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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by SUBWAY101(m): 9:54pm On Aug 20, 2015
cheruv:

Thanks alot for this.
The other day I was arguing with that hideous hypocrite called laudate on ijebus and aworis not being Yoruba and he was talking otherwise, just bkos he's Yoruba. angry

https://www.nairaland.com/1975320/ancient-igbo-rule-over-parts
Keep it up bro

Please dont ever post this nonsense about us again in your life. Who are you to say we are not Yoruba, this is the reason I hate you igbo guys here when you try to rewrite people's history. We are Yoruba and will always be, mind you business and stop all this nonsense.

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Abagworo(m): 9:55pm On Aug 20, 2015
DeeMain:


Read the above. Akalaka a Benin man gave birth to Iwhnurọhna = both the name of the father and his son are Igbo names and yet he's from Benin.

See also:

Iwhnurọhna

Ihruọha

Impressed at the ingenuity at bastardizing and creatively mispelling Igbo names. See gymnastics. Quite astounding.

Also,

"Iwhnurọhna, in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community (town, city or village)."

Iwhnurọhna = Ihruọha = Iruoha =
Iroha = face of the community (town, city or village or public or public face in Igbo.

Wow.

So tomorrow someone can say my name is not debola, it's dhebolar and insist on its accuracy.

Anyway, no comment.

Failure is an orphan. Success has many fathers. Focus on yourself. Build your house well. If u do, others will identify with you. They will even beg you for citizenship. US is a case in point.

O gwu m, n'onu.

Ihuruoha is simply "face of the people" or Ihuoha or ifuora in central Igbo. The "Hn" or "whn" was conceived in autography to address the nasal and accented pronounciation.

The origin and uniqueness of Ikwerre would not have been a long discussed controversy if common sense was allowed to come into play. Migrations came from everywhere with Etche and Owerri being very significant but the most solidly placed and easily proven root is Cross River Igbo area rather than Western Igbo or Bini.

I write this because I feel more connected to Ogba and Ukwuani and I notice a lot of similarities aming us but never Ikwerre.

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Chigold101(m): 9:55pm On Aug 20, 2015
firstEVA:
Ikweres speak like Igbos, that's where the misconception came from.
There is no misconception ma'am. There are no two igbo towns or villages without a distinct dialect.

The whole of Issue of Ikwerre migrating from Edo or Bini is a concept created after civil war by the then Nigerian government, for convenience sake. Remember that the leader of River state at that time in PH was Ken Saro Wiwa who did all he could to shut change Ndi Igbo to favour Nigeria, Nigeria paid him back in full by Hanging him in 1996

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by cheruv: 10:01pm On Aug 20, 2015
SUBWAY101:


Please dont ever post this nonsense about us again in your life. Who are you to say we are not Yoruba, this is the reason I hate you igbo guys here when you try to rewrite people's history. We are Yoruba and will always be, mind you business and stop all this nonsense.
Who told you you're Yoruba

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Chigold101(m): 10:01pm On Aug 20, 2015
EdCure:
The ibos entered as settlers in droves, grabbed their land and forced their language on them. Same tactic they're trying to replicate in all SS states through the Biafra project.

The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka

the name Akalaka is actually Igbo name. So if the Igbos as you claim entered as settlers in droves, grabbed their land and force their language on them, how come the name of their ancestor is an Igbo name? Did the Igbos also force their ancestor to change his name?

It is a pity how Nigeria has turned a people with brothers and parents into orphans

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by IGBOPRINCE: 10:03pm On Aug 20, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
those names also have connection with Benin, akalaka, ekpeye and ogba etc are also bini names,
can u tell us the meaning of akalaka in edo language ?

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Chigold101(m): 10:08pm On Aug 20, 2015
Abagworo:


Ihuruoha is simply "face of the people" or Ihuoha or ifuora in central Igbo. The "Hn" or "whn" was conceived in autography to address the nasal and accented pronounciation.

