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| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by QuotaSystem: 2:13pm On Sep 07, 2015*. Modified: 5:04pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
johnserek:If Ironsi's plan had worked do you not realize he would have passed the same decree and it would have been Ibos owning the 83% oil blocs and you STILL would have been complaining? What do you think Ironsi's motivation for unification was? It was a game of domination, the East lost; the North won. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by ayokellany: 2:19pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
johnserek:With All the lamentation you wrote above was your brain dead when Obasanjo was president of Nigeria or where you dead that you can't tell a fellow Yorubaman like you to claim what is rightfully his when it was right in his palms ? |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 2:19pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
QuotaSystem:But your response is baseless considering the fact oil producing regions now were part of old eastern region hence oil blocs would have been 100% owned by easterners the same way we owned cocoa 100% Your hatred for fellow southerners is blinding your thought process. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 2:22pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
ayokellany:Your a Fulani hiding under Yoruba mans name |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by ayokellany: 2:30pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
johnserek:You are dying from mental slavery. No man can make a Yoruba a slave in Nigeria. You do not have a point with the nonsense you have been dishing out. I believe you need electric jolts to wake your brain from the traumatic slumber it went into this morning. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by huptin(m): 2:31pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
johnserek:No i am not happy! Lagos was capital of Nigeria for many years how many enemies invaded the territory? Even during the civil war Lagos was safe, my question is, why should Ibadan take what belongs to Lagos in the name of regionalism? As for Ekiti and Osun , in a true federal system a proportion of revenue generated in Lagos will be set aside from them to enable them diversify their economy and survive, but for Lagos money to go to Ibadan in whatever guise is totally wrong. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 2:34pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
ayokellany:Did you read my post at all? You think slavery is by chains and whips? Slavery is subtle till today Africa is enslaved It seems your thought process isnt high level If not if after every basic thing I have wrote all you can say is I am suffering from slave mentality then you need education and you need to travel |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 2:37pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
huptin:No matter how you twist it Money must be used to develop wherever we adopt as a capital and most likely its Ibadan and every subgroup will have equal power in parliament irrespective of population The red part indicates Western region Should does northerners claim Kwara we had better claim our thing back throgh whatever means Yoruba race will be under direct threat if we cede 1 inch of kwara or kogi to north
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| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by ArodewilliamsT: 2:52pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
A reminder.... And let me tell you that in the event of the breakup of this country, Ilorin and Offa will remain 100 % Northern Nigeria and not one inch of land will be ceded to yorubas".- junaid mohammed. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by ayokellany: 2:54pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
johnserek:You must be delusional if you think roaming the creeks of Biafra is called travelling. Everyone needs education but you my friend what you need is more of "common sense". The ability to make intelligence use of the education you have gotten. That piece of intelligence which is not common n could be found in possession of dogs while lacking in some humans. That ability to understand the fact ethnic group say Urhobo produces the largest amount of crude oil in Delta state does not mean Itshekiri Lands would not be developed by the same revenue accruing from the oil. Now apply that to Lagos VAT n NigerDelta oil in the context of the federation called Nigeria. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 3:18pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
ArodewilliamsT:That is why we will have to fight for it chikena |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 3:25pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
ayokellany:The point of messgae is not Biafra pls its about ability to develop at your own pace |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by PenSniper: 3:34pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
huangcheng:Why not counter what he said if not true rather than dodging the obvious ? |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 3:35pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
ayokellany:Mumu should there be more oil drawn from Urhobo land than others it will get the largest share thats how its done all over the world so should VAT be gotten mostly in Lagos majority of it should be for lagos Thats how New York, London and accra operates Wake up and travel |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by PenSniper: 4:18pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
ayokellany:Thank you for that apt analysis of an average ibo - they behave like people with damaged or deranged brain, period. Shedding crocodile tears, lamentations, fabrications, evading the truth, playing the victim and falsifying historical records are tendencies embedded in their veins. If Lord Lugard can be blaimed for orchestrating Nigeria's problems, Aguiyi Ironsi and his ibo inner circle compounded the woes by imposing the unitary system of government. Their intention to subjugate the north and SW was foiled by the counter coup. The genesis of coups in Nigeria was Ibo greed for power to lord it over others due to their numerical strenght in the army. While Awolowo led the SW to oppose the feudalist north, Azikiwe and his Ibo people made themselves ready pawns for the use of the north to spite Awolowo thinking the Yoruba could be cowed. With the north and east dominating the army with a very scanty western presence, Ojukwu naively expected Awolowo to lead the Yoruba into a suiicidal seccesion with no army to man the borders or fight. The resultant effect of Ojukwu's refusal to heed Awo's superior wisdom need not mentioned here again. Harold Wilson revealed that the British givernment which he represented were manipulating the north and Azikiwe against Awolowo's perceived potentials to make Nigeria an envy of Britain if allowed to rule. No wonder from the first republic to the 3rd, Azikiwe continued to zealously play the errand-boy role assigned to him by his masters upnorth in order to spite Awolowo and the SW. Always happy to jump at a ceremonial post so as to continue eating the crumbs from his masters' table. At an election stalemate, when the opportunity presented itself to him to invite Awolowo to form the government, he, against all normal and sensible logic, decided to invite Abubakar, like the obidient servant that he was. When Awolowo offered to work as finance minister while he would be president, Azikiwe, true to his betrayal type, declined but instead toed the order from his NPN lords. These are facts of history. Let haters of the Yoruba continue to hate to their own regret, we care less. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by wytecat: 4:27pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
I have said it once that SW should be getting 13% derivatives too, but our leaders are super duper mUMU |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by ba7man(m): 4:31pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
johnserek:Even when GEJ was president, he did the same thing to the southwest so why are you making it seem as if the north are the enemy? There's a certain political class that have been ripping us off and they contain all tribes to a certain percentage. They sell off their region and people for their personal gains. They are the ones that kill to be in Abuja......... they are our kinsman and they are in our midst, not on the other side. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by Nobody: 4:38pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
I smell biafra all over this thread. did the OP just say "igbo kingdom"? igbos don't build kingdoms, rather they have hamlets. just making an observation. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by PenSniper: 4:54pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
johnserek:Trash. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by pazienza(m): 4:56pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
This is thread is setting up for an interesting discussion. I will be back to contribute my one Biafran pound. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by PenSniper: 5:02pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
Op, i advise you not to deny your tribe like a coward. Stand up and be counted with your Ibo tribe. The Yoruba neither feels subjugated nor threatened. In any/every given situation, we know what to do without making a hullabaloo. I see your post as lamentations by an impostor. The target of your crookery are too clever to be hoodwinked. Don't cry for me Argentina. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 5:08pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
PenSniper:I am not disputing historical facts Azikwe was a Yoruba hater no doubt But are we going to say cause of that we should remain in a unitary system where our wealth is freted away? Igbos can be easily checked and the country is not structured in a way to favour them so they are not a current problem for now they only make noise But the country is structured to favor desert north Oil wells owned by mostly north Customs, Ports and Tax fees goes to mostly North I remember saying its a OBJ was there but did nothing about it the ISSUE is are we going to contining let historical beef block us fro demanding for development? |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 5:15pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
PenSniper:Sigh did you read my post well if your we are not subjugated -Why cant we have more local governments in Lagos -Why cant Kwara and kogi west be reintegrated -Why cant we set our educational standards AND why is it that this policies cannot be addressed maybe subjugated is a strong word but we are being ripped off our God given wealth and Talent. Look at Ghana a nation of 20 million worth 210BN IMAGINe if we yorubas have greater access to our wealth 50 million population with access to the sea Kwara too faces River Niger Just imagine a future where to build LAG-IB-JEBBA way does not require Abuja approval or funding We can be in charge of income from our ports The tourist that come to our territory pay Income to us Thats how its done in all Heterogenous nation MAN Thats how the BRITISH left it Think about it Forget about Igbos for now |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 5:18pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
ba7man:Valid point |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by AlPeter: 5:21pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
