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SUBWAY101:
Cyberwolf, you are back again after receiving serious trashing from them after1. The coward is here again to cry. Bastard

. You mean after1 and attacker321 ur other moniker? You can as well bring them online. Lemme hammer ur conehead as usual. Ezi ohia

after1:
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Buahahaha. See this lowlife nitwit defending the man that sleep with his mon daily, he is your mom regular customer and reason you are trying to defend him. Ahahahaha. Tony that cant even father a kid, he has low sperm count, he is just using your mom to pass time.

*dies* cyberwolf don suffer oooo. Lmaooooooooooo

ARIZONA123:
. You mean after1 and attacker321 ur other moniker? You can as well bring them online. Lemme hammer ur conehead as usual. Ezi ohia

Ahahah your best tactics is to call anyone hammering you different monikers or names. You are very dull. See as dey mess your parents here. Chisos christ.

ARIZONA123:
. You mean after1 and attacker321 ur other moniker? You can as well bring them online. Lemme hammer ur conehead as usual. Ezi ohia

This son of a village wh/ore is now confused. I love when you are frustrated, you start calling everyone different names/handles.

SUBWAY101:
Ahahah your best tactics is to call anyone hammering you different monikers or names. You are very dull. See as dey mess your parents here. Chisos christ.

BUhaahahahahahahahaha

Jesusloveyou:
we are talking about 300yrs ago,many bini names has gone into extinction, for example, if bini came from oduduwa lineage, as of today nobody bears oduduwa in Benin kingdom, d same way onitsha is also trace to Benin kingdom, Benin kingdom actually extended from owo in ondo to agbor to onitsha,

.It baffles me when Igbos here tries to deny the Benin linkage of Onitcha. Looks closely at he pics below, first is Obi of Onitcha, second Oba of Lagos, 3rd Beni chiefs. You could see they are all with the Benin staff of office.

attacker231:
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When I told you to stop sleeping with your mother, you think I hate you. See the result of that act, the curse is following you everywhere and you cant even think well again. Cyberwolf, the only solution is for you to go kill yourself. Animal

. You mean ur slutty mother whom I slept with last night? Plsss tell her to bring me my change and as well come pick up her smellin panties she forgot in my room last night. Lmaooo. Tell her to also wash her pussy when coming tonight cos I almost puked last because of the odours coming out of her maggot infested puzzy. Lmaoo

naijaking1:
Has any Rikwerre agitator answered why their fathers and grandfathers chosed to identify themselves as Igbos during the colonial era when Port Harcourt was under Owerri division? Note that Ijaws, Ogonis, and Ibibios easily identified themselves as such during the period in question. This was beofre the discovery of oil.

The Igbo forced them to identify as Igbos, as well as forced Igbo language on them at gun point, while smaller groups like Degema, Ogoni and Andoni were too strong for Ndiigbo to overpower, and so retained their languages and identities. *grins

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ARIZONA123:
. You mean ur slutty mother whom I slept with last night? Plsss tell her to bring me my change and as well come pick up her smellin panties she forgot in my room last night. Lmaooo. Tell her to also wash her pussy when coming tonight cos I almost puked last because of the odours coming out of her maggot infested puzzy. Lmaoo

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Weak jab from a man whose senile father was stoned to death for being daft, a man whose only achievement in life was raping his own mother. You have been pissed on, beaten, wiped, slapped, pummeled, disgraced and battered here by everyone yet you wont stop coming for more slap. Everyone love pissing on you cos you are the weakest among the Igbos, no tactics nor skills. Ahahahahaha.

attacker231:
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Weak jab from a man whose senile father was stoned to death for being daft, a man whose only achievement in life was raping his own mother. You have been pissed on, beaten, wiped, slapped, pummeled, disgraced and battered here by everyone yet you wont stop coming for more slap. Everyone love pissing on you cos you are the weakest among the Igbos, no tactics nor skills. Ahahahahaha.

