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DictatorZAR:
Says who you Henryetta

You struggle to put even 2 obsolete F-7 in the air.

Your Aradu has no crew and is in dry dock for over 4years now. We've been hearing about a refit for your relic grand pa for years now.

Don't make me laugh Henryetta do me a favour post the extracts that was posted on your very own pics thread about SAN Exercise Oxide 2015 and then you can talk shiit or should I do it for you.

You have a brown water navy that has never even test fired a missile in your lousy maritime history. Your tiny coastline is today the hotbed of world piracy.

Your creek dwelling navy are running around robbing your own oil companies.

You seem a little butt-hurt ! Did I strike a nerve?

Henry120:
You seem a little butt-hurt ! Did I strike a nerve?

You seem a little lost for words did I expose your lies.

Oh before I forget this is what the rest of the SAAF is capable of. By the way this comes from your thread Henryetta
http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8350#p105298

Henry120:
Go cry to your DoD in Pretoria, not here in Nairaland. Soweto worthless Nation.

If you struggle to put 2 Helicopters in the air in 22 Squadron, one can only imagine how bad the situation is in the rest of your Helicopter Squadrouns.

Again.

Who said we struggle to put 2 helicopters into the air for 22 Squadron?

Is it a FACT

OR

Is it an ALLEGATION

Just like when you accused us of shooting at fishermen, you are jumping off half-cocked.

Henry120:
You seem a little butt-hurt ! Did I strike a nerve?

Congratulations on successful trolling!

You must be proud of yourself!

patches689:
Congratulations on successful trolling!

You must be proud of yourself!

Lmao Patches. Those Nai-gerians is really naiers

Patchesagain:
Why not check it again.

Just did

14 Gripen in the air

How many F7 do you have again?

Your Oryx lack the pilots

Citation please

Your Submarine pics are old not recent.

I guess you missed the date on the picture that clearly says 2015

For Valour stop lying. And The last time I checked we haven't decommissioned NNS ARADU. so how is your valour the best in sub Sahara Africa? ARADU can still sink your four Frigate after refit. We also have more OPVs of Frigate size.

1. Aradu has no qualified crew

2. Aradu stands almost no chance against a Valour class

3. Who cares about your 60 year old OPVs? Missiles sink them all the same


For Our Lynx give prove that they are not operational. We kept them in long storage. Your Navy will not attempt to bite more than they can shew.


Long term storage = non operational.


Ya dingus

Your lynx = our navy AW109

I am going to give you a moment to think about what you just said

I am then going to give you 3hrs to red about the Lynx and remove this statement

If you stand by that statement in 3hrs I am going to tare you a new arsehole

How is SAN decades ahead of NN?
How much are your 3 submarine together?
How long does it takes to build them?
In what way has your submarine being useful since you bought them?
If we find it necessary we will buy them.
I guess you don't know what to say again.
Your navy is struggling to survive currently so you are not ahead of us

1. Look at the age of your equipment androgen compare it to ours
2. About 40 years
3. Yes, useful in the fact that our navy is equipped for naval warfare with a force multiplier that even the British fear
4. O really? You will just wait for a war and then buy one, get it built and train a crew from scratch? Took san 6 years to do that - and we already had sub crews
5. Our navy is doing muuch better than yours thanks

I don't think you need another reply. You know that truth just trying to twist things. Your Airforce and Navy are struggling to survive. Hahahhaha

patches689:
Again.

Who said we struggle to put 2 helicopters into the air for 22 Squadron?

Is it a FACT

OR

Is it an ALLEGATION

Just like when you accused us of shooting at fishermen, you are jumping off half-cocked.

You have contacted another camera man for more photos. Anyway the pics mean nothing cos we have all those too.

Our super puma, mi17, hinds, gazelle and AW-109 have more than enough pilots.

We don't buy helicopters just to snap pictures but put them in various locations for effective use.

iblawi:
[s]I don't think you need another reply. You know that truth just trying to twist things. Your Airforce and Navy are struggling to survive. Hahahhaha[/s]

I take this to mean that you have no valid response.

iblawi:
After the whole argument it is now clear that South African airforce and South African Navy have nothing special.

Your Gripens have no pilots
Your Oryx no pilot
Frigate no torpedoes, no ASW, no sailors.
Lynx just SAR.
Submarine only 1 can be at sea at a time.

