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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Fhemmmy: 6:07pm On Aug 12, 2015
standupguy:


My entire family lives here in Naija except my older bro who completed his post graduate degree in Canada.

I have an employment and little assets and finance as shown above.
not sure what else would suvice for home tie, it wasn't highlighted though.

Did you send them a letter from your employer that your job will be waiting for you while you are gone? Mind you families living in Nigeria is not enough as the distance between and them is a flight ticket. . . .Further more, did you indicate in your SOP that your brother studied in Canada and if i may ask, where is that your brother today, in Canada or he returned back to Nigeria after his studies?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by fabiyi78(m): 6:08pm On Aug 12, 2015
twizzie:
What kind of visa are you applying for? To the best of my knowledge, if it is non-immigrant, you do not need any kind of medicals! You get your visa on the spot..
is a non immigrant visa tnx 4 dat
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by olageeee(m): 6:24pm On Aug 12, 2015
No must of justice in this part of the world anyway like my friend has said....


I would say our GOVT put us in this scenario we found ourselves It has gotten so bad that graduates are now being scammed just in search of a job,since our government are so incompetent to provide us with one...


We cant rely owe CIC to anything,no be person wan go dre country? and dey know all the loop holes of our dear country ...

We can only hope nd pray for the best my pple ....

A roommate I plan settling with if I eventually get diz ALMIGHTY TRV...his a mexican nd na just 10 days e take get hin pappers set...if naija betta who wan dey run up nd down....I can drive naked in naija if I get ma monie....u dre try that in oda country has an immigrant


Team hopeful

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by standupguy(m): 6:26pm On Aug 12, 2015
Fhemmmy:


Did you send them a letter from your employer that your job will be waiting for you while you are gone? Mind you families living in Nigeria is not enough as the distance between and them is a flight ticket. . . .Further more, did you indicate in your SOP that your brother studied in Canada and if i may ask, where is that your brother today, in Canada or he returned back to Nigeria after his studies?

The thing is my previous refusal never questioned these things, they only complained of finance so I assumed they were ok with those but finance.
Both previous refusuals were just Insufficient finance and personal assets, so does it mean I pay 40k application fee for them to review one aspect and ignore others?
My brother fortunately did well in school so he got employed immediately after graduation, he is still on his graduate work permit.
Yes it was clear that my brother came for education.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Fhemmmy: 6:29pm On Aug 12, 2015
standupguy:


The thing is my previous refusal never questioned these things, they only complained of finance so I assumed they were ok with those but finance.
Both previous refusuals were just Insufficient finance and personal assets, so does it mean I pay 40k application fee for them to review one aspect and ignore others?
My brother fortunately did well in school so he got employed immediately after graduation, he is still on his graduate work permit. I am even named next of kin on all his employment docs.

My brother, with the bold, it is more than enough for them to question if you would return back after your studies.
When you are re-applying too, never assume they will continue where they left off, it is a new application and leave no stone unturned

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by standupguy(m): 6:33pm On Aug 12, 2015
Fhemmmy:


My brother, with the bold, it is more than enough for them to question if you would return back after your studies.
When you are re-applying too, never assume they will continue where they left off, it is a new application and leave no stone unturned

of course the bolded in just between me and him.
How CIC wan take know that one.
Well I have no intention of reapplying because honestly it getting quit insulting. Begging for an over priced education with my own money? Haba e get as e be na.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by standupguy(m): 6:36pm On Aug 12, 2015
thesoj:
Boss, have you heard the Tupac song "the good die young"? That's my opinion about justice in the world -- it doesn't really exist. But we can always do our best and try to mitigate risks as best we can.


