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midolian:
Great job man. Always loving your analysis.

hinwazaka:
Do you even understand anything the OP wrote in this flimflam piece. The OP was simply jabbering about things he knows nothing about. Take for example the section that dealth with the JP Morgan' issue. The real concurrent reason for carrying out their threat was the poor feeders they were getting from this government.A directive they had issued out since January was not returned with a reply or a whiff of action. And you and the OP are here absolving the government of blame and claiming the action taken by the firm won't affect us. Don't worry, by the time you start eating breakfast at night your eyes will receive sight

Rawani:
It is called sheer incompetence, the exit of their chief wailer is a strong wind that has exposed the rump of the noisy chicken.

PassingShot:
[b]This thread is of course a response to this https://www.nairaland.com/2590889/see-what-happening-nigerias-economy

For us to understand and appreciate what the new government has done or not done for the country, it’s very important to revisit the type of economy it inherited from the last regime as enumerated below:

1. The Nigerian economy operates a budget which is heavily skewed in favour of recurrent expenditure (about 90%) against capital expenses (about 10%) as represented by 2015 budget here http://www.punchng.com/news/jonathan-signs-n4-425tn-2015-budget/

Implication of this is that there will be no real development in the core areas that sustain and improve economic development.

2. Nigerian economy is largely dependent on crude export. Even the crude price has fallen below the benchmark price ($53 per barrel) on which the 2015 budget was based. Crude now sells at around $47 per barrel.

3. As at April 2015, the Federal Government of Nigeria had borrowed $4.4bn to pay salaries of its workers for March and April 2015. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3070070/Nigeria-borrows-pay-salaries-cash-crunch-worsening.html

4. GEJ met the reserve at $47.7bn in 2010 but still managed to reduce it to $29.6bn despite that crude sold for an average of $100 per barrel (peaked at about $140/barrel). The country’s FR plays a huge role in giving confidence to foreign investors in Nigeria’s economy. The higher the value the higher the confidence in the economy and vice versa.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3070070/Nigeria-borrows-pay-salaries-cash-crunch-worsening.html[/b]

I could go on and on but these will suffice for now.
Now, let’s see OcheJoseph ‘s points one after the other:


Yes, Nigeria will be delisted from Bond Index of JP Morgan. However, it amounts to crass ignorance for any sane analyst to want to blame the government of the day. JP Morgan started the process of reviewing Nigeria’s continued participation in its bond index in January of this year given the fact that we had depleted our FR to an abysmal level while our currency continued to lose values.

For Nigeria to continue to participate in the BI, the conditions given by JP Morgan are very detrimental to our economy. Nigeria will have to devalue the Naira and possibly will exchange for about N350 to a dollar. This will drive up inflation which means cost of imports and even local goods will go up. Cost of doing business will shoot up and productivity will expectedly drop which will eventually lead to massive retrenchment by the companies.

So, should Nigeria have chosen to remain or accepted to be delisted? I wait for your answer.



What do we expect when the FG as at May 29 had not released a kobo towards capital development? The capital expenditure in the 2015 budget is paltry 10% of about N4.5tn and NOTHING had been released as at the exit of the last govt. So what miracle do we expect?




This is too cheap and very misleading. Job losses are a constant part of any economy and if it’s not as a result of a government’s policy or not on an industry-wide scale, you cannot put the blame on the government. Even in the link you provided, it was clearly stated that the layoff was not for any reason of threat or loss as quoted

“One thing that is clear is that Zenith Bank is not under any threat,” the source, who spoke with our reporter on condition of anonymity. “With the current crisis in the banking industry in the country, it is incumbent on any bank that wants to growth to bend backwards to re-strategize and restructure its operations to expand and grow.

Is the OP insinuating that there were no job losses during Jonathan’s regime? Or that every job loss was due to his mismanagement of the economy?




At some point during GEJ’s era, the naira exchanged at above N235 to a dollar. That it trades at N220 currently represents an overall gain from N235/N240. The CBN is on a mission to make it difficult if not impossible, for stolen dollars from our reserves to be easily exchanged or transferred abroad. Besides, the fact is that crude price has dropped and our over dependence on imported goods among others have naturally put pressure on the naira.


