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Henry120:
It has been proven multiple times.


Don't worry Thiza and Saengine are about to execute operation photo posting.

Proven where and when?

By posting an article that says SAAF is working on building up a bigger pool of reserve pilots just like it has been doing since 1915?

iblawi:
A 12,7 gun for self-protection will also form part of the current role equipment while growth options for surface and sub-surface warfare had been allowed for. This could include anti-ship missiles, depth charges, torpedoes, and rockets.

Your lynx is just SAR with no ASW but growth options were allowed for. Too bad

And so?

Your lynx:

1. Is not operational
2. Has no sonar

iblawi:
South African don run. As we have proved their airforce is dead. I'm advising you not to challenge us again so that more won't be reviled.

How have you proven our airforce is dead?

Again, you are trying to create controvesy where there is none

dragon2:
By the way if you think 5% Shortage is significant, I give up. That can't be compared to a South Africa struggling to maintain a Squadron of 2 helicopters.

How pathetic you are.

According to you we are struggling to put 2 helos in the air yet we are operating 3 Oryx's and 3 Rooivalks currently in DRC.

iblawi:
SERIOUSLY judging by Nairaland South African are the dullest human being on earth why is because you judge by only what you think and not what you know. Most of you arguments on this thread have been based on what you think about others and not what you know.

Our arguments have been based on facts, that's why we always post citations that support our arguments, your arguments have been based on personnel emotion and what you think you know. You guys almost never post citations to support your arguments, just a few days ago you told me I should believe you because I will find nothing on the internet regarding the specs of Nigerian equipment, thus I should take your word as fact!!! I'm mean wtf!!


You guys are seriously the 2nd most ignorent buch ive
seen in my life, behind the Americans.

patches689:
Provide cutations to prove this please.

Until proven otherwise - nigeria is unable to train its own pilots

Nigeria trains it's own air force pilots, South Africa is trained by tiny Cuba :

NATIONAL MIRROR NEWPAPERS
20/11/2011

The Nigerian Air Force 303 Flying Training School, Kano has trained over 127 basic pilots, conducted recurrence training for over 216 pilots and instructor pilots, as well as produced 16 instructor pilots for the air forces of Nigeria, Ghana and Zimbabwe, since its establishment in 1967.

This was disclosed by the Commander of the Kano Flying School, Air Commodore L.T Danbaki, at the graduation ceremony of Batch B of six Belarus Student Pilots. He revealed that the school was primarily tasked to conduct basic flying training on Jet Aircraft for graduates of flying and to conduct instructor pilots training. The unit also conducts conversion training for new instructors and pilot recurrence training for older ones, he added.

It was against this back-drop that they were sent to 303 Flying Training School in February 2010 and subsequently grouped into two batches for ease of instruction and this bold step returned huge dividends as student of the first batch graduated in December 2010 and are now fully operational in the field

Before passing through 303 Flying Training School, Nigerian pilots undergo ab initio training at 301 Flying Training School (FTS) at Kaduna. The unit flies Air Beetle and Dornier aircraft for ab initio and transport pilot training. Since inception, the unit has produced more than 600 student pilots for the NAF, Nigerian Navy and some other African countries.

For helicopter pilot training, students complete primary training at 301 FTS before moving to 305 FTS at Enugu. Before the establishment of 305 Flying Training School, helicopter pilots were sent overseas. In 1986 the NAF acquired Hughes 300C helicopters for 305 FTS, but they were withdrawn and replaced by Mi-34s.
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patches689:
are you illiterate?

patches689:
MOTHERFUCKKING

patches689:
YOU CLOWN

Congratulations on making a fo.ol of yourself.

LOL....@Patches spewing out tons of insults and anger after his Super Lynx fake ASW helicopters got shot down by his own bullets

#Butt Hurt
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agaugust:
[s] Nigeria trains it's own air force pilots, South Africa is trained by tiny Cuba :

NATIONAL MIRROR NEWPAPERS
20/11/2011

The Nigerian Air Force 303 Flying Training School, Kano has trained over 127 basic pilots, conducted recurrence training for over 216 pilots and instructor pilots, as well as produced 16 instructor pilots for the air forces of Nigeria, Ghana and Zimbabwe, since its establishment in 1967.

This was disclosed by the Commander of the Kano Flying School, Air Commodore L.T Danbaki, at the graduation ceremony of Batch B of six Belarus Student Pilots. He revealed that the school was primarily tasked to conduct basic flying training on Jet Aircraft for graduates of flying and to conduct instructor pilots training. The unit also conducts conversion training for new instructors and pilot recurrence training for older ones, he added.

