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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 1:14pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
SalC: I hope you guys won't prompt me to start another episode of Religious Factualization of killings in the Bible. If Iesa (Jesus) doesn't kill/Destroy the anti christ. So the anti christ has taken over then. I used both kill and Destroy in the write up. What then is your stress Think with your brain. And see beyond hate I will reel out numerous killing intended verses in the bible for you. But I will not be forced to do so. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Symphony007: 1:15pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
MrPresident:indeed, there was a Jesus but Paul and Peter made him out to be what he never was.. ceaser Constantine and the early christian which is now the Catholic Church sealed the deal. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Nobody: 1:16pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
herald9:You know the alternate monikers getting on my nerves on the other thread, same dude you quoted now owns it. So, I am not interested in quoting him. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 1:16pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
free2ryhme: A wise man once told me; Do not argue with fools, because people from a distance can't tell who is who. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by An2elect2(f): 1:21pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
You see why we need to know the true gospel and preach it False gospels only give birth to false conversions. The op was never a part of the church of Christ, his posts prove that. If he leaves, it is for our own good. This is what the bible says about those who claim to be Christians before. They went out from us, but they were not really of us; FOR IF THEY HAD BEEN OF US, THEY WOULD HAVE REMAINED WITH US; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us. 1 John 2:19. You are unwise if you think they were part of the body of Christ. 1 Like |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by BERNIMOORE: 1:25pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
@Reiyvinn you had your question answered already man! Let's see your question again! Reiyvinn:Answer; Anas09:the desire of God is that everyone should not be perished and that account for why God did Not bring the kingdom then but extended it even till our day, Jesus actually made that statement that God wasn't bound to strictly adhere to because Jesus is not same person as his father who holds the last order (trinitarians might have problem with this part) Gods love and desire for our repentance can change Gods timing of event but it must surely pass. Jonah is an example of a prophet sent by God to pronounce destruction on Nineveh, God never told jonah to give a time limit but jonah went ahead to pronounce 40 days, on repentance by the ninevites Jonah felt stupid and groan about facing same people when 40days never be! Because God never directed jonah to fix 40 days time in the first place. 2 Peter 3:10 up there reiterates that 'it will surely come to pass, I will lastly advice you to think of one imminent end beside you......death, that alone should make you amend your ways and be found righteous instead of scoffing the prophecy of which the timing only change and not the occurrence which will surely come. I can see that you already doubt Jesus existence already which means that no amount of explanation will be considered by you because you have 'already made up your mind! Your post below reveals to me why it will be difficult convincingly you! Reiyvinn: Now, back to the passage, we all know that everyone "standing [t]here" are now dead, buried and forgotten (that's assuming Jesus even existed)so objective minded people will see that your question is answered thanks |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by SalC: 1:26pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi:Who cares what you will reel out of the bible or koran? Am more concerned about your belief of how you muslims will kill jews bla bla bla, that's why you people keep challenging the jews and they keep dealing you mortal blows. The day you all learn to let them be and they learn to let you be, the world will become a better place. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Raotito(m): 1:28pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by mymz(f): 1:30pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
Now darling, there are things we know are known - Known knowns e.g 1+1 = 2, The USA is actually Big brother etc and there are those we know we don't know - Known unknowns e.g Cure to cancer, did my late dad actually Bleep his best friend's wife on that boat cruise? and there are those we don't know we know - unknown knowns e.g our individual potentials for great evil as well as great good then there are those we don't know we don't know - Unknown unknowns e.g where's Hell and heaven located? What next after death? Since we are not spiritual beings, we may never know or understand what obtains in the spiritual realm; which is what most of the book of Revelations, the second coming, hell and heaven is pretty much all about. Faith however, is our decision for personal conviction. It makes no sense questioning what you have chosen to believe. Note the word "Chosen" Thus i urge you to focus more on the knowns and the unknowns that can be known, for therein lies all that we need to live a happy, simple and fulfilled life (or not, if you choose). Judgement shall be delivered justly and equitably amongst all. Verily verily i say unto thee brother, go forth and live placidly now; eat with relish, have great sex and make impact where you can, for one can live forever when the sands of time has no other option but to remember you. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 1:32pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
