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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:53pm On Sep 13, 2015
agaugust:
[s]Fraud, you are a fraud !!!

Stop lying, America is not doing the same foolish thing that SAAF is doing, it's actually the exact opposite in America.

Your own source says USAF military pilots are so many and so good technically, that commercial airlines want to employ them and offer higher salary.

""This is sort of low-hanging fruit," Harvey said. "We've got amazing individuals coming out of the military, that are ready and excited and passionate about starting a career, or continuing a career, that we can utilize and capitalize on their experience. We have to look at every pipeline available."

The airlines hope to lure pilots away by offering hefty salaries, extensive benefits and job security without having to deploy, a Rand Corp. study found."


http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/04/20/airlines-increase-pilot-hiring-threaten-af-retention/25941529/

I am using your own source to prove you a fraud as usual.

South African air force is having current shortage of pilots today 2015 and are asking South African airways a commercial airline for help grin

SAAF is dead, I have always said it.....September 2015 news reports proves us to be right ![/s]
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Read the WHOLE article you buffoon

Then read this:
http://taskandpurpose.com/air-force-paying-big-bonuses-pilots-forcing-others/

Then read this:
http://www.af.mil.za/reserves/reserves.htm


SAAF reaching out to SAA for more reserve pilots is nothing new (its been happening since the SAAF was invented in 1915) and is done by Airforces AROUND THE WORLD

Stop trying to create controversy where there is none
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 4:56pm On Sep 13, 2015
agaugust:
Fraud, you are a fraud !!!

Stop lying, America is not doing the same foolish thing that SAAF is doing, it's actually the exact opposite in America.

Your own source says USAF military pilots are so many and so good technically, that commercial airlines want to employ them and offer higher salary.

""This is sort of low-hanging fruit," Harvey said. "We've got amazing individuals coming out of the military, that are ready and excited and passionate about starting a career, or continuing a career, that we can utilize and capitalize on their experience. We have to look at every pipeline available."

The airlines hope to lure pilots away by offering hefty salaries, extensive benefits and job security without having to deploy, a Rand Corp. study found."


http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/2015/04/20/airlines-increase-pilot-hiring-threaten-af-retention/25941529/

I am using your own source to prove you a fraud as usual.

South African air force is having current shortage of pilots today 2015 and are asking South African airways a commercial airline for help grin

SAAF is dead, I have always said it.....September 2015 news reports proves us to be right !
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That's exactly what he doesn't understand. The US air force is so large and spitting out so many very good pilots that the airlines PREFER to take from the air force than train their own. Here the SAAF is begging for pilots.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:00pm On Sep 13, 2015
dragon2:
[s]That's exactly what he doesn't understand. The US air force is so large and spitting out so many very good pilots that the airlines PREFER to take from the air force than train their own. Here the SAAF is begging for pilots.[/s]
READ

THE

MOTHERFUCKKING

ARTICLE


The USAF is STRUGGLING to keep enough pilots BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING POACHED BY PRIVATE AIRLINES with the result that they are now short 600 fighter pilots and are trying to figure out better ways of keeping Commercial pilots in their reserves.

I dont post citations for fun.

Read them, understand them, comment accordingly
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody:
agaugust:
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[size=13pt]South Africans ...Bwhahahahaha grin grin

Desperate Southie people, when Naija people wreck their military with facts, they start posting random photos .

# Defeated SAAF has ZERO anti-submarine helicopters...Proved, Mandela's Super Lynx is NOT Super grin grin[/size]
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That's exactly what they always do. As soon as they notice they've been severely wrecked, they call in the photo posters to execute damage control tactics.

It is the primary job of Thiza, he's now been joined by Saengine.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:04pm On Sep 13, 2015
Henry120:
That's exactly what they always do. As soon as they notice they've been severely wrecked, the call in the photo posters to execute damage control tactics.

It is the primary job of Thiza, he's now been joined by Saengine.
Severely wrecked how?

