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Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Nobody: 10:30pm On Sep 01, 2015
Krak:


I have already been penalised.
Following your logic dt penalty is bollocks,your entire slip should hve been disqualified,read d rule gain.
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by jideprof: 10:33pm On Sep 01, 2015
Krak:


There is no logical option to choose for any game. We see the same thing with different eyes from different positions.

FYI SO MANY PEOPLE also chose Dundalk to win.

it's a good thing you know the market is not for you alone. angry

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Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by tonyx4x44(m): 10:34pm On Sep 01, 2015
Buddyy:
Bro you've a valid point, &there is genuine reason for concern. Your direct opponent copied same market of same game as u, his slip should be voided &that slot returned. RULES ARE RULES!...he can play it on his normal merrybet account, but he cant use it for the competition as u posted b4 him. shikena!
cc: Puskin
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by akraym(m): 10:35pm On Sep 01, 2015
First of all let me get thing straighten up.

When krak accused him of playing 3 of his games, I checked and saw 3 events which had already appeared on kraks games and the first one which was duldalk has the same market as krak's own. I had to go through the rules on the first pages (and I saw that the issue of game duplication was not included),

I had assumed (according to krak's accusation and the first game I saw) that he actually played the same events and market as his own. But on careful observation, I saw that he only had one game which was exactly like krak's own (which could be a co-incidence) and its not enough to penalise him.

For those saying am taking sides, I beg to differ.
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by tonyx4x44(m): 10:37pm On Sep 01, 2015
kaya09:

Following your logic dt penalty is bollocks,your entire slip should hve been disqualified,read d rule gain.


wrong.., the rule say there will be consequences

this consequences are not specified

the judgement passed and punishment given seem pretty okay to me

and nobody challenged it
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Krak(m): 10:38pm On Sep 01, 2015
jideprof:


it's a good thing you know the market is not for you alone. angry

Yes true, in a normal situation. But this is a competition and he is my direct competitor from the same group who posted it hours after I posted mine.

And he was perfectly aware of the games I chose, based on evidence here.

I believe we should not talk too much here. Let the wise and knowledgable judges decide.

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Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by tonyx4x44(m): 10:40pm On Sep 01, 2015
in line with the rule stated by akryam concerning duplication among direct competition krak has every right to protest, seeing that the games were posted at least 2 hours apart

since the beginning of this competition I've always checked my opponents' games to ensure I'm not selecting the same game and Market
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Krak(m): 10:42pm On Sep 01, 2015
akraym:
First of all let me get thing straighten up.

When krak accused him of playing 3 of his games, I checked and saw 3 events which had already appeared on kraks games and the first one which was duldalk has the same market as krak's own. I had to go through the rules on the first pages (and I saw that the issue of game duplication was not included),

I had assumed (according to krak's accusation and the first game I saw) that he actually played the same events and market as his own. But on careful observation, I saw that he only had one game which was exactly like krak's own (which could be a co-incidence) and its not enough to penalise him.

For those saying am taking sides, I beg to differ.

I respectfully beg to differ sir. He was perfectly aware because of his comments hours before when I posted my game.
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Buddyy(m): 10:42pm On Sep 01, 2015
Krak:


Yes true, in a normal situation. But this is a competition and he is my direct competitor from the same group who posted it hours after I posted mine.

And he was perfectly aware of the games I chose, based on evidence here.

I believe we should not talk too much here. Let the wise and knowledgable judges decide.
Even if the slip is not voided, that particular game shud be cancelled &total odds calculated for all the other game on the slip. there shud be an advantage to posting early, ur opponent shudnt be allowed to duplicate any market on same game on ur slip.
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Nobody: 10:48pm On Sep 01, 2015
This matter never finish?
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Nobody: 10:48pm On Sep 01, 2015
akraym:
First of all let me get thing straighten up.

When krak accused him of playing 3 of his games, I checked and saw 3 events which had already appeared on kraks games and the first one which was duldalk has the same market as krak's own. I had to go through the rules on the first pages (and I saw that the issue of game duplication was not included),

I had assumed (according to krak's accusation and the first game I saw) that he actually played the same events and market as his own. But on careful observation, I saw that he only had one game which was exactly like krak's own (which could be a co-incidence) and its not enough to penalise him.

For those saying am taking sides, I beg to differ.
Thank God you just said something very sensible,they are giving duplication an ambigious meaning
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by jideprof: 10:48pm On Sep 01, 2015
Krak:


Yes true, in a normal situation. But this is a competition and he is my direct competitor from the same group who posted it hours after I posted mine.

And he was perfectly aware of the games I chose, based on evidence here.

