Avalon316:


Nigerians are not the only people who do this. Are you trying to justify their bias towards Nigerians? What will you do if you get to Canada 2 weeks after your resumption date?

Generally speaking, Canada need us more than we need them. A country with just less than 40 million people need millions of people at a very quick rate. In few years time when most of their workers retire,there are few replacements for them. They barely have enough manpower for their military -a paltry 119,000 military personnel. They also have one of the most severe weather conditions in the world.

I know they are trying to be careful in just letting anyone into their country but then they cant get it all perfect. The U.S.A is the most powerful country because of the contributions of the immigrants who constitute more than 50% of their total population. Canada need to toe this line or they will be short of man power in the nearest future.

You can say that for yourself but you know it's not true

@thesoj...Waiting for the list of docs and the blue-print wey una use for ur sister's TRV application..
**Edited**
Oh forgive me, I just found ur 'ROBUST REPLY' on the app

hello guyz...i need your help,i am so much interested in studying in Canada and presently I am studying in Germany. Germany is very cool but the language barrier is to much and they are not very open kin of people.
So i need to move to Canada where I can get four years of study and postgraduate visa to work after study.
What I do not know now is that will it be necessary for me to come to naija to apply for the visa or take the visa from here.
Does anyone know any Nigerian that applied for visa from Germany or outside Nigeria and what was the outcome?
Hope to read from you soonest.
Regards

handyteddy:
..So CIC successfully ruined my birthday today with yesterdays denial ..

Birthday boy.... Many happy returns in life, cic are just doing there own ni, God will put smile on ur face very soon...

Any help !!! please urgent

SAHEETO:
Hello,

Please i need help on the email you address case inquiry too. I need to do that today.

Any body with information on how to do that should help.

Urgent!!!

justwise:

You can say that for yourself but you know it's not true

Sir,canada need us,we also need them. Who need each other more?

why they need us....

>more workers
>more young people energizing the economy
>a greater domestic market
>an absolutely larger number of outstanding, highly effective people( the US use this to their advantage)
>greater economies of scale (less cost in production per unit with increase of volume)
>attracting investors and multinational companies
>stimulating investment in knowledge
>generating more new ideas which improve productivity
>market size stimulates innovative activity
>increasing learning-by-doing due to pressures of increased production volume
>increased consumption driving manufacturing and services
>increased national savings
>a big home market that is an attractive prize for successful new products

Justwise,did you listen to what obama said on the immigrants in the USA. Do you know that he is offering them rights,benefits and protections? He is doing this because he knows their eventual importance in the economy of the country. With these immigrants,the US will have more workers, more young people energizing the economy and greater number of highly effective people.


Why we need canada......

Better education
More opportunities


what else oooo

@avalon316

Defnintely not just Nigerians do it. But u and I agree if there was going to be a statistics of the country with more defaulters Nigeria wouldn't be on the favourable side.

The better immigrants are even the ones that defer to a later date to eventually go to school. Some don't even go to school atall after getting into the country on a study visa.

Canada needs people YES! But they frown at insincerity and criminality.
If you want to go and study! Fine, apply for a study permit and make sure u go to school.
If you want to immigrate get into EE and immigrate.

Don't try to by pass the system by faking study intentions just to get into the country.

If the work permit is removed while you study, that way you have filtered anyone who fakes study intentions and intends to get into the country to make a living

hayqinsbFX:
@avalon316



Don't try to by pass the system by faking study intentions just to get into the country.

Lol. More than 90% of the people who want to go to Canada for studies do not have any plans of coming back,hayqinsbFX inclusive.

hayqinsbFX:
@avalon316

Defnintely not just Nigerians do it. But u and I agree if there was going to be a statistics of the country with more defaulters Nigeria wouldn't be on the favourable side.

The better immigrants are even the ones that defer to a later date to eventually go to school. Some don't even go to school atall after getting into the country on a study visa.

Canada needs people YES! But they frown at insincerity and criminality.
If you want to go and study! Fine, apply for a study permit and make sure u go to school.
If you want to immigrate get into EE and immigrate.

Don't try to by pass the system by faking study intentions just to get into the country.

Of course miscreants make life harder on everybody, and when policies are formulated it affects everyone.
i have genuinely sort to study in Canada because i wanted a breach between theory and hands on practical in world class scenario.
and also the 4-months co-op + 3yrs PGWP which would be a boost to relevant work experience.
Even Oga Justwise told me that i had no funds to finance my education the first time i was refused, now i have shown how prepared i am CIC probably wants me to take Msc against my will.