You are the ones who cant prove your helo has what you claim grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 5:13pm On Sep 13, 2015
patches689:
READ

THE

MOTHERFUCKKING

ARTICLE


The USAF is STRUGGLING to keep enough pilots BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING POACHED BY PRIVATE AIRLINES with the result that they are now short 600 fighter pilots and are trying to figure out better ways of keeping Commercial pilots in their reserves.

I dont post citations for fun.

Read them, understand them, comment accordingly
And I keep telling you when compared to the 12,920 pilots, 3,413 navigators and 1,443 air battle manager the US has it is insignificant to the defence of the country unlike your crises. They can always spit out more,which you are obviously struggling to do. Something Nigeria has no problems with.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 5:14pm On Sep 13, 2015
patches689:
Severely wrecked how?

You are the ones who cant prove your helo has what you claim grin grin
SAN and SAAF are dead. You don't need to prove anything.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:15pm On Sep 13, 2015
dragon2:
And I keep telling you when compared to the 12,920 pilots, 3,413 navigators and 1,443 air battle manager the US has it is insignificant to the defence of the country unlike your crises. They can always spit out more,which you are obviously struggling to do. Something Nigeria has no problems with.
Fact 1: USAF is short 600 fighter pilots

Fact 2: USAF is struggling to make up these losses

Fact 3: They are turning to the private sector for assistance with these matters

Exactly as the SAAF is doing.

And Nigeria is laregly unable to train its own pilots:

As of 2009, most of its fleets were grounded and its training institutions were constrained with shortages of technical skills such as instructors and institutional facilities.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/air-force.htm

Thats why you have white boys flying your hinds
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 5:21pm On Sep 13, 2015
patches689:
Fact 1: USAF is short 600 fighter pilots

Fact 2: USAF is struggling to make up these losses

Fact 3: They are turning to the private sector for assistance with these matters

Exactly as the SAAF is doing.

And Nigeria is laregly unable to train its own pilots:

As of 2009, most of its fleets were grounded and its training institutions were constrained with shortages of technical skills such as instructors and institutional facilities.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/air-force.htm

Thats why you have white boys flying your hinds
Fact 2 is wrong, nowhere they said the are struggling to make up loses.
2009 is not 2015.The air force has been recruiting and training pilots in numbers since the return of democracy.The shortfall was as a result of the Military era fearful of its own.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:22pm On Sep 13, 2015
patches689:
READ

THE

MOTHERFUCKKING

ARTICLE


The USAF is STRUGGLING to keep enough pilots BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING POACHED BY PRIVATE AIRLINES with the result that they are now short 600 fighter pilots and are trying to figure out better ways of keeping Commercial pilots in their reserves.

I dont post citations for fun.

Read them, understand them, comment accordingly
Dude stop, adding your own fraudulent language to the news report !

USAF is NOT struggling to keep enough pilots, the source does NOT say that, it says they have vacancy for 520 pilots, every military force has vacancy at some times, NOT like SAAF that has 90% vacancy permanently killing the air force of Mandela with chronic pilots shortage.

USAF has 13,000 pilots , so stop comparing South African air force that is dead in the valley of dry bones

BTWN....this is an African military thread, so what is America's business here ? It's Nigeria Vs South Africa
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 5:23pm On Sep 13, 2015
patches689:
Fact 1: USAF is short 600 fighter pilots

Fact 2: USAF is struggling to make up these losses

Fact 3: They are turning to the private sector for assistance with these matters

Exactly as the SAAF is doing.

And Nigeria is laregly unable to train its own pilots:

As of 2009, most of its fleets were grounded and its training institutions were constrained with shortages of technical skills such as instructors and institutional facilities.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/air-force.htm

Thats why you have white boys flying your hinds
Is this the best you can get?
2009- 2015