It was against this back-drop that they were sent to 303 Flying Training School in February 2010 and subsequently grouped into two batches for ease of instruction and this bold step returned huge dividends as student of the first batch graduated in December 2010 and are now fully operational in the field

Before passing through 303 Flying Training School, Nigerian pilots undergo ab initio training at 301 Flying Training School (FTS) at Kaduna. The unit flies Air Beetle and Dornier aircraft for ab initio and transport pilot training. Since inception, the unit has produced more than 600 student pilots for the NAF, Nigerian Navy and some other African countries.

For helicopter pilot training, students complete primary training at 301 FTS before moving to 305 FTS at Enugu. Before the establishment of 305 Flying Training School, helicopter pilots were sent overseas. In 1986 the NAF acquired Hughes 300C helicopters for 305 FTS, but they were withdrawn and replaced by Mi-34s.[/s]
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1. SAAF is still training its own pilots.

2. As of 2009, most of its fleets were grounded and its training institutions were constrained with shortages of technical skills such as instructors and institutional facilities.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/air-force.htm

agaugust:
LOL....@Patches spewing out tons of insults and anger after his Super Lynx fake ASW helicopters got shot down by his own bullets

#Butt Hurt
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What fake Lynx helicopters?

Do your Lynx have sonar? Are your lynx even operational?

The answers: No and No

You are the one who ran away when I put the pressure on you.

And no, those comments have nothing to do with the Lynx. Those comments of anger are from when I posted citations and you refused to read them and relate to a completely separate matter. Please do not mis-quote me, it is extremely disingenuous

DictatorZAR:
How pathetic you are.

According to you we are struggling to put 2 helos in the air yet we are operating 3 Oryx's and 3 Rooivalks currently in DRC.

For the sake of your health,read the article I based that comment on.

"......Going back 10 years, 22 Squadron would be able to put six Oryx into the air while the squadron’s current
situation is such it has one, possibly two, of the rotary-winged workhorses available at any given time."

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40595&catid=74&Itemid=30

dragon2:
For the sake of your health,read the article I based that comment on.

"......Going back 10 years, 22 Squadron would be able to put six Oryx into the air while the squadron’s current
situation is such it has one, possibly two, of the rotary-winged workhorses available at any given time."

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40595&catid=74&Itemid=30

This is an accusation levelled by the NSRI - an NGO

The SAAF has of yet not responded on the matter

Give it time, it is a developing story

14:
never mind these people, they proclaim to have the biggest economy im africa, but they have only $23billion budget compare to SA's $120billion budget 2014. Do your maths.

This is a tired argument but I guess you are new here.
Nigeria is a nation of Federated states. The Budget is for the Central/Federal Government only. The 35 States are not included.

patches689:
This is an accusation levelled by the NSRI - an NGO

The SAAF has of yet not responded on the matter

Give it time, it is a developing story

I guess you are now confused. Take a break pls.

patches689:
This is an accusation levelled by the NSRI - an NGO

The SAAF has of yet not responded on the matter

Give it time, it is a developing story

Excuses excuses excuses all the time !!!!

Accept the fact :

""......Going back 10 years, SAAF 22 Squadron would be able to put six Oryx into the air while the squadron’s current
situation is such it has one, possibly two, of the rotary-winged workhorses available at any given time."

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40595&catid=74&Itemid=30"
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patches689:
What fake Lynx helicopters?

The fake ASW South African Super Lynx helicopters that you claimed were CONSTANTLY embarked on the Valour frigates.

Same helicopters that you Southies showed us photos some weeks ago flying above your submarine in a current drill you call ANTI-SUBMARINE WARFARE TRAINING that no navy can do in Sub Saharan Africa.

Yet those Soweto Lynx are ordinary patrol/rescue harmless and powerless over-priced helicopters !!!!!!

They say photos don't lie, but not in South Africa where photos lie everyday !

Only God knows how many fake things are inside the SANDF, SAN, SAAF military photos you have been posting here to deceive the world since 2010 that this forum started.

If Naija guys did not burst your weak navy's burble few days ago, the fraud and deception would have continued all because you have many photos of South African military equipment all over the internet.

You people were deceiving everybody here last month claiming fraudulently that South African navy was conducting Anti-Submarine Warfare live training showing us many of those photos below, that your Super Lynx ASW helicopter was hunting after that submarine.....but it was all fake....fake....lies....fraud....deception !

