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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 8:26pm On Aug 27, 2015
Gbola5:
Was talking of that pic. Even if they cut it into a movie, why dont they follow.the cut part, is what im saying.
Because that's not how adaptations work.

99% of the time, the story is changed to a degree to maximise profit or for whatever reason. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any adaptation that has stayed true to its source material. It is The way it works.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 8:54pm On Aug 27, 2015
gj22:
Strawman's argument.

Telling a good story has nothing to do with what I am saying. A "good story" is subjective (based on opinion).

I am just telling him why the stories cannot remain the same.

Mention one top novel or whatever in which they changed mediums and the story was the same, just mention one. This is how things are done.

That's why they write "based on the novel" in the credits scene.
You keep saying its how its done, have you seen LoTR have you read the books. Yeah some are hard, but you should try as much as possible not to stray away from the story. Afterall do you think GrrM would give them the rights too his books if he knew they would deviate so much. Do you think they said so themselves. You might say, but GrrM writes for the show, he's part of the writers, but check out his ssm on that. If it wasnt telling a good story from the start would you be so hooked ? You said yourself how some other shows suck on here, now why is that ?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 4:08am On Aug 28, 2015
Gbola5:
You keep saying its how its done, have you seen LoTR have you read the books. Yeah some are hard, but you should try as much as possible not to stray away from the story.
It was their choice to stray. Saying they should have tried as much as possible is implying that they had no choice.

Afterall do you think GrrM would give them the rights too his books if he knew they would deviate so much. Do you think they said so themselves. You might say, but GrrM writes for the show, he's part of the writers, but check out his ssm on that.
Haha. You really think he had no idea they were gonna tell it differently? Lol. It's a contract, if he didn't want them to tell it differently, he would have told them not to.

If it wasnt telling a good story from the start would you be so hooked ?
Not sure the point you are trying to make here because I am still hooked

You said yourself how some other shows suck on here, now why is that ?
Not sure what this has to do with anything


Am not sure why this is even an argument.

http://www.writingstudio.co.za/page62.html
A quote from the above article..(the article was cited by Wikipedia so don't think it's some jobless blogger that wrote it)
Adapting novels
A novel usually takes place inside the character's head. A play deals with the language of dramatic action. A screenplay deals with externals, with details - the ticking of a clock, a child playing in an empty street, a car turning the corner. Up to 25% of all feature films have been literary adaptations.
After seeing the film version of a well-known novel, most of us have commented that the book was better, or different in some part. Adapting a book into a screenplay means to change one (book) into another (screenplay), not to superimpose one onto the other.
A novel usually deals with the internal life of someone, the character's thoughts, feelings, emotions, and memories occurring within the mindscape of dramatic action. In a novel you can write the same scene in a sentence, a paragraph, a page, or chapter, describing the internal dialogue, the thoughts, feelings, and impressions of the character. A novel usually takes place inside the character's head.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by seagulsntrawler: 10:45am On Aug 28, 2015
One of my favourite conversations was between Braun and Tyron, while he was in prison.
Braun: But what`ll you do?
Tyron: I suppose I`ll have to kill the mountain myself. Won't that make a great song?
Braun: I hope to hear them sing it one day
gringringrin
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 1:44pm On Aug 28, 2015
gj22:
It was their choice to stray. Saying they should have tried as much as possible is implying that they had no choice.
Why did they have to stray. What required them straying. They had a choice, but they decided to stray.



Haha. You really think he had no idea they were gonna tell it differently? Lol. It's a contract, if he didn't want them to tell it differently, he would have told them not to.[/quote]He would know that not everything can be adapted. Now he has nothing to do with the show. Ofcourse he'll act professional about the whole thing.



Not sure the point you are trying to make here because I am still hooked[/quote]Cause they we're telling a good story. If the story was crap we wouldnt watch it, that's my point, for you said " You do realise that the point of the show is to make money and sell more books right? "



Not sure what this has to do with anything[/quote]Its the story, not to make money, that just comes. Might be the point of some shows is to make money.


