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patches689:
Provide citations for proof of dipping bouys

Thanks

All sources call them self homing torpedo armed Lynx ASW helicopters, it's up to you to prove that the guided torpedoes have no sonar in the helicopter to guide them to target.....LOL....show us how our guided torpedoes work without a sonar guidance....burden of proof is on you .

# Southie Foolishness On Display
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agaugust:
4 Frigates with empty missile and torpedo tubes plus obsolete combat suite ! Wow ! So that is all South African navy has to boast of? Tiny navy with only 4 ships.

Nigerian navy has about 400 vessels of all sizes, please summon courage and tell us :

How many vessels does your Southie navy have ?

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1. Valour Class have missiles

2. Combat suite obsolete compared to what?

South Africa has 4 Frigates and 3 Subs. Nigeria currently has none of these at sea

Still waiting for proof of 400 vessels.....

agaugust:
Nope, I simply posted the decoy source, you challenged it, so you need to prove that Navy Technology website is wrong with their facts, so prove the decoys won't work, you are the one doubting the technical capability, so back your claim with a source or else you remain defeated
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Where did I say that they will not work? Quote me.

All I want to know is how effective they are... 100%? 80%? what?

That was the question I asked when you first brought this up, and that is the only question I continue to ask.

Answer it

agaugust:
[s]All sources call them self homing torpedo armed Lynx ASW helicopters, it's up to you to prove that the guided torpedoes have no sonar in the helicopter to guide them to target.....LOL....show us how our guided torpedoes work without a sonar guidance....burden of proof is on you .

# Southie Foolishness On Display [/s]
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Nope. Thats not how this works.

You have said they have sonar?

Provide citations.

patches689:
SIPRI makes no mention of Sonar Bouys for your Lynx

Citations please

SIPRI makes no mention of Sonar Bouys for South African Super Lynx .

Citations please
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patches689:
Who said air-traffic control is simple?

Cuba says so.

That's why they can understand it, but South Africans cannot, you need Cuba to teach you simple things
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agaugust:
SIPRI makes no mention of Sonar Bouys for South African Super Lynx .

Citations please
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Why are you avoiding the question?

No one is talking about South African Lynx

We are talking about Nigerian Lynx

Now, citations please

agaugust:
Cuba says so.

That's why they can understand it, but South Africans cannot, you need Cuba to teach you simple things
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Where does Cuba say that it is easy?

Show us.

patches689:
Your own argument kills you

Stop messing up this thread, Mr. Desperate !

Stop editing my comments and changing my words under my own name/moniker. It's a sign that I have defeated you beyond repair

Write your own arguments under your own name/moniker....if you have any courage left !
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patches689:
Obsolete and defective compared to what?

NNS Centenary solid state radar, FC radar, 100% digital navionics, stealth 76mm gun, HP-J 14 anti-missile defences...all modern 2014 tech
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agaugust:
Stop messing up this thread, Mr. Desperate !

Stop editing my comments and changing my words under my own name/moniker. It's a sign that I have defeated you beyond repair

Write your own arguments under your own name/moniker....if you have any courage left !
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Ok:

Sub-Saharan countries like tiny Eritrea have BVR missiles with about 80 km range, they will wipe out Nigeria.

Uganda has anti-radiation missiles, does Nigeria have it? No.

Other Sub Saharan air forces have many aircraft that Nigeria can only dream of like Alice in wonderland.

Deal with the [b]CONTEN[/b]T of the post and stop wasting time with childish insults

agaugust:
NNS Centenary solid state radar, FC radar, 100% digital navionics, stealth 76mm gun, HP-J 14 anti-missile defences...all modern 2014 tech
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How is it better?

patches689:
1. Valour Class have missiles

2. Combat suite obsolete compared to what?

South Africa has 4 Frigates and 3 Subs. Nigeria currently has none of these at sea

[size=13pt]All South Africans are afraid to answer our simple question since 3 days ago....

How many vessels does your Southie navy have ? [/size]

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agaugust:
[size=13pt]All South Africans are afraid to answer our simple question since 3 days ago....

How many vessels does your Southie navy have ? [/size]

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Define vessel

patches689:
Where did I say that they will not work? Quote me.

All I want to know is how effective they are... 100%? 80%? what?

Go ask the Chinese manufacturer then
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agaugust:
Go ask the Chinese manufacturer then
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So you dont know how effective they are?

Then how can you say they will defeat our missiles?

patches689:
Nope. Thats not how this works.

Striking out people's comments to cancel their words, is a sign of total defeat for South Africans.

It means the Nigerian's comment hurts so much you cannot face the shameful defeat, so you hide our words under strike-through lines

# Symbol Of Southies Defeat....they strike-out our commets
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agaugust:
[s]Striking out people's comments to cancel their words, is a sign of total defeat for South Africans.

It means the Nigerian's comment hurts so much you cannot face the shameful defeat, so you hide our words under strike-through lines

# Symbol Of Southies Defeat....they strike-out our commets[/s]
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I strike out trash that I dont bother reading

Provide your citation. I am not going to argue with you. I am not going to discuss anything with you. I want your citation, or, remove your claim

patches689:
Why are you avoiding the question?

No one is talking about South African Lynx

We are talking about Nigerian Lynx

Now, citations please

We are talking about both Nigeria and South Africa on this forum.

We have proved Nigerian navy Lynx are ASW and armed with torpedoes.

Now it's time for you to prove that South African Super Lynx are ASW and have torpedoes plus sonar.

All photos and sources show ONLY radar and FLIR on South African Super Lynx, so game on :

1. SIPRI makes no mention of Sonar for South African Super Lynx

2. SIPRI makes no mention of Torpedoes for South African Super Lynx

3. SIPRI makes no mention of ASW for South African Super Lynx.

Citations please !!!!! Or else all South African super Lynx are ordinary maritime patrol/rescue and not ASW !!!!

