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Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 5:51pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Phema:Now leading back to your question, wouldn't she be disobeying God? |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 5:52pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: Serious disobedience noni. There is no condition attached to a woman being submissive. No matter how we want to look at it. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by cococandy(f): 5:53pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Phema: Lol. People regardless of what they say can't practice true submission. Just like there are many things in the bible you can't do literally the way they are commanded. How's our little prince? 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by babygirlfl: 5:53pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
cococandy: This is just the pure truth. 2 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freshvine(f): 5:55pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: Madam Freecocoa, show me where I insulted phema in my post? I never told her she is stupidd. I address her questions objectively with an adjective phrase "stupid question" which literally means inane, not making sense, Inappropriate, undecidely, etc Didn't you read where I commended her for her brilliant expository write ups but guess you put a blind eye to it? Do not stir up hate please. It's unlady like 3 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 5:56pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
cococandy: But eeerrrmmm, that is what God expects from us nah. He's very well. You and yours? |
Re: Submission In Marriage by cococandy(f): 5:57pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: The same way my husband would be disobeying god if he doesn't honor me. If he does honor me, we wouldn't have reason to be at odds because I'll have a place of honor in my home and not the place of an inferior partner. Theres a reason why both parties have to keep their part of the commandments. People need to focus some more on what husbands are commanded to do. Wives have heard theirs over and over it has become so stale. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Submission In Marriage by cococandy(f): 5:58pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Phema:we are fine. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by limamintruth: 5:59pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: lol The Biblical submission doesnt mean being unequal. Remember the same Bible regards marriage as a legal union where two separate individuals(male&female) become one indivisible body. How then can there be inequality after the couple have become one body? As someone said earlier, each spouse has a special role to play that is neither greater/better nor less important than that of the other spouse. They are to work as a team, and not as rivals or competitors (just as the head cannot rival the hand, same way the neck cannot be competing with the stomach). Sorry for barging in anyways since the O.P clearly pointed out that this thread is for feminists only. Chidoks: I very much agree with you except the 'the man being the boss thingy'. Biblically, being the Head does not automatically translate to being 'the boss' as you put it. Remember Jesus Himself explained that the greatest among you should be the servant of all. Hence, being the Head is about being the servant of all, because as the head of your family, you are expected to make lots of sacrifices for your family(the same way Christ Jesus served the church and gave His life for her - the supreme sacrifice). Therefore, being the boss is totally out of the question. Mutual respect is what is required. Richiy: Sorry but this opinion of yours is more cultural than biblical. Once again, apologies to the O.P for barging into her feminazi thread. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 5:59pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Phema:And this just the plain truth. I think people should stop preaching submission in marriage, it's not even like the woman supposed to submit won't love her husband, just encourage them to love and respect each other and everyone will be fine. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by babygirlfl: 6:00pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
shaybebaby: It's always best to go by the standard definitions of things. I don't buy all these different meaning because it gives rise to a situation bad people can twist it to suit them as evident in our society today. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by cococandy(f): 6:01pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
I agree limamintruth: 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by mutter(f): 6:02pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
A wise woman and a good woman would submit to her husband in all things. If what the man wants is a sin agains God then she is bound to obey the will of God. I think we shouldn't really be asking that because the answer is obvious. Submitting to your husband does not come natural to many women you really have to work at it over and over again but with time if you really try you can achieve this. You even learn to be proud of yourself for having that quality because it really is the foundation of a good home and family. As the bible says .. all is vanity but true love is not boastful or proud. It is so much easier and humorous when a woman submits to her husband than when she is in constant power struggle with the man. Some people argue that men could abuse submissiveness. But men also abuse women who are not submissive. The most important thing is at the end of the day you know you gave your best, you did it right in the eyes of God and of man. The man is the head of the home and the woman cannot be equal to the man. Even if you are superior to him by virtue of education or any other reason. It is your duty to relinquish that superiority and place yourself under him. That is true love and that is one of the most relevant qualities of a good wife. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freshvine(f): 6:05pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Phema: It was a reverse psychology question. Don't get the context of my expository wrong with emotional impression. Don't give in to discordant templates trying to stir unhealthy rivalry because of their inordinate social believes. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 6:07pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: This is why I advise single ladies to look before they leap. First of all, get it right by marrying the right man. This issue of submission will not even come up if you marry a good man. You will just naturally want to please him because you know he loves you and will go to a great length to make you happy. When a man makes his home his sanctuary and his family, his priority, submitting to him will be easier. Both of you will want to make each other happy and things will just naturally flow. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 6:13pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