The origin and uniqueness of Ikwerre would not have been a long discussed controversy if common sense was allowed to come into play. Migrations came from everywhere with Etche and Owerri being very significant but the most solidly placed and easily proven root is Cross River Igbo area rather than Western Igbo or Bini.

I write this because I feel more connected to Ogba and Ukwuani and I notice a lot of similarities aming us but never Ikwerre.
please are you Ikwere?
Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by attacker231: 10:09pm On Aug 20, 2015
SUBWAY101:


Please dont ever post this nonsense about us again in your life. Who are you to say we are not Yoruba, this is the reason I hate you igbo guys here when you try to rewrite people's history. We are Yoruba and will always be, mind you business and stop all this nonsense.

LMAO. You see why i spit on these wanderers. Ahahahah

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Chigold101(m): 10:11pm On Aug 20, 2015
Abagworo:


Ihuruoha is simply "face of the people" or Ihuoha or ifuora in central Igbo. The "Hn" or "whn" was conceived in autography to address the nasal and accented pronounciation.

The origin and uniqueness of Ikwerre would not have been a long discussed controversy if common sense was allowed to come into play. Migrations came from everywhere with Etche and Owerri being very significant but the most solidly placed and easily proven root is Cross River Igbo area rather than Western Igbo or Bini.

I write this because I feel more connected to Ogba and Ukwuani and I notice a lot of similarities aming us but never Ikwerre.

Jesusloveyou:
those names also have connection with Benin, akalaka, ekpeye and ogba etc are also bini names,
so what does the names mean in Bini?

akalaka (Igbo0 means destiny (english)

tell me their bini meanings

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Nobody: 10:11pm On Aug 20, 2015
mcvaeey:
you'll only see biafra in your dreams flattie. You'll die in great numbers this time around. Ikwerres are Edos and nor igbos.
yo-robbers are liars and cheats since time immemorial. Are you an Ikwerre boy? What business do you have with the Ikwerres that would make you to feel like dying? Who made you their mouthpiece?
As for the war you mentioned... The war will start in your village and your blood will be used to feed the vampires in your home.

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by SUBWAY101(m): 10:12pm On Aug 20, 2015
cheruv:

Who told you you're Yoruba

I dont want to insult you, stop all this nonsense post about Awori. We are Yoruba, you guys should face your tribe and stop looking for trouble everywhere.

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by DeeMain(m): 10:15pm On Aug 20, 2015
Abagworo:


Ihuruoha is simply "face of the people" or Ihuoha or ifuora in central Igbo. The "Hn" or "whn" was conceived in autography to address the nasal and accented pronounciation.

The origin and uniqueness of Ikwerre would not have been a long discussed controversy if common sense was allowed to come into play. Migrations came from everywhere with Etche and Owerri being very significant but the most solidly placed and easily proven root is Cross River Igbo area rather than Western Igbo or Bini.

I write this because I feel more connected to Ogba and Ukwuani and I notice a lot of similarities aming us but never Ikwerre.

Ok, good point about the authography. But the rate at which Ikwerre changed Igbo names after the war lends credence to my fears.

There is nothing like uniqueness. Abiriba , Onicha, some Aro and many others in Igbo land are believed to have migrated from somewhere into Igboland. That does not make them less Igbo than anyone else.

Where are u from?

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by IGBOPRINCE: 10:21pm On Aug 20, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
because u have boundary with them, i understand u biafrand are looking for minority group to claim to increase ur small size
be sincere with yourself, yu know ndigbos re not smal but large.
Ok let's do d mathematics.in the whole state of nigeria,we all know that apart frm indigene,igbos is the 2nd in population.e.g in kano,kaduna,ph,delta,uyo,calabar and lagos.
Hope am right?
I love my pple

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by onenaira3: 10:26pm On Aug 20, 2015
FKO81:

Aworis, Ijebus are not Yoruba

Bros I love you for this no homo. This is what igbo should start doing whenever yoloba monkies come looking for trouble. They started the thread, you gave them back exactly what they tried to start and Now they are whining like a bitach on her period.

