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agaugust:
You train the British to fly aircraft that Britain sold to you ? Prove it.
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Where did I say we trained British pilots?

agaugust:
How do you think I got all the data and information about specs, dates, and numbers of weapons transfer?

How do you think I know SAAF imported only 25 Iris-T missiles and SAN has only 17 Exocets ?

How do you think I post SIPRI information of all types and countries on this forum since 2012 ?

Dunce you are....full time mumu from birth

That's a source, SIPRI website link, click on it and go to arms transfer register, select country , supplier and receiver of arms.

Then select years of arms sales.

Fool.....dullard white boy with Zulu brain does not even know how to access information from international arms sales log

You are a disgrace to the nation of South Africa.....dull headed people, second dullest brains in the world according to WEF report
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The small number of the IRIS-T SRAAM is due to the fact that a missile was needed for the world security and the A-Darter was still unavailable.

How many Sub Saharan air forces have such missiles? Zero!!!!!!

MikeCZAR:
The small number of the IRIS-T SRAAM is due to the fact that a missile was needed for the world security and the A-Darter was still unavailable.

How many Sub Saharan air forces have such missiles? Zero!!!!!!

Sub-Saharan countries like tiny Eritrea have BVR missiles with about 80 km range, they will wipe out SAAF.

Uganda has anti-radiation missiles, does SAAF have it? No.

Other Sub Saharan air forces have many aircraft that South Africa can only dream of like Alice in wonderland.

Your Southie airforce is nothing but plenty of painted aircraft colours and dozens of dullard pilots who have to be transported to Cuba to improve their dull heads with Cuban training, I said it many times on this forum that Cuban air force of teenage pilots defeated old men pilots of South African air force in the bush war, that's why your SAAF of today has retured to learn the trade form it's Cuban masters.

Why did you not ask Col. Eben Barlow to train your pilots? You said his boys fly NAF aircraft against Boko Haram, so why is South Africa running to Cuba to save your collapsed air force?

jln115:
Where did I say we trained British pilots?

We say Cuba is training SAAF, you reply that SA trains British military, why did you not specify the training with sources to prove it so we can compare it to what Cuba is doing to rescue South African air force from total collapse?

jln115:
Hey fvcktard!! the onus is not on me to provide the correct link. Post a link that clearly stats Nigeria operates ASW lynx's!!

Olodo

Confess that you cannot use weblink to open SIPRI arms database and extract information.....dullard whitey with zulu brain
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jln115:
Yes teaching us skills that we don't have, just like we taught the US, Netherland, British, Nigeria ect ect skills they don't have, its what professional militaries do, oh and BTW SAAF trains The Royal Air Force of Oman as well!

Oman ? You train dullard Arabs? Yes, I see why, it's because the dullest bottom brain of the world is Yemen, and they are close to Oman, they live in the same Arabian desert as brothers.....that's why South Africa is ranked second dullest in the world and Arab Yemen is the dullest one step duller than you, so you can train them o !

Mumu Southie....he cannot open SIPRI database, retaaaaarrrded like Oman and Yemen pilots
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jln115:
Hey fvcktard!! the onus is not on me to provide the correct link. Post a link that clearly stats Nigeria operates ASW lynx's!!

Let me help you South African dullard, I have posted 3 different sources already, lets me add number 4 web link source for a fool who desperately needs Nigerian education....

"The Lynx Mk-89 was operated by a crew of two. The NN's were essentially an Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) weapons platform capable of deploying two self homing torpedoes (Aspide 244 Torpedoes) which were manufatured in Italy. The Lynx are designed to be operated from Frigates "


https://books.google.ca/books?id=hLiQBQAAQBAJ&pg=PT38&lpg=PT38&dq=Lynx+Mk-89&source=bl&ots=PJUd4j3jCM&sig=pQdKjrSs-XUdvNgnItCa4LNDuT4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFoQ6AEwC2oVChMIquGK3-bvxwIV1zGICh0-jg8Q#v=onepage&q=Lynx%20Mk-89&f=false

You are a born foooooool
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MikeCZAR:
What are decoys designed to do?