You done see am?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by ralfudoh(m): 6:38pm On Aug 12, 2015
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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by ralfudoh(m): 6:39pm On Aug 12, 2015
Inkblood:
please whats the difference between a graduate certificate and a graduate diploma?
Certification Programs

Certification programs are typically specialized in one specific skill or area, which you’ll study and learn in one or two courses. These programs don’t offer a broad overview of a field or industry, and are often a good option for someone who already has a degree or work experience in the field.
Let’s say, for example, that you’re an accountant with a bachelor’s degree. You want to get into forensic accounting because it’s a hot new part of the industry, but don’t want to go back to school for another degree. A forensic accounting certification will build on the accounting skills you already have, and teach you the need-to-know basics of forensic accounting.
Diploma Programs

Diploma programs, on the other hand, tend to be longer and more in-depth. They allow you to study a specific area of specialization and get a good overview of the field, without earning an actual degree.
These comprehensive programs are a great option for someone who wants to make a career change and get into a new field. If you were interested, for example, in a graphic design career, a graphic design diploma program would consist of multiple classes that would teach you fundamentals of graphic design, as well as different computer programs and technologies utilized in that industry.
Diplomas are primarily offered by Universities. They usually require a minimum of two years of study that has been approved by the Ministry of Training Colleges Universities.

Certificate Programs are often offered by Colleges and technical institutes. The programs tend to be shorter and more intensive. They often provide smaller class sizes and hands on learning experience.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 6:40pm On Aug 12, 2015
I don read am. I go email you.

standupguy:
You done see am?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Team12: 6:43pm On Aug 12, 2015
I promise grin Thanks

Fablady:
Congrats team12. Please promise us u will still be checking on this thread to help people like us on TRV applications. I really love your spirit! Shine on girl!

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Fhemmmy: 7:22pm On Aug 12, 2015
standupguy:


of course the bolded in just between me and him.
How CIC wan take know that one.
Well I have no intention of reapplying because honestly it getting quit insulting. Begging for an over priced education with my own money? Haba e get as e be na.

I asked you if you mentioned in your letter that you have a relation in Canada that left via student visa, if you never did, did your employer gave you any letter that your job will be waiting for you while you were away or not? I am yet to see something concrete as tie to homeland in what you said and i think that was the main thing here, there wont be much connection between your denied application and the new one, so if yo never submitted information about tie to Nigeria that will make you to wanna go back, that was an error.
Dont see it as an insult, see it as a delay and refire after tying all lose ends . . .see you in Canada

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by berexio1: 7:32pm On Aug 12, 2015
standupguy:
So my own wait is over so is my quest to study in Canada.
Got a refusal mail right now, abeg no condolence please, at least i have ascertained that CIC is an organization with no laid down procedure nor rules. My Only regret is that i should have listened to Mrnilbrown earlier.
After i was refused for insufficient available finance for tuition and living expenses in my first app.
The second app i was refused for insufficient available finance for living expenses and personal assets. (Both time my sponsors finance were very good but i didn't include my SOAs and Assets though i stated my employment status and earnings.


Well this time around it is purpose of visit and length of stay can you imagine that ?

Well this what i submitted for this final application

SOP
Letter of Introduction from Employer
My SOAs 250K, 50K, 10K
My Fixed deposit 2.2M (This fixed deposit was made since Dec last year).
My Stock evaluation and portfolio (250k).
Tuition receipt Payment (27,205 CAD).
Degree result
Neco result
My Resume

Sponsors Affidavit of sponsorship.
Sponsors Letter of intro from Employer stating salary (8M).
Sponsors SOAs 3.4M/1M.
Sponsors Property documents.
Birth certificate.

I changed institutions from Conestoga to Centennial because my program at conestoga didn't have a September intake.
Both programs where the same and post graduate programs and i explained this in my SOP and even put there website to buttress my point.

What i would like to know is how CIC suddenly realized that they dont understand my purpose of visit and length of stay after two applications were refused for financial reasons but not for purpose of visit sounds quite phony.
In conclusion CIC is rogue organization!!!!!

Well it has been a pleasure being part of this wonderful family.
Thanks to everyone and God bless you all









This CIC pple are so annoying. Your docs were so onpoint.
2 questions I wanna ask...

Who are ur sponsors?Parents?
Secondly,ur headed to Ontario right?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by vinegar: 7:36pm On Aug 12, 2015
Just tracked and saw that my passport has been dispatched today...no approval mail yet...Well am hopeful sha...