# Chicken comes home to roost !
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agaugust:
[s]We are talking about both Nigeria and South Africa on this forum.

We have proved Nigerian navy Lynx are ASW and armed with torpedoes.

Now it's time for you to prove that South African Super Lynx are ASW and have torpedoes plus sonar.

All photos and sources show ONLY radar and FLIR on South African Super Lynx, so game on :

1. SIPRI makes not mention of Sonar for South African Super Lynx

2. SIPRI makes no mention of Torpedoes for South African Super Lynx

3. SIPRI makes no mention of ASW for South African Super Lynx.[/s]

Citations please !!!!!

# Chicken comes home to roost !
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1. We arent talking about South African Lynx
2. Nigeria has no submarines

Stop trying to change topics.

You said your Lynx have sonar.

Citation please.

patches689:
Define vessel

Your source clearly says Nigerian navy 1999-2009.

Your source is obsolete, it is 6 years behind time.

It was written before we got 4 frigate sized OPVs and 300 new gunboats.

So, desperate, you Southies are so defeated you post NAF and NN sources that date back to 2009

This is year 2015 you dullards, no wonder tiny Cuba is upgrading your Soweto dull brains
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patches689:
1. We arent talking about South African Lynx
2. Nigeria has no submarines

Stop trying to change topics.

You said your Lynx have sonar.

Citation please.

We are talking about both Nigeria and South Africa on this forum.

We have proved Nigerian navy Lynx are ASW and armed with torpedoes.

Now it's time for you to prove that South African Super Lynx are ASW and have torpedoes plus sonar.

All photos and sources show ONLY radar and FLIR on South African Super Lynx, so game on :

1. SIPRI makes not mention of Sonar for South African Super Lynx

2. SIPRI makes no mention of Torpedoes for South African Super Lynx

3. SIPRI makes no mention of ASW for South African Super Lynx.

Citations please !!!!! Or else all South African super Lynx are basic maritime patrol/rescue and not ASW !!!!

# Chicken comes home to roost !
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patches689:
So you dont know how effective they are?

Then how can you say they will defeat our missiles?

You have ONLY 13 missiles, and how effective are they according to manufacturer specs ?
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agaugust:
Your source clearly says Nigerian navy 1999-2009.

Your source is obsolete, it is 6 years behind time.

It was written before we got 4 frigate sized OPVs and 300 new gunboats.

So, desperate, you Southies are so defeated you post NAF and NN sources that date back to 2009

This is year 2015 you dullards, no wonder tiny Cuba is upgrading your Soweto dull brains
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1. Provide citations that your vessels are operational
2. Still waiting for citation that you have "300 gunboats"


Your pathetic navy is a rust fleet that never leaves port - confirmed by your Admirals.

These are the facts, no lies, no attempts at clever arguments.

Just simple facts in black and white.

agaugust:
How effective are your ONLY 13 missiles according to manufacturer specs ?

We have allready shown you.

80% effectiveness in Falklands war.

And we have 17, 80% of 17 is 13 missiles. You need to show your decoys can defeat 13 missiles.

Also, how effective are your ZERO missiles?

patches689:
How is it better?

NNS Centenary has technological superiority over SAN frigates
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agaugust:
NNS Centenary has technological superiority over SAN frigates
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How?

patches689:
We have allready shown you.

80% effectiveness in Falklands war.

And we have 17, 80% of 17 is 13 missiles. You need to show your decoys can defeat 13 missiles.

Also, how effective are your ZERO missiles?

Those percentages are from you, and are based on your personal bedroom opinion of 1982 old weapons.

Show me manufacturer specs to prove your claims, or is @Patches now a technical source of weapons data by himself ?
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agaugust:
Those percentages are from you, and are based on your personal bedroom opinion of 1982 old weapons.

Show me manufacturer specs to prove your claims, or is @Patches now a technical source of weapons data by himself ?
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Those are not my personal opinions.

Those are the actual effectiveness of the Exocet during the Falklands War - real world battlefield testing, as real as it gets. Its HARD FACT.

Now, you need to show how your decoys will defeat 13 missiles.

patches689:
You said your Lynx have sonar.

Citation please.

I am warning you to drop this argument, or else it will end up proving that the South African navy Super Lynx helicopters that all South Africans have so much boasted about on Nairaland since year 2010, actually have no Torpedoes !

Just like the Valour frigates that carry them ! SAN is buying things with no torpedoes ! SAAF has no record of sonar and torpedoes for your Super Lynx, SIPRI does NOT even rank your Super Lynx as ASW and that means they have NO Anti-Submarine Warfare capability !!!!

Mandela bought you ordinary patrol and rescue Super Lynx helicopters for 4 x $40 million = $160 million
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agaugust:
I am warning you to drop this argument, or else it will end up proving that the South African navy Super Lynx helicopters that all South Africans have so much boasted about on Nairaland since year 2010, actually have no Torpedoes !

Just like the Valour frigates that carry them ! SAN is buying things with no torpedoes ! SAAF has no record of sonar and torpedoes for your Super Lynx, SIPRI does NOT even rank your Super Lynx as ASW !!!!

Mandela bought you patrol and rescue Super Lynx helicopters
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So what?

Does Nigeria have submarines?

No?

Ok then.

patches689:
Those are not my personal opinions.

Those are the actual effectiveness of the Exocet during the Falklands War - real world battlefield testing, as real as it gets. Its HARD FACT.

Those are not my personal opinions.

Post citation for your percentages then, show us a weblink source to prove it , I DARE YOU !!!!!!
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