What else does SAAF and SAN have? I guess camera men.

Am sure your have lot of camera men in your armed forces, and I think it's a basic requirement.

September 2015

iblawi:
[s]
You have contacted another camera man for more photos. Anyway the pics mean nothing cos we have all those too.

Our super puma, mi17, hinds, gazelle and AW-109 have more than enough pilots.

We don't buy helicopters just to snap pictures but put them in various locations for effective use.[/s]

You dont have enough pilots

Hence the white boys flying your hinds

ssaengine:
September 2015

You don't expect me to believe the date. You guys have told many lies here.

patches689:
You dont have enough pilots

Hence the white boys flying your hinds

Guy I don't know this pics or helicopter. If you need pics of our hinds and pilot I will post it.

iblawi:
You don't expect me to believe the date. You guys have told many lies here.

Go tell the man who took the pics that he's lying.

http://www.saairforce.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2707&start=2895

patches689:
I take this to mean that you have no valid response.

I don't need to start saying what has been proven before.

iblawi:
Guy I don't know this pics or helicopter. If you need pics of our hinds and pilot I will post it.

From the Vice documentary

iblawi:
I don't need to start saying what has been proven before.

Problem is that it has never been proven.

- 14 Gripen pilots [citation provided]
- Oryx pilots [no citation ever provided that we lack them]
- Aradu v Valour Class [no point arguing, a ship that is non operational is not going to beat a ship that is]
- Submarines [pictures provided that we have more than enough crew]
- Lynx [better than what you have operational - which is your sh1tty Augusta's]

patches689:
Problem is that it has never been proven.

- 14 Gripen pilots [citation provided]
- Oryx pilots [no citation ever provided that we lack them]
- Aradu v Valour Class [no point arguing, a ship that is non operational is not going to beat a ship that is]
- Submarines [pictures provided that we have more than enough crew]
- Lynx [better than what you have operational - which is your sh1tty Augusta's]

I guess you won't want us to start cleaning up your lies again.

iblawi:
I guess you won't want us to start cleaning up your lies again.

Go ahead

Please, show me the lies.

I challenge you

iblawi:
I guess you won't want us to start cleaning up your lies again.

While you at it prove to me that we don't have more than 6 helos and pilots operating outside our borders to.

patches689:
Go ahead

Please, show me the lies.

I challenge you

You forget you have been having sleepless night for the pass 2 days.

patches689:
You dont have enough pilots
Hence the white boys flying your hinds

Why don't you show us his face?

Henry120:
Why don't you show us his face?

Because Vice showed us the back of his head.

Generally, blond hair and white skin is enough.

iblawi:
You forget you have been having sleepless night for the pass 2 days.

I sleep like a baby.

My confidence is unshakeable

You forget you have spent the last two days clutching at straws

patches689:
Problem is that it has never been proven.

- 14 Gripen pilots [citation provided]
- Oryx pilots [no citation ever provided that we lack them]
- Aradu v Valour Class [no point arguing, a ship that is non operational is not going to beat a ship that is]
- Submarines [pictures provided that we have more than enough crew]
- Lynx [better than what you have operational - which is your sh1tty Augusta's]

- You don't have 14 Gripen Pilots. You have never provided any evidence which supports the fact you have more than 9.

- You Don't have enough Super-Puma Pilots either. Your Airforce has been reduced to begging commercial civilian airliners for Pilots.


- Your Valour Frigates have an obsolete combat suite and cannot be described as modern. Technical specifications of your obsolete valour Frigates has been provided multiple times.

- You do not have enough crew to man your Submarines and only 2 Valour Frigates have their full compliment of crew. The SANDF has a severe skill shortage challenge.


- Your Lynx Helicopters are mere SARs. As is common place with the iidiots who run your Defence Force, they have yet again over-paid for mere SAR Helos.


The SANDF is hopelessly pathetic and incredibly inept.

patches689:
1. No, I am not comparing the size of our airforce to theirs. Please learn how to read.
2. "Your pilots run to the civies once the get trained because there is no iota of patriotism" WHICH IS THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM THE AMERICANS ARE HAVING YOU CLOWN

In future:
- read my post
- understand my post
- reply accordingly

Congratulations on making a fo.ol of yourself.

your airforce is running to airlines to poach pilots!! Thats a new low.
Lmao you have the guts to say USAF has the same problem. Unfortunately its the opposite. Bad news keeps popping out of SA everyweek, you'll never hear of this thrash happening in Nigeria. Admit it

patches689:
Because Vice showed us the back of his head.

