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Icecomrade:
Who told you Ojukwu started the war?
What do you know of the Aburi agreement between Gowon and Ojukwu?

Another illiterate on Nairaland
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adamshuaib:
Go read about the real truth, not the Igbo version. Igbos bleeped up, Ojukwu had the power to prevent the killing of his kinsmen

SonOfEl:
why? because ojukwu was the best man ever? o boy keep quiet and stop the empty boast. tell that to others but not to abians okay?

Icecomrade:
Awolowo was responsible for denying Igbo's monies in their account. He claimed that their outstanding balances will be investigated and subsequently returned to them. Which he never did. This was against Gowon's direct order that Igbo's should be given everything that belongs to them in the spirit R3

What did Gowon do as the head of state when the Igbo's cried back to him of the ill treatment of Awolowo?

Awolowo was thrown in jail by his own people collaborating with the North, Ojukwu facilitate his release after 3yrs. The guy with poisonous blood of betrayal flowing in his veins betrayed the trust vested in him.

This country is a thrash.

adamshuaib:
Go read about the real truth, not the Igbo version. Igbos bleeped up, Ojukwu had the power to prevent the killing of his kinsmen

bobbiekrantz:
Awolowo is nothing but a pained tribal 1diot who should have been left over to the vultures..

Icecomrade:

Like I said in one of my posts, I grew up thinking these old animals were hero's. That's what youthful innocence can cause.

They paint Ojukwu black and made us see him as been the architect of Igbo misfortune.

Too bad that Technology created better awareness. People can now research and find truths for themselves. The dark Ages is gone.

We know the truth, and this generation will preserve this agitation even for the coming generation.

truefact:
The Suffercated cowards are bigots, myopicals, and hypocrites....., incestuous, ritualistics, and jujustic ...betrayers, backstabbers, and gossipers,...chestbeater , talkatives, and propagandists,...Scratchfaceds, coneheads, and foulmouthers,....amalaeaters, ewadueaters and kolaeaters, ....wellwaterdrinkers, punyyjuicelickers, and bloodsucker....dirty, bad and evil,.... laziests, fearers and weaklings......ugliers, darkiers and winchs.....liars,beggars and slaves of Hausa-Fulani one Nigeria

Yorubas are simply winchy winchiers, envious haters, cheaters and parasites

zendy:
I know everything about the 1966 coup and it's aftermath. I'm more concerned about this erroneous impression a lot of people have that it was Ojukwu who started the war. Whoever attacks first is the person who starts a fight. Gowon attacked first. While it can be argued that Gowon had a moral obligation to keep Nigeria one, it doesn't take away the fact that Ojukwu also had an equally moral obligation to protect his people from genocide. Isn't it funny that in the months and weeks leading up to the declaration of Biafra, Ojukwu continually called upon Gowon to marshal troops and end the massacre of thousands easterners all over Nigeria but Gowon did nothing. But when Ojukwu then took matters into his hands, declared Biafra and asked all easterners to return home so he could guarantee their safety in Biafra, that's when Gowon now found soldiers to fight a war. If there was anyone who was responsible for the war, it was Gowon

bobbiekrantz:
The greatest thing we suffered then was sabotage..

AwlowOAF was released from prison by Ojukwu thinking that the old maggot would simply die off on his own....not knowing that Yolobars can never be trusted...

bunch of backstabbing clowns

delugajackson:
Is it only Abians that fought the war? How about down south,comprising of Cross River/Akwa Ibom? You have failed to acknowledge the fact that our own people were killed also. Its obvious I wasn't born then,but I know the history from what my grandma told me,thank God she's still alive today. Mind you,this is 2015,You don't need us to succeed.

zendy:
I know everything about the 1966 coup and it's aftermath. I'm more concerned about this erroneous impression a lot of people have that it was Ojukwu who started the war. Whoever attacks first is the person who starts a fight. Gowon attacked first. While it can be argued that Gowon had a moral obligation to keep Nigeria one, it doesn't take away the fact that Ojukwu also had an equally moral obligation to protect his people from genocide. Isn't it funny that in the months and weeks leading up to the declaration of Biafra, Ojukwu continually called upon Gowon to marshal troops and end the massacre of thousands easterners all over Nigeria but Gowon did nothing. But when Ojukwu then took matters into his hands, declared Biafra and asked all easterners to return home so he could guarantee their safety in Biafra, that's when Gowon now found soldiers to fight a war. If there was anyone who was responsible for the war, it was Gowon

Icecomrade:

I ve read 15 books on Biafra, not written by Igbo, if you got cash, I can give you references.

If don't have cash, go to Google and key in official minutes of meeting Aburi Accord. Am sure your opinion about Ojukwu will change.

Gowon is buried in shame, he can't even justify his actions beyond effort to keep Nigeria as on undivided entity.

Watch documentaries an see the relief on his face when the war ended.