The seduce or fool the incoming missile's seeker.

here's the twist with late seeker activation it means you might deploy your decoys while the missile is still approaching a point or area where it will activate its seeker and lock on.

Sea skimming missiles are difficult to detect due the fact they fly below the radar cone coverage of targets they are attacking.

In terms of combat capability the SA navy tactical fleet can reduce any navy in sub Saharan Africa to the button of the sea.

LOL ....... With your Frigates with obsolete defective combat suite....... LOL

How are you going to manage this.

agaugust:
Sub-Saharan countries like tiny Eritrea have BVR missiles with about 80 km range, they will wipe out SAAF.

Uganda has anti-radiation missiles, does SAAF have it? No.

Other Sub Saharan air forces have many aircraft that South Africa can only dream of like Alice in wonderland.

Your Southie airforce is nothing but plenty of painted aircraft colours and dozens of dullard pilots who have to be transported to Cuba to improve their dull heads with Cuban training, I said it many times on this forum that Cuban air force of teenage pilots defeated old men pilots of South African air force in the bush war, that's why your SAAF of today has retured to learn the trade form it's Cuban masters.

Why did you not ask Col. Eben Barlow to train your pilots? You said his boys fly NAF aircraft against Boko Haram, so why is South Africa running to Cuba to save your collapsed air force?

Limited missile knowledge demonstrated again.

SAAF fighter pilots are among if not the best in sub Saharan Africa.

That Cuban training is not a operational requirement but a political decision they'll be train again when they come home in SAAF procedures.

Nigerians worship a South African trained former officer.

Henry120:
LOL ....... With your Frigates with obsolete defective combat suite....... LOL

How are you going to manage this.

Nothing here.

Assumptions again.

What other warships use the same combat suite?

Tested against targets in exercises world perfectly fine.

On the other hand in its existence your has never fired a missile.

agaugust:
Let me help you South African dullard, I have posted 3 different sources already, lets me add number 4 web link source for a fool who desperately needs Nigerian education....

"The Lynx Mk-89 was operated by a crew of two. The NN's were essentially an Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) weapons platform capable of deploying two self homing torpedoes (Aspide 244 Torpedoes) which were manufatured in Italy. The Lynx are designed to be operated from Frigates "


https://books.google.ca/books?id=hLiQBQAAQBAJ&pg=PT38&lpg=PT38&dq=Lynx+Mk-89&source=bl&ots=PJUd4j3jCM&sig=pQdKjrSs-XUdvNgnItCa4LNDuT4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFoQ6AEwC2oVChMIquGK3-bvxwIV1zGICh0-jg8Q#v=onepage&q=Lynx%20Mk-89&f=false

You are a born foooooool
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And the Canberra bombers were nuclear capable.

agaugust:
Oman ? You train dullard Arabs? Yes, I see why, it's because the dullest bottom brain of the world is Yemen, and they are close to Oman, they live in the same Arabian desert as brothers.....that's why South Africa is ranked second dullest in the world and Arab Yemen is the dullest one step duller than you, so you can train them o !

Mumu Southie....he cannot open SIPRI database, retaaaaarrrded like Oman and Yemen pilots
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Actually judging by Nairaland Nigerians are the dullest Nation in the World!

agaugust:
Let me help you South African dullard, I have posted 3 different sources already, lets me add number 4 web link source for a fool who desperately needs Nigerian education....

"The Lynx Mk-89 was operated by a crew of two. The NN's were essentially an Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) weapons platform capable of deploying two self homing torpedoes (Aspide 244 Torpedoes) which were manufatured in Italy. The Lynx are designed to be operated from Frigates "


https://books.google.ca/books?id=hLiQBQAAQBAJ&pg=PT38&lpg=PT38&dq=Lynx+Mk-89&source=bl&ots=PJUd4j3jCM&sig=pQdKjrSs-XUdvNgnItCa4LNDuT4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFoQ6AEwC2oVChMIquGK3-bvxwIV1zGICh0-jg8Q#v=onepage&q=Lynx%20Mk-89&f=false

You are a born foooooool
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Wow!! Was that so difficult? anyway to bad you don't operate them any more!!

jln115:
Actually judging by Nairaland Nigerians are the dullest Nation in the World!

