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patches689:
Where does it say in that link anything you have claimed?

You claimed landings that were bigger than falklands

Citation please

And FYI - your citation states that your landing during the war in biafra was a DISASTER

Quote where it said that it was a disaster, quote it you fraud !

Bonny landing was the end of Biafra, simple.

3rd marine is a whole army division, you don't know what division size is?

Britain was in Falkland at brigade size only.

Dummy, your Soweto country has ZERO capacity to do amphibious landing today and in 100 years to come
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agaugust:
1. Your own photo shows submarine radar is on the conning tower. # Suicide Comment

2. Show me a citation that your Super Lynx radar can detect objects on the sea

3. For what? Combat simulation?

If your submarine dares to use radar, it moves closer to the surface and becomes more vulnerable, it also begins to emit radar waves and it reveals it's exact position to enemy aircraft radar from 407 km away, the ATR-42 in PASSIVE MODE ESM will analyse your radar emissions and even jam it, our passive mode won't let your submarine know the ATR-42 is wrecking your radar operation ! Suicide move !

When my MPA/ISR aircraft finds your submarine snorkel, I will call in my missile drones or jets and helicopters to destroy your submarine, your sub is desperate for oxygen, that is why it is snorkelling for survival, that will be written in the autopsy report of it's untimely death
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1. Look at the picture again. Stop wasting my time with childishness

2. Why are you avoiding my question: You said the ATR-42 can detect an object the size of a snorkel. Prove it

3. Irrelevant because you wont get with FLIR range.

Nope. Sub detects the ATR 42, or, it realizes that its radar is being messed with and dives. You think that the sub will wait until they have no time underwater left to snorkel? They will be constantly snorkeling and diving. That way, upon detection they will dive and have enough reserves left to maneuver.

This is all pointless, because until you start posting citations about ATR 42 detection ranges of snorkels and the RCS of a sub snorkel... you have no argument as all you are doing is guessing

agaugust:
Quote where it said that it was a disaster, quote it you fraud !

Bonny landing was the end of Biafra, simple.

3rd marine is a whole army division, you don't know what division size is?

Britain was in Falkland at brigade size only.

Dummy, your Soweto country has ZERO capacity to do amphibious landing today and in 100 years to come
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The 2DIV assault river crossing of the River Niger to take Onitsha on 9 October 1967 was under then Lt. Col. Murtala Mohammed. Using Inland Waterway ferries, and preceded by a three to four day artillery and air bombardment, on the night of October 8, 1967 two poorly trained and equipped federal battalions landed on the shores of Onitsha near the market. Ferries bringing reinforcements (including Panhard armored vehicles and ammo) to them were abandoned midstream by scared civilian ferry pilots. It became a turkey shoot with panicky federal troops roaming around in a discoordinated fashion. The Onitsha landing disaster took a great toll on Federal troops due to the ad hoc manner the troops embarked on the operation without adequate watermanship skill and air support. Two more attempts at a frontal river crossing were made before efforts to take Onitsha from Asaba were finally abandoned. In January 1968, after the abortive attempts to capture Onitsha from Asaba, Murtala moves up the Niger, crosses it at Idah and advances down to Awka and Onitsha, and captured Onitsha on 21 March 1968.

1. It was a river crossing
2. only 2 battalions were involved

Your own source killed your argument!! thanks for the help!!

In future, read what you are about to post

patches689:
1. So your naval stragergy is to hide in port and let us own your oceans?

2. Only one sub at a time?? Pic related

3. How will the NAF sink it??

How will SAAF attack a surface target?

Two subs sailing does not mean full combat crew on both, a simple sailing team can drive a submarine around for photo shows.

We know South Africa has a lot of fake things, like the Super Lynx ASW helicopters you have been photo showing us here for the past 5 years actually have ZERO ASW equipment or weapons inside them, you were showing us empty barrels and claiming it was full of wine !

Fraudsters !

agaugust:
[s]How will SAAF attack a surface target?

Two subs sailing does not mean full combat crew on both, a simple sailing team can drive a submarine around for photo shows.

We know South Africa has a lot of fake things, like the Super Lynx ASW helicopters you have been photo showing us here for the past 5 years actually have ZERO ASW equipment or weapons inside them, you were showing us empty barrels and claiming it was full of wine !

Fraudsters ![/s]

How will SAAF attack a surface target? JDAMS.

You want to say that they dont have a combat crew? Citations please

Suck it faggit, 2 SAN submarines conducting operations during Ex Young Eagle

((((((BOOOOOMMMMM)))))

FighterPilot:
I think we equally have to agree with your reliable source that its range on maximum is a mere 16 km.