Ijebu and Egun are not yoloba. Ijebu are Sudanese while Egun are Edo.

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Nobody: 10:29pm On Aug 20, 2015
FKO81:

Coward go claim Ilorin leave Aniomas and Ikwerres alone
History of Ilorin
lorin was founded by the Yoruba cheesy, one of the three largest ethnic groups in Nigeria, in 1450. It became a provincial military headquarters of the ancient Oyo Empire, it later become a Northern Nigeria protectorate when the Shehu Alimi, a descendant of Shehu Usman Dan-Fodio, took control of the city through the spread of Islamic religion. The capital was occupied by the Royal Niger Company in 1897 and its lands incorporated into the British colony of Northern Nigeria in 1900, although the emirate continued to perform ceremonial functions.[2] Although the city retains a strong Islamic influence from the northern incursions grin, Christianity is now widely practiced by significant portions of other Nigerians originating from other states. Ilorin is the largest city and the official capital of Kwara State.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilorino
Thanks Bro!! I have been telling them ( yo-robbers) about kwara on this forum. Kwara is under their Hausa/Fulani masters and they are not doing anything about it. All they know how to do is to denounce their yo-robber heritage and claim SS

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Nobody: 10:30pm On Aug 20, 2015
SUBWAY101:


Please dont ever post this nonsense about us again in your life. Who are you to say we are not Yoruba, this is the reason I hate you igbo guys here when you try to rewrite people's history. We are Yoruba and will always be, mind you business and stop all this nonsense.

Do well to choke your eternal hate down the throats of your treacherous Yoruba tribe...

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by IGBOPRINCE: 10:33pm On Aug 20, 2015
FKO81:

Ijebus are Sudanese tongue

Even the Ijebus differ from the Yoruba in many respects. For example, while the main Yoruba group practice circumcision on both male and female members of the family, the Ijebus never practice it on the female members; the Yorubas used to bore the lower part of the ear in both male and female while the male never bore in Ijebu.
guy I love your comment, it remind me of pezienza, yu guys work with proves.

Keep it up.

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by IGBOPRINCE: 10:37pm On Aug 20, 2015
after1:
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I have warned you bastard to stop screaming Yoruba everywhere. Face your cursed red mud land, the thread is not about Yoruba. Your own disgrace is loading and we piling it up for you. Be warned.
shut d Bleep off niga..stop acting like a bman..

Your pple should be the one to be warned cos they disguised in different monikas to claimed ikwerres and the aniomas. Just like one useless yoruba idiat was bursted by onenaira3 dis week.

So fuckooff.

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Jesusloveyou: 10:37pm On Aug 20, 2015
IGBOPRINCE:
be sincere with yourself, yu know ndigbos re not smal but large.
Ok let's do d mathematics.in the whole state of nigeria,we all know that apart frm indigene,igbos is the 2nd in population.e.g in kano,kaduna,ph,delta,uyo,calabar and lagos.
Hope am right?
I love my pple
ok tell me, is it d people u biafran wants to claim or their land, if not, why disturbing una self, for what u cannot actuallise
Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Abagworo(m): 10:38pm On Aug 20, 2015
DeeMain:


Ok, good point about the authography. But the rate at which Ikwerre changed Igbo names after the war lends credence to my fears.

There is nothing like uniqueness. Abiriba , Onicha, some Aro and many others in Igbo land are believed to have migrated from somewhere into Igboland. That does not make them less Igbo than anyone else.

Where are u from?

Ikwerre changed the names back to Ikwerre. You can't come to another man's land and change his name to whatever suits you. Ikwerre disagrees being Igbo and the dialectal variation lends some credence to the claims. We need to actually let them be. The reason I have been contributing to this thread is not to claim Ikwerre is Igbo but to correct a flawed rewrite of history.