SERIOUSLY judging by Nairaland South African are the dullest human being on earth why is because you judge by only what you think and not what you know. Most of you arguments on this thread have been based on what you think about others and not what you know.

How will you even ask us to provide prove that what you think about us is wrong.

You should prove that our Lynx have no sonar.
Prove that we don't have enough pilots like your dead airforce.
Prove that no country have BVR missile in sub Sahara Africa
Prove that Nigeria only have 3 F-7.
Prove that Nigeria have only 75 vessels. Etc
Prove all your claims.

agaugust:
My two sources have already counted hundreds, no single source will list 400 vessels on one page.

= 75 major vessels already confirmed by ship names NNS series of ships

= My source adds several new British boats

= Also adds dozens of Singaporean and Chinese gunboats, river boats, and landing crafts

= Then adds 30 new gunboats that arrived a few months ago brand new

The above already counts about 200 vessels conservatively.

The global security list does not include Hollands supply of 60 X-18 Combat stealth catamarans, 6 K-13 fast boats, that is another 66 boats making 266, then add this list where Australia alone supplied Nigerian navy 150 units of new gunboats :

CONFIRMED DELIVERIES OF OVER 200 RIVER GUNBOATS LANDING CRAFT TO THE NIGERIAN ARMED FORCES

PREAMBLE: This report focuses ONLY on the CONTRACT won by SINGAPORE’s SUNCRAFT GROUP for which the actual construction was outsourced to the AUSTRALIA’s STRATEGIC MARINE GROUP’s SHIPYARDS with shipyards in Australia, Vietnam and Mexico.

PROOF: WEBLINK TO BE VIEWED

http://www.strategicmarine.com/media/19 … ements.pdf

*PROJECT DATE: 2008-2009

YARD BUILT: VIETNAM
QUANTITY: 4 (FOUR) UNITS
DESCRIPTION: 20-METRE LANDING CRAFT
VESSEL NAME:
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA

*PROJECT DATE: 2008-9
YARD BUILT: AUSTRALIA
QUANTITY: 15 (FIFTEEN) UNITS

DESCRIPTION: 16-METRE PATROL VESSELS
VESSEL NAME:
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA
*PROJECT DATE: 2008-9
YARD BUILT: VIETNAM
QUANTITY: 40 (FORTY UNITS)

DESCRIPTION: 12-METRE PATROL VESSELS
VESSEL NAME:
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA
*PROJECT DATE: 2008
YARD BUILT: AUSTRALIA
QUANTITY: 4 (FOUR) UNITS

DESCRIPTION: 17-METRE PATROL VESSELS
VESSEL NAME: MANTA
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA

Note that with the delivery of THREE more MANTA boats to the Nigerian Navy in May 2011, the Nigerian Navy are now estimated to field about 15 units of Manta ASD Littoral Interceptor.

*PROJECT DATE: 2005-8
YARD BUILT: AUSTRALIA
QUANTITY: 150 (ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY)

DESCRIPTION: 10-METRE LANDING/PATROL CRAFT
VESSEL NAME: SCORPION MK.II
CLIENT: SUNCRAFT INTERNATIONAL
COUNTRY: NIGERIA




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How many vessels does the TINY South African navy have ?[/size]
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4 Frigates
3 subs

Nigeria has ZERO operational Frigates

AND

ZERO subs

You think bragging about a fleet of tiny speed boats is somehow impressive?

Clown

agaugust:
Post citation that your old version Exocet can beat our modern HP-J 14 decoys, it`s up to you to prove it`s effectiveness as a decoy since you are the one challenging it, show us proof that HP-J 14 is not effective.

No.

I have said nothing

You said that your decoys will defeat them - prove it.

Be a man and stand by what you say

agaugust:
[s]Different ASW helicopters have different hardware construction and Lynx has over ten different versions all over the world varying from country to country you fool !

Post you a link, yes I did, SIPRI org databases http://www.sipri.org/databases Says Nigerian lynx is AWS and that makes you a born fool.