I believe we should not talk too much here. Let the wise and knowledgable judges decide.

my stupid suggestion is; if his game must be voided, and his slot returned then you automatically lose your own slot too. (if the rules must apply!) tongue
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Nobody: 10:52pm On Sep 01, 2015
Krak, all dis noise is because ur selections played out, for Goodness sake you made 7 selections, just one of it coincided with his, and u now of d opinion you got copied. Stop wailing dis hard bro. Out of this 7 selections, any one would v gone bad and if dat being the case, i am sure by now u would v gone cold, then why not JustThank God for ur slip and move on, 'cos as i noted, d coincidence was in no way obvious nor deliberate.
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by akraym(m): 11:11pm On Sep 01, 2015
For everyone saying tex25 game should be voided. The issue of "Game Duplication" was not among the rules pasted before the start of this competition, even though it had existed from day 1 of the PfP, so on what ground are we going to void his game. Only God knows how it miraculously got omitted. The rule is being amended presently and would be pasted just in time.
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by akraym(m): 11:13pm On Sep 01, 2015
FINAL UPDATE FOR GROUP 1 - 4

GROUP 1
Drey22 0 slot left [5 points] Qualified
stlaibrowne 2 slots left [1 point]
DonJoeSneh 0 slot left [1 point]
abeynoni 3 slots left [1 point]
klens 3 slots left [1 point]

GROUP 2
Rhemite 0 slot left [8 points]Qualified
bignoble05 0 slot left [3 points]
Richiesuazo 0 slot left [1 point]
Kayultimate 2 slots left [1 point]
credid 3 slots left [1 point]

GROUP 3
tonyx4x44 0 slot left [8 points]Qualified
taiwo005 0 slot left [1 point]
Bobbyrari 1 slot left [1 point]
nwobiebuka 3 slots left [1 point]
talph 3 slots left [1 point]

GROUP 4
krak 0 slot left [7 points] Qualified
Tex25 0 slot left [4 points]
donajisafe 0 slot left [3 points]
nymphomaniac 3 slots left [1 point]
lordSeyad 2 slots left [1 point]
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by akraym(m): 11:18pm On Sep 01, 2015
0000GMT 2nd Sept - 2359GMT 4th Sept

GROUP 5
Swash042
Adino
okastech
ngezeck
femcruz

GROUP 6
Timbuktu14
krall3
Elemona94
adeswagsdmj
abolem

GROUP 7
overdrive
dicksj93
dennisworld1
visita
JamesV

GROUP 8
Talktofemi
Dygeasy
everdon1993
ausproxi
Siegfried99

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Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by jideprof: 11:22pm On Sep 01, 2015
akraym:
FINAL UPDATE FOR GROUP 1 - 4

GROUP 1
Drey22 0 slot left [5 points] Qualified
stlaibrowne 2 slots left [1 point]
DonJoeSneh 0 slot left [1 point]
abeynoni 3 slots left [1 point]
klens 3 slots left [1 point]

GROUP 2
Rhemite 0 slot left [8 points]Qualified
bignoble05 0 slot left [3 points]
Richiesuazo 0 slot left [1 point]
Kayultimate 2 slots left [1 point]
credid 3 slots left [1 point]

GROUP 3
tonyx4x44 0 slot left [8 points]Qualified
taiwo005 0 slot left [1 point]
Bobbyrari 1 slot left [1 point]
nwobiebuka 3 slots left [1 point]
talph 3 slots left [1 point]

GROUP 4
krak 0 slot left [6 points] Qualified
Tex25 0 slot left [4 points]
donajisafe 0 slot left [3 points]
nymphomaniac 3 slots left [1 point]
lordSeyad 2 slots left [1 point]

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Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Opiosko: 11:36pm On Sep 01, 2015
akraym:
For everyone saying tex25 game should be voided. The issue of "Game Duplication" was not among the rules pasted before the start of this competition, even though it had existed from day 1 of the PfP, so on what ground are we going to void his game. Only God knows how it miraculously got omitted. The rule is being amended presently and would be pasted just in time.
Akraym pls u cannot amend a rule in the middle of a competition when someone has benefited from it. It's either u void the game and deem the rule to be a 'norm' (a kind of custom particular to the event) in the completion or u leave the rule outta the tournament.