Just accept it that your airforce is dead.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 5:25pm On Sep 13, 2015
By the way if you think 5% Shortage is significant, I give up. That can't be compared to a South Africa struggling to maintain a Squadron of 2 helicopters.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 5:28pm On Sep 13, 2015
BOKO HARAM{ISWAP} FIGHTERS SURRENDER IN DROVES!!
SCHOOLS COMMENCE REOPENING IN MADAGALI AND ALL OVER BORNO!!
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http://saharareporters.com/2015/09/13/nigerian-troops-claim-boko-haram-terrorists-are-surrendering-droves
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 5:29pm On Sep 13, 2015
SAAF is dead just waiting for burial ceremony. Your navy is the next to die.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 5:47pm On Sep 13, 2015
EVarn:
BOKO HARAM{ISWAP} FIGHTERS SURRENDER IN DROVES!!
SCHOOLS COMMENCE REOPENING IN MADAGALI AND ALL OVER BORNO!!
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http://saharareporters.com/2015/09/13/nigerian-troops-claim-boko-haram-terrorists-are-surrendering-droves
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Good news.

I heard of another operation In South South, something about pirates but it seems things are going well for the Nigerian armed forces there too.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 6:10pm On Sep 13, 2015
What is this rubbish about our lynx not being ASW?

edit: Flight global mag. If you want the PDF let me know.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 6:12pm On Sep 13, 2015
www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/lynx.php

Lynx Mk 87: embargoed version for Argentine navy, similar to Lynx Mk 23 but with uprated engines
Lynx Mk 88: version for the Federal German navy similar to Lynx Mk 86; equipped with sonar; 19 built
Lynx Mk 89: version for Nigerian navy; equipped for ASW/SAR roles; three built
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 6:15pm On Sep 13, 2015
Nigeria obtained three "Lynx Mark 89" machines, which featured Gem 43-1 Mark 1020 engines with 847
kW (1,135 SHP) and digital engine fuel controls for "hot and high" performance; Bendix Primus 500 radar
instead of Seaspray radar; and folding tailbooms.

www.airvectors.net/avlynx_2.html

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:20pm On Sep 13, 2015
patches689:
Severely wrecked how?
You are the ones who cant prove your helo has what you claim grin grin
It has been proven multiple times.

Don't worry Thiza and Saengine are about to execute operation photo posting.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PetroDolla3: 6:25pm On Sep 13, 2015
This is what happens when you allow 5 year olds access to the Internet! A senseless mor0n cool in a hopelessly fvcked up armpit hell hole! a fvcking loser cool

Why are shitnigerians do damn stvpid? My dog has more sense than this fool cheesy boy, you are truly dumb cool

Lezzlie
post=37680125:

Behold the wailing and weeping of your president in the UK where he was giving reasons why the UK shouldn't stop giving aids and grants to feed ghana. Please read for my pleasure and your horror :


Ghana’s President says Nigeria’s tall list of trade prohibitions has stunted regional trade and by extension, frustrated economic integration in the sub region.

(SUMMARY :we determine the economic temperature of the entire region )

John Mahama told an audience of the Africa Summit at the London School of Economics that he found it befuddling that Africa’s most populous country is not respecting the Trade Liberalisation Scheme of the Economic Community of West African States.

Already seen as an economic giant in Africa, the country just became the Continent’s biggest economic hub after a rebasing exercise which resulted in the oil-rich West African country nudging off South Africa from the top.

Its GDP for 2013 totalled 80.3 trillion naira (£307.6bn: $509.9bn). That compares with South Africa's GDP of $370.3bn at the end of 2013.

Its GDP now includes previously uncounted industries like telecoms, information technology, music, online sales, airlines, and film production. (SUMMARY :we are top players on the continent not just west africa)

Mr Mahama says Nigeria’s protectionist measures do not bode well for regional trade and integration, adding that the country has more responsibility to foster the integration agenda since it wields tremendous economic power in the sub region.
(SUMMARY : This is a clear, and open admission of our superiority over you and a subtly plea from your president to free you from the colonialist,UK. We are ever ready to unshakle your chains of economic want, the question is are you ready?)



