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CAPTIVATOR:
You mean animals will be ressurected ?



Really ? The whole creation , sun , moon , stars , the billions of galaxies . the planets mars , jupiter , saturn , angels

You need help bro .

Jeromejnr:
Point: When Adam sinned, because he was the god of this world and all things were subjected to him, all of creation (animals inclusive) also fell.

cold:
Why do mosquito bites cause malaria? Is it because Adam sinned too?

Jeromejnr:
You not a beleiver in the supernatural. So you no go understand.

cold:
Can you please answer the question? Or you can be honest and say you don't know.

starlingslimnet:
The Sons of God will be ressurected and the whole creation restored to their Glory.

Jeromejnr:
In fact let me help you more with your explanation.

Gen 4: Cain brings an offering up to the Lord from the fruit of the ground and God rejects it because He had caused the ground.

Abel brings a sheep and God respects it.

Now, according to the topic: why do animals die if they didn't eat the fruit.

Firstly, we know diseases didn't occur until after man's sin. Now animals today die naturally because of diseases. Well, did they eat of the fruit? Why are they partaking in diseases?

Secondly, Animals yes could be killed by man as one was even killed by God to provide clothing.

The same way Adam could also strangle Eve or stab her with a knife and then she would die. Or bleed to death.

But He couldn't do that because even though that was possible he had not yet known the knowledge of evil.

Or before the fall, would have man's flesh be impenetrable from a knife attack?

Point: Animals can also die of diseases naturally because of Man's sin. Or you want to tell me they could have died of diseases there in the garden.

If you do so, bring forth your strong reasons.

starlingslimnet:
The Sons of God will be ressurected and the whole creation restored to their Glory.

CAPTIVATOR