Avalon316:


Lol. More than 90% of the people who want to go to Canada for studies do not have any plans of coming back,hayqinsbFX inclusive.

This is true but like you these people are also needed to genuinely contribute to the development of country

Graviton2:


I won't say sorry because I know how annoying that word is. Nothing can stop us, we MUST get there. Which school are you headed sef, bro?

Thanks 4 d encouragment! Sheridan college, ontario

LOL... Thanks for your honesty... Nobody on this thread can tell me they intend coming back after their schooling..Maybe one or two... Some that boast and say they will, end up not coming back once they set foot in obodo Oyinbo.

As for defaulters, where do you put Indians and Mexicans? Naija na learner besides those people...
I understand your frustration @Hayqin, but believe me, every application is treated individually... Unfortunately, the VOs sometimes can't tell those who are genuine..
@Thesoj, congrats to your Sis!! sending you PM later in the day!

Avalon316:


Lol. More than 90% of the people who want to go to Canada for studies do not have any plans of coming back,hayqinsbFX inclusive.

I'm not talking about staying back here and that is not what canada is frowning at.
If it was they would remove PGwP or PR easily. They just want to make sure evey student coming in has genuine study intentions that's all.
If u. Read some GCmS they wud say they ain't convinced the Pa is a bonafide student with genuine study intentions.

Besides you can't talk about me that way, you're wrong.

When u say 90percent....its alarming and it shows the kind of people you surround yourself with.

Some of my friend that got their study permit didn't even know there's a work permit inclusive or they cud work talkless of dem knowing about PGwP or PR
They only applied to canada cos of the hype in the country and dey didn't want USA as dey go dere too often already.

Avalon316:


Lol. More than 90% of the people who want to go to Canada for studies do not have any plans of coming back,hayqinsbFX inclusive.

That's just it mehn...
I would get my WES and apply for some grad cert or PGD in universities plus some masters and see where I stand in admission

standupguy:


Of course miscreants make life harder on everybody, and when policies are formulated it affects everyone.
i have genuinely sort to study in Canada because i wanted a breach between theory and hands on practical in world class scenario.
and also the 4-months co-op + 3yrs PGWP which would be a boost to relevant work experience.
Even Oga Justwise told me that i had no funds to finance my education the first time i was refused, now i have shown how prepared i am CIC probably wants me to take Msc against my will.

:

hayqinsbFX:
@avalon316

Defnintely not just Nigerians do it. But u and I agree if there was going to be a statistics of the country with more defaulters Nigeria wouldn't be on the favourable side.

The better immigrants are even the ones that defer to a later date to eventually go to school. Some don't even go to school atall after getting into the country on a study visa.

Canada needs people YES! But they frown at insincerity and criminality.
If you want to go and study! Fine, apply for a study permit and make sure u go to school.
If you want to immigrate get into EE and immigrate.

Don't try to by pass the system by faking study intentions just to get into the country.

If the work permit is removed while you study, that way you have filtered anyone who fakes study intentions and intends to get into the country to make a living

Seconded...

Avalon316:


Lol. More than 90% of the people who want to go to Canada for studies do not have any plans of coming back,hayqinsbFX inclusive.

Disagree with that %, As far am concern, we still have peoples who have good jobs here and they want to have international academics to add to there career. A joó da bi ilè...Nigeria will be great soon

Onyeoma3:
[b] @thesoj

Congrats bro on your sister's TRV.

I wish to state at this point that you've earned my respect on this forum by totally ignoring a particular post from someone that blatantly insulted you. I was eager to see what your next post/reaction to his post would be. Indeed, you exhibited full maturity.
Many others would have fired back and in the end waste pages while exchanging words.
Much respect bro!!!

To all my brothers and sisters recently denied, please cheer up... It's not over yet until it's over.

@standupguy: Please don't give up yet... I know you've put in much efforts, time and resources but remember that there is light at the end of every tunnel... Since you've got years of experience, why not try uOttawa, you might get in.

@omooba2015 : my man, you don send PM tire for this thread... I give it you (no offense meant bro)

@hayqinsbFX : Why being so pessimistic? Have you confirmed that give been delayed? Being a realist is a good one, but at the extreme is not so cool. Try giving a shot at a course based masters... [/b]

No mind me jare ... Some strangers don enter d thread ni, if you look there profile u go know, den dey spy....

hayqinsbFX:
@avalon316

Defnintely not just Nigerians do it. But u and I agree if there was going to be a statistics of the country with more defaulters Nigeria wouldn't be on the favourable side.