When South Africa is involved, seeing is NOT believing o ! Photos do lie in South Africa !
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After the whole argument it is now clear that South African airforce and South African Navy have nothing special.

Your Gripens have no pilots
Your Oryx no pilot
Frigate no torpedoes, no ASW, no sailors.
Lynx just SAR.
Submarine only 1 can be at sea at a time.

What else does SAAF and SAN have? I guess camera men.

Am sure your have lot of camera men in your armed forces, and I think it's a basic requirement.

agaugust:
The fake ASW South African Super Lynx helicopters that you claimed were CONSTANTLY embarked on the Valour frigates.

Same helicopters that you Southies showed us photos some weeks ago flying above your submarine in a current drill you call ANTI-SUBMARINE WARFARE TRAINING that no navy can do in Sub Saharan Africa.

Yet those Soweto Lynx are ordinary patrol/rescue harmless and powerless over-priced helicopters !!!!!!

They say photos don't lie, but not in South Africa where photos lie everyday !

Only God knows how many fake things are inside the SANDF, SAN, SAAF military photos you have been posting here to deceive the world since 2010 that this forum started.

If Naija guys did not burst your weak navy's burble few days ago, the fraud and deception would have continued all because you have many photos of South African military equipment all over the internet.

You people were deceiving everybody here last month claiming fraudulently that South African navy was conducting Anti-Submarine Warfare live training showing us many of those photos below, that your Super Lynx ASW helicopter was hunting after that submarine.....but it was all fake....fake....lies....fraud....deception !

When South Africa is involved, seeing is NOT believing o ! Photos do lie in South Africa !
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Completely obliterated!!

Dead Soweto Mongoose clowns!

iblawi:
After the whole argument it is now clear that South African airforce and South African Navy have nothing special.

Your Gripens have no pilots
Your Oryx no pilot
Frigate no torpedoes, no ASW, no sailors.
Lynx just SAR.
Submarine only 1 can be at sea at a time.

What else does SAAF and SAN have? I guess camera men.

Am sure your have lot of camera men in your armed forces, and I think it's a basic requirement.

Camera men......... Lots and lots of camera men. That's the only requirement for service.


There Frigates are Obsolete.

iblawi:
I guess you are now confused. Take a break pls.

I am not confused.

These are the facts.

You Nigerians are making the same mistake you did when you accused the SAN of shooting at a fisherman. It is you not me that will end up with egg on your face.

agaugust:
[s]The fake ASW South African Super Lynx helicopters that you claimed were CONSTANTLY embarked on the Valour frigates.

Same helicopters that you Southies showed us photos some weeks ago flying above your submarine in a current drill you call ANTI-SUBMARINE WARFARE TRAINING that no navy can do in Sub Saharan Africa.

Yet those Soweto Lynx are ordinary patrol/rescue harmless and powerless over-priced helicopters !!!!!!

They say photos don't lie, but not in South Africa where photos lie everyday !

Only God knows how many fake things are inside the SANDF, SAN, SAAF military photos you have been posting here to deceive the world since 2010 that this forum started.

If Naija guys did not burst your weak navy's burble few days ago, the fraud and deception would have continued all because you have many photos of South African military equipment all over the internet.

You people were deceiving everybody here last month claiming fraudulently that South African navy was conducting Anti-Submarine Warfare live training showing us many of those photos below, that your Super Lynx ASW helicopter was hunting after that submarine.....but it was all fake....fake....lies....fraud....deception !

When South Africa is involved, seeing is NOT believing o ! Photos do lie in South Africa ![/s]
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Augustus we said no such thing, stop trying to create controversy where there is none.

Please quote where this was said

Facts are simple, we will never know what our Lynx has or what your Lynx has

What we do know is this: Our Lynx are operational and ultra-advanced, YOURS ARE NOT

agaugust:
Excuses excuses excuses all the time !!!!

Accept the fact :

""......Going back 10 years, SAAF 22 Squadron would be able to put six Oryx into the air while the squadron’s current
situation is such it has one, possibly two, of the rotary-winged workhorses available at any given time."

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40595&catid=74&Itemid=30"
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According to the NSRI

NSRI =/= SAAF

Wait for the SAAF to respond.

You jumped too quickly when SAN was accused of shooting at fisherman and you were shown to be the fool that you are.

You are jumping to quickly again and your foolish ways will be demonstrated again.

iblawi:
After the whole argument it is now clear that South African airforce and South African Navy have nothing special.