Next, Super Lynx sonar is NOT in the nose, the sonar is a long oblong tube, and you cannot put that inside a radar you dummy, nobody puts long fat iron tubes inside a circular shaped radar, your dull transplanted zulu brain does not know what mathematically symmetrical shapes mean....fool !

See photo of what sonar looks like...they are placed in the middile of helicopters not their nose, it needs to be dragged along the sea for many kilometers, how do you think it`s inside the nose....mumu zulu head[/s]

Provide citations for proof of dipping bouys

Thanks

agaugust:
[s]Tiny Cuba defeated big fat South Africa in Angolan Bush war 1990.

Tiny Cuba training South African army on homeland soil Soweto to maintain South African made vehicles 2014.

Tiny Cuba training South African air force pilots 2015.

Tiny Cuba becomes master over big fat South Africa for the past 25 years non-stop.

Tiny Cuba confirms that South African air force still has chronic pilots shortages from jets to helicopters, proves what we have been saying is correct up till now September 2015 and so shall it ever be.

Hey, look oooooo, defenceweb has come again ooooo !!!!!!

Shame of the century, see the Southies that laugh at other people for using PMC trainers

[size=13pt]Exclusive: Cuba now teaching flying and air traffic control to SA Air Force members[/s][/size]

SOURCE : http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40658:exclusive-cuba-now-teaching-flying-and-air-traffic-control-to-sa-air-force-members&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

https://www.cliparthut.com/clip-arts/594/laughing-clip-art-594049.jpg
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1. Cuba defeated us? Which battle which war?

2. Yes, we pay the Cubans to do it rather than more expensive private companies. So what?

3. Training airforce pilots? So what?

4. Tiny Cuba has confirmed no such pilot shortages

5. Professional armies send people abroad all the time, it is an international norm

[size=13pt]Exlcusive: Augbugug makes up stories from nothing, desperate to find somethig to insult the SANDF about[/size]

agaugust:
How do you think I got all the data and information about specs, dates, and numbers of weapons transfer?

How do you think I know SAAF imported only 25 Iris-T missiles and SAN has only 17 Exocets ?

How do you think I post SIPRI information of all types and countries on this forum since 2012 ?

Dunce you are....full time mumu from birth

That's a source, SIPRI website link, click on it and go to arms transfer register, select country , supplier and receiver of arms.

Then select years of arms sales.

Fool.....dullard white boy with Zulu brain does not even know how to access information from international arms sales log

You are a disgrace to the nation of South Africa.....dull headed people, second dullest brains in the world according to WEF report
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SIPRI makes no mention of Sonar Bouys for your Lynx

Citations please

agaugust:
If SAAF is truly professional, tiny Cuba will not be teaching your Gripen flying air force simple air AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL
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Who said air-traffic control is simple?

agaugust:
Sub-Saharan countries like tiny Eritrea have BVR missiles with about 80 km range, they will wipe out Nigeria.

Uganda has anti-radiation missiles, does Nigeria have it? No.

Other Sub Saharan air forces have many aircraft that Nigeria can only dream of like Alice in wonderland.

Your own argument kills you

agaugust:
[s]Your Southie airforce is nothing but plenty of painted aircraft colours and dozens of dullard pilots who have to be transported to Cuba to improve their dull heads with Cuban training, I said it many times on this forum that Cuban air force of teenage pilots defeated old men pilots of South African air force in the bush war, that's why your SAAF of today has retured to learn the trade form it's Cuban masters.

Why did you not ask Col. Eben Barlow to train your pilots? You said his boys fly NAF aircraft against Boko Haram, so why is South Africa running to Cuba to save your collapsed air force?[/s]

1. When and how did the Cubans defeat our airforce?

2. Who said it was to improve our training? Its to train NEW pilots from scratch, you assclown

3. Who said we are running to cuba to save our collapsed airforce?

Augubug, your argument is beyon ludicrous.

Have you stopped for a second to think that since we are lease-ing our Pilatus trainers to the Arabs for a year we have lost a certain ammount of capacity to train new recruits how to fly, so we have sent them over to Cuba to learn basic flying skills?