BUhahahahahaa. Laugh wan kill me die

attacker231:
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Weak jab from a man whose senile father was stoned to death for being daft, a man whose only achievement in life was raping his own mother. You have been pissed on, beaten, wiped, slapped, pummeled, disgraced and battered here by everyone yet you wont stop coming for more slap. Everyone love pissing on you cos you are the weakest among the Igbos, no tactics nor skills. Ahahahahaha.

Muchechechecheche. Have mercy abeg, cyberwolf yaff suffer. Lmaoo

Well,from all what I've gathered here,there's no doubt whatsoever that Ikwerres are Igbos.
It's only but an ignorant fellow that will bear Igbo names(even his/her great grand parents had Igbo names too),speak Igbo language,have Igbo kings,have Igbo culture and still allow some other persons to rewrite his/her history. That is the most subtle and easiest way for the person's genealogy and identity to be lost.
As for the Ijebus,the Aworis; especially the Ijebus,I feel they still have a lot of researches to do concerning their ancestry. Personally,I feel they are not Yorubas; or atleast not from the stock of the 'conc' Yorubas. Infact,majority of them greatly differ from the 'conc' Yorubas in terms of physical attributes,character,social disposition etc.
Weldone Pazienza. I like how you comment with facts,experience and maturity.

pazienza:
The Igbo forced them to identify as Igbos, as well as forced Igbo language on them at gun point, while smaller groups like Degema, Ogoni and Andoni were too strong for Ndiigbo to overpower, and so retained their languages and identity. *grins

Igbos forced the language on them
In effect they were forced to do everything that identifies a group as being part of another, namely:
Locate themselves proximal to Igbos
Practice Igbo traditon and culture
Speak, write, and breath Igbo language
Answer Igbo names
Call their their towns Igbo names

If Igbos were forcing smaller ethnic groups to assimilate, groups like the Ibibios, Efiks, and even the tiny Ogoni population would have been the ones complaining about the force, not people who openly and willingly identified themselves as Igbos when power flowed from the coal mines of Enugu

Where is my dog? Arizona123 AKA cyberwolf. You have done the ojuku way again today, men are waiting to smash your skull and piss on you as usual.

attacker231:
Where is my dog? Arizona123 AKA cyberwolf. You have done the ojuku way again today, men are waiting to smash your skull and piss on you as usual.

The guy don run already. He will come back when guys are offline. Lmaooooo.

Kids

FKO81:
Kids

Obinna Frank, your own is loading.......

after1:
Obinna Frank, your own is loading.......

That's my name Ojukwu included

FKO81:
That's my name Ojukwu included

I can still give you my phone number

FKO81:
That's my name Ojukwu included

Good, will invite you to a nice party today.

[b]THE IJEBU PEOPLE ARE SUDANESE
THE Ijebu People inhabit the South-Central part of Yorubaland - a territory that is bounded in the North by Ibadan, in the East by Ondo, Okitipupa and the West by Egbaland. The Southern fringe is open to the sea with the coastlines of Epe, Ejinrin and Ikorodu. Despite the political division which has these three towns in Lagos while the main part of Ijebuland is Ogun State, the people have always regarded themselves as one entity even when the immigration ­legends which have often been cited point in dif­ferent directions.

There are immigration legends which tend to link the Ijebu with the biblical Jebusites and Noah (hence Omoluwabi -- omo ti Noah bi -- the children of Noah) but these are farfetched. Other immigration legends trace the origin of Yoruba people, and by implication, the Ijebu to Mecca where Oduduwa, the legendary ancestor of the Yoruba, was said to be the son of King Lamurudu. Oduduwa, according to the legend, had to be expelled from Mecca when he resorted to idolatry. This is another unacceptable story in that it implied that the Yoruba must have come into existence as a group after faithful Muslims expelled Oduduwa some 1,500 years ago.