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by ahyotomiwa: 7:36pm On Aug 12, 2015
I guess d point standupguy was makin was..instead of ticking dat e might not return based on CIC reg n Act..sinx e submitted same app 1st tym with changes only in d financials..den his first app shd av bin rejected based on financials n also d nonsatisfctn dat e mit not leav...wch to an extent "questions aw dey apply dere immigration codes to prospective applicants...chikena
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Fhemmmy: 7:38pm On Aug 12, 2015
olageeee:
No must of justice in this part of the world anyway like my friend has said....


I would say our GOVT put us in this scenario we found ourselves It has gotten so bad that graduates are now being scammed just in search of a job,since our government are so incompetent to provide us with one...


We cant rely owe CIC to anything,no be person wan go dre country? and dey know all the loop holes of our dear country ...

We can only hope nd pray for the best my pple ....

A roommate I plan settling with if I eventually get diz ALMIGHTY TRV...his a mexican nd na just 10 days e take get hin pappers set...if naija betta who wan dey run up nd down....I can drive naked in naija if I get ma monie....u dre try that in oda country has an immigrant


Team hopeful

USA, Canada and Mexico are all in same group and they work together, so you cant use that as a comparison.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by wealthyexcel: 7:51pm On Aug 12, 2015
LOVINA1245:


your luggage is safe + u'll be given a locker. never heard of saint andrew.. my advise: get here before you start house hunting... you can catch a ubc 22 bus heading to ubc from downtown. (hi jericho). the sweet thing is u'll get an apt to move in once u land.. of course, thats if you have cash. apts are plenri... but your taste is what counts. so get here, and u'll get apts in the next 1 hour

That's a huge relief, thanks. I hope I'll meet you when I come in next week, you've been really helpful. Cheers
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by standupguy(m): 8:04pm On Aug 12, 2015
[quote author=berexio1 post=36890740]This CIC pple are so annoying. Your docs were so onpoint.
2 questions I wanna ask...

Who are ur sponsors?Parents?
Secondly,ur headed to Ontario right?[/quote


Older Sister ( senior banking official).
Yes Ontario.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by berexio1: 8:16pm On Aug 12, 2015
So CIC still questioned standupguy's purpose of visit after paying tuition and writing powerful SOP.

His assets were okay, that's why it wasn't ticked..If anyone is giving a reason why he was refused, it should be related to these reasons oo.

For me, I feel they now don't buy the idea of doing PGD, maybe masters is now their new logo.Or maybe the non-parent sponsor thing. Which one come be length of study again?How many years do they want him to study again? They should just tell him na if na 6months dem want make he stay there.

I feel really pained sha...

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by standupguy(m): 8:21pm On Aug 12, 2015
Fhemmmy:


I asked you if you mentioned in your letter that you have a relation in Canada that left via student visa, if you never did, did your employer gave you any letter that your job will be waiting for you while you were away or not? I am yet to see something concrete as tie to homeland in what you said and i think that was the main thing here, there wont be much connection between your denied application and the new one, so if yo never submitted information about tie to Nigeria that will make you to wanna go back, that was an error.
Dont see it as an insult, see it as a delay and refire after tying all lose ends . . .see you in Canada

I submitted letter of employment but not a study leave which indicates the job will be waiting for me because honestly I don't believe that a job can wait for anyone for two yrs in Nigeria, it just doesn't sound and look right to me.
In my gcms file from my last app the V.O made a note that I wanted to join my brother because my school happened to be in the town where he lives now because I had no money to finance my education, so I had to clarify that by proving to them that he was still a student in another school and town at the time of my application so there assumption for false and unfounded but a mere coincidence which it truly was.

Finally my question is why didn't they highlight this in my previous refusals, two preivois refusal only talked about funds? Nothing changed so why didn't the two previous V.Os see this the reasons too?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by standupguy(m): 8:30pm On Aug 12, 2015
berexio1:
So CIC still questioned standupguy's purpose of visit after paying tuition and writing powerful SOP.