Your Gripens have no pilots
Your Oryx no pilot
Frigate no torpedoes, no ASW, no sailors.
Lynx just SAR.
Submarine only 1 can be at sea at a time.

What else does SAAF and SAN have? I guess camera men.

Am sure your have lot of camera men in your armed forces, and I think it's a basic requirement.

-Gripen have no pilots

14 last time a checked

- Your Oryx no pilot

Who the hell said that?

- Frigate no torpedoes, no ASW, no sailors.

First, we can put two out at a time for operations. 4 at a time for fleet review. So we have sailors.

Second, Valour Class has Sonar

Third, as the only Sub-Saharan nation to operate submarines, we dont need ASW (unless we are going to attack ourselves??)

Fourth, NIGERIA HAS NO OPERATIONAL FIRGATES

Wow, you really didnt think that one through

- Lynx just SAR

Nope.

Data-Link = TARGETTING PLATFORM

And again, your Lynxes ARE NOT OPERATIONAL

- Submarine only one at a time

Consult pictures to illistrate your foolishness.


SAN is decades ahead of the NN

We remain the only Navy in Sub-saharan Africa that can actually do what Navies are designed for - fight high intensity warfare

Henry120:
Camera men......... Lots and lots of camera men. That's the only requirement for service.


There Frigates are Obsolete.

Hahahahahah

Our frigates are obsolete?

Compared to Aradu?

Again, henry120 compares us to some imaginary standard and fails to apply it to his own armed forces

Pic related: Most powerfull warship in sub-saharan Africa... and we have 4 of them

patches689:
-Gripen have no pilots

14 last time a checked

- Your Oryx no pilot

Who the hell said that?

- Frigate no torpedoes, no ASW, no sailors.

First, we can put two out at a time for operations. 4 at a time for fleet review. So we have sailors.

Second, Valour Class has Sonar

Third, as the only Sub-Saharan nation to operate submarines, we dont need ASW (unless we are going to attack ourselves??)

Fourth, NIGERIA HAS NO OPERATIONAL FIRGATES

Wow, you really didnt think that one through

- Lynx just SAR

Nope.

Data-Link = TARGETTING PLATFORM

And again, your Lynxes ARE NOT OPERATIONAL

- Submarine only one at a time

Consult pictures to illistrate your foolishness.


SAN is decades ahead of the NN

We remain the only Navy in Sub-saharan Africa that can actually do what Navies are designed for - fight high intensity warfare

14 the last time you checked

Why not check it again.

Your Oryx lack pilots

Your Submarine pics are old not recent.

For Valour stop lying. And The last time I checked we haven't decommissioned NNS ARADU. so how is your valour the best in sub Sahara Africa? ARADU can still sink your four Frigate after refit. We also have more OPVs of Frigate size.

For Our Lynx give prove that they are not operational. We kept them in long storage. Your Navy will not attempt to bite more than they can shew.

Your lynx = our navy AW109

How is SAN decades ahead of NN?
How much are your 3 submarine together?
How long does it takes to build them?
In what way has your submarine being useful since you bought them?
If we find it necessary we will buy them.
I guess you don't know what to say again.
Your navy is struggling to survive currently so you are not ahead of us.

patches689:
Augustus we said no such thing, stop trying to create controversy where there is none.

Please quote where this was said

Facts are simple, we will never know what our Lynx has or what your Lynx has

What we do know is this: Our Lynx are operational and ultra-advanced, YOURS ARE NOT

Fact are simple you don't know what the lynx you post everyday has, but you know what our own lynx has. Don't worry about that anymore, We have proven ours and your. Your Lynxs are for search and rescue operation

We would soon tell you what your valour have too.

iblawi:
Fact are simple you don't know what the lynx you post everyday has, but you know what our own lynx has. Don't worry about that anymore, We have proven ours and your. Your Lynxs are for search and rescue operation

We would soon tell you what your valour have too.

1. We dont know what your lynxes have. All we know is that they are ancient 1980's version.

2. Your Lynxes are non-operational

So, with regard to heli-born ASW we are in the same boat.

And no, even without Sonar our Lynxes are not just SAR. They have datalinks - that means they can expand our radar bubble and be used for targetting

iblawi:
14 the last time you checked

Why not check it again.

Your Oryx lack pilots

Your Submarine pics are old not recent.

For Valour stop lying. And The last time I checked we haven't decommissioned NNS ARADU. so how is your valour the best in sub Sahara Africa? ARADU can still sink your four Frigate after refit. We also have more OPVs of Frigate size.