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Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Timbuktu14(m): 11:45pm On Sep 01, 2015
Opiosko:
Akraym pls u cannot amend a rule in the middle of a competition when someone has benefited from it. It's either u void the game and deem the rule to be a 'norm' (a kind of custom particular to the event) in the completion or u leave the rule outta the tournament.
word! Someone said something about mending the rules yesterday, he said it was a no no. Why go back on his words today. This thing no just right... Front, back and centre! Anyhow mehn!
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Opiosko: 11:58pm On Sep 01, 2015
Timbuktu14:
word! Someone said something about mending the rules yesterday, he said it was a no no. Why go back on his words today. This thing no just right... Front, back and centre! Anyhow mehn!
Hmm! I don't really have time to go through the whole posts but there are some issues that cannot be pushed aside. The organisers cannot be allowed to modify rules at will, especially in the middle of a competition. It's not done anywhere and it shows a tendency to act fraudulently. Cc Akraym, Pulskin, Troot.
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Timbuktu14(m): 12:01am On Sep 02, 2015
Opiosko:
Hmm! I don't really have time to go through the whole posts but there are some issues that cannot be pushed aside. The organisers cannot be allowed to modify rules at will, especially in the middle of a competition. It's not done anywhere and it shows a tendency to act fraudulently. Cc Akraym, Pulskin, Troot.
thats the way it is man.
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by akraym(m): 12:02am On Sep 02, 2015
Opiosko:
Akraym pls u cannot amend a rule in the middle of a competition when someone has benefited from it. It's either u void the game and deem the rule to be a 'norm' (a kind of custom particular to the event) in the completion or u leave the rule outta the tournament.
the rule is what I screen munched, if you go through it, it says "a pick cannot be used more than 3 times by all contestants" not even opponents - All Contestants - and considering the limited games available and the large number of contestants competing now, the rule needs slight modification.

The rule was omitted and we have to place it back with a little amendment. Nobody has benefited from it
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Buddyy(m): 12:02am On Sep 02, 2015
Opiosko:
Hmm! I don't really have time to go through the whole posts but there are some issues that cannot be pushed aside. The organisers cannot be allowed to modify rules at will, especially in the middle of a competition. It's not done anywhere and it shows a tendency to act fraudulently. Cc Akraym, Pulskin, Troot.
if you knew the potential problems duplication of an opponent's pick can cause, i'm sure u'd change ur opinion

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Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Nobody: 12:09am On Sep 02, 2015
puskin:

FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF DOUBT, LEMME PASTE THE GENERAL RULES THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS TOURNEY AS COPIED FROM THE IMAGE.

Rules guiding 2015 MERRYBET PUNT for PRIDE 4

1. You need to be a registered member of MERRYBET to participate.

2. Minimum allowed odd is 1.5 (single or combo)

3. All markets and odds must be from , and participants are REQUIRED to stake (min. N200) on their game(s) for it to be valid.

4. You are required to Copy and Paste your games on the thread (PUNT for PRIDE 4) after staking. We are only after the bet number/ID, merrybet username, games and odd and not the amount staked, but remember minimum amount to stake is N200.

5. The tournament is NOT limited to football only. Picks from other Sports are accepted provided it is from

6. Live in-play is NOT allowed. Odds at in-play change rapidly and we can't keep a good record on such fast-changing odds.

7. Points will be used to grade punters odds (rounded to the nearest whole number) e.g.
1.55 = 2pts
2.76 = 3pts
2.44 = 2pts
5.59 = 6pts
5.49 = 5pts
(in essence, from .5 and above, your odd will be rounded to the nearest whole number).
All points starts at 1. If u lose any of your selections (single/accumulator), no point will be added to u.

8. Singles or accumulator ONLY; no Canadian, Goliath, Yankee. In other words, no 3-from-4 or 5- from-7. Keep it simple.

9. 5 slots to be given each week to all contestants. You can use all your slots on 1 selection but you cannot post any other selection once your slots are exhausted for the week.

10. Any pick/tip/bet without a BET number/ID will be voided and participant risks being DISQUALIFIED from the tournament.

11. All SLOTS not used will be FORFEITED. (There would be NO SLOT carry-overs)

12. All picks/tips/bets/events MUST BE POSTED on the PUNT for PRIDE 4 thread at least 15minutes before the KICK-OFF of the first event on the bet slip.

13. All picks/tips/bets/events must be dropped and played before 11.59pm (ONLY applicable to deadline day)

14. Anyone who drops a pick/bet/tip and requests for it to be voided shall have his/her request granted by:
a) having the game voided.
b) have his SLOT counted as used.


====IN ADDITION====

15. Your pick must be quoted by a participating member of the tourney or the Moderators of the tourney for it to be valid.

16. Time for submission of pick is 0700 - 2359GMT(7AM - 11:59PM) ANY PICK dropped after the deadline time MUST either be quoted by your opponent or one of the Judges/Moderators of the tourney otherwise it is counted as invalid.

17. Any attempts to abuse or break the rules will result in the following disciplinary actions.
*Disqualification from the tourney.

18. Judges/Moderators decision is final.
I want to believe that the aforementioned rules are the rules guiding the '2015' PFP tourney.Therefore any other rule,be it from years ago or years to come,that's not in the above 18 rules is to be termed null and void.Please Mr Akraym,because a rule was enforced in 2013 doesnt mean it still remains valid in 2015.There must be a good reason why that rule wasnt put into existence this year and your going about it that 'It has been there since previous tourneys' spells two things.Either the judges aint ready 'Yet' for the tourney or the judges are incompetent.I wouldnt wanna believe its the latter.So please without further prolonging this matter,i'll advise that the rule of 'no duplication' becomes void,else you guys want to go back to page 0 and add the 'no duplication' rule which I believe is now too late.