His no assets were okay, that's why it wasn't ticked..If anyone is giving a reason why he was refused, it should be related to these reasons oo.

For me, I feel they now don't buy the idea of doing PGD, maybe masters is now their new logo.Or maybe the non-parent sponsor thing. Which one come be length of study again?How many years do they want him to study again? They should just tell him na if na 6months dem want make he stay there.

I feel really pained sha...

Personally I believe my indictment was because I have a brother in Canada. Which is funny because he sn't a nuisance but actually contributing his quota to development of the country.

Secondlt this there new found love for Msc applicant is something else to consider.

People still present none relative sponsors and get TRV.
So I don't think is has anything to do with my sponsor.

I wonder how I would have paidall that tuition to be purposeless in Canada.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by berexio1: 8:36pm On Aug 12, 2015
standupguy:


I submitted letter of employment but not a study leave which indicates the job will be waiting for me because honestly I don't believe that a job can wait for anyone for two yrs in Nigeria, it just doesn't sound and look right to me.
In my gcms file from my last app the V.O made a note that I wanted to join my brother because my school happened to be in the town where he lives now because I had no money, so I had to clarify that by proving to them that he was still a student in another school and town at the time of my application so there assumption for false and unfounded.

Finally my question is why didn't they highlight this in my previous refusals, two preivois refusal only talked about funds? Nothing changed so why didn't the two previous V.Os see this the reasons too?
oh they said all these in ur gcms? In ur previous app, u just filled ur brother's address in canada in the family form right? That's what brought the assumption that u wanted to stay with him in the first place right?

Secondly, I think most of the VOs that pick up a file will most likely treat it as a fresh application. Am sure that's what they have been told to do. These pple don't even have time to read SOP(that's my assumption).For me, documents are the best things to help create an impression of your application.Let's not forget that this can also be quota playing out..
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by olageeee(m): 8:42pm On Aug 12, 2015
They ain't that fair bro....lets call a spade a spade...they dont respect Africa nd middle east

Despite we are paying so heavily to get to study there,haba tink am now...if not dat uk don turn u done u home tinz...u get a reply in dayz nd when dey deny u,u knw wat rely went wrong

can u explain y CIC deny most applicants that have the right documents? yet they still got denied...most of us knw what we went tru to get thuan heavy moni to carry go canny go study ...our ijoba needs to stand up nd do sumfin....

If dre are gud job opportunities hre most nigerian youths no go dey patrol CIC LYK MARKET ...

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by standupguy(m): 8:48pm On Aug 12, 2015
berexio1:
oh they said all these in ur gcms? In ur previous app, u just filled ur brother's address in canada in the family form right? That's what brought the assumption that u wanted to stay with him in the first place right?

Secondly, I think most of the VOs that pick up a file will most likely treat it as a fresh application. Am sure that's what they have been told to do. These pple don't even have time to read SOP(that's my assumption).For me, documents are the best things to help create an impression of your application.Let's not forget that this can also be quota playing out..

Yeah they did, and I made sure I addressed it.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by berexio1: 8:54pm On Aug 12, 2015
standupguy:


Personally I believe my indictment was because I have a brother in Canada. Which is funny because he sn't a nuisance but actually contributing his quota to development of the country.

Secondlt this there new found love for Msc applicant is something else to consider.

People still present none relative sponsors and get TRV.
So I don't think is has anything to do with my sponsor.

I wonder how I would have paidall that tuition to be purposeless in Canada.
Your guess is as good as mine.My guess is that they have punched ur bro's name on the system and prolly knows he came in a student and he is working presently after studies..