People perish for lack of knowledge


You need to broaden your perceptions. Please quote me again, when you have researched properly

sigiyaya:
FORMER GOVERNOR OF AKWA IBOM STATE SENATOR GODSWILL AKPABIO SPEAKS ON BIAFRA AND GOWON WITH THEWILL NEWS
_________________________________________

THEWILL: You have been very vocal lately in dismissing and trashing the then federal military government’s post-civil war efforts at the 3 Rs: Reconstruction, Reconciliation and Rehabilitation. What don’t you agree with?


AKPABIO: As a young man, you definitely will not understand me. But I was a victim of the Civil War. I was one of those who suffered the pains of the war. I was born sometime in 1962; the civil war came really into our area in 1967. So, I was probably five or six years old during the war; and if I had been around nine years, I would probably have been conscripted.

I saw parents throw their children into pit toilets because they did not want their positions to be made known to the enemy. I saw devastation; I saw kwashiorkor; I saw hunger; I saw thousands of people and bodies littered everywhere and smelling while vultures had a field day every day. I saw houses destroyed; I saw families scattered such that till the end of the world, they can never gather themselves together again. There were children who were shipped away to Gabon, and they can never come back to Nigeria again because they were small. How would two-year-olds and three-year-olds ever know where they came from? They are now proud Gabonese and I don’t think Nigerians are even asking questions.

So, during the Silverbird Man of the Year Award, there were pictures that were shown of the Civil War. Somebody, sitting by me, who is from the West, was asking if those things were acted: the Kwashiorkor-ridden children with their swollen tummies, ugly shapes and bony structures because of hunger and starvation.

The then Head of State, General Yakubu Gowon attempted to explain that he tried everything to avoid the scenes that were being shown on the screen, that he did not want the war. The other person who could have answered him, unfortunately, that is Emeka Ojukwu, is dead. He said he tried everything to stop the war from breaking out but it’s only Ojukwu who could have answered whether he equally did his part in avoiding the war.

But something struck me: it was said that Gowon should be commended for initiating the three Rs: reconciliation, rehabilitation and reconstruction. And I asked a very simple question, that I came with a written text but I wasn’t going to read it. I thanked Silverbird for the award; and I said I did not want to criticise my leaders because I am also now a leader. But I asked to be allowed to ask a question: how come reconstruction started in the West when the war was actually fought in the East? They started the Third Mainland Bridge, the National Theatre, the international airport, and so on, in the West, while the war was fought in the eastern region. And if we really wanted to ensure total reconciliation, how come every account holder in the eastern region was given only £20? It did not matter whether your father had £10,000,000 or £50,000,000 before the war; you were given just £20. It was a take it or leave it situation. If your family survived and there was an account holder alive, he/she went to the bank, and collected just £20.

Could £20 pounds solve the Kwashiorkor that we were seeing? Could it reconstruct the houses that were burnt? Could it produce food? A lot of other things happened that I did not mention on that occasion. Don’t forget that it was shortly after the war in 1971 that the policy of indigenisation started, where most of the foreign industries and companies were sold to Nigerians, and the war-ravaged eastern regions, which include the entire South-South and the rest of them, could not buy, because no one who did not have money to even feed or clothe himself would have had money to buy any industry. So, I was just wondering, as a young man, if that was true reconciliation, because one would have thought that the government would have gone to any extent to give them more money so that they could truly rehabilitate themselves.

They needed money from reconstruction, and I would have thought that reconstruction would have also started from the East. I just asked because we were lucky to have the personal dramatis of the war right in still alive : General T. Y. Danjuma, General Yakubu Gowon, General Obasanjo, General Buhari and others. It is very rare to see these former heads of state in just one place, so I had to ask.

I said also that it is important, even for the current-day leaders, that we continue to take actions that will unite Nigeria. And we should purge ourselves of actions that tend to cause pains to Nigerians. For me, I believe that because of certain policies of the federal government after the war, the war did not cease in the eastern region until about 30 years after the war.

Icecomrade:

I ve read 15 books on Biafra, not written by Igbo, if you got cash, I can give you references.

If don't have cash, go to Google and key in official minutes of meeting Aburi Accord. Am sure your opinion about Ojukwu will change.

Gowon is buried in shame, he can't even justify his actions beyond effort to keep Nigeria as on undivided entity.

Watch documentaries an see the relief on his face when the war ended.

People perish for lack of knowledge


You need to broaden your perceptions. Please quote me again, when you have researched properly

AdamsBashforth:
I find your attempt in trying to educate adamshuaib extremely amusing. Why waste your precious time? Look, anytime I see people use unrefined words like 'bleep' in very sensitive issues, I immediatetly categorize them. Another method that helps me in saving my precious time while going through comments on Nairaland is the Monikers.

imhotep:
Another Igbo thread

sebali:
No argument Gowon went against d Aburi Accord bt Igbos can't play d victim cos dey started it all;[b] d tribal coup dey carried out, failure of Ironsi 2 persecute d perpetrators, Ironsi promoting Ibos 2 high ranking positionsin d military, and dat ediot dat sand d hit song "hausa awu mere".
[b]
If d coup was fair or Ironsi did his job without prejudice, Danjuma and odas wouldn't have 2 retaliate and in turn dere wud hav bin no need to go 2 Aburi 4 settlement

adamshuaib:
Chai!!!