Generally, blond hair and white skin is enough.

So, you don't have any evidence. Cool!







Beleaguered SAAF reaching out to SAA for assistance
Written by defenceWeb, Monday, 07 September 2015
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The point has apparently been reached where the SA Air Force (SAAF) is aware it cannot fulfill its defence obligations and the airborne arm of the SANDF has turned to pilots flying for the national carrier, SAA, for assistance.
The Afrikaans Sunday paper Rapport said it has a copy of a memorandum sent to South African Airways (SAA) pilots last week. It asks them to help out as reserve pilots at a “few SAAF squadrons”. The paper points out the “emergency call” came in the same week the National Sea Rescue Institute (NSRI) informed Parliament it could not depend on the air force in the event of a major shipping disaster, such as the Oceanos sinking in 1991.
Dr Cleeve Robertson, NSRI chief executive, told Parliament’s Portfolio Committee on Transport 22 Squadron can “at best” put a pair of Oryx helicopters in the air to assist in sea rescue. He put it that the AFB Ysterplaat-based unit could “hardly” be called a squadron any longer.
The squadron apparently does not have any pilots currently qualified to land on vessels at sea. This has been put down to the non-availability of a platform for practice. The SA Navy supply vessel, SAS Drakensberg, is the preferred platform for this training but she has been out of commission for about 18 months undergoing a major refit and accompanying maintenance. She is now back in the water but has yet to be commissioned as fully seaworthy following the refit.
According to Rapport the memorandum issued by SAA Flight Operations is looking for pilots to increase “capacity” at certain squadrons. It goes on to state timescales will be finalised in the near future and, as soon as further information is available, this will be circulated.


No aircraft types are stipulated in the memo but there are any number of former SAAF members, who flew helicopters, light and medium transport, VIP aircraft and even jets now working at the national carrier. The paper spoke to serving SAAF officers who indicated that, in addition to aircrews for 21 Squadron, the VIP unit, aircrew was also urgently needed for the SAAF’s maritime capability.
“This,” the unidentified pilot said, “is fast reaching crisis proportions and maritime search and rescue can be said to be in the process of dying”.
Going back 10 years, 22 Squadron would be able to put six Oryx into the air while the squadron’s current situation is such it has one, possibly two, of the rotary-winged workhorses available at any given time.

EVarn:
BOKO HARAM{ISWAP} FIGHTERS SURRENDER IN DROVES!!
SCHOOLS COMMENCE REOPENING IN MADAGALI AND ALL OVER BORNO!!
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http://saharareporters.com/2015/09/13/nigerian-troops-claim-boko-haram-terrorists-are-surrendering-droves
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wow first time saharareporter has something nice to say about nigeria

Henry120:
- You don't have 14 Gripen Pilots. You have never provided any evidence which supports the fact you have more than 9.

- You Don't have enough Super-Puma Pilots either. Your Airforce has been reduced to begging commercial civilian airliners for Pilots.


- Your Valour Frigates have an obsolete combat suite and cannot be described as modern. Technical specifications of your obsolete valour Frigates has been provided multiple times.

- You do not have enough crew to man your Submarines and only 2 Valour Frigates have their full compliment of crew. The SANDF has a severe skill shortage challenge.


- Your Lynx Helicopters are mere SARs. As is common place with the iidiots who run your Defence Force, they have yet again over-paid for mere SAR Helos.


The SANDF is hopelessly pathetic and incredibly inept.

- You don't have 14 Gripen Pilots. You have never provided any evidence which supports the fact you have more than 9.

Apart from the fact that we keep 14 Gripen operational. Who flys them? Do we have drone Gripen?


- You Don't have enough Super-Puma Pilots either. Your Airforce has been reduced to begging commercial civilian airliners for Pilots.

No where in the article you posted does it say that.

It amazes me how staggeringly disingenuous you can be

- Your Valour Frigates have an obsolete combat suite and cannot be described as modern. Technical specifications of your obsolete valour Frigates has been provided multiple times.

1. Allegations of a man who was so annihalated on the stand that he refused to continue his testimony. Not fact.

2. Obsolete in comparison to what?

- You do not have enough crew to man your Submarines and only 2 Valour Frigates have their full compliment of crew. The SANDF has a severe skill shortage challenge.

