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patches689:
No, but the:
- Embedded GPS/Inertial Navigation System
- Telephonics Ocean-Eye radar
- Sysdel Sea Raven Electronic Support Measures (ESM) suite (which is used for passive target detection and identification)
- Denel Optronics Argos 410-M Electro Optic Sight System (with a forward-looking infra-red (FLIR) sensor and a day camera passive target identification and recording.)
- Sysdel electronic warfare suite
- a Saab Grintek Avitronics EW countermeasures system
- infrared exhaust suppression system
- electro-optical sighting system (EOSS)
- Tellumat an Identification Friend or Foe system.

While Target tracks and video images can be transmitted to the parent ship in real time using the Datalink unit supplied by Thales Advanced Engineering

Add about 30 million to the price.

And citations:

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/46/super-helicopter-300

http://www.agustawestland.com/product/helicopters/superlynx300

As you can see, the Lynx is hardly "just a SAR platform"

Show us proof that SAAF Lynx has all those hardware you listed, apart from radar and FLIR.

Your $ 40 million was purchased stripped of every lethal and high performance hardware, you were ripped off by your British masters again.

Your Lynx is not even armed with any weapon, it is a mere coast guard helicopter for patrol/rescue.

Finished !
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agaugust:
[s]It's easy to demolish the garbage you wrote above.

1. Nigerian army has won the Boko Haram war and the enemy is in disarray and 99% dead, many now surrender to the mighty Naija army !

http://neurope.eu/article/scores-of-boko-haram-fighters-surrender/

2. Your NAF news is old 2009, we did not even have any F-7 jet in those days, we have purchased over 70 new aircraft from 2010-2015

3. The Nigerian navy chief also said the ships faults were very minor and easy to fix :

"The committee also found that several navy vessels - including NNS Damisa and NNS Victory - and light patrol boats were broken down with minor mechanical problems which could be easily fixed".

Nigerian navy has about 400 vessels and 50% down means 200 still active, 5 times more than the entire South African navy.

All your 3 points are demolished in 3 minutes[/s]
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1. War against Boko Haram is not over. Defeating rag tag militia in your own country, after suffering massive defeats is not something worth bragging over anyway

2. Prove it

3. Fact is, majority of your fleet is non operational. You dont have over 400 vessles.

Stop wasting my time, stop wasting my time little boy!

agaugust:
Your Lynx is not armed with any weapon, it is a mere coast guard helicopter for patrol/rescue.

Finished !
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So the fact that it is a targetting platform for the Valour Class means nothing?

LOL

Ever heard the naval saying "whoever radiates first dies first"?

Think about what that means and think about how the Lynx fits into this

And I think the .50 ma'deuce counts as a weapon, dipshit

patches689:
So the fact that it is a targetting platform for the Valour Class means nothing?

LOL

Ever heard the naval saying "whoever radiates first dies first"?

Think about what that means and think about how the Lynx fits into this

And I think the .50 ma'deuce counts as a weapon, dipshit

Nigeria has weaponized armed AW 109 helicopter.

SAAF has basic rescue Lynx.

Show us proof that your SAAF Lynx has all the hardware you listed apart from radar and FLIR.

There is NO machine gun on your Lynx, it is said to be an option weapon which you DO NOT have.

Show me a SAAF Lynx armed with .50 cal machine gun , show me now !
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iblawi:
I believe Buhari is wise enough to understand the politics. Nigerians are wiser than what they think.
Do you remember this story https://www.naij.com/388982-army-captures-french-boko-haram-fighters-france-demands-them-back.html

Yes,I remember the story,of course,Cameroon eventually repartraited those terrorists back to France and the case died down just like that.No AU and UN investigation!,No Nigerian diplomatic intervention!.
PMB should demand a public apology from France for sponsoring Biafra and stoking civil war in the 1960's.Tough diplomatic decisions have to be made,everybody cannot be our friend.
I believe that Nigeria and France can cooperate in mutual bilateral trade and investment without necessarily keeping up a mirage of warmth.Just like Germany and Russia.

patches689:
Are the Lynx basic rescue helicopters? NO

What are they, you clown, what are they ?
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agaugust:
[s]Nigeria has weaponized armed AW 109 helicopter.