The headline reads “Nigerian economy slows in Q2” and not “Nigerian Economy Slumps”, Both are not same and don’t mean same thing.

The quarter 2 referred to represents April, May and June of 2015 and GEJ was in charge in April and May. Does it then make any sense to blame a presidency which was in charge of one month out of three months for the slow down in the growth?

Again, the fact is that the economy would have collapsed completely had GEJ managed to win the last election. The economy was already on a downward slide by the time we voted him out. So, for anyone to attempt to put economic woes that we may currently be experiencing on PMB/VPYO smacks of irresponsible partisanship.



What is the news here? Must Nigeria do business with China or any other country for that matter?
Nigeria will do business with anyone whose policy and business terms and conditions favour her. This is no rocket science.





The loss is as a result of JP Morgan’s delisting and it was definitely expected following the announcement. The loss is not Nigeria’s loss but investors. When investors have gained in the past, was the gain given or shared with the country?

As I said earlier, CBN/DMO/MOF and Nigeria as a whole has taken the right decision to stand up to JP Morgan’s manipulative tendencies. We cannot because of foreign or even local investors accept conditions that could bring the country to its knees.


If anyone needs to use their brain, it’s you and your co-travellers.

You lots preferred we continue with a failed president/government. You wanted us to continue with a regime that could not manage surplus and bounty harvest in times of scarcity. You wanted us to continue with a government which recognized stealing as the norm. You wanted us to continue with a government of wastes; a government that placed militants above law abiding citizens; a government that couldn’t guarantee security such that a portion of the country was in control of some rag tag terrorists.

Buhari ison a mission to stop the bleeding the economy was going through. He is on a mission to prevent a very bad situation from getting worse. He is on a mission to restore our lost glory, sanity, accountability and pride where STEALING WILL BE SEEN AS CORRUPTION.

May God continue to guide President Buhari & VP Osinbajo aright
May Nigerians prosper better under his selfless leadership

CC: Lalasticlala Seun Obinoscopy

omenka:
PassingShot just redefined AWESOME here.

This piece is equivalent to dropping a nuclear bomb in the middle of China- you see decapitated bodies flying in all directions- in this case, those of Wailers as is evident from their responses.

Apparently they simply can't counter a single point raised here, rather they go after the Op himself, throwing feeble jabs that can only do as much harm as a teething toddler's bite would to the skin of a Rhino.






Ps: PassingShot, you might wanna take another look at the figure quoted in Line 3, item 3 (paragraph 6). Think that figure should be in Naira.

Again, excellent analysis.



Lalasticlala, was it you I saw standing close to Obama on CNN??

hinwazaka:
Do you even understand anything the OP wrote in this flimflam piece. The OP was simply jabbering about things he knows nothing about. Take for example the section that dealth with the JP Morgan' issue. The real concurrent reason for carrying out their threat was the poor feeders they were getting from this government.A directive they had issued out since January was not returned with a reply or a whiff of action. And you and the OP are here absolving the government of blame and claiming the action taken by the firm won't affect us.

Don't worry, by the time you start eating breakfast at night your eyes will receive sight

SeverusSnape:
The paid Goon again.

Always on time to defend the Presidiot, He's as predictable as a pig within stone throw from a pile of faeces.

@ topic, trash as usual. Trillions of Naira have been lost by investors and this one is here wanking. Buhari as usual has no idea what's going on, That is why we need to see his genuine WASC result, I'm sure he got Z9 not even F9.

Segadem:
and pls who is the chief wailer?

SeverusSnape:
The paid Goon again.

Always on time to defend the Presidiot, He's as predictable as a pig within stone throw from a pile of faeces.

@ topic, trash as usual. Trillions of Naira have been lost by investors and this one is here wanking. Buhari as usual has no idea what's going on, That is why we need to see his genuine WASC result, I'm sure he got Z9 not even F9.

Kastonkastroll:
The Nigerians that booted Jonathan out or which Nigerians again? The worst of this new gov't will be far more better than the 16 wanted years of PDP, and every Nigerian will attest to that.

You are still dreaming in Utopia land, PDP is gone and gone forever.