They really suffered, Sha na Ojukwu cause am. He started a war he knew he couldn't win. The blood is also on him

sigiyaya:
FORMER GOVERNOR OF AKWA IBOM STATE SENATOR GODSWILL AKPABIO SPEAKS ON BIAFRA AND GOWON WITH THEWILL NEWS
_________________________________________

THEWILL: You have been very vocal lately in dismissing and trashing the then federal military government’s post-civil war efforts at the 3 Rs: Reconstruction, Reconciliation and Rehabilitation. What don’t you agree with?


AKPABIO: As a young man, you definitely will not understand me. But I was a victim of the Civil War. I was one of those who suffered the pains of the war. I was born sometime in 1962; the civil war came really into our area in 1967. So, I was probably five or six years old during the war; and if I had been around nine years, I would probably have been conscripted.

I saw parents throw their children into pit toilets because they did not want their positions to be made known to the enemy. I saw devastation; I saw kwashiorkor; I saw hunger; I saw thousands of people and bodies littered everywhere and smelling while vultures had a field day every day. I saw houses destroyed; I saw families scattered such that till the end of the world, they can never gather themselves together again. There were children who were shipped away to Gabon, and they can never come back to Nigeria again because they were small. How would two-year-olds and three-year-olds ever know where they came from? They are now proud Gabonese and I don’t think Nigerians are even asking questions.

So, during the Silverbird Man of the Year Award, there were pictures that were shown of the Civil War. Somebody, sitting by me, who is from the West, was asking if those things were acted: the Kwashiorkor-ridden children with their swollen tummies, ugly shapes and bony structures because of hunger and starvation.

The then Head of State, General Yakubu Gowon attempted to explain that he tried everything to avoid the scenes that were being shown on the screen, that he did not want the war. The other person who could have answered him, unfortunately, that is Emeka Ojukwu, is dead. He said he tried everything to stop the war from breaking out but it’s only Ojukwu who could have answered whether he equally did his part in avoiding the war.

But something struck me: it was said that Gowon should be commended for initiating the three Rs: reconciliation, rehabilitation and reconstruction. And I asked a very simple question, that I came with a written text but I wasn’t going to read it. I thanked Silverbird for the award; and I said I did not want to criticise my leaders because I am also now a leader. But I asked to be allowed to ask a question: how come reconstruction started in the West when the war was actually fought in the East? They started the Third Mainland Bridge, the National Theatre, the international airport, and so on, in the West, while the war was fought in the eastern region. And if we really wanted to ensure total reconciliation, how come every account holder in the eastern region was given only £20? It did not matter whether your father had £10,000,000 or £50,000,000 before the war; you were given just £20. It was a take it or leave it situation. If your family survived and there was an account holder alive, he/she went to the bank, and collected just £20.

Could £20 pounds solve the Kwashiorkor that we were seeing? Could it reconstruct the houses that were burnt? Could it produce food? A lot of other things happened that I did not mention on that occasion. Don’t forget that it was shortly after the war in 1971 that the policy of indigenisation started, where most of the foreign industries and companies were sold to Nigerians, and the war-ravaged eastern regions, which include the entire South-South and the rest of them, could not buy, because no one who did not have money to even feed or clothe himself would have had money to buy any industry. So, I was just wondering, as a young man, if that was true reconciliation, because one would have thought that the government would have gone to any extent to give them more money so that they could truly rehabilitate themselves.

They needed money from reconstruction, and I would have thought that reconstruction would have also started from the East. I just asked because we were lucky to have the personal dramatis of the war right in still alive : General T. Y. Danjuma, General Yakubu Gowon, General Obasanjo, General Buhari and others. It is very rare to see these former heads of state in just one place, so I had to ask.

I said also that it is important, even for the current-day leaders, that we continue to take actions that will unite Nigeria. And we should purge ourselves of actions that tend to cause pains to Nigerians. For me, I believe that because of certain policies of the federal government after the war, the war did not cease in the eastern region until about 30 years after the war.

emmyrichie:
And he knew all these things at 6?

emmyrichie:
And he knew all these things at 6?

disumusa:
pls we idigbo let's put head together and pray for freedom,so that sw , north can release us to achieve our Biafra.

adamshuaib:
Chai!!!

They really suffered, Sha na Ojukwu cause am. He started a war he knew he couldn't win. The blood is also on him

ekenedegreat:
meaning he is intelligent more than you.

Icecomrade:
Awolowo was responsible for denying Igbo's monies in their account. He claimed that their outstanding balances will be investigated and subsequently returned to them. Which he never did. This was against Gowon's direct order that Igbo's should be given everything that belongs to them in the spirit R3

What did Gowon do as the head of state when the Igbo's cried back to him of the ill treatment of Awolowo?

Awolowo was thrown in jail by his own people collaborating with the North, Ojukwu facilitate his release after 3yrs. The guy with poisonous blood of betrayal flowing in his veins betrayed the trust vested in him.

This country is a thrash.

delugajackson:
Trust me..if Ojukwu didn't succeed on Biafra.,No one EVER will. We've had our bad times.,We don't need another war.