Again, you are so desperate to create insults out of nothing

agaugust:
[s]We say Cuba is training SAAF, you reply that SA trains British military, why did you not specify the training with sources to prove it so we can compare it to what Cuba is doing to rescue South African air force from total collapse[/s]

Augbug

Are you saying that Cuba is training SAAF pilots to fly platforms that Cuba does not have?

Wow, Cubans must be the gods of flight to train SAAF pilots how to fly planes that the Cubans dont have and have never been in.

Again, Cubans are helping us make up the capacity lost when we let some arabs use up our pilatus PC-7's

Assclown

agaugust:
[s]Oman ? You train dullard Arabs? Yes, I see why, it's because the dullest bottom brain of the world is Yemen, and they are close to Oman, they live in the same Arabian desert as brothers.....that's why South Africa is ranked second dullest in the world and Arab Yemen is the dullest one step duller than you, so you can train them o !

Mumu Southie....he cannot open SIPRI database, retaaaaarrrded like Oman and Yemen pilots[/s]
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Fact is: We train them

Deal with it

agaugust:
Let me help you South African dullard, I have posted 3 different sources already, lets me add number 4 web link source for a fool who desperately needs Nigerian education....

"The Lynx Mk-89 was operated by a crew of two. The NN's were essentially an Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) weapons platform capable of deploying two self homing torpedoes (Aspide 244 Torpedoes) which were manufatured in Italy. The Lynx are designed to be operated from Frigates "


https://books.google.ca/books?id=hLiQBQAAQBAJ&pg=PT38&lpg=PT38&dq=Lynx+Mk-89&source=bl&ots=PJUd4j3jCM&sig=pQdKjrSs-XUdvNgnItCa4LNDuT4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFoQ6AEwC2oVChMIquGK3-bvxwIV1zGICh0-jg8Q#v=onepage&q=Lynx%20Mk-89&f=false

You are a born foooooool
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I dont see a single mention of "sonar"

CItation please

Henry120:
LOL ....... With your Frigates with obsolete defective combat suite....... LOL

How are you going to manage this.

Obsolete and defective compared to what?

MikeCZAR:
Limited missile knowledge demonstrated again.

SAAF fighter pilots are among if not the best in sub Saharan Africa.

That Cuban training is not a operational requirement but a political decision they'll be train again when they come home in SAAF procedures.

Nigerians worship a South African trained former officer .

Personal opinion demonstrated again, no single source or citation to prove all your tales by moonlight story telling.

Anyway thanks for finally admitting that Col. Eben is NOT in your SANDF and not a military man anymore, he is a civilian.

#Suicide Comment Of The Week
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MikeCZAR:
Nothing here.

Assumptions again.

What other warships use the same combat suite?

Tested against targets in exercises world perfectly fine.

On the other hand in its existence your has never fired a missile.

Nigerian navy has fired missiles, Otomats in sea exercises before, no navy does it all the time, SAN too did it only once with Valour frigates or you fire missiles every year like a ritual?

iblawi:
How will you even ask us to provide prove that what you think about us is wrong.

[size=13pt]You should prove that our Lynx have no sonar.
Prove that we don't have enough pilots like your dead airforce.
Prove that no country have BVR missile in sub Sahara Africa
Prove that Nigeria only have 3 F-7.
Prove that Nigeria have only 75 vessels. Etc
Prove all your claims. [/size]

That's a nuclear bomb dropped inside South African's pants....gbaaaaaam !
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patches689:
4 Frigates
3 subs

Nigeria has ZERO operational Frigates

AND

ZERO subs

You think bragging about a fleet of tiny speed boats is somehow impressive?

Clown

4 Frigates with empty missile and torpedo tubes plus obsolete combat suite ! Wow ! So that is all South African navy has to boast of? Tiny navy with only 4 ships.

Nigerian navy has about 400 vessels of all sizes, please summon courage and tell us :

How many vessels does your Southie navy have ?

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patches689:
No.

I have said nothing

You said that your decoys will defeat them - prove it.

Be a man and stand by what you say

Nope, I simply posted the decoy source, you challenged it, so you need to prove that Navy Technology website is wrong with their facts, so prove the decoys won't work, you are the one doubting the technical capability, so back your claim with a source or else you remain defeated
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