SeverusSnape:
The paid Goon again.

Always on time to defend the Presidiot, He's as predictable as a pig within stone throw from a pile of faeces.

@ topic, trash as usual. Trillions of Naira have been lost by investors and this one is here wanking. Buhari as usual has no idea what's going on, That is why we need to see his genuine WASC result, I'm sure he got Z9 not even F9.

Rawani:
You should have understood the OP's point yourself before encumbering yourself with the comprehension of others. The OP never said the delisting would not affect us, the point is that acquiescing to their demands is a higher price to pay compared to the initial effects of their decision.

themilanway:
The irony of Jonathan's economy misrule and mismanagement,is that we are all bearing the brunt.

His ass lickers inclusive.

PassingShot:
Wailers and common sense = Words and opposite

PassingShot:
[b]This thread is of course a response to this https://www.nairaland.com/2590889/see-what-happening-nigerias-economy

For us to understand and appreciate what the new government has done or not done for the country, it’s very important to revisit the type of economy it inherited from the last regime as enumerated below:

1. The Nigerian economy operates a budget which is heavily skewed in favour of recurrent expenditure (about 90%) against capital expenses (about 10%) as represented by 2015 budget here http://www.punchng.com/news/jonathan-signs-n4-425tn-2015-budget/

Implication of this is that there will be no real development in the core areas that sustain and improve economic development.

2. Nigerian economy is largely dependent on crude export. Even the crude price has fallen below the benchmark price ($53 per barrel) on which the 2015 budget was based. Crude now sells at around $47 per barrel.

3. As at April 2015, the Federal Government of Nigeria had borrowed $4.4bn to pay salaries of its workers for March and April 2015. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3070070/Nigeria-borrows-pay-salaries-cash-crunch-worsening.html

4. GEJ met the reserve at $47.7bn in 2010 but still managed to reduce it to $29.6bn despite that crude sold for an average of $100 per barrel (peaked at about $140/barrel). The country’s FR plays a huge role in giving confidence to foreign investors in Nigeria’s economy. The higher the value the higher the confidence in the economy and vice versa.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3070070/Nigeria-borrows-pay-salaries-cash-crunch-worsening.html[/b]

I could go on and on but these will suffice for now.
Now, let’s see OcheJoseph ‘s points one after the other:


Yes, Nigeria will be delisted from Bond Index of JP Morgan. However, it amounts to crass ignorance for any sane analyst to want to blame the government of the day. JP Morgan started the process of reviewing Nigeria’s continued participation in its bond index in January of this year given the fact that we had depleted our FR to an abysmal level while our currency continued to lose values.

For Nigeria to continue to participate in the BI, the conditions given by JP Morgan are very detrimental to our economy. Nigeria will have to devalue the Naira and possibly will exchange for about N350 to a dollar. This will drive up inflation which means cost of imports and even local goods will go up. Cost of doing business will shoot up and productivity will expectedly drop which will eventually lead to massive retrenchment by the companies.

So, should Nigeria have chosen to remain or accepted to be delisted? I wait for your answer.



What do we expect when the FG as at May 29 had not released a kobo towards capital development? The capital expenditure in the 2015 budget is paltry 10% of about N4.5tn and NOTHING had been released as at the exit of the last govt. So what miracle do we expect?




This is too cheap and very misleading. Job losses are a constant part of any economy and if it’s not as a result of a government’s policy or not on an industry-wide scale, you cannot put the blame on the government. Even in the link you provided, it was clearly stated that the layoff was not for any reason of threat or loss as quoted

“One thing that is clear is that Zenith Bank is not under any threat,” the source, who spoke with our reporter on condition of anonymity. “With the current crisis in the banking industry in the country, it is incumbent on any bank that wants to growth to bend backwards to re-strategize and restructure its operations to expand and grow.

Is the OP insinuating that there were no job losses during Jonathan’s regime? Or that every job loss was due to his mismanagement of the economy?




At some point during GEJ’s era, the naira exchanged at above N235 to a dollar. That it trades at N220 currently represents an overall gain from N235/N240. The CBN is on a mission to make it difficult if not impossible, for stolen dollars from our reserves to be easily exchanged or transferred abroad. Besides, the fact is that crude price has dropped and our over dependence on imported goods among others have naturally put pressure on the naira.