SAAF has basic rescue Lynx.

Show us proof that your SAAF Lynx has all the hardware you listed apart from radar and FLIR.

There is NO machine gun on your Lynx, it is said to be an option weapon which you DO NOT have.

Show me a SAAF Lynx armed with .50 cal machine gun , show me now ![/s]
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1. No, your AW is not weaponised

2. The list of equipment I provided shows it is not a basic resuce lynx. Stop wasting my time.

3. I have shown you proof, read the citations. Stop wasting my time.

4. Picture clearly shows our lynx armed with FN's .50 Cal M3M. For more pictures consult Henry120's thread

Stop wasting my time with childish arguments

agaugust:
What are they, you clown, what are they ?
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You tell me

patches689:
- Embedded GPS/Inertial Navigation System
- Telephonics Ocean-Eye radar
- Sysdel Sea Raven Electronic Support Measures (ESM) suite (which is used for passive target detection and identification)
- Denel Optronics Argos 410-M Electro Optic Sight System (with a forward-looking infra-red (FLIR) sensor and a day camera passive target identification and recording.)
- Sysdel electronic warfare suite
- a Saab Grintek Avitronics EW countermeasures system
- infrared exhaust suppression system
- electro-optical sighting system (EOSS)
- Tellumat an Identification Friend or Foe system.
http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/46/super-helicopter-300
http://www.agustawestland.com/product/helicopters/superlynx300
As you can see, the Lynx is hardly "just a SAR platform"

I see you still havent figured out the role of the lynx in relation to the saying "whoever radiates first dies first"

DictatorZAR:
What is your rust bucket A109's worth that has even less capabilities then the SAN Lynx 300

What makes Nigerian AW 109 a rust bucket ? They are brand new helicopters we purchased around year 2003.

Are you drunk?

patches689:
No, but the:
- Embedded GPS/Inertial Navigation System
- Telephonics Ocean-Eye radar
- Sysdel Sea Raven Electronic Support Measures (ESM) suite (which is used for passive target detection and identification)
- Denel Optronics Argos 410-M Electro Optic Sight System (with a forward-looking infra-red (FLIR) sensor and a day camera passive target identification and recording.)
- Sysdel electronic warfare suite
- a Saab Grintek Avitronics EW countermeasures system
- infrared exhaust suppression system
- electro-optical sighting system (EOSS)
- Tellumat an Identification Friend or Foe system.

While Target tracks and video images can be transmitted to the parent ship in real time using the Datalink unit supplied by Thales Advanced Engineering

Add about 30 million to the price.

And citations:

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/46/super-helicopter-300

http://www.agustawestland.com/product/helicopters/superlynx300

As you can see, the Lynx is hardly "just a SAR platform"

Am sure you want to start another argument that will prove you a liar again.

No site stated all this jargon for SAN Lynx.

iblawi:
Am sure you want to start another argument that will prove you a liar again.

No site stated all this jargon for SAN Lynx.

Read the citations

Stop wasting my time with this childishness

DictatorZAR:
Your own navy can't even properly protect a small maritime area of only 822km against piracy yet you wanna compare to SA that has a 2800km maritime area.

Our Lynx is way more advance then anything in service anywhere in sub saharan navies and that's a fact.

Nigeria is an embarrassment to africa.

Nigeria saves Angola and protects Ghana down to your SADC region when they are attacked by pirates in deep ocean, they call our navy not South Africa.

Your SAAF Lynx is far far inferior to NAF ATR-42 mighty Surveyor.

Both cost the same basic price before any upgrade or extra hardware !

Super Lynx SAAF $ 40 million

ATR-42 Surveyor NAF $ 40 million

You see how foolish the whole nation of South Africa is? Britain ripped you off again with those over-priced Lynx patrol/rescue helicopters
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agaugust:
Nigeria saves Angola and protects Ghana down to your SADC region when they are attacked by pirates in deep ocean, they call our navy not South Africa.

Your SAAF Lynx is far far inferior to NAF ATR-42 mighty Surveyor.

Both cost the same basic price before any upgrade or extra hardware !