The better immigrants are even the ones that defer to a later date to eventually go to school. Some don't even go to school atall after getting into the country on a study visa.

Canada needs people YES! But they frown at insincerity and criminality.
If you want to go and study! Fine, apply for a study permit and make sure u go to school.
If you want to immigrate get into EE and immigrate.

Don't try to by pass the system by faking study intentions just to get into the country.

If the work permit is removed while you study, that way you have filtered anyone who fakes study intentions and intends to get into the country to make a living

I just think this is post Canada refusal-syndrome. You were upbeat and optimistic up until yesterday and since then you've been posting all sorts and inadvertently placing blame on other Nigerians in diaspora who are all trying to make a better life for themselves why not channel all this energy towards re-applying, as for me Yes oo I am part of that 90% @avalon316 refers to and there is nothing wrong with it as the immigration laws make provisions for it and it is an open secret that the vast majority of applicants going to Canada wish to study and immigrate. A lot of people prefer Canada because though the tuition charged to international students is not cheap but some programs have co-op to get some valuable work experience and not to mention the PGWP as well as EE, after spending much on tuition fees i think people can choose to stay back or return home to Nigeria to work and it is entirely a personal decision which should be respected as the reasons behind it will vary for each individual.

coldasice007:

I just think this is post Canada refusal-syndrome. You were upbeat and optimistic up until yesterday and since then you've been posting all sorts and inadvertently placing blame on other Nigerians in diaspora who are all trying to make a better life for themselves why not channel all this energy towards re-applying as for me Yes oo, I am part of that 90% @avalon316 refers to and there is nothing wrong with it as the immigrations laws make provisions for it and it is an open secret that the vast majority of applicants going to Canada wish to study and immigrate. A lot of people prefer Canada because though the tuition charged to international students is not cheap but some programs have co-op to get some valuable work experience and not to mention the PGWP as well as EE, after spending much on tuition fees i think people can choose to stay back or return home to Nigeria to work and it is entirely a personal decision which should be respected as the reasons behind it will vary for each individual.

Nice one. This post nailed it.

There's nothing nailing about that and this is no where near a post canada refusal syndrome.
@coldasice007
It has not changed me a bit since yesterday

Just pouring my mind after looking at d vast majority of people perfect and sincere app who were denied..

And besides I don't know where I was against going to imigrate to canada through studies as you have said. All I'm sayng is if you are going on a study permit make sure you study.

Except you're planning to run away from studying after getting into canada I can't be against you and you're not among the Nigerians whose act have painted the country badly

sholay2011:

Nice one. This post nailed it.

my name sake is smart. Hahaa .
He is in one of the 5-EYE and sent his sister to another member country in order to EYE all the milk n honey in these countries.
May HE bless our efforts (amen)

TempusQ:
Congratulations!!! You've succeeded in landing your sister in one of the Five Eye Countries.

Akin, please let's all leave these arguments, it won't take us anywhere. If anyone wants to migrate tru travelling bag or dressing like a woman of study permit or EE, all roads lead to canny. Remain positive and optimistic. Try not to discourage others. The kind of SOA I see sometimes scare me. Cos if I got such, I won't bother about canny. Everyone wants greener pastures. In fact I want to increase the percentage to 95% of pple going to canny for school are using it to migrate joor. Your part time salary as a student pass masters degree full time worker in Nigeria. Abi I lie?

hayqinsbFX:
There's nothing nailing about that and this is no where near a post canada refusal syndrome.
@coldasice007
It has not changed me a bit since yesterday

Just pouring my mind after looking at d vast majority of people perfect and sincere app who were denied..

And besides I don't know where I was against going to imigrate to canada through studies as you have said. All I'm sayng is if you are going on a study permit make sure you study.

Except you're planning to run away from studying after getting into canada I can't be against you and you're not among the Nigerians whose act have painted the country badly

omooba2015:

Disagree with that %, As far am concern, we still have peoples who have good jobs here and they want to have international academics to add to there career. A joó da bi ilè...Nigeria will be great soon

Well, you won't get what you stated down here from WES. Why? Mine, there is no single analysis of cGPA, just that my Nija degrees are recognised in Canada, just the equivalence of levels I suppose. NOTHING SPECIAL brodaly. It's early morning, dont let me comment on WES. If you want a copy of mine evaluation, I'll scan it to.

