of the world is nt what that passage of the bible is talking about. It talks about the son of man coming as king wch has already hapnd weda u accept his kingship or not.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by 5minsmadness: 12:54pm On Jul 26, 2015

teeowl:
Catholics predicted the 2nd coming of Christ several times... Jehovah's witnesses predicted the end of days 5 times and still nothing... A lot of times we are stuck in - "I must believe".

PS: Just like the hell campaigners, when I ask them this question, what happens to Generations that never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel of Jesus, do they get automatic heaven or do they go straight to hell? ... There is usually a look of confusion when I ask them that question.

They must be very ignorant to have that look then. There is no confusion there at all.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by ajos145(m): 12:55pm On Jul 26, 2015

My brother in d lord, it takes God's spirit to interprete bible passages. In Matthew 16:28, d "THERE ARE SOME STANDING HERE" in dat bible passage wasnt actually refering to d people of Jesus' time but THOSE WHO WOULD BE "HERE" on "EARTH" at d time of His 2nd coming. This also applicable to Mark 13:30, "THIS GENERATION" in d passage also refering to d GENERATION that will witness d 2nd coming of Jesus Christ NOT Jesus' time generation

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Ganjafama(m): 12:56pm On Jul 26, 2015

The Isrealites whom God called "His Own People" do not even believe in Jesus. They see him as a criminal who tried to go against their religion. Today Israel practice Judaism. They dont believe in all these hell-fire mumbo jumbo. Are we now saying that christianity is the "only" way to God? Meaning that all muslims, buddhists, hindhus, taoist,jains, judaism adherent and others are all wasting their time? Inshort, I tire for religion sef.

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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by tobnical(m): 12:59pm On Jul 26, 2015

Jesus is surely coming again. It is never a failed prophecy but a postponed prophecy. God in his infinite wisdom and omnipotence know the best time Jesus should come. It is only delayed but it will surely come to fulfilment.

His coming is imminent and it will be sudden. It will meet so many people unaware and when it happens, it will be too late for doubters to make any amendments.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by herald9: 1:00pm On Jul 26, 2015

5minsmadness:
You dey craze wey u dey quote me?!?!? Am coming!! (goes to look for bottle to break on his head)
.....
......
...... You see how coming and going can have the same context?

Your madness don pass 5mins o grin

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by sodson11(m): 1:04pm On Jul 26, 2015

Wait, isn't it the same Bible we all read? How come I don't know all this things.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by kingviny: 1:06pm On Jul 26, 2015*

@reiyvinn
@atlantian

It is good to read from people like you. You can both see how religion's teachings cannot really give clarity with respect to divine proclamations. Your spirits are now seeking for answers. And indeed there are perfect and logical answers to your very important questions.

The Word of Truth which is a continuation and a consolidation of the TRUE teachings of Jesus is now available on earth. If you are fortunate to come across it, then all the things you are now asking and the ones you are yet to ask will be clear to you. Reject all blind faith and teachings.

I am going to give answers to your questions @reiyvinn in a manner different from what others have been stating here because I am going to draw from this Word of Truth and not from the source of the controversy. What you then make of it is left to the dictate of your spirit which will always sense the truth in an un-biased state.

Let me first give clarity to the words you quoted :-

". . .this generation will by no means pass away until these things happen. . ."

The Lord Jesus in His divine wisdom and His clairvoyant capabilities was actually talking about The Pisces generation (age). Jesus came to earth during the Pisces age and he was telling his followers that the apocalypse MUST come to pass before the new age of Aquarius will begin.

There are twelve ages in the Time of our universe. The Pisces age symbolized by a FISH is one of the ages. Each age span over 2160 years. The age of Pisces is about to complete and the apocalypses as foretold by Jesus and by many prophets will come to pass.The next generation (the age of Aquarius) will be the period when a model kingdom of God will be established on earth under the leadership of the Son of Man. Any wonder, fish was made reference to alot during Jesus' time?

"Truly I say to you that there are some of those standing here that will not taste death at all until they see the Son of man coming in His Kingdom."

Our Lord, the reedemer, Jesus was talking about the last grace that will be permitted to many people who lived during his time then to come back to atone or to serve the son of man in this present time.