Super Lynx SAAF $ 40 million

ATR-42 Surveyor NAF $ 40 million

You see how foolish the whole nation of South Africa is? Britain ripped you off again with those over-priced Lynx patrol/rescue helicopters
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hahaha lol abeg help me tell them again so that they will know how foolish they are.

agaugust:
Nigeria saves Angola and protects Ghana down to your SADC region when they are attacked by pirates in deep ocean, they call our navy not South Africa.

Your SAAF Lynx is far far inferior to NAF ATR-42 mighty Surveyor.

Both cost the same basic price before any upgrade or extra hardware !

Super Lynx SAAF $ 40 million

ATR-42 Surveyor NAF $ 40 million

You see how foolish the whole nation of South Africa is? Britain ripped you off again with those over-priced Lynx patrol/rescue helicopters
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1. You didnt save angola. You arrested them in your waters.

2. Lol, brining up the Surveyor? Wow, you must be desperate! Anyway, Apples and Oranges

3. Still sticking with the Lynx SAR argument? even in the face of all this evidence? Pathetic

ATR vs incomplete lynx

patches689:
1. No, your AW is not weaponised

2. The list of equipment I provided shows it is not a basic resuce lynx. Stop wasting my time.

3. I have shown you proof, read the citations. Stop wasting my time.

4. Picture clearly shows our lynx armed with FN's .50 Cal M3M. For more pictures consult Henry120's thread

Stop wasting my time with childish arguments

NAF has weaponized our AW 109.

Oh I see, your Lynx carries only a small machine gun.....Nigerian Gazelle, Eurocopter, AW 109, Super Puma, all carry Machine Guns too !

Our AW 109 costs $10 million, your $40 million Lynx carries the same one machine gun like our Gazelle that costs $ 2 million

You South Africans must be foolish spenders of money

[size=15pt]Irony: a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.

Nigerians try to paint the Lynx as an SAR platform... turns out it isnt

Nigerians forget that their only operational Maritime helo is LITERALLY only capable of SAR

This is hilarious[/size]

iblawi:
ATR vs incomplete lynx

Apples and Oranges

agaugust:
NAF has weaponized our AW 109.

Oh I see, your Lynx carries only a small machine gun.....Nigerian Gazelle, Eurocopter, AW 109, Super Puma, all carry Machine Guns too !

Our AW 109 costs $10 million, your $40 million Lynx carries the same one machine gun like our Gazelle that costs $ 2 million

You South Africans must be foolish spenders of money

1. Not a maritime platform

2. Do they have:

- Embedded GPS/Inertial Navigation System
- Telephonics Ocean-Eye radar
- Sysdel Sea Raven Electronic Support Measures (ESM) suite (which is used for passive target detection and identification)
- Denel Optronics Argos 410-M Electro Optic Sight System (with a forward-looking infra-red (FLIR) sensor and a day camera passive target identification and recording.)
- Sysdel electronic warfare suite
- a Saab Grintek Avitronics EW countermeasures system
- infrared exhaust suppression system
- electro-optical sighting system (EOSS)
- Tellumat an Identification Friend or Foe system.

Answer: NO

Thats why yours costs $10 million and ours $33 million

patches689:
1. Not a maritime platform

2. Do they have:

- Embedded GPS/Inertial Navigation System
- Telephonics Ocean-Eye radar
- Sysdel Sea Raven Electronic Support Measures (ESM) suite (which is used for passive target detection and identification)
- Denel Optronics Argos 410-M Electro Optic Sight System (with a forward-looking infra-red (FLIR) sensor and a day camera passive target identification and recording.)
- Sysdel electronic warfare suite
- a Saab Grintek Avitronics EW countermeasures system
- infrared exhaust suppression system
- electro-optical sighting system (EOSS)
- Tellumat an Identification Friend or Foe system.

Answer: NO

Thats why yours costs $10 million and ours $40 million

Show us proof that SAAF Lynx has all those things you listed above apart from radar and FLIR.

We know you got a stripped down Lynx at over-loaded cost price

agaugust:

Show us proof that SAAF Lynx has all those things you listed above apart from radar and FLIR.

We know you got a stripped down Lynx at over-loaded cost price

http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/46/super-helicopter-300
http://www.agustawestland.com/product/helicopters/superlynx300

Stop wasting my time with your childishness

agaugust:
NAF has weaponized our AW 109.