You trusting BLOGS too much over reliable sources

Where does it say 16km range for PL-9C ? Quote it.

FighterPilot:
Our navy has over 15000 manpower and can even operate 20 submarine at the same time.

Look at this lair your Navy is far less than 10,000. Please citation needed. Fraud alert

patches689:
How will SAAF attack a surface target? JDAMS.

You want to say that they dont have a combat crew? Citations please

Suck it faggit, 2 SAN submarines conducting operations during Ex Young Eagle

((((((BOOOOOMMMMM)))))

How will SAAF attack a surface target?

Two subs sailing does not mean full combat crew on both, a simple sailing team can drive a submarine around for photo shows.

We know South Africa has a lot of fake things, like the Super Lynx ASW helicopters you have been photo showing us here for the past 5 years actually have ZERO ASW equipment or weapons inside them, you were showing us empty barrels and claiming it was full of wine !

((((((BOOOOOMMMMM)))))

Fraudsters !

agaugust:
Where does it say 16km range for PL-9C ? Quote it.

Its range is 500m minimum and 16km maximum
http://chinese-military-aviation..ca/p/missiles-i.html

Fvcking wrecked

Bookmarked for future use!!

patches689:
No, Janes is respected. Military Factory is a passion project and not on the same level as Janes.

If Janes does not publish it then that is because no one knows.

3 websites gives 3 different service ceilings for same drone, so who is correct ?

agaugust:
How will SAAF attack a surface target?

Two subs sailing does not mean full combat crew on both, a simple sailing team can drive a submarine around for photo shows.

We know South Africa has a lot of fake things, like the Super Lynx ASW helicopters you have been photo showing us here for the past 5 years actually have ZERO ASW equipment or weapons inside them, you were showing us empty barrels and claiming it was full of wine !

((((((BOOOOOMMMMM)))))

Fraudsters !

How will SAAF attack surface target? JDAMS

You want to claim they dont have a crew? Citation please

Photographic evidence of 2 SAN submarines conducting operations during Exercise Young Eagle!!!

((((((BBBBOOOOOOOOMMMMMM)))))

patches689:
Its range is 500m minimum and 16km maximum
http://chinese-military-aviation..ca/p/missiles-i.html

Fvcking wrecked

Bookmarked for future use!!

Fool, your Soweto skull is half empty, you cannot see it says PL-9 has new version called PL-9C with higher performance,

"PL-9 IR-guided missile was first developed in the late 80s based on PL-8/Python-3 technology and is for export only. It has an all-aspect InSb seeker and a radio fuse. Its range is 500m minimum and 16km maximum. Speed is Mach 3.5 and load is 40g. Its forward control fins look similar to those of AIM-9L (double delta). The latest variant of PL-9 is called PL-9C with improved multi-band IR seeker and a new programmable digital processor giving it a greater IRCCM capability and higher killing probability. Its range is also increased to 20km. "

http://chinese-military-aviation..ca/p/missiles-i.html

# KILLING @PATCHES JOY DAILY
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agaugust:
3 websites gives 3 different service ceilings for same drone, so who is correct ?

None

patches689:
None

Means the ceiling is UNKNOWN, proves me right.

agaugust:
Fool, your Soweto skull is half empty, you cannot see it says PL-9 has new version called PL-9C with higher performance,

"PL-9 IR-guided missile was first developed in the late 80s based on PL-8/Python-3 technology and is for export only. It has an all-aspect InSb seeker and a radio fuse. Its range is 500m minimum and 16km maximum. Speed is Mach 3.5 and load is 40g. Its forward control fins look similar to those of AIM-9L (double delta). The latest variant of PL-9 is called PL-9C with improved multi-band IR seeker and a new programmable digital processor giving it a greater IRCCM capability and higher killing probability. Its range is also increased to 20km. "

http://chinese-military-aviation..ca/p/missiles-i.html

# KILLING @PATCHES JOY DAILY
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So now its 20km?

I thought you said it was 22km??

So now it has the same range as the A-darter?

lolly lolzy lol

agaugust:
Means the ceiling is UNKNOWN, proves me right.

No

Because you said you know the ceiling

Which you dont.

Proves that you are talking kak as usual

patches689:
The 2DIV assault river crossing of the River Niger to take Onitsha on 9 October 1967 was under then Lt. Col. Murtala Mohammed. Using Inland Waterway ferries, and preceded by a three to four day artillery and air bombardment, on the night of October 8, 1967 two poorly trained and equipped federal battalions landed on the shores of Onitsha near the market. Ferries bringing reinforcements (including Panhard armored vehicles and ammo) to them were abandoned midstream by scared civilian ferry pilots. It became a turkey shoot with panicky federal troops roaming around in a discoordinated fashion. The Onitsha landing disaster took a great toll on Federal troops due to the ad hoc manner the troops embarked on the operation without adequate watermanship skill and air support. Two more attempts at a frontal river crossing were made before efforts to take Onitsha from Asaba were finally abandoned. In January 1968, after the abortive attempts to capture Onitsha from Asaba, Murtala moves up the Niger, crosses it at Idah and advances down to Awka and Onitsha, and captured Onitsha on 21 March 1968.