Physical death is different from Spiritual death. The lord was referring to spiritual death because he knew that physical death is just a temporary phenominum in the entire journey of a human being. None of us living on earth right now is a stranger to this earth. Amongst us today are those who lived during the time of Jesus. Even though they are in another human bodies and perhaps in different countries, and they are not even aware of their past, they are still the same spirits who lived on earth during the time of Jesus.

Spirits who however fails in the coming final judgment will experience spiritual death, which is a one off event. Such a spirit will then revert back to being a spirit seed after years of severe and painful dis-integration, a terrible fate to befall a spirit that started his journey several millions of years ago.

Many people died physically yet they came back to life, that should tell us that physical death is definately not the end of life.

And as for spirits coming back in different bodies, Jesus Himself told us that John the baptist was Elijah. The spirit who wore the body of John during the time of Jesus was the same who used the body of Elijah.

Do not listen to wiseacres who definately cannot be wiser than Jesus. Re-incarnation is a reality.
Even the natives are aware of this fact until the false interpreters of divine teachings came. They distorted many things that is the reason why there are so many confusion today. Only re-incarnation can explain the differences in destinies. Our pasts are responsible for our present and our present will be responsible for our future. However, our time is almost up! the future is either spiritual death or spiritual bliss for the goats and the sheep respectively.

As for the exact day, no man knows, only God and His 2 Sons knows.

As for your main question:-

The link below should be sufficient enough. The coming of the Messiah is nearer and it is a reality. I wish you the grace needed to make it.

https://www.nairaland.com/2462151/vision-imminent-judgement-earth-must

The word of Jesus will surely come to pass.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Neemee: 1:06pm On Jul 26, 2015

Op, is that not what faith in Christendom essentially represents? - to believe in Him even when there isn't a physical reason to. Or, better still, did you personally seek Him devoutly and convincingly and He still couldn't show u a sign, at the very least?

Why are you trying to sow seeds of misgiving and dismay (and doing it "perfectly" with the ability to play on words) in the hearts of God's people? "To whose benefit?", I wonder.

If you are that tired, and can't seem to wait it out for His second coming, why not consider dying, already? And let those who are given to having faith in Him, while striving to do His will do the "worrying".

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by olalat(m): 1:07pm On Jul 26, 2015

Dont u think dat makes one foolish dogmatic person with low level logical thinking nd reason? Help me out pls.

Jollyjoy:
Op no one can tell,as a matter of fact,most pastors are actually in doubt of the second coming,the few who even tried to defend the second coming failed because of insufficient back up from the bible,but God work in ways men can"t fathom,hence we should try to believe without doubt,let try to put our hope in him because none knows, even pastors are as confused as yhu and i, we keep hearing,the kingdom of God is at hand" but for how long? Since no man know it not,let just believe what we are told and what we read about....

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Nobody: 1:08pm On Jul 26, 2015

My question is, how much pain, suffering, loss and mishaps must mankind endure before the end comes ?

Is suffering just for the sake of it and why can it not end now ??

What about 80% of mankind who are not expecting a second coming, was it intentional to keep them in doubt and then catch them by surprise ?

And for those who keep saying use the Holy Spirit, is this not the easiest way out of matters beyond your comprehension ?

While I still harbour hope that one day God will make things anew , it is very confusing that no end or respite seems to be in sight at the present for the plight of mankind.

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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 1:08pm On Jul 26, 2015

mubarakopeyemi:
Prophet Muhammad PBUH even said it that Iesa ibn Maryam. Jesus the son of mary will come back during the end time. He shall come and destroy Al massih AdDajjal (The Messiah Imposter) and he shall spread Islam with Quran and Hadith.