The headline reads “Nigerian economy slows in Q2” and not “Nigerian Economy Slumps”, Both are not same and don’t mean same thing.

The quarter 2 referred to represents April, May and June of 2015 and GEJ was in charge in April and May. Does it then make any sense to blame a presidency which was in charge of one month out of three months for the slow down in the growth?

Again, the fact is that the economy would have collapsed completely had GEJ managed to win the last election. The economy was already on a downward slide by the time we voted him out. So, for anyone to attempt to put economic woes that we may currently be experiencing on PMB/VPYO smacks of irresponsible partisanship.



What is the news here? Must Nigeria do business with China or any other country for that matter?
Nigeria will do business with anyone whose policy and business terms and conditions favour her. This is no rocket science.





The loss is as a result of JP Morgan’s delisting and it was definitely expected following the announcement. The loss is not Nigeria’s loss but investors. When investors have gained in the past, was the gain given or shared with the country?

As I said earlier, CBN/DMO/MOF and Nigeria as a whole has taken the right decision to stand up to JP Morgan’s manipulative tendencies. We cannot because of foreign or even local investors accept conditions that could bring the country to its knees.


If anyone needs to use their brain, it’s you and your co-travellers.

You lots preferred we continue with a failed president/government. You wanted us to continue with a regime that could not manage surplus and bounty harvest in times of scarcity. You wanted us to continue with a government which recognized stealing as the norm. You wanted us to continue with a government of wastes; a government that placed militants above law abiding citizens; a government that couldn’t guarantee security such that a portion of the country was in control of some rag tag terrorists.

Buhari ison a mission to stop the bleeding the economy was going through. He is on a mission to prevent a very bad situation from getting worse. He is on a mission to restore our lost glory, sanity, accountability and pride where STEALING WILL BE SEEN AS CORRUPTION.

May God continue to guide President Buhari & VP Osinbajo aright
May Nigerians prosper better under his selfless leadership

CC: Lalasticlala Seun Obinoscopy

freedom96:
I think if people like you,ecoterrors and the rest can choose to be stupeed and unintelligent without being paid,then it would be more reasonable for people like passingshot to choose to defend the truth without being paid,cos naturally people are honest and upright.Just because u sell ur conscience for money doesn't mean some one needs money to defend the truth.


fool...why don't u try bringing up ur analysis?The day this dunderhead,temitemi1,mogidi or ecoterrors bring up an intelligent analysis,i shall deactivate my account with no hesitation.I dare all of u....you are just a cheap slave

xamuelotu:

SeverusSnape:
The paid Goon again.

Always on time to defend the Presidiot, He's as predictable as a pig within stone throw from a pile of faeces.

@ topic, trash as usual. Trillions of Naira have been lost by investors and this one is here wanking. Buhari as usual has no idea what's going on, That is why we need to see his genuine WASC result, I'm sure he got Z9 not even F9.

drss:
all this amala economist no get job at all. how will this write up change the fact that zoogeria lost $6 billion, 60,000 construction job lost, 1200 banking jobs lost, food prices rising rapidly in d last 4 months due to buari's olodoness and dullardness. no fertilizers for farmers again.

SSpeter:
You be fool...BIG fool...and your level of idiocy is legendary...clown 100dys is enough to give you a start...All these idiots gan where them dey vomit una from? Lemme tell u something clown even if you recover all the looted money and the economy is in shambles the money will be worthless.......

Rawani:
It was clearly obvious the "analyst" didn't understand the contents of the headlines he presented in his piece. How can any sane mind blame PMB for our Q2 economic performance? Just plain old cluelessness from the eternal wailers.

Kudos P/Shot.

SeverusSnape:
The paid Goon again.

Always on time to defend the Presidiot, He's as predictable as a pig within stone throw from a pile of faeces.

@ topic, trash as usual. Trillions of Naira have been lost by investors and this one is here wanking. Buhari as usual has no idea what's going on, That is why we need to see his genuine WASC result, I'm sure he got Z9 not even F9.