Problem is that we allways planned to only have 2 Valour Class fully operational at any one time

2 out of 3 subs conducting operations shows that we have all the crews we need

- Your Lynx Helicopters are mere SARs. As is common place with the iidiots who run your Defence Force, they have yet again over-paid for mere SAR Helos.

Again, completely disingenuous

They can be used to expand the radar bubble of the valour class and data can be transferred across datalink to allow them to be used to feed targetting data to the valour class

So no, not simple "SAR". Which ironically, is all that your helo's are capable of


Yet again, Henry120 talks a whole lot of nothing, displays stunning cognitive dissonance and applies double standards.

PetroDolla3:
This is what happens when you allow 5 year olds access to the Internet! A senseless mor0n in a hopelessly fvcked up armpit hell hole! a fvcking loser

Why are shitnigerians do damn stvpid? My dog has more sense than this fool boy, you are truly dumb

why dont you disprove him instead of acting like a large pile of dogshid

Henry120:
So, you don't have any evidence. Cool!







Beleaguered SAAF apparently reaching out to SAA for assistance
Written by defenceWeb, Monday, 07 September 2015
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The point has apparently been reached where the SA Air Force (SAAF) is aware it cannot fulfill its defence obligations and the airborne arm of the SANDF has turned to pilots flying for the national carrier, SAA, for assistance.
The Afrikaans Sunday paper Rapport said it has a copy of a memorandum sent to South African Airways (SAA) pilots last week. It asks them to help out as reserve pilots at a “few SAAF squadrons”. The paper points out the “emergency call” came in the same week the National Sea Rescue Institute (NSRI) informed Parliament it could not depend on the air force in the event of a major shipping disaster, such as the Oceanos sinking in 1991.
Dr Cleeve Robertson, NSRI chief executive, told Parliament’s Portfolio Committee on Transport 22 Squadron can “at best” put a pair of Oryx helicopters in the air to assist in sea rescue. He put it that the AFB Ysterplaat-based unit could “hardly” be called a squadron any longer.
The squadron apparently does not have any pilots currently qualified to land on vessels at sea. This has been put down to the non-availability of a platform for practice. The SA Navy supply vessel, SAS Drakensberg, is the preferred platform for this training but she has been out of commission for about 18 months undergoing a major refit and accompanying maintenance. She is now back in the water but has yet to be commissioned as fully seaworthy following the refit.
According to Rapport the memorandum issued by SAA Flight Operations is looking for pilots to increase “capacity” at certain squadrons. It goes on to state timescales will be finalised in the near future and, as soon as further information is available, this will be circulated.


No aircraft types are stipulated in the memo but there are any number of former SAAF members, who flew helicopters, light and medium transport, VIP aircraft and even jets now working at the national carrier. The paper spoke to serving SAAF officers who indicated that, in addition to aircrews for 21 Squadron, the VIP unit, aircrew was also urgently needed for the SAAF’s maritime capability.
“This,” the unidentified pilot said, “is fast reaching crisis proportions and maritime search and rescue can be said to be in the process of dying”.
Going back 10 years, 22 Squadron would be able to put six Oryx into the air while the squadron’s current situation is such it has one, possibly two, of the rotary-winged workhorses available at any given time.

1. Apparently

ap·par·ent·ly
əˈperən(t)lē/
adverb
-as far as one knows or can see.
"the child nodded, apparently content with the promise"

- used by speakers or writers to avoid committing themselves to the truth of what they are saying.
"foreign ministers met but apparently failed to make progress"

2. Highlight the sections that state we lack Oryx pilots

lionel4power:
your airforce is running to airlines to poach pilots!! Thats a new low.
Lmao you have the guts to say USAF has the same problem. Unfortunately its the opposite. Bad news keeps popping out of SA everyweek, you'll never hear of this thrash happening in Nigeria. Admit it

I have posted citations to show that the US not only has the exact same problem but is employing the exact same solution.

Stop wasting my time

iblawi:
A 12,7 gun for self-protection will also form part of the current role equipment while growth options for surface and sub-surface warfare had been allowed for. This could include anti-ship missiles, depth charges, torpedoes, and rockets.

Your lynx is just SAR with no ASW but growth options were allowed for. Too bad

lol searchlights