cococandy:The point remains, what if he fails in his part? Does that mean you should fail too? 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 6:18pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Phema:You are right, although the way I see it, there won't be room for submitting in my marriage, the point being that, I believe a man who loves you, will not want you to give into his wish without considering if it okay with you or not, which is what submission is all about. I still strongly believe, the right word is compromise. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 6:18pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freshvine: All this your English dey make me woozy ooo. Ah ah, soffery abeg. The 'stupiid' thingy just didn't come across as polite. It's all good. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by GHoJes: 6:19pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Phema:From the christain view which you are looking at submission, it related it to a man being a true practising christain. If the act that brought the non submission is not christlike including treating the woman unjustly (certainly not christlike), then non submission is not totally out of place. Though not spelt out to the letter, it is same as children obey your parents in the lord otherwise people will force their children to obey them in all things because the bible said so. To confirm that it is meant for men that are truely christlike, it went further to tell the man to love like christ. The question therefore is, has the man screaming submission from his woman loved or is willing to love like christ? Does he even know what it means to love like christ? Does he know christ to start with? Some of the people screaming the "christain" submission as you put it, only go to church on new year's eve, only know that portion of the bible because their fellows said it is in the good book, are certified or uncertified atheist. Do you know that there's a reward/motivation for submission? Firstly, submission is not forced, it is of freewill as in man to God. Secondly total submission can only be to God regardless of the situation because only him is perfect. Inspite of this, there is non righteous that totally submit at all times to a perfect God let alone to an imperfect man, one can only strive to be perfect. As i hinted before, even God rewards those who submit to him by lifting them up as he said in Peters or motivates you to submit by lifting you up to acknowledge that it is grace that made it and thus humble yourself, where you ungreatfully does not recognises his grace, he can decide to bring you down. In same vein, the man is told to love his wife like christ love the church as the woman's return for submitting. It is only an ungreatful woman that will not submit to a loving man. In my Pov, it is actually difficult to love like christ than to submit. If many men give themselves to understanding aside doing the christ type of love, they will be too overwhelmed to scream submission because then they will see the bigger log is in their eyes. Treating your fellow human unjustly is a sin before God. Basically if the act is not just or is a sin before God then the woman can decide not to submit. 4 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Submission In Marriage by cococandy(f): 6:22pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: Invariably. I can't relate well with someone who disrespects me much less submit to him. God knows that is how he made me. He even saw it before I got married. The very nature he created me to have won't allow me to lie down and take humiliation without question. He will understand |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 6:24pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
babygirlfl:Exactly. 2 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 6:29pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
limamintruth:The bible is known to speak from both sides of the mouth, so.... No offence to anyone. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 6:30pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
@GHoJes Nice perspective. The question remains; is a woman's unsubmissiveness pardonable by God if her husband does not love her as God commanded, biblically? Must there be an incentive before a woman wholeheartedly submits to her husband? Remember we are looking at this from God's standards. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 6:31pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: Get out of my head! |
Re: Submission In Marriage by limamintruth: 6:34pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: None taken. The Christians here will understand better what I'm talking about. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by Nobody: 6:35pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
mutter: Now, this is a true christian woman 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 6:36pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
cococandy:Lol, hell fire go be your case o, coco repent. 1 Like |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 6:38pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
Phema:Lol. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by babygirlfl: 6:38pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: With all respect to all my bible believing friends and with no offence intended from me too, I totally agree with this. 2 Likes |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 6:40pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
limamintruth:Okay. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by BABE3: 6:43pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
freecocoa: Hallelujah cocoa. People are beginning to see the bible for what it is. It's a new dawn. |
Re: Submission In Marriage by freecocoa(f): 6:48pm On Aug 16, 2015 |
BABE3:Praise my sister. It really is. |
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