Am not sure why this is even an argument.

http://www.writingstudio.co.za/page62.html
A quote from the above article..(the article was cited by Wikipedia so don't think it's some jobless blogger that wrote it)[/quote]
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 5:14pm On Aug 28, 2015
sarutobie:
my only grouse with the director(s) is, if you are going to cut a story short atleast tell it is at originally was.The heck with Briene killing stannis? she was never close to the battlefield in the book..and sansa marrying the Bolton spawn? they deviated A LOT in the last season...
I cldnt agree more...
Season 1 was d only season whr d kinda stirred closely 2 d books.. N season 2 partly...
Currently reading storm of swords (season 3) n av come across ginormous chasms BTW d book n series...
Luv d series more tho...
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 5:20pm On Aug 28, 2015
adexsimply:
GOT has no protagonists. @bolded, that was the last episode of GOT so you can't say you've stopped watching the show.
Sup Throner... Mehn!!! Wich is y I like dt series 2 bits
It's so tiring watching some of dis oda series wen u knw notin fit happen 2 d actor come wat may...
I get bored n abandon doz series eventually... Lol

So many hslf-viewef series on Ma system...
Dnt knw wat oda series 2 watch wallai...
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 5:35pm On Aug 28, 2015
muphasar11:
Sorry I can't read this thread from the beginning but do you have the books for this seasonal film. If so how did and how can I Get it
https://archive.org/
details/1.AGameOfThrones.
Follow dt link
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 7:58pm On Aug 28, 2015
JhyMedex:
https://archive.org/
details/1.AGameOfThrones.
Follow dt link
Thanks boss
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 8:07pm On Aug 28, 2015
JhyMedex:
Sup Throner... Mehn!!! Wich is y I like dt series 2 bits
It's so tiring watching some of dis oda series wen u knw notin fit happen 2 d actor come wat may...
I get bored n abandon doz series eventually... Lol

So many hslf-viewef series on Ma system...
Dnt knw wat oda series 2 watch wallai...
You're missing out if you're looking for shows that are unpredictable like GoT.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 10:10pm On Aug 28, 2015
Gbola5:
Why did they have to stray. What required them straying. They had a choice, but they decided to stray.



Haha. You really think he had no idea they were gonna tell it differently? Lol. It's a contract, if he didn't want them to tell it differently, he would have told them not to.

He would know that not everything can be adapted. Now he has nothing to do with the show. Ofcourse he'll act professional about the whole thing.



Not sure the point you are trying to make here because I am still hooked

Cause they we're telling a good story. If the story was crap we wouldnt watch it, that's my point, for you said " You do realise that the point of the show is to make money and sell more books right? "




Not sure what this has to do with anything

Its the story, not to make money, that just comes. Might be the point of some shows is to make money.



Am not sure why this is even an argument.

http://www.writingstudio.co.za/page62.html
A quote from the above article..(the article was cited by Wikipedia so don't think it's some jobless blogger that wrote it)
@bolded 1) that's how it works in the industry.
Adapting a book into a screenplay means to change one (book) into another (screenplay), not to superimpose one onto the other.

@bolded 2) you really have no idea how contracts work do you? Or copyright laws. Or literature. Let me just briefly say that if he didn't want them to change anything, he would have told them not to. It's his work and he owns all the rights to it.

@bolded 3)lol. Don't be in denial man, the main reason is to make money. Telling a good story just happens to be the way to do it.

@bolded 4) haha. So you think HBO, D& D, GrrM made all this happen primarily to tell a good story? Lol. It's about the money first.


Anyway, I don't feel like arguing this anymore so I am just going to quote myself again.
gj22:
http://www.writingstudio.co.za/page62.html
A quote from the above article..(the article was cited by Wikipedia so don't think it's some jobless blogger that wrote it)

Adapting novels
A novel usually takes place inside the character's head. A play deals with the language of dramatic action. A screenplay deals with externals, with details - the ticking of a clock, a child playing in an empty street, a car turning the corner. Up to 25% of all feature films have been literary adaptations.
After seeing the film version of a well-known novel, most of us have commented that the book was better, or different in some part. Adapting a book into a screenplay means to change one (book) into another (screenplay), not to superimpose one onto the other.
A novel usually deals with the internal life of someone, the character's thoughts, feelings, emotions, and memories occurring within the mindscape of dramatic action. In a novel you can write the same scene in a sentence, a paragraph, a page, or chapter, describing the internal dialogue, the thoughts, feelings, and impressions of the character. A novel usually takes place inside the character's head.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 10:21pm On Aug 28, 2015
Gbola5:
You're missing out if you're looking for shows that are unpredictable like GoT.
I couldn't agree more. Top quality shows right now (my opinion)