No you have not

Just stop dude, have some dignity, act like an adult for just once.

patches689:
http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/aircraft/46/super-helicopter-300
http://www.agustawestland.com/product/helicopters/superlynx300

Stop wasting my time with your childishness

Garbage !!!

Your first source is a mere forum, not the real SAAF website, it's a private forum you dundeeee brain

The second source is a the general source for a fully equipped Super Lynx, that is why it includes missiles and torpedoes which SAAF Lynx does NOT have. Show me your own SAAF Lynx hardware, show me you have ESM, EW, etc that you copy pasted from the general specs of well armed Super Lynx.

Yours is a stripped down basic patrol/rescue version you thief !
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iblawi:
ATR vs incomplete lynx

Augubugu offspring why are you shifting goalposts now that you lost the Lynx vs A109 argument.

I can do tat too

Tell me how will your ATR attack a ship when we can do this.


You see very easy to change goal posts

patches689:
No you have not

Just stop dude, have some dignity, act like an adult for just once.

NAF has weaponized Agusta AW 109 helicopters.

"Two trailers suspected to be carrying logistics support to members of the Boko Haram Terrorist (BHT) sect have been intercepted and destroyed by the Nigerian Air Force Agusta helicopter on armed reconnaissance mission around the Nigeria-Cameroon border, Air Commodore Dele Alonge Director of Public Relations & Information Nigerian Air Force said in a statement on Sunday."

http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/08/24/nigerian-air-force-destroys-two-boko-haram-trucks/
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DictatorZAR:
Augubugu offspring why are you shifting goalposts now that you lost the Lynx vs A109 argument.

I can do tat too

Tell me how will your ATR attack a ship when we can do this.


You see very easy to change goal posts

Umkhonto IR
This can only go 15km max. Atr 42 don't need to get close. Mumu
It seems you don't know about atr 42mp. Your Lynx can't shoot anything either. Stop making look like you have something special.
Your search and rescue
lynx.
I didn't shift any goal post I only compare prices of the two.

agaugust:
Garbage !!!

Your first source is a mere forum, not the real SAAF website, it's a private forum you dundeeee brain

The second source is a the general source for a fully equipped Super Lynx, that is why it includes missiles and torpedoes which SAAF Lynx does NOT have. Show me your own SAAF Lynx hardware, show me you have ESM, EW, etc that you copy pasted from the general specs of well armed Super Lynx.

Yours is a stripped down basic patrol/rescue version you thief !
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Here now go and read
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/91157/south-african-super-lynx-300-officially-handed-over.html

agaugust:
It's easy to demolish the garbage you wrote above.

1. Nigerian army has won the Boko Haram war and the enemy is in disarray and 99% dead, many now surrender to the mighty Naija army !

http://neurope.eu/article/scores-of-boko-haram-fighters-surrender/

2. Your NAF news is old 2009, we did not even have any F-7 jet in those days, we have purchased over 70 new aircraft from 2010-2015

3. The Nigerian navy chief also said the ships faults were very minor and easy to fix :

"The committee also found that several navy vessels - including NNS Damisa and NNS Victory - and light patrol boats were broken down with minor mechanical problems which could be easily fixed".

Nigerian navy has about 400 vessels and 50% down means 200 still active, 5 times more than the entire South African navy.

All your 3 points are demolished in 3 minutes
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BOKO HARAM IS STILL ALIVE AND KICKING. WAIT AND SEE IT RISE FROM NOWHERE OUT OF NOTHING.

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Msauza:
BOKO HARAM IS STILL ALIVE AND KICKING. WAIT AND SEE IT RISE FROM NOWHERE OUT OF NOTHING.

Thank God you know they are nowhere. Most of the boko haram left are in Cameroon.

Msauza:
BOKO HARAM IS STILL ALIVE AND KICKING. WAIT AND SEE IT RISE FROM NOWHERE OUT OF NOTHING.

RHINO POACHERS ARE GROWING STRONGER EVERYDAY IN MANDELA'S NATION, KEEP LOOKING WHILE THEY RIDICULE SANDF ON ARMY LAND
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