1. It was a river crossing
2. only 2 battalions were involved

Your own source killed your argument!! thanks for the help!!

In future, read what you are about to post

100% wrong

1. Bonny landing was 1968 NOT 1967

2. Bonny amphibious landing is Operation OAU

3. Bonny ops was led by Frigate NNS Nigeria, she does not sail on a river with her massive size

4. Bonny landing was led by Col. Adekunle NOT Lt.col Murtala

5. The 3rd marines are a full division size not battalion

5. 50 million South Africans are too brain dull to write correct facts
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patches689:
Its range is 500m minimum and 16km maximum
http://chinese-military-aviation..ca/p/missiles-i.html

Fvcking wrecked

Bookmarked for future use!!

That is a blog. Wise up. PL9 is different from PL-9C

agaugust:
100% wrong

1. Bonny landing was 1968 NOT 1967

2. Bonny amphibious landing is Operation OAU

3. Bonny ops was led by Frigate NNS Nigeria, she does not sail on a river with her massive size

4. Bonny landing was led by Col. Adekunle NOT Lt.col Murtala

5. 50 million South Africans are too brain dull to write correct facts
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So why then did you post a source that does not provide details of the Bonny landing?

Are you being deceitfull again? Saying things you cant prove?

Provide us with information of this landing

#Wrecked

iblawi:
That is a blog. Wise up.

So you agree that augbugs source is unreliable?

patches689:
No

Because you said you know the ceiling

Which you dont.

Proves that you are talking kak as usual

Quote where I said I know the ceiling.

It was Msauza who claims to know it when I said it is classified.

You know every South African is a dullard.

agaugust:
Quote where I said I know the ceiling.

It was Msauza who claims to know it when I said it is classified.

You know every South African is a dullard.

So you dont know the ceiling?

patches689:
So you agree that augbugs source is unreliable?

PL-9 is different from PL-9C I didn't even open it before.

patches689:
So now its 20km?

I thought you said it was 22km??

So now it has the same range as the A-darter?

lolly lolzy lol

A-Darter is 19 km.

PL-9C effective range is 22 km max range 35 km

patches689:
So you dont know the ceiling?

Do you know it?

I declared yesterday that it is classified.

agaugust:
A-Darter is 19 km.

PL-9C effective range is 22 km max range 35 km

A-Darter range is 20km
Jackson, Paul, ed. (2004). All the World’s Aircraft 2004–2005. Surrey, UK: Jane’s. p. 810. ISBN 0-7106-2614-2.

According to your source PLC-9 range is also 20km

Game
Over

agaugust:
Do you know it?

I declared yesterday that it is classified.

So if you dont know it

How then are you making statements about its ability to engage a Valour Class?

patches689:
1. Look at the picture again. Stop wasting my time with childishness

2. Why are you avoiding my question: You said the ATR-42 can detect an object the size of a snorkel. Prove it

3. Irrelevant because you wont get with FLIR range.

Nope. Sub detects the ATR 42, or, it realizes that its radar is being messed with and dives. You think that the sub will wait until they have no time underwater left to snorkel? [size=13pt] They will be constantly snorkeling and diving [/size]. That way, upon detection they will dive and have enough reserves left to maneuver.

This is all pointless, because until you start posting citations about ATR 42 detection ranges of snorkels and the RCS of a sub snorkel... you have no argument as all you are doing is guessing

Thanks for confirming that your submarine will not stay long underwater, they will be constantly part surfacing to snorkel and be constantly detected by enemy and constantly available to be killed and sunk

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patches689:
So if you dont know it

How then are you making statements about its ability to engage a Valour Class?

I said if it can fly at 8.5 km or you have brain defect?

agaugust:
Thanks for confirming that your submarine will not stay long underwater, they will be constantly part surfacing to snorkel and be constantly detected by enemy and constantly available to be killed and sunk

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Prove that it can be detected while snorkeling

FighterPilot:
So what do you call denel CIWS.

Is that CIWS a 76mm main gun ?

agaugust:
I said if it can fly at 8.5 km or you have brain defect?

But you said it was classified?

So, if you dont know

How can you say it can fly at 8,5km?