“I believe that Nigeria has a certain kind of responsibility in West Africa, because it is the largest economy and the most populous country. ” (SUMMARY :Again an open confession of our might and power over you. This is interesting )

The Ghanaian President added that: “Nigeria has nothing to fear from Ghana in terms of competition. Nigeria has nothing to fear from Cote D’lvoire in terms of competition. Nigeria has nothing to fear from Benin or Togo or Niger in terms of competition and yet year in, year out, there is a prohibition list,” he bewailed. CONCLUSION : Do you need anyone to tell you that you're the world's stupidest buffoon without a sense of hierarchy?

Foolish son of Ghana.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:54pm On Sep 13, 2015
PetroDolla3:
This is what happens when you allow 5 year olds access to the Internet! A senseless mor0n cool in a hopelessly fvcked up armpit hell hole! a fvcking loser cool

Why are shitnigerians do damn stvpid? My dog has more sense than this fool cheesy boy, you are truly dumb cool
i think he was right when he called you "stupid son of Ghana".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:03pm On Sep 13, 2015
iblawi:
Good news.
I heard of another operation In South South, something about pirates but it seems things are going well for the Nigerian armed forces there too.
Now that the anti-terrorism war is finally winding to a halt{though the military will have to undergo complete transformation and always be on alert from now on},it is time for the military to tackle the dissenting miscreants down south: all these radio biafra,IPOB and pirate/MEND ruffians should be completely neutralized before they cause any major disturbance.
Amnesty is only a temporal money-draining measure,the only language that violence understands is force; a country like Nigeria shouldnt allow fragments of radical movements to sprawl dormant all over the nation,we have too many international rivals,overzealous "friends" and enemies who would use them as tools for destabilization to great effect.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 8:12pm On Sep 13, 2015
dragon2:
www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/lynx.php

Lynx Mk 87: embargoed version for Argentine navy, similar to Lynx Mk 23 but with uprated engines
Lynx Mk 88: version for the Federal German navy similar to Lynx Mk 86; equipped with sonar; 19 built
Lynx Mk 89: version for Nigerian navy; equipped for ASW/SAR roles; three built
Well done bro.

Lovely, everything South Africans want to know about our Lynx is here. Now prove yours.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 8:31pm On Sep 13, 2015
http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/46/super-helicopter-300

Description:
South Africa has ordered four Super Lynx 300 Mk 64 helicopters from AgustaWestland to operate from the SA Navy's Meko A200SAN class frigattes. The helicopters will provide a surface search capability in the anti-surface warfare roles, search and rescue (SAR), maritime patrol and utility duties.
The type was selected in competition against the Eurocopter AS532 Cougar and the Russian Kamov Ka 28 Helix. A dark horse in the race, imagined or otherwise, was Kaman's SG-2G Seasprite, said to be cheaper but is equally effective. Super Lynx pipped them to the post and a deal to deliver the four from April 2007 was signed in Pretoria on August 14, 2003.
According to the sales literature, the Super Lynx 300 was developed from the proven Super Lynx 100. It incorporates an all new integrated "glass" cockpit with a colour liquid crystal display system provides the crew with state-of-the-art technology increasing crew and mission effectiveness. The more powerful LHTEC CTS800-4N engines, jointly developed by Rolls-Royce and Honeywell, complemented with a Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) delivers low maintenance, enhanced performance and excellent economy with over 30% more power. The airframe is expected to last 10,000 hours.
The helicopter's maximum all up weight (MAUW) is 5 330 kg and the cabin can accommodate up to 9 troops. The crew consists of a pilot and a tactical officer, while additional crew can be used to operate special role equipment as necessary.
The role equipment incorporates a hoist to assist with SAR missions, a cargo hook for under-slung loads for ship-to-shore and ship-to-ship replenishment and a powerful searchlight.
The Telephonics Ocean-Eye radar is the aircraft's primary mission sensor and allows the crew to detect and track small to large surface contacts at long ranges. Complementing the radar is the Sysdel Sea Raven Electronic Support Measures (ESM) suite, which is used for passive target detection and identification. A Denel Optronics Argos 410-M Electro Optic Sight System with a forward-looking infra-red (FLIR) sensor and a day camera is used for passive target identification and recording. Target tracks and video images can be transmitted to the parent ship in real time using the Datalink unit supplied by Thales Advanced Engineering.
A 12,7 gun for self-protection will also form part of the current role equipment while growth options for surface and sub-surface warfare had been allowed for. This could include anti-ship missiles, depth charges, torpedoes, and rockets.
South African components include a Sysdel electronic warfare suite, a Saab Grintek Avitronics EW countermeasures system, an Aerosud armoured flight crew seats as well as an infrared exhaust suppression system - by the same company. Denel is supplying an electro-optical sighting system (EOSS) and Tellumat an Identification Friend or Foe system. Thales Advanced Engineering was contracted to supply a datalink as a well as a "video grabber", a dedicated bit of hardware that allows the transfer of video material taken by the EOSS to be transmitted to the mothership for further action. Reutech Defence Industries and Saab Grintek Communications Systems provided the HF and V/UHF radios.
The first two aircraft (193 and 194) arrived at Cape Town IAP on Friday 13 July 2007 aboard an An-124, while 191 and 192 arrived on 27 July 2007.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 8:39pm On Sep 13, 2015
A 12,7 gun for self-protection will also form part of the current role equipment while growth options for surface and sub-surface warfare had been allowed for. This could include anti-ship missiles, depth charges, torpedoes, and rockets.