SalC: Let's leave everything to God. A day shall come when everyone will understand. Salam. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by ThaThinka: 1:32pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
@OP, so you finally made it to the front page, as you desired? Good for you, but you didn't use the opportunity very well, in my own opinion. The phrase, 'that's assuming Jesus even existed,' suggests your doubt in Jesus. I wonder if you even believe in God, or will continue to. You don't subject the word of God to scientific evaluation. I'm sure you've heard the word 'faith.' That is only relevant when you do not yet have what is promised, but you have confidence that you eventually will. Christianity is about faith -- believing without seeing. The Good Lord even said, 'blessed are those who have not seen, but yet believed.' It's pointless debating whether Jesus exists or if he will come back again. Your argument is similar to that on the end of the world, as to whether it's real. Once a person dies, his world has thus ended and after that comes either heaven or hell. Just try to follow what Jesus taught on how to live a life pleasing to your Creator. The truth is: your doubt about the existence of something will not make that thing to stop being in existence. If God and Jesus don't exist, you will lose nothing by living in line with laid-down precepts. But someone stands at risk of eternal damnation if he were to find out after his death that the things he failed to believe in were indeed right or true. You don't attempt to understand the things of God in the same way you seek to grasp mathematical and scientific concepts. Leave anything beyond your understanding, at a time, to God and work on the ones you understand. 'And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.' 2 Cor. 4:3 'For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.' 1 Cor. 1:18 |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by loomy(m): 1:33pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
The wisdom of God is not revealed to a knowledgeable mind (This does not take away the importance of knowledge) but to a humble and loving mind. It is us who need help, not God. He that must come to Him must believe that He exists and He is the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. Ppl like Reiyvinn seek knowledge for the wrong reason. I'm sorry if that sounds offensive, I mean no offence. I do what pays me and Christ pays me. Kudos to soldiers like Ayoku, Starlingslimnet, malvisguy, spectabilis. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by SalC: 1:36pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi:No wahala. Shalom. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by herald9: 1:37pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
FrancisTony:Start gathering your nerves and act like a man. Stop spreading it around so people won't step on them. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by BERNIMOORE: 1:42pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi:killings in the Bible was not carried out by Christians but the Israelites who were not Christians, neither were Christians directed to kill the way quaran directed Muslims to kill, you can just bring only one verse and let's treat it don't post 2 bible verses for clarity sake can you? Oya now if you get the liver |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by ajos145(m): 1:43pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
Brethren, it takes God's spirit to interprete bible passages. In Matthew 16:28, d "THERE ARE SOME STANDING HERE" in dat bible passage wasnt actually refering to d people of Jesus' time but THOSE WHO WOULD BE "HERE" on "EARTH" at d time of His 2nd coming. This also applicable to Mark 13:30, "THIS GENERATION" in d passage also refering to d GENERATION that will witness d 2nd coming of Jesus Christ NOT Jesus' time generation |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Ebi89(f): 1:43pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by musicwriter(m): 1:44pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
Reiyvinn: So, do you believe in God because the bible or Koran wrote about him?. I for one do not believe in God because of the bible, but because of my personal conviction that he exist. If there were no bible or pastors, I would still have believed in God. I urge you to believe in God and do what is right. The holy books were written by human beings, and as such are prone to mistakes. We all know we're not perfect. Of course, if an author writes a book, there will be one or two mistakes here and there, or may be something you don't understand. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by oskaaay(m): 1:44pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
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Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by viktor01(m): 1:48pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
for the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of men...... Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. col 2:8 1 Like |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by davien(m): 1:49pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
clefstone:transfiguration/changing shape to access heaven = second coming lol! |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Nobody: 1:50pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
Reiyvinn:Before you interpret any portion of the bible, be sure to have mastered ancient Hebrew, ancient Aramaic, ancient Greek, History etc. Otherwise you may find that you are playing with fire. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by EazyMoh(m): 1:54pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