The brink

The whispers

Zoo (kind of)

Ballers

Murder in the first

Etc
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by simdam500(m): 10:40am On Aug 29, 2015
OK my review

Game of thrones season 4, was a cliffhanger all through. I've denied myself a lot to pronounce the movie the best I've seen but now is not the time to.

It started with the visit of Prince Oberyn to kings landing for king Joffrey's wedding ceremony to the tyrell.

Joffrey died during his own wedding ceremony and thanks to everyone that must-have watched the episode before I do for not spoiling the death scenario for me, it was fun watching him fall but the path he fell through is what I won't wish for my enemies. Tyrion been the suspect wasn't what I hoped for.

And I must commend "whoever it may concern". The whole quote that was used to prove Tyrion guilty of the crime (regicide) was what he actually said but not the actual sense. So, I say kudos

"Today is not the day I day" - Prince Oberyn Martell
___________

"Are you going to fight that" - His wife
"No, I'm going to kill that" - Prince Oberyn Martell.

What a positive confession, but Broon already said something "I'll be a bloody fool if he didn't frightened me, he's freakish big and freakish strong, and quicker than you expect from a man of that size. Listen, maybe I could take him, dance around until he's so tired of hacking at me, he dropped his sword, get him off his feet somehow,
But one misstep.............
*snap his fingers*
Then I'm DEAD".

Prince Oberyn ought to have seen he's got two stones to kill one bird, instead of using one to kill one bird, he decided to divide the bird into two in order to use the two stones which led to his demise.

Ygritte on the other hand, I never planned to see you die that soon, until that moment the arrow was shot at you and I'll side you on that "Jon snow knew Nothing" lol
https://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-10-2014/LgQ7uo.gif

My review, a lot happened I can't put into words but season 4 was da bomb!
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ApexTitan(m): 11:12am On Aug 30, 2015
^ Your review is like a year late though.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 12:12am On Sep 02, 2015
Gbola5:
He expected more
from the world and its people than
southerners did. then, when he
"failed" to adapt to the moral abyss
he found at KL, that wasn't
stupidity, that was him trying to
lead them out of the darkness by
example. He ran out of steam is all.
The court of KL were all
degenerates who'd grown eyes on
the back of their heads to watch out
for each other because they were
all backstabbers. Ned hadn't yet
degenerated like that, so he was
more highly evolved than their lower
form of life, but they were more
specialized to succeed in their
chosen environment.
Not stupidity. A victim of bad
circumstances. Yeah. blame the victim, have tea with LF.
N dt was his mistake ryt dere.
D same mistake Lord Jon Snow made dt ultimately cost him his life.
(Seems d saying "a fruit does nt fall far frm it's tree" can b aptly applied in dis scenario)
U DNT COME IN2 A SYSTEM N AGGRESSIVELY (-4 want of a beta word) WANT TO CHANGE DT SYSTEM SUDDENLY....

U were raised a xtian bt nt anymore..
Am nt in dis moment concerned wit d y or hw u arrived at whr u r nw....
Bt I want 2 beliv u Remember Apostle Paul n one of his more popular sayings...

He says sth within dis track : Whenever he finds himself among gentiles, he acts like one, n in d company of Jews he acted like em...

N 2day d Apostle Paul is arguably d most popular n renowned of d apostles.... He wrote more books in d Bible Dan all d oda apostles put 2geda n oda writers in d Bible...