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by OkutaNla: 10:44pm On Aug 20, 2015
onenaira3:


Bros I love you for this no homo. This is what igbo should start doing whenever yoloba monkies come looking for trouble. They started the thread, you gave them back exactly what they tried to start and Now they are whining like a bitach on her period.

Ijebu and Egun are not yoloba. Ijebu are Sudanese while Egun are Edo.

Fine. But no be only Una sabi mischief coz Onitsha people sef are confirm Yoruba/Bini ppl. cheesy



Yoruba Onitsha, Orisha

Introduction: By PHILIP EMEAGWALI

I am a Yoruba by birth (born in Akure, western region) and Igbo by
heritage. As a native Onitsha Igbo, I trace my ancestry to Eze Chima,
a prince who rebelled against the Benin royal dynasty and emigrated
from the kingdom. Other Igbos that trace their lineage to Eze Chima
include Onicha-Ukwu, Onicha-Olona, Onicha-Ugbo, Obior,
Issele-Ukwu, Issele-Mkpima, Issele-Azagba, Ezi, Abeh and Obamkpa.

Native Onitshans speak a dialect of the Igbo language with several
Benin/Yoruba words such as "Obi" (of Onitsha) and "Oba" (of Benin).
In fact, the word Onitsha (Onicha) is a corruption of the god "Orisha."
The bini name for River Niger is Ohinmwin. The Onicha Igbo call it
"Orinmili." In a few years, we will have DNA tests that proves (or
disproves) the Onitsha-Benin-Yoruba connection.

In fact, a lost dialect of the Yoruba language, called Olukwumu, is
spoken in Brazil and in a few Igbo communities named Anioma,
Idumu-Ogu, Ubulubu, Ugboba, Ugbodu, and Ukwunzu
(M. A. Onwuejeogwu, 1987 Ahiajoku Lecture

The absence Olukwumu in core Yoruba land proves that these
communities are the Lost Yoruba Tribe that were fleeing from
slave raiders. (Excerpt)

http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/traditional/6833-yoruba-onitsha-orisha.html


Follow this link to read up on what Emeagwuali has to say . . . . .

http://emeagwali.com/photos/yoruba/photo-essay-on-yoruba.html


Cc: laudate, after1, FKO81, IGBOPRINCE, ekenedegreat, Jesusloveyou, SUBWAY101, attacker231, coolitempa, T8ksy cheesy cheesy grin grin

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Nobody: 10:49pm On Aug 20, 2015
coolitempa:


Very accurate depiction of the truth.. smiley....this is what they are trying o do with the Ikas...Aniomas....Ikwerres....Etches....lagos....etc.....rather than develop their land....they will be trying to grab that of the others.....thankfully everyone is waking up that their support for Jonathan was always a ploy to grab the land of the minorities around them...it will not work unless with the four land locked states of the SE.... angry
Can you just listen to yourself? Who and who are waking up? instead of you to say that, many of them are now agitating for Biafra even Asari is now one of us.
Keep dreaming and don't wakeup foooool!!

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Jesusloveyou: 11:05pm On Aug 20, 2015
Chigold101:


so what does the names mean in Bini?

akalaka (Igbo0 means destiny (english)

tell me their bini meanings
those names senior my great grandfathers, except people from d palace may know those names, but we still have those names, name after streets which i don't Know their meaning, like alaka street behind oba palace, ogba road, etc, with d coming of d colonial administration who change those names to suit d present day ibos, again like eweka that is change to iweka in onitsha, as i said, all d names mentioned by d op are all familiar with bini