For Our Lynx give prove that they are not operational. We kept them in long storage. Your Navy will not attempt to bite more than they can shew.

Your lynx = our navy AW109

How is SAN decades ahead of NN?
How much are your 3 submarine together?
How long does it takes to build them?
In what way has your submarine being useful since you bought them?
If we find it necessary we will buy them.
I guess you don't know what to say again.
Your navy is struggling to survive currently so you are not ahead of us.

Why not check it again.

Just did

14 Gripen in the air

How many F7 do you have again?

Your Oryx lack the pilots

Citation please

Your Submarine pics are old not recent.

I guess you missed the date on the picture that clearly says 2015

For Valour stop lying. And The last time I checked we haven't decommissioned NNS ARADU. so how is your valour the best in sub Sahara Africa? ARADU can still sink your four Frigate after refit. We also have more OPVs of Frigate size.

1. Aradu has no qualified crew

2. Aradu stands almost no chance against a Valour class

3. Who cares about your 60 year old OPVs? Missiles sink them all the same


For Our Lynx give prove that they are not operational. We kept them in long storage. Your Navy will not attempt to bite more than they can shew.


Long term storage = non operational.


Ya dingus

Your lynx = our navy AW109

I am going to give you a moment to think about what you just said

I am then going to give you 3hrs to red about the Lynx and remove this statement

If you stand by that statement in 3hrs I am going to tare you a new arsehole

How is SAN decades ahead of NN?
How much are your 3 submarine together?
How long does it takes to build them?
In what way has your submarine being useful since you bought them?
If we find it necessary we will buy them.
I guess you don't know what to say again.
Your navy is struggling to survive currently so you are not ahead of us

1. Look at the age of your equipment androgen compare it to ours
2. About 40 years
3. Yes, useful in the fact that our navy is equipped for naval warfare with a force multiplier that even the British fear
4. O really? You will just wait for a war and then buy one, get it built and train a crew from scratch? Took san 6 years to do that - and we already had sub crews
5. Our navy is doing muuch better than yours thanks

iblawi:
14 the last time you checked

Why not check it again.

Your Oryx lack pilots

You sound more and more like @Augubugu

I just wanna settle this one first

First of all we currently operate 3 Oryx helos in the DRC.

Secondly we had 2 Oryx's and a A109 operating in Mozambique during flooding earlier this year doing rescue missions.
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-37560/

Just this alone de bunks your foolish claims that we don't have pilots

3 in DRC + 2 in Mozambique= 5pilots and Oryx platforms

DictatorZAR:
You sound more and more like @Augubugu

I just wanna settle this one first

First of all we currently operate 3 Oryx helos in the DRC.

Secondly we had 2 Oryx's and a A109 operating in Mozambique during flooding earlier this year doing rescue missions.
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-37560/

Just this alone de bunks your foolish claims that we don't have pilots

3 in DRC + 2 in Mozambique= 5pilots and Oryx platforms

Sharap DIp-Sh1t!!!

Your 22 Squadroun is struggling to put 2 Helicopters in the air. This is a fact.

Henry120:
Sharap Deep Sh1t!!!

Your 22 Squadroun is struggling to put 2 Helicopters in the air. This is a fact.

Its a fact?

Do you even know what a fact is?

Is 22 Squadron the only helicopter squadron in the SAAF?

Henry120:
Sharap Deep Sh1t!!!

Your 22 Squadroun is struggling to put 2 Helicopters in the air. This is a fact.

Says who you Henryetta

You struggle to put even 2 obsolete F-7 in the air.

Your Aradu has no crew and is in dry dock for over 4years now. We've been hearing about a refit for your relic grand pa for years now.

Don't make me laugh Henryetta do me a favour post the extracts that was posted on your very own pics thread about SAN Exercise Oxide 2015 and then you can talk shiit or should I do it for you.

You have a brown water navy that has never even test fired a missile in your lousy maritime history. Your tiny coastline is today the hotbed of world piracy.

Your creek dwelling navy are running around robbing your own oil companies.

patches689:
Its a fact?

Do you even know what a fact is?

Is 22 Squadron the only helicopter squadron in the SAAF?

Go cry to your DoD in Pretoria, not here in Nairaland. Soweto worthless Nation.

If you struggle to put 2 Helicopters in the air in 22 Squadron, one can only imagine how bad the situation is in the rest of your Helicopter Squadrouns.