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Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Opiosko: 12:13am On Sep 02, 2015
Buddyy:
if you knew the potential problems duplication of an opponent's pick can cause, i'm sure u'd change ur opinion
One person get monopoly of 'picks'? cheesy
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by akraym(m): 12:22am On Sep 02, 2015
Mikkyboy008:

I want to believe that the aforementioned rules are the rules guiding the '2015' PFP tourney.Therefore any other rule,be it from years ago or years to come,that's not in the above 18 rules is to be termed null and void.Please Mr Akraym,because a rule was enforced in 2013 doesnt mean it still remains valid in 2015.There must be a good reason why that rule wasnt put into existence this year and your going about it that 'It has been there since previous tourneys' spells two things.Either the judges aint ready 'Yet' for the tourney or the judges are incompetent.I wouldnt wanna believe its the latter.So please without further prolonging this matter,i'll advise that the rule of 'no duplication' becomes void,else you guys want to go back to page 0 and add the 'no duplication' rule which I believe is now too late.
everyone advocated for a level playing ground, and we are trying to provide that. Once Punter A has an edge over Punter B in terms of point, and he starts duplicating his opponent tips, do you know what that means.

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Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Nobody: 12:28am On Sep 02, 2015
akraym:
everyone advocated for a level playing ground, and we are trying to provide that. Once Punter A has an edge over Punter B in terms of point, and he starts duplicating his opponent tips, do you know what that means.
Simple mathematics sir.It means after the won or lost bet,Punter A still has that same edge over Punter B.
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Timbuktu14(m): 12:34am On Sep 02, 2015
Merrybet Username: Mrtimbuktu14

Group 6

Number of slot(s) used: 1

Bet number: 52727713

Total odds: 5.02

1. 02.09.15 23:30
Internacional RS - Vasco Da Gama RJ (1X2)
Customer type: Internacional RS @ 1.50
Result:

2. 02.09.15 19:15
Kjellerup IF - Aarhus GF (Under/Over 3,5 goals)
Customer type: Over @ 1.55
Result:

3. 02.09.15 16:15
BK Fremad Valby - Hvidovre IF (Under 1.5 goals in each half)
Customer type: No @ 1.20
Result:

4. 02.09.15 17:45
Estonia - Spain (Under/Over 3,5 goals)
Customer type: Over @ 1.80
Result:

Cc akraym, puskin, troot
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by akraym(m): 12:36am On Sep 02, 2015
Mikkyboy008:

Simple mathematics sir.It means after the won or lost bet,Punter A still has that same edge over Punter B.
and he continues with duplicating his opponent pick to eliminate him. Then we need a rule to check mate him.

A perfect example

Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by akraym(m): 12:36am On Sep 02, 2015
Timbuktu14:
Merrybet Username: Mrtimbuktu14
Group 6
Number of slot(s) used: 1
Bet number: 52727713
Total odds: 5.02
1. 02.09.15 23:30 Internacional RS - Vasco Da Gama RJ (1X2) Customer type: Internacional RS @ 1.50 Result:
2. 02.09.15 19:15 Kjellerup IF - Aarhus GF (Under/Over 3,5 goals) Customer type: Over @ 1.55 Result:
3. 02.09.15 16:15 BK Fremad Valby - Hvidovre IF (Under 1.5 goals in each half) Customer type: No @ 1.20 Result:
4. 02.09.15 17:45 Estonia - Spain (Under/Over 3,5 goals) Customer type: Over @ 1.80 Result:
Cc akraym, puskin, troot
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Nobody: 12:46am On Sep 02, 2015
akraym:
everyone advocated for a level playing ground, and we are trying to provide that. Once Punter A has an edge over Punter B in terms of point, and he starts duplicating his opponent tips, do you know what that means.
no one is actually saying tips should be duplicated, common sense, obviously is wrong, but the incidence above is more or a less a coincidence. Which could be waved aside, i mean, d case in which d guy had 7 selections, the other guy had about more than 4 selections and there is this 1 replica of less dan 1.5 odds. . .
Re: MerryBet Punt For Pride IV by Nobody: 12:48am On Sep 02, 2015
akraym:
and he continues with duplicating his opponent pick to eliminate him. Then we need a rule to check mate him.

A perfect example
oh yes, now look at dis particular case, he copied his PENDING games, adding jus a few like 1 or 2 to it. Now this is deliberate manipulation of d norm. With this illustrations you guys can with ease detect and know wen to act and when not to.

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