Ijebu traditional historians tend to stick to the migra­tion legend that the people migrated to their present territory from a region of Sudan called Waddai which means that the Ijebu had a parallel migration wave just like other Yoruba who believe they came to their present abode via Oduduwa. That claim seems to be corroborated by a publication by one Hailemariam which states that "the most powerful people that the Negede Orit (ancient Ethiopian immigrant into Africa) met in East Africa were the Jebus." Their King was claimed to be so influential that he appointed the gover­nors of Yemen. If that king was the same Olu-Iwa, the legendary first Ruler of Ijebuland, we do not know.

There is a lot of evidence in support of the fact that the Ijebus migrated into Nigeria from Sudan. The most ob­vious is the Sudanese tribal mark which, though varied, is duplicated all over Yorubaland. In particular, the three ver­tical marks on both cheeks are the national marks in Ijebu. Moreover, in the border between South Sudan and Ethiopia, the original language which Arabic language has super­seded is very similar to Ijebu dialect. Names of people such as Saba, Esiwu, Meleki (corruption of Menelik) and many others are still common in Ijebu and the South of Sudan. A kind of flute which was formerly used during the coronation ceremony of the Awujale is still used in Ethio­pia and South of Sudan. In the second place, the passage quoted from 'Ethiopian History' by Hailemariam at the beginning of this essay shows that Negede Orit which entered Ethiopia several cen­turies before King Solomon and the famous Makida, Queen of Sheba (about 900 B.C.) met the Ijebus on the east Coast of Southern Sudan.

The ancestors of the Ijebus who now inhabit Ijebu-Ode and districts came into Nigeria from the ancient Kingdom of Owodaiye of Ethiopia which came to an end as a result of Arab supremacy in Middle East and the Sudan where Owodaiye was situated. The Kingdom of Owodaiye was bounded in the North by Nubia; in the East by Tigre and the Kingdom of Axum; in the West there was no clear boundary, while along its South-Eastern border, it was bounded by the land of Punt. With these people the Ijebus share their culture and religion. With the Tigrians and ancient Axumites the Ijebus share their tribal marks which are made up of three vertical marks on the cheeks while with the Egyptians, the Nubians and Puntite people, the Ijebu share many of their funeral rites, the Agemo cult and the Erikiran.

The Yorubas in Nubia were the nearest people to the Ijebus in Owo aiye. Even the Ijebus differ from the Yoruba in many respects. For example, while the main Yoruba group practice circumcision on both male and female members of the family, the Ijebus never practice it on the female members; the Yorubas used to bore the lower part of the ear in both male and female while the male never bore in Ijebu.

The first major wave of Sudanese that entered Nigeria was led by Iwase who came to Ife several centu­ries before the major Sudanese immigrations under Oduduwa and Olu-Iwa. The Iwase group of immigrants came during the reign of Esumare of Ife Erinrin. The next group of Sudanese immigrants were the Ijebus and the kindred peoples under Olu-Iwa, who entered the country at about the same time as the Yoruba under Oduduwa. There are many reasons to believe that they arrived before the main Yoruba group. The most important reason was stated in a Yoruba tradition that when Oduduwa was alive, he became partially blind and went to consult Agbonniregun, an Ife Priest, with a view to finding out what he must apply to his eyes to regain his sight. Agbonniregun recommended brine and so Oduduwa had to send one of his sons, Obokun, to the sea to bring him sea water. The latter wandered for many years in vain until he came to the King of Ijebu for help. This king sent a messenger to guide him to the sea and on Obokun's re­turn to !Ijebu, the King of the ljebus (Lewu Legusen) gave Obokun medicines for Oduduwa's eyes. And when Oduduwa applied the brine and the medicine, he regained his sight. The above tradition shows that the ljebus were in Nigeria before the main Yoruba stock because the king of Ijebu referred to was The fifth Awujale. In appreciation of this service, Oduduwa determined to visit the King of Ijebu, but he died about fifteen miles east of Ijebu-Ode. His followers settled down at Idofe, a town which has now become extinct.

The Ijebu legend tracing their origin to Waddai must have brought the known rivalry between them and other Yoruba people. If, indeed, Lamurudu and Oduduwa de­scended from Omu, the younger brother of Olu-Iwa, there is some sense in the claim that the Ijebus are senior to other Yorubas and cannot, therefore, accept the junior position that put them under the Ooni of Ife or Alafin of Oyo.