Jollyjoy:The second coming is true, just like the first coming. The Bible has suffered serious omissions, substitutions, adulterations, mistakes and outright ridicule over the ages. that's why it's impossible to try to explain even the most fundamental aspects of Christianity by logical reasoning. Interestingly, Islam also affirms the second coming, just not when and how Christianity propose it ( just like the first coming). Many Christians do not know that all the true and correct version of Biblical stories and prophesies are actually well explained in a straight and unambiguous manner in the Quran. I enjoin all my Christian brothers and sisters to research Islamic explanations about Jesus (AS), likes works of Ahmad Deed at, Khalid Yaseen, and Zakir Naik. NB: no offence intended. happy sunday. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Layi9: 1:55pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
op,u shud try reading d english translation of d quran,i bet u u'll be amazed by its proficiency and majesty |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by 11Eleven: 1:56pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
Well... One thing I will say here is that the fact it has not happened or doesn't seem to be happening soon doesn't make it a failed prophecy. Justice delayed is not Justice Denied. Jesus coming delay is not a prophecy failure. Don't be deceived. Delay is for people to change before its too late. Grace Period. A short dream I had sometime ago..... I saw Jesus crying and pleading as the Angels where prepared and ready to blow the trumpet. Very much ready...I woke up trembling. Real Dream. Am not a Pastor, I dream and sing hymn in my dreams. And I don't go to church. Can't even remember last time I was in Church. Ignore any distraction of Prophecy Failure. 1 Like |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Dindondin(m): 1:59pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
Reiyvinn:Your question has been answered. Last Bullet The today Jesus meant is the time of His 2nd coming. Which is the end time. For example, our present day. If Jesus comes now, surely He ll meet you & I alive. Even if He comes in a 100, 1000 or 2000 years time, there ll be people alive to see the rapture. Don't say Christians are now words twisters who changes the Scripture to suit them. I tell you, there are people who know what they worship. ________________________ About the demanding life of a Christian, I ll say it's not easy. But God gives grace. And when you think of the reward after your service to God, you ll not want to miss it. I know the reason why many Christians turn to atheism, Islam or other believes & I won't blame them. I see the reason why they question many parts of the Bible. But that's a topic for another time. I always advice Christians with shaky faith to use a market formula. Which is: Even if everything about Christianity was fake, lie etc and there was no rapture, judgement etc. A believer has not lost. He or she only missed out on the wordly enjoyment & pay the sacrifices of being a Christian. But if Christ is real and there is rapture, judgement, hell etc. A person that didn't accept Christ or died in sin is doomed. Those descriptions of the book of Revelation is bad. So... it's left for people to choose wisely. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by 5minsmadness: 2:00pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
legatto:Lol Why would God destroy all the planets? The second coming talks of the reaping of this planet only. It's ok if you don't believe. It won't stop it from happening. And no, God's people won't be in any danger. 1 Like |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Dontintin: 2:00pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
I feel very disgusted at times when fellow Christians become abrasive even with language from the bible, when people share very thoughtful questions that may actually seem reasonable at face value. I'd like to encourage that when questions are asked like the op of this, please let's answer the question. Let's try to avoid insults. And please don't give another quotation that does not address the question asked. Let's be civil. We don't win by placing ourselves on a 'holier than thou' pedestal. Some these atheits are better people than us when we judge thier lives. For the question raised, I think it has been addressed a little though in a manner I am not happy with. The coming there is not same as the second coming, I refer you to Mathew 13:38 and 41. Also I will advice that the bible as it is today can be a death trap. Let's not read and interprete in isolation. Look for possible different explanations. 3 Likes |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Greatfes17: 2:05pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
One issue people will continue to face is trying to understand and explain the Bible in terms of "science." Remember science is knowing then believing but Faith (i.e Christianity) is about believing then trying to know more... Op, I believe you know it took long for the prophecy of the coming messiah to be fulfilled? |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by histemple: 2:05pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
Personally, I think we should just believe that there is a supreme power that created us and everything around us. Trying to understand the bible can be so frustrating because the bible itself has so many contradictions. This is why I feel sorry for Christians who castigates other religions. There is hardly any way of life that is not permitted by the bible. I recently discovered that the bible instructed Christians to kill (utterly destroy) anybody who doesn't believe and worship God....Exodus. 22:20 There is no scripture in the bible that specifically tells exactly what year Jesus will come again or when the world will be destroyed. The best advice is for us to do what is good to others and shun evil. |
Re: The Second Coming: A Failed Prophecy??? by Jeromejnr(m): 2:06pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
Stillfire: Now this is the correct answer right here. |
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