Prophet Jesus's (Peace be upon him) Tasks

Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him will have three
main tasks, when he descends on the Earth for the
second time:
1) The first and most important will be that he will
destroy the Dajjal.
2) Protect the Muslims from the barbarous tribes of
Yajuj and Majuj by taking them to Mount Tur and
then Praying for their (Yajuj and Majuj's) destruction.
3) Reign as a Khalif according to the Quran and
Sunnah and elevate Islam.
Prophet Jesus's (Peace be upon him) descent and
the killing of Masih ad-Dajjal

The Dajjal (anti-christ) having failed to enter the holy city of Madinah will proceed to Syria gathering his forces on the way.
Imaam Mahdi will have arranged the Muslim army
and will be on the verge of leading the Muslims in the morning prayer (Abu Umamah / Ibn Majah) when Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him will descend to the white Minaret (Nawwas-b-Samaan/Muslim) in the east of Damascus, wearing two garments died with saffron, placing his hands on the wings of two angels. All those that are present will recognise him, as he will look exactly like the how the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) described Jesus (peace be upon him). Resembling the Sahabi Urwa bin Masood (Abu- Huraira/ Muslim) the colour of his skin will be reddish white (Ibn Abbas/ Bukhari), he will be well built and his hair will be soft and reach his ears. When he lowers his head, beads of perspiration will fall from it and when he raises his head, beads like pearls will scatter from it. (Nawwas-b-Samaan Muslim). Every Kaafir (disbeliever) who smells his sweet breath will die and his breath will reach as far as he can see. On seeing prophet Jesus Peace be upon him, Imaam Mahdi will take a couple of steps backwards so Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him can lead the prayer however Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him will place his hands on the Imaam's shoulder and will say, ''Go forward and lead the prayer as the Iqamah was made for you'' thus Imaam Mahdi will lead the prayer. (Abu Umamah/ Ibne-Majah).
After the prayer Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him
will say, ''Open the gate.'' The gate will be opened
and the Dajjal will be waiting behind it accompanied
by an army of 70,000 Jews, each armed with a sword and shield. The Dajjal on seeing Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him among the Muslims will begin to dissolve like salt in water and will begin to flee.
Prophet JesusPeace be upon him will say to him,
''You will remain alive until I strike you with my
spear.'' He will catch up with him at the Eastern gate
of Ludd (Ludd is a mountain in Syria. Some say that it is a village in Jerusalem, and some say that it is a
village in Palestine) and then Prophet JesusPeace be
upon him will kill him with a small spear.
The Muslims will thereafter defeat and wipe out
Dajjal's army. The Jews will not be able to hide
behind anything on that day. Every time they try to
hide behind a stone, a wall, a tree (except a boxthorn tree), or animal. Allah will make these things speak and they will say, ''O servant of Allah there is a Jew hiding behind me. come kill him.''

The Wisdom in the Descension of Prophet Jesus
(Peace be upon him)

The Ulama of the Ahlus Sunnah w'al-Jama'ah have
given many different reasons in the returning of
Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him to this world or the second time. A few are listed below:

1) The Jews believe that they had killed Prophet Jesus Peace be upon him, Allah will send him before the end of time to prove that they had not killed him and that he is alive. It is he who will kill the Jews and
their leader Dajjal. (Fathul - Bari)

2) Some Ulama have said that Prophet Jesus Peace
be upon him found many virtues of the followers of
Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings be upon
him in the bible and thus he prayed to Allah to make him amongst the Ummah of Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings be upon him. Allah answered his prayer and he will return for the second time as one of the followers of Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings be upon him. (Ibn-Kathir)

3) It is the Law of Allah that anything that is created
from the Earth has to be buried in the Earth and not
the Heavens. Thus he will return to the Earth for the
second time, kill the Dajjal, live for a period of time
and then he will die a natural death and will be
buried with the Prophet Muhammad Peace and
blessings be upon him. (Ashratus-Sa'ah).

SALAM

www.muftisays.com/blog/Seifeddine-M/1035_23-01-2011/return-of-prophet-isa-(jesus).html

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by legatto(m): 1:08pm On Jul 26, 2015

5minsmadness:
You humans are so thick u can't understand. Only two days have passed. We are still in the second day infact. Christ will come at the end of the third day.
I can give u the year if u like but nothing more.

spare me please and after the third day comes the fourth, what a joker. Not sounding rash its what they had made u believe, are u saying Jesus will come and witness the last day on earth nd the destruction of all planets, God does not put his own people to danger and nothing of such will happen

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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Nobody: 1:11pm On Jul 26, 2015

no matter the answer they give... when I reply... the look of confusion is still there.

5minsmadness:
They must be very ignorant to have that look then. There is no confusion there at all.

Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by BERNIMOORE: 1:13pm On Jul 26, 2015

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