Am nt used 2 typing long tory n epistles like oga Paul..
Bt my stand is pressed down n buitifully conveyed by d 38th LAW OF POWER




Law 38 :
THINK AS YOU LIKE BUT BEHAVE LIKE OTHERS

I f you make a show OF going against the times, flaunting your unconventional ideas and unorthodox ways, people will think that you only want attention and that you look down upon them. They will find a way to punish you For making them Feel inferior. It is Far safer to blend in and nurture the common TOUCH....
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 12:20am On Sep 02, 2015
gj22:
I couldn't agree more. Top quality shows right now (my opinion)
The brink
The whispers
Zoo (kind of)
Ballers
Murder in the first
Etc
Den Gratitude 4 nudging attention 2wads more Pressing matters...
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by JhyMedex: 12:25am On Sep 02, 2015
Am kinda more inclined 2wads political series...
Doz Dan involve minds working 2 outdo n out maneuver each oda...

GOT,

SCANDAL,

HOUSE OF CARDS,

et al...

Any among doz u mentioned?..
Gratitude again
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 2:29pm On Sep 02, 2015
JhyMedex:
N dt was his mistake ryt dere.
D same mistake Lord Jon Snow made dt ultimately cost him his life.
(Seems d saying "a fruit does nt fall far frm it's tree" can b aptly applied in dis scenario)
U DNT COME IN2 A SYSTEM N AGGRESSIVELY (-4 want of a beta word) WANT TO CHANGE DT SYSTEM SUDDENLY....

U were raised a xtian bt nt anymore..
Am nt in dis moment concerned wit d y or hw u arrived at whr u r nw....
Bt I want 2 beliv u Remember Apostle Paul n one of his more popular sayings...

He says sth within dis track : Whenever he finds himself among gentiles, he acts like one, n in d company of Jews he acted like em...

N 2day d Apostle Paul is arguably d most popular n renowned of d apostles.... He wrote more books in d Bible Dan all d oda apostles put 2geda n oda writers in d Bible...

Am nt used 2 typing long tory n epistles like oga Paul..
Bt my stand is pressed down n buitifully conveyed by d 38th LAW OF POWER




Law 38 :
THINK AS YOU LIKE BUT BEHAVE LIKE OTHERS

I f you make a show OF going against the times, flaunting your unconventional ideas and unorthodox ways, people will think that you only want attention and that you look down upon them. They will find a way to punish you For making them Feel inferior. It is Far safer to blend in and nurture the common TOUCH....
Ned was flawed. But lots of people overexaggerate the consequences of his actions. The story is to complex to blame one person for all has happened, but Varys and LF CAN take a great share of the blame.
What d'you mean by "raised a christian but not anymore" ? And don't talk to me about Paul, that unjustifiable hypocrite.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by UjSizzle(f): 11:58am On Sep 03, 2015
grin

Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by emmastone019(f): 6:08am On Sep 04, 2015
Cant wait to see the imp.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by UjSizzle(f): 8:44pm On Sep 05, 2015
How delightful cheesy
Well, we can expect to be 'lost' in episodes 5 and 6 then.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by eniolaamoda: 8:52pm On Sep 05, 2015
wen will season 6 come out na
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 10:05pm On Sep 06, 2015
eniolaamoda:
wen will season 6 come out na
April 2016. You can chill with 'How To Get Away With Murder' 'Power' 'Dominion' and 'House Of Cards' till then. Those series are fantastic too.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 10:15pm On Sep 06, 2015
[quote author=landinfo post=37691720][/quote]Heh !
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ctuagent007: 11:50pm On Sep 06, 2015
[quote author=landinfo post=37691720][/quote]Na him be say season 6 go dey too explosive except the directors decide otherwise seeing as GRRM hasn't completed the 6th book....but I read somewhere on the net that "there are in fact 7 books already but that the 6 & 7th boos are not available some how sha"
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by adexsimply(m): 9:07am On Sep 07, 2015
Orphan Black
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by UjSizzle(f): 6:18pm On Sep 07, 2015
adexsimply:
Orphan Black
That's a series?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by adexsimply(m): 7:06pm On Sep 07, 2015
UjSizzle:
That's a series?
Yes. Sci-fi. I started last week, ended season 3 yesterday. Not bad at all. wink
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by bufness(m): 5:44pm On Sep 09, 2015
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by iykmora(m): 8:06pm On Sep 09, 2015
worst of 'em all...
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