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by modhream: 11:15pm On Aug 20, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
those names senior my great grandfathers, except people from d palace may know those names, but we still have those names, name after streets which i don't Know their meaning, like alaka street behind oba palace, ogba road, etc, with d coming of d colonial administration who change those names to suit d present day ibos, again like eweka that is change to iweka in onitsha, as i said, all d names mentioned by d op are all familiar with bini
How old are you,please?.You sure are reasoning like a ten-year old.
Sorry,that's an insult on all ten-year olds out there,they are more intelligent.Commonsense didn't tell you that Alaka and Akalaka are two different names or that the Iweka road is actually Eze Iweka rd,that had nothing to do with Oba Eweka n is a right proper Igbo name in itself.
The Colonialists must have so loved the Igbos then,they even name a suburb of Ikeja after the Igbo Ogba too.Or was it named after the "Benin" one,you think?

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by Nobody: 11:17pm On Aug 20, 2015
wow. so ijebus are not Yoruba. even aworis....


Am learning

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by IGBOPRINCE: 11:21pm On Aug 20, 2015
SUBWAY101:


Please dont ever post this nonsense about us again in your life. Who are you to say we are not Yoruba, this is the reason I hate you igbo guys here when you try to rewrite people's history. We are Yoruba and will always be, mind you business and stop all this nonsense.
why re yu so stvpid, this is the reasons I hate you yorubas. Re yu blind that yu couldn't see th link there..

Yur oba said they re frm waddai in sudan..
Take it or leave it..

So yu see how painful it s when some of you tried to said we re not igbos ,we re not yorubas.
Fools.

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by HopeAtHand: 11:26pm On Aug 20, 2015
I deliberately decided to observe..atleast cheruv and his igbo gang can view firsthand, sentiments as explained by Ogbakor Ikwerre and other Ikwerre groups..

Ezepromoe is either too deceptive or naive..
Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by IGBOPRINCE: 11:36pm On Aug 20, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
ok tell me, is it d people u biafran wants to claim or their land, if not, why disturbing una self, for what u cannot actuallise
why will biafra want to claimed land and ppe in biafran land..?
Actualization of biafra is just like obama being the first african american president when the whole white thought black man will never ever be a president in the white house.

So if God willing,no man unwilling.cheesy

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by tonychristopher: 11:37pm On Aug 20, 2015
patmaine:


wow. so ijebus are not Yoruba. even aworis....



Am learning

egun in badagry are not Yoruba's the kabba and okun in Ilorin are not Yoruba even the akoko also in Edo so forget them

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by tonychristopher: 11:40pm On Aug 20, 2015
Abagworo:


Ikwerre changed the names back to Ikwerre. You can't come to another man's land and change his name to whatever suits you. Ikwerre disagrees being Igbo and the dialectal variation lends some credence to the claims. We need to actually let them be. The reason I have been contributing to this thread is not to claim Ikwerre is Igbo but to correct a flawed rewrite of history.

why argue ..the name ikwerre is igbo but the name eko isn't Yoruba

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by tonychristopher: 11:42pm On Aug 20, 2015
SUBWAY101:


Please dont ever post this nonsense about us again in your life. Who are you to say we are not Yoruba, this is the reason I hate you igbo guys here when you try to rewrite people's history. We are Yoruba and will always be, mind you business and stop all this nonsense.

the more reason I hate Yoruba is they have the tendency to divide ..who are you to say ikwerre ain't igbo ...awori kabba offa and okun with egun are not Yoruba ...I know their history

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Re: Concrete Facts To Prove That Ikwerres Are Not Igbo But Edo by biafranking: 11:43pm On Aug 20, 2015
HopeAtHand:
I deliberately decided to observe..atleast cheruv and his igbo gang can view firsthand, sentiments as explained by Ogbakor Ikwerre and other Ikwerre groups..

Ezepromoe is either too deceptive or naive..
ezepromoe is neither deceptive cos yu re the one being deceptive right frm the d day your dad suffered so much on biafra war and decided to denied his igbo identity till date..
Now the son has inherited the annoying diseases.
Too bad son..

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