Pls try to consider the last two years of your cGPA, that determine your admission. My last two years cGPA got me a thesis program NOT overall cGPA. All I said from experience.

hayqinsbFX:
Bro
I think I want to go into the same fight now.
A friend of Mine said if you have a low gpa as a Nigerian it's better if you do a wes evaluation of ur transcript and have it.
He said the wes evaluation could give you up to 3/4 on canadian scale.

I dnt knw how true but I will sure find out.

[quote author=kunlelikeme post=36942448] You'll need to be in Nigeria to apply since you're Nigerian. I believe that's a part of CIC rules. But you can check CIC faqs to be certain.

Okay brotherly
Was just talking based on what I was told.
Does that mean WES can't put u on a better standing than your cgpa in urNaija transcripts
I would like to see an assessment of yours.

BeulahHephziba:

Well, you won't get what you stated down here from WES. Why? Mine, there is no single analysis of cGPA, just that my Nija degrees are recognised in Canada, just the equivalence of levels I suppose. NOTHING SPECIAL brodaly. It's early morning, dont let me comment on WES. If you want a copy of mine evaluation, I'll scan it to.

Pls try to consider the last two years of your cGPA, that determine your admission. My last two years cGPA got me a thesis program NOT overall cGPA. All I said from experience.

That's because you did the basic evaluation and not a course by course evaluation. If you had done that, your cgpa would have been revaluated as well so it'll show what it is on a 4point scale

BeulahHephziba:

Well, you won't get what you stated down here from WES. Why? Mine, there is no single analysis of cGPA, just that my Nija degrees are recognised in Canada, just the equivalence of levels I suppose. NOTHING SPECIAL brodaly. It's early morning, dont let me comment on WES. If you want a copy of mine evaluation, I'll scan it to.

standupguy:


The actual fee is 5cad, I will ask him sha but the guy dey also form busy wey dey vex me.

Hi.
Pls I will be waiting for your reply. Thanks

TheBae:
That's because you did the basic evaluation and not a course by course evaluation. If you had done that, your cgpa would have been revaluated as well so it'll show what it is on a 4point scale

Hello TheBae,

I can see you know so much about this WES evaluation. I did an evaluation on their website few months ago by inputting my courses and grades after which I got a result of my CGPA converted to 4.00.

Could you please check the website and try inputting your grades to see if the outcome is the same as what you got after WES did your course by course evaluation? If it's the same then guyz in the house can try the website 1st b4 making any payment to WES.

See below a screenshot of what I got back then although my CGPA was 4.10/5.00 and 4.54 /5.00 in my last 2yrz (if WES considers the last 2yrz tho)

Thank you as u continue helping the house members.

I don't mind to have a look sir.

Do you mean a WES evaluation won't put you in good stead when you apply compared to university traanscripts.?

I onlly got that info from a friend thaat claimed to have used it.

BeulahHephziba:

Well, you won't get what you stated down here from WES. Why? Mine, there is no single analysis of cGPA, just that my Nija degrees are recognised in Canada, just the equivalence of levels I suppose. NOTHING SPECIAL brodaly. It's early morning, dont let me comment on WES. If you want a copy of mine evaluation, I'll scan it to.

Pls try to consider the last two years of your cGPA, that determine your admission. My last two years cGPA got me a thesis program NOT overall cGPA. All I said from experience.

please can someone with HND certificate get admitted for master program in Canada ?

@hayqinsbFX: The CIC guys are simply unserious.
You remember Team12 now, they gave Daughter / husband visa in addition to herself.
She did not hide anything. Do they want her to return ?? They need her badly in their economy hence the multiple favour.
On the other hand those they don't need because of over population of a given nationality the give mass denials. To them everything is their self benefit and they make those who they deny have a feeling of self guilt, self-pity or feel they are experiencing collateral damage occasioned by "bad" behavior of the country people. All na smokescreen .
Remember also that the work permit is not issued until after full registration in school . Of what use is paying so much which you can not even earn in 3 or 4 months only to defer the admission. Do they differ tuition payment also along side the admission deferment ? If no, then what is the use of paying school fees / school registration which is a pre-requisite to work permit.

ralfudoh:
Akin, please let's all leave these arguments, it won't take us anywhere. If anyone wants to migrate tru travelling bag or dressing like a woman of study permit or EE, all roads lead to canny. Remain positive and optimistic. Try not to discourage others. The kind of SOA I see sometimes scare me. Cos if I got such, I won't bother about canny. Everyone wants greener pastures. In fact I want to increase the percentage to 95% of pple going to canny for school are using it to migrate joor. Your part time salary as a student pass masters degree full time worker in Nigeria. Abi I lie?