Your lynx is just SAR with no ASW but growth options were allowed for. Too bad
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PetroDolla3: 9:01pm On Sep 13, 2015
Dirty ugly pig! How is it my fault the Federal Republic of Fools is phucked? cool spastic magg0t!

Jeez, the fools even eat from dustbins grin

Shitnigeria is a fvcking shith0le huh Omo naija generator republic!

Hahahaha I feel sorry for the fools! They make me sick. We should build a concentration camp and gas the fvcking lot of them grin grin grin

Damn, such deep-rooted inferiority complex shocked shocked


craziebone:
i think he was right when he called you "stupid son of Ghana".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by 14(m): 9:13pm On Sep 13, 2015
PetroDolla3:
This is what happens when you allow 5 year olds access to the Internet! A senseless mor0n cool in a hopelessly fvcked up armpit hell hole! a fvcking loser cool

Why are shitnigerians do damn stvpid? My dog has more sense than this fool cheesy boy, you are truly dumb cool
never mind these people, they proclaim to have the biggest economy im africa, but they have only $23billion budget compare to SA's $120billion budget 2014. Do your maths.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m):
South African don run. As we have proved their airforce is dead. I'm advising you not to challenge us again so that more won't be reviled.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:27am On Sep 14, 2015
agaugust:
[s]Dude stop, adding your own fraudulent language to the news report !

USAF is NOT struggling to keep enough pilots, the source does NOT say that, it says they have vacancy for 520 pilots, every military force has vacancy at some times, NOT like SAAF that has 90% vacancy permanently killing the air force of Mandela with chronic pilots shortage.

USAF has 13,000 pilots , so stop comparing South African air force that is dead in the valley of dry bones

BTWN....this is an African military thread, so what is America's business here ? It's Nigeria Vs South Africa[/s]
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Read the article that is exactly what it says

Now, I have just proven that militaries around the world reach out to national carriers for reserve pilots.

Deal with it
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:28am On Sep 14, 2015
dragon2:
Fact 2 is wrong, nowhere they said the are struggling to make up loses.
2009 is not 2015.The air force has been recruiting and training pilots in numbers since the return of democracy.The shortfall was as a result of the Military era fearful of its own.
Provide cutations to prove this please.

Until proven otherwise - nigeria is unable to train its own pilots
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:29am On Sep 14, 2015
iblawi:
Is this the best you can get?
2009- 2015

Just accept it that your airforce is dead.
Provide citations or get out
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:30am On Sep 14, 2015
dragon2:
By the way if you think 5% Shortage is significant, I give up. That can't be compared to a South Africa struggling to maintain a Squadron of 2 helicopters.
Who said we are struggling to maintain a squadron of 2 helicopters?

are you illiterate?
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