Funny enuf Australia go embrace u with less of this wahala..
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 8:55pm On Aug 12, 2015
You're forgetting that applications get into the hands of different VOs, because VO1 and VO2 didn't have a problem with purpose and length of stay doesn't mean VO3 wouldn't. They judge based on individual discretion and that's what they apply to different applications. Some are nice enough to overlook certain things, others aren't.
+ they already know that standupguy's brother didn't come back after his studies whether he mentioned it or not and he's even going to the same town as his brother. They have it in their records. You sef check am na
It's truly unfair though, especially since he paid full tuition. It is well
ahyotomiwa:
I guess d point standupguy was makin was..instead of ticking dat e might not return based on CIC reg n Act..sinx e submitted same app 1st tym with changes only in d financials..den his first app shd av bin rejected based on financials n also d nonsatisfctn dat e mit not leav...wch to an extent "questions aw dey apply dere immigration codes to prospective applicants...chikena

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 8:56pm On Aug 12, 2015
Even though Mexico is the murder capital of the world. This life cry
Fhemmmy:


USA, Canada and Mexico are all in same group and they work together, so you cant use that as a comparison.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Fhemmmy: 9:09pm On Aug 12, 2015
standupguy:


I submitted letter of employment but not a study leave which indicates the job will be waiting for me because honestly I don't believe that a job can wait for anyone for two yrs in Nigeria, it just doesn't sound and look right to me.
In my gcms file from my last app the V.O made a note that I wanted to join my brother because my school happened to be in the town where he lives now because I had no money to finance my education, so I had to clarify that by proving to them that he was still a student in another school and town at the time of my application so there assumption for false and unfounded but a mere coincidence which it truly was.

Finally my question is why didn't they highlight this in my previous refusals, two preivois refusal only talked about funds? Nothing changed so why didn't the two previous V.Os see this the reasons too?

Without being a VO, what i see in the bold is:
1. Family reunion
2. Incapable to finance your education and might end up being a strain on the system
3. Soon, another one will join you 2 and making 3 from your family.
Mind you, i agree with you that some makes no sense, but you play into their hands and what is said in first refusal is of no point but how you have played into their hands.
Me and I know, no job will wait for you but it that is all they wanna hear for you to get your VISA, so be it, tell them what they wanna hear and move on with life.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Fhemmmy: 9:11pm On Aug 12, 2015
berexio1:
oh they said all these in ur gcms? In ur previous app, u just filled ur brother's address in canada in the family form right? That's what brought the assumption that u wanted to stay with him in the first place right?

Secondly, I think most of the VOs that pick up a file will most likely treat it as a fresh application. Am sure that's what they have been told to do. These pple don't even have time to read SOP(that's my assumption).For me, documents are the best things to help create an impression of your application.Let's not forget that this can also be quota playing out..

If they link all applications, but re-application will NEVER make it, so thank God for fresh treatment of applications for my people.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by berexio1: 9:38pm On Aug 12, 2015
Fhemmmy:


Without being a VO, what i see in the bold is:
1. Family reunion
2. Incapable to finance your education and might end up being a strain on the system
3. Soon, another one will join you 2 and making 3 from your family.
Mind you, i agree with you that some makes no sense, but you play into their hands and what is said in first refusal is of no point but how you have played into their hands.
Me and I know, no job will wait for you but it that is all they wanna hear for you to get your VISA, so be it, tell them what they wanna hear and move on with life.
Since his bro didn't come back after postgraduate studies..They are in doubt if he really intends to study and that makes them unsure of his length of proposed study..His finances are ok bro!
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by berexio1: 9:49pm On Aug 12, 2015
For those who have relatives in Canada, bear in mind that their status over there can affect ur application especially if the person came in through study route and has overstayed. For PR relatives, this might be looked at differently.

My advise is to leave out the person's details on ur family form. He is in canada already so I don't see you inviting him over.

Cheers!

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 9:55pm On Aug 12, 2015
standupguy:
...Personally I believe my indictment was because I have a brother in Canada...
I suspect so bro. It is unfair, but it is what they seem to have done. Perhaps you wouldn't have this issue if your admission were in a far away province? I dunno.

TheBae:
...because VO1 and VO2 didn't have a problem with purpose and length of stay doesn't mean VO3 wouldn't...
I think so too.

berexio1:
...I think most of the VOs that pick up a file will most likely treat it as a fresh application... These pple don't even have time to read SOP(that's my assumption)...
Agreed. I think that applications should be packaged with the assumption that the VO will be lazy, although this still doesn't guarantee anything but it reduces risk.

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