The bulk of Yoruba people regard the ljebus as peripheral Yoruba while the ljebus themselves do not hide the fact that the cohesion between them and others who call themselves central Yoruba has been the result of cultural and political interaction over the centuries. Time itself has taken care of these legends as the various groups of people in Western Nigeria have come to accept a common Nationality as Yoruba, be they Ekiti, Ijesha, Egba, Ondo, Ijebu, etc.. Even among the Ijebus, there are conflicting claims to the source of origin depending on the political intention of those concerned. Irrespective of these claims, the Ijebus are united under the leadership of the Awujale of Ijebuland and this unity is the strength of the people as exhibited by their achievements in the past 40 years of the reign of Oba Sikiru Adetona, Ogbagba II.
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http://www.ijebuassociation.org/Discover-Ijebuland/History/ctl/Details/
NOT FRANK

phyllosilicate:
.It baffles me when Igbos here tries to deny the Benin linkage of Onitcha. Looks closely at he pics below, first is Obi of Onitcha, second Oba of Lagos, 3rd Beni chiefs. You could see they are all with the Benin staff.

What sort of linkage are you talking about that the Igbos have with Bini?
That the kings you mentioned above have some identical items do not in any way prove that they are of the same ancestry.
Cultures borrow from one another.
Would you say that since Nigerians wear western styled suits that they are now westerners or whites?
Anyway,come to think of it,the Binis say that they had ancient rulers who they called Ogisos and who they said came from the heavens( meaning that the Ogisos were not Binis- more or less).Take the above into account,then go through this thread with open mind: https://www.nairaland.com/1975320/ancient-igbo-rule-over-parts.

ARIZONA123:
. You know one thing about you low lifers. U think everybody is as jobless and useless as you guys. Tony is a gentleman who can employ ur entire poverty stricken cursed family. Gerrout

one thing I have noticed is that most of them are kids , most of them are still dependent on their folks and can't stand on their own and what I do is through facts on them and ignore their ranting ...why engage a nobody ..so I let them whine

they are happy to say who is igbo or not but when you through history on them instead of refuting it they start making jest of themselves

well I am not surprised their people are known to be loud , obnoxious and braggards

what do you do to their type? ignore them ...you can see how they talk ..like kids they are



many of them will not be able to talk to most of us in real life ...with all due humility ...internet is a leveler anyway


nna kedu

Habakus:
Well,from all what I've gathered here,there's no doubt whatsoever that Ikwerres are Igbos.
It's only but an ignorant fellow that will bear Igbo names(even his/her great grand parents had Igbo names too),speak Igbo language,have Igbo kings,have Igbo culture and still allow some other persons to rewrite his/her history. That is the most subtle and easiest way for the person's genealogy and identity to be lost.
As for the Ijebus,the Aworis; especially the Ijebus,I feel they still have a lot of researches to do concerning their ancestry. Personally,I feel they are not Yorubas; or atleast not from the stock of the 'conc' Yorubas. Infact,majority of them greatly differ from the 'conc' Yorubas in terms of physical attributes,character,social disposition etc.
Weldone Pazienza. I like how you comment with facts,experience and maturity.

you have said the archeological and sociological fact but mind you these insulting kids will call you names

tonychristopher:
one thing I have noticed is that most of them are kids , most of them are still dependent on their folks and can't stand on their own and what I do is through facts on them and ignore their ranting ...why engage a nobody ..so I let them whine

they are happy to say who is igbo or not but when you through history on them instead of refuting it they start making jest of themselves

well I am not surprised their people are known to be loud , obnoxious and braggards

what do you do to their type? ignore them ...you can see how they talk ..like kids they are



many of them will not be able to talk to most of us in real life ...with all due humility ...internet is a leveler anyway


nna kedu

Well said

phyllosilicate:
.It baffles me when Igbos here tries to deny the Benin linkage of Onitcha. Looks closely at he pics below, first is Obi of Onitcha, second Oba of Lagos, 3rd Beni chiefs. You could see they are all with the Benin staff.

It is quite shameful indeed....shameless animals....even in the picture.......apart from the staff of office.. ...you can see his dressing is in white and Benin beads which is the known attire of the Kingdom of Benin Chiefs..... ....so we can see Anioma is not ibo...neither is ikwerre.....or etche......or ika....or agbor or asaba.....most of these places are either Benin or independent of old Benin.... ...the ibos r just the four landlocked States in the SE....they are free to go with those..... ...but if they touch any of our brothers no sisters.......retribution will be terrible...

Jesusloveyou:
we are talking about 300yrs ago,many bini names has gone into extinction, for example, if bini came from oduduwa lineage, as of today nobody bears oduduwa in Benin kingdom, d same way onitsha is also trace to Benin kingdom, Benin kingdom actually extended from owo in ondo to agbor to onitsha,

my brother please forget propaganda and lies that were built after the civil war.

The truth is that some Igbo's migrated west and later returned down south.
Eze Chima in Igbo means King Chima because up till now Igbos still answer Chima. Onitsha is a corrupt version of Onicha. It is the white people that changed Onicha to Onitsha for convenience sake.
My brother... If you go to Ebonyi state, we have a place called Onicha too. In Delta we have Onicha Ugbo, which in Igbo means a place for faming.

In Onitsha of Anambra state, the place main market is, is called Otu Nkwo. Nkwo is both market and day in Igboland.

In Igboland, every family has Obi. Obi is the head of every family before church came and changed many things.

My point in all these, is that... This version of story of Ikwere and Onitsha coming from Bini is a very big lie.

coolitempa:
It is quite shameful indeed....shameless animals....even in the picture.......apart from the staff of office.. ...you can see his dressing is in white and Benin beads which is the known attire of the Kingdom of Benin Chiefs..... ....so we can see Anioma is not ibo...neither is ikwerre.....or etche......or ika....or agbor or asaba.....most of these places are either independent of old Benin.... ...the ibos r just the four landlocked States in the SE....they are free to go with those..... ...but if they touch any of our brothers no sisters.......retribution will be terrible...

after all these ranting ...who made you the spokesman

please google mid west invasion
thank you ....oh talk is absolutely cheap

Chigold101:
my brother please forget propaganda and lies that were built after the civil war.

The truth is that some Igbo's migrated west and later returned down south.
Eze Chima in Igbo means King Chima because up till now Igbos still answer Chima. Onitsha is a corrupt version of Onicha. It is the white people that changed Onicha to Onitsha for convenience sake.
My brother... If you go to Ebonyi state, we have a place called Onicha too. In Delta we have Onicha Ugbo, which in Igbo means a place for faming.

In Onitsha of Anambra state, the place main market is, is called Otu Nkwo. Nkwo is both market and day in Igboland.

In Igboland, every family has Obi. Obi is the head of every family before church came and changed many things.

My point in all these, is that... This version of story of Ikwere and Onitsha coming from Bini is a very big lie.

they will not tell you that some parts of Onitsha came from iguedo the only daughter of NRI

but why waste mb on these fellows anyway ?

they won't say that ...but we have onicha in delta igbo , we have onicha in anambra we gave in Ebonyi we have in IMO we have onicha in abia also...so maybe in their stupidity their Benin named all these places ..just like owerre ..we have towns names owerre in all igbo speaking areas even in delta igbo ..so owerre we as from maybe Sydney

why don't you ignore them

WHO CARES

tonychristopher:
they will not tell you that some parts of Onitsha came from iguedo the only daughter of NRI

but why waste mb on these fellows anyway ?

they won't say that ...but we have onicha in delta igbo , we have onicha in anambra we gave in Ebonyi we have in IMO we have onicha in abia also...so maybe in their stupidity their Benin named all these places ..just like owerre ..we have towns names owerre in all igbo speaking areas even in delta igbo ..so owerre we as from maybe Sydney

why don't you ignore them

thankio my brother