I have heard of the Kanuri Kingdom, the YORUBA (ife) Kingdom, the Benin Kingdom, The FULANIS (Sokoto) kingdom but never of a United Ibo Kingdom. From the little I know of Nigeria it is the Yorubas that have fought more for Federalism than any other tribe. Your submission is flawed in so many ways |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by 1adewoye: 5:23pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
You are an unbridled tribal bigot pretending to be Yoruba. You are also deficient in the knowledge you claim to possess. Few examples: resources from Scotland's North Sea oil goes to the coffers of the United Kingdom to be shared in budgetary allocations between England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The same goes for taxes generated as opposed to your lie. Italy is not part of Germany, so why would they share resources? The Gulf states are independent and why would they share resources when each is sovereign in its right? Do they have the same passports? Ask about multi-ethnic countries and you will understand how the centre holds the various regions together. You are a fraud! |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 5:30pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
AlPeter:I am not arguing about who has a kingdom or not my point is - Why cant we move at our own pace? -As for whether Ibo kingdom exist or not thats argument for another threat but the truth is that we Yorubas cannot be held back from greatness |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by sunsewa: 5:32pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
johnserek:Seems u read my comments yesterday on naira land,cos we are almost saying same thing,when I said Yorubas are beneficial to Nigeria than core north,oil they don't have,seaports no,lucrative airports and borders they don't have, commercial and industrial strength they don't have because of their violent nature and boko haram menace social life that encourages alcoholic companies and endorsement of our musicians is banned due lslam,musicians and alcoholic companies are all paying tax to government which they also collect their allocation from, if other southern states drives companies away through violence or impose their similar attitudes to social life, then Nigeria Will be like Afghanistan,cog of development resides in the southern parts thanks to God given resources and violent free nature of southern Nigeria,yet we are been scammed due to our disunity in the name of central government, yet my Yoruba neighbours will be showing I don't care attitudes in nairaland.we call them aboki,but they are wiser than us the whole southern Nigeria. |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 5:35pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
1adewoye:1) Why are you lying in the face of hard facts? Do you enjoy slavery or what Scotland only pays 25% to UK which is reasonable not 76% http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-33268851 England doesnt share its wealth why do you think they can build underground trains, canary wharf, London tower etc you think if majority of income was going to wales they will be where they are. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jun/11/scotland-fiscal-autonomy-north-sea-oil-tax-forecast-slashed-obr 2)Italy Germany are they not in the same economic union 3)and YES UAE shares the same passport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirati_passport Infact England, Scotlands economy are differently built and they have different football teams I AM FEMI I AM A YORUBA OR WESTERN NIGERIAN We Yorubas need to study more on heterogenous countries and how there revenus are structures assumming we Yorubas agreed to share our resources with all it would have been a different ball game but no its a FORCED agreement Please Dilute my message |
| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by vicadex07(m): 5:36pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
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| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by johnserek(op): 5:45pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
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| Re: Letter To Southern Nigerians Particularly Yoruba People by zendy: 5:48pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
QuotaSystem:[b]For how long will you Yorubas keep peddling this false story that Ironsi was the one who destroyed regionalism and introduced the unitary system of Government? Yes Ironsi promulgated the unification decree,however, that decree did not erode the essential components of regionalism. All 4 regions where still in existence when Ironsi was killed. The regions still controled their resources. Ironsi needed that decree to enable him rule as a military leader who is used to uniformity. It was Gowon who came in and abrogated the regions, created States and made them mere appendages of the Government at the centre. Let's not keep up this falsehood. To this day, the North has refused to let regionalism return because of their over dependence on the resources of others. Another reason why the North does not want regionalsm is because it will end the political stranglehold they have over Nigeria. I'm an Igbo man, I have gone past squabbling with the Hausa and Yoruba man over what is mine in Nigeria and what is not. Regionalism is no longer good enough. A full secession of all Igbos and Igboid groups under the banner of Biafra is the minimum acceptable demand. We cant keep lying to ourselves that we are one just because a "British terrorist" called Lugard came to west Africa to tell us so. We must all go and look for our individual countries and do away with this 'British created nightmare' called Nigeria which is representative of nobody. Enough is enough [/b] |
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