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jln115:
Are you fvcking kidding me? You had to believe wiki? An idi0t like yourself can edit Wikipedia when ever you feel like it!!

jln115:
Bla bla bla never once did I say YOU said the atr 42 was a asw platform, it was tweedle dee(Henry) and tweedle dum(iblawi) that said it was a asw platform.

And NO your Lynx clearly are not asw platforms!! This is a ASW Lynx:

iblawi:
Does any of these look exactly like yours, Or don't they have anything like sonar? Mumu.

iblawi:
Dumb head, I used wiki as source cos I couldn't find the other link that prove it has ASW capability. Once I get I will up load it. I don't depend on a source before making comment like you dumb southie.

EVarn:
Russia,China,Pakistan,Poland,Ukraine,Czech,Israel and Turkey(?): they all provided us with lethal hardwares ranging from armed drones and attack helicopters to assault rifles.
The US,UK and Canada provided us with intel through constant surveillance and satellite roaming,while South Africa sold us logistics.
Modest hardwares such as alpha jets,mini-drones,and some infantry gears{including communication gadgets} were procured from the US/Europe/Israel,while the rest were sourced from indigenous arm manufacturers.

jln115:
WOW!! being called a dumb head by someone who uses Wikipedia as a source!!! what ever the fvck shall I do Oh and BTW we Southies depend on sources before making comments...Why? because otherwise we run the risk of looking like dumasses just like you!

jln115:
They actually do look like ours....Why? because they are all ASW platforms, now tell me...does your lynx even remotely look the same as the pics you posted?

agaugust:
2012 to 2014 pics dude. Nigerian navy sea exercise Obaganme year 2014.

https://cimsec.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ADMalade-300x199.jpg

Nigeria received naval version AW 109 E-Power helicopter in 2012, and the ship NNS Thunder in 2011, so how did we take the photo in 1998 ?

Mumu

Nigerian navy has 6 helicopters and dozens of qualified pilots to land at sea, a feat that is too big for tiny South Africa to attempt as you have only one sea landing qualified pilot in your Southie 50 million population of dullards.

South African navy has ZERO aircraft
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iblawi:
This was what he said dumb head.

Every source is wrong when it proves you wrong. Now tell me why wiki can't be used as a source @ jln115. Mumu.

agaugust:
You just making a noise about nothing, I have always said ATR-42 is not ASW and has no sonar, I have said that since 2012, so what's your mouse about?

It's you and patches who have been telling lies that Nigerian navy Lynx ASW helicopter is a civilian version, you keep telling lies about it despite many sources including SIPRI clearly saying it's Nigerian Lynx helicopters ASW version .

You Southies are the ones telling shameless lies here, and your foolish friend @Saengine will close eyes to that and be grumbling about that he posted sources and Augustine is still arguing.

Southie fraudsters !

jln115:
I never quoted that post retaaard!! I quoted this one:



So I ask you again!! does your Lynx look like any of the Lynx's you posted? o ours for that matter?


"Now tell me why wiki can't be used as a source @ jln115. Mumu."
ARE YOU FVCKING KIDDING ME!!! are you seriously asking why you cant use Wikipedia as a source?

jln115:
Bla bla bla never once did I say YOU said the atr 42 was a asw platform, it was tweedle dee(Henry) and tweedle dum(iblawi) that said it was a asw platform.

And NO your Lynx clearly are not asw platforms!! This is a ASW Lynx:

agaugust:
2012 to 2014 pics dude. Nigerian navy sea exercise Obaganme year 2014.

https://cimsec.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ADMalade-300x199.jpg

Nigeria received naval version AW 109 E-Power helicopter in 2012, and the ship NNS Thunder in 2011, so how did we take the photo in 1998 ?

Mumu

Nigerian navy has 6 helicopters and dozens of qualified pilots to land at sea, a feat that is too big for tiny South Africa to attempt as you have only one sea landing qualified pilot in your Southie 50 million population of dullards.

South African navy has ZERO aircraft
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agaugust:
You are still asking me for sources? Your reply was to my post containing two sources. You are so shocked with the evidence that you cannot look at it twice or else you start crying bottle load of tears.

How many vessels does your tiny South African navy have?

"Between 2001 and 2008, the Nigerian Armed Forces entered into contractual agreements and/or taken delivery of the following:

FOUR Balsam-class 61m logistics ships
TWO stealth offshore patrol craft
A NUMBER British-made supply vessels
MANY DOZENS of Chinese, US and Singapore-built fast response boats, troop landing craft and gunboats in the 10-25m configs."

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/navy-modernization.htm

Yes Nigerian navy fleet is by numbers, as large as those of Russia and America, and we have a superior IPV force better than any super power in the world today.

ANOTHER 30 NEW GUNBOATS THIS YEAR 2015 : http://www.african-defense.com/?p=1903

50% of Nigerian navy fleet is almost 200 vessels of ALL SIZES.

How many vessels does the entire South African navy have ?

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agaugust:
1. Nope, you know nothing about naval operations, a ship at harbour, docked at seaport and not moving, anchored and tied down to the land port facilities is NOT AT SEA, a helicopter landing on it is NOT LANDING AT SEA, it's landing at harbour, you dummy

2. The Lynx blades can spin for photo demo or static simulation, it's common, or just warming the engine.

3. You proved with photo that South African helicopters CANNOT land on a moving ship at sea.

4. I have posted 6 different photos of Nigerian navy helicopters landing at sea, we have 6 such helicopters. You still asking? Dullard.

South African air force can only land 1 helicopter at sea, Nigeria can do 6 times that number......and South African navy does NOT even have one single helicopter talk less of pilot.....obsolete navy with ZERO fleet air arm

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agaugust:
South Africa has ONLY 13 anti-ship missiles, so how will you use it to sink 200 vessels? Dullard

Nigerian navy has NNS Aradu with missiles and she is going for refit this year in Lagos shipyard, officially confirmed.

Nigeria has NNS Centenary with anti-missile decoys so we can waste all your Soweto missiles and it becomes a gun battle, Nigeria has longer range ship guns and we will sink Mandela's navy in 10 minutes
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agaugust:
You don't know what you are posting dude !

That your photo is Super Lynx ASW, the Nigerian version is an older model called Lynx Mk.89 ASW, different models different names.

You think those two big round discs outside the helicopter nose is a sonar? No, it's a radar and FLIR

For SAAF super lynx, the radar is outside, but for NN Lynx Mk.89 the radar is inside the nose cone hidden, and the sonar is inside the cabin hidden behind closed doors.

SIPRI says the Nigerian Lynx is Anti-Submarine Warfare and that settles it, your foolish ignorant and rettaaaarded opinion does not matter, a born fool will always be a born fool, white man with Zulu brain !


Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database


Supplier/ Year
recipient (R) Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


United Kingdom
R: Nigeria
3 Lynx ASW helicopter 1981 1985 3 $20 m deal; Lynx Mk-89 version


Italy
R: Nigeria
18 A244 324mm ASW torpedo (1980) 1982-1984 (18) A244S Torpedo version for Lynx ASW helicopters and probably for 1 MEKO-360 (Aradu) frigate


If I am the one arguing, your foolish Southie pas @Saengine will say I am spoiling this thread, now you are making a clearly foolish and deliberately false claim and all your Southies friends turn a blind eye to it as you mess up this forum with lies and false tales.


See the photo of Lynx anti-submarine helicopter below, does it look like the South African version you posted ? Mumu !
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agaugust:
You don't know what you are posting dude !

That your photo is Super Lynx ASW, the Nigerian version is an older model called Lynx Mk.89 ASW, different models different names.

You think those two big round discs outside the helicopter nose is a sonar? No, it's a radar and FLIR

For SAAF super lynx, the radar is outside, but for NN Lynx Mk.89 the radar is inside the nose cone hidden, and the sonar is inside the cabin hidden behind closed doors.

SIPRI says the Nigerian Lynx is Anti-Submarine Warfare and that settles it, your foolish ignorant and rettaaaarded opinion does not matter, a born fool will always be a born fool, white man with Zulu brain !


Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database


Supplier/ Year
recipient (R) Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


United Kingdom
R: Nigeria
3 Lynx ASW helicopter 1981 1985 3 $20 m deal; Lynx Mk-89 version


Italy
R: Nigeria
18 A244 324mm ASW torpedo (1980) 1982-1984 (18) A244S Torpedo version for Lynx ASW helicopters and probably for 1 MEKO-360 (Aradu) frigate


If I am the one arguing, your foolish Southie pas @Saengine will say I am spoiling this thread, now you are making a clearly foolish and deliberately false claim and all your Southies friends turn a blind eye to it as you mess up this forum with lies and false tales.


See the photo of Lynx anti-submarine helicopter below, does it look like the South African version you posted ? Mumu !
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iblawi:
See this guy o? Am I doing an academic research here? Or are you saying information on Wikipedia are completely useless? Yes many people contribute to it but very few are Zulus. So to some degree I believe the information it contains.

The people that made the update must have some information just like I said I read it from another source too.

Secondly, I said Nigerian military customise their equipments base on their needs and you won't get the full details online unlike you Zulus that buy what you don't need and can't even operate. we see pics of them everywhere not knowing you don't have pilots and sailors.
Dondi.

shizzy7:
Take a long stroll down instagram,your news24,any forum that has anything Nig-S.a,,you will find just few Nigerians replying even On NL you know the type of Monikers that reply you..
We have a foreign affairs section and you can't except us not to talk about s.a in any matter that has connection with Nigeria whether companies, people,sports anything whatsoever. its inevitable


As henry said Go back to your military related topics, I don't know anything about it except Nigeria Is Winning The War Against Boko Are Ram bye.

jln115:
Tell me mate what did NAF customize on their ATR 42? What did you guys customize on your F-7? T72s? Hind? Puma? Cobras? REVAs? Bofors? Alphas? A109s? ect ect ect ect ect ect

Secondly EVERYBODY knows Wikipedia is the most unreliable piece of sh1t source there is!!

"we see pics of them everywhere not knowing you don't have pilots and sailors":

iblawi:
I told you pics and detailed info about our equipment are difficult to get.

But the I know our ASW 109 used to destroy boko haram logistics recently and a weaponise super puma of the air force. Some alpha jets and even the some hinds were upgraded, MI 17,gazelle helicopters all tailored to meet their needs in the NE.



Secondly everybody knows wiki is not reliable source of information for research work but not for argument like this on NL.

Old pics of your jets when you had just nine pilots but now you have just six who can fly them. You don't have combat qualified pilots.

iblawi:
South Africa has only 6 pilot for Gripen not 9. They are even considering selling them.



Four months after admitting that 12 of its 26 Gripen jet fighters had been placed in storage because they were too expensive to operate and there were not enough qualified pilots to fly them, South African officials admitted that the maintenance contracts for all the Gripens had expired in April. That made long term use of the Gripens dangerous. This contract was with a reliable, and expensive, South African firm (Denel). The maintenance contracts pay for ongoing support for the aircraft to include updates and warnings on problems other users have encountered as well as access to manufacturer engineers and maintenance experts. Aircraft become more dangerous to operate (if they operate at all) without regular maintenance and these maintenance contracts are a critical part of that. Some South African politicians are now calling for the Gripens to be sold, as there is not likely to be sufficient money to operate them and retain qualified pilots.

Currently only about half of the remaining 14 Gripens are flyable and there are only six qualified Gripen pilots. Corruption, shrinking defense budgets, and political pressure to find more black combat pilots and technical personnel has led to the South African Air Force having fewer operational aircraft. All this has been going on for over a decade.

For example, back in 2009, the South African Air Force stopped automatically releasing data on how many hours combat pilots flew for training. When the numbers were finally obtained, it was discovered that in 2008, fighter pilots were in the air for 325 hours (less than two hours a month per pilot). In contrast, pilots on VIP flights (carrying politicians and government officials) were up there 1,932 hours. There are about fifty transports and 80 helicopters in the air force at the time, and that number has continued to shrink.


https://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/South-Africa-Loses-Use-Of-Its-new-Gripens-8-18-2013.asp



I hope this source is reliable.
Nigerian airforce is far better than your SAAF.

jln115:
Old and outdated source!!

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821

Some of the South African Air Force’s fleet of 26 Saab Gripen fighter jets will not be placed in storage but will rather be flown on a rotational basis, according to an Air Force official. Earlier this year it was reported that 12 Gripens had been placed in storage.

18 Gripen aircrew (navigators and pilots) have been trained up to operational status to date and 52 Hawk aircrew have been trained so far.

thus 26 Gripens in total - 12 Gripens in storage= 14 operational thus = 14 pilots!! in 2013

Henry120:
18 Gripen air crew

9 Pilots

9 Navigators

0 combat qualified pilots.

= full blown soweto class pathetic!

jln115:
14 Gripens operational thus 14 pilots or do the other Gripens fly themselves?

MduZA:
thanx the advice],I know nothing about military matters therefore am exiting this thread with peace..however I will always be here for fools like Lezz..i dont create topics,I only comment on comments made by your compatriots..am glad to hear that you are winning the war against BH,surely south African mercenaries left a good legacy.."shelele"

MduZA:
thanx for the advice,I know nothing about military matters therefore am exiting this thread with peace...however I will always be here for fools like Lezz..i dont create topics,I only comment on comments made by your compatriots..am glad to hear that you are winning the war against BH,surely south African mercenaries left a good legacy.."shelele"

jln115:
Dude!!! Do think im going to believe you, just because you told me so? Can you prove that your hind were upgraded?...No you cant!! Can you prove that you upgraded your alpha jets?...No you cant.

Secondly Wikipedia shouldn't be used in any circumstance when trying to debate an argument.

And strapping rocket pods onto your puma and gazelle doesn't make them "customized" we can do that to, with our Oryx.


Lastly do you have any logic and common sense? how can we have 9 pilots then all of a sudden 6 according to you? OH and BTW we had 14 Gripen pilots in 2013!! sources have been provided multiple times.

iblawi:
Just a few but I wonder why I have to prove everything to Zulus.

http://www..net/2015/07/photos-nigerian-air-force-upgrades-as.html?m=1

https://beegeagle./2015/03/26/deliveries-of-ex-air-usa-pgm-enabled-alpha-jet-aircraft-to-the-nigerian-air-force-underway/

https://beegeagle./tag/alpha-jet/

You have only 6 Gripen pilots

Henry120:
You have 26 Gripen jets. Do the rest fly themselves?

jln115:
Uhm no....12 were in rotation.

Henry120:
You have 26 Gripen jets. Do the rest fly themselves?

DictatorZAR:
How many obsolete F-7 pilots again
I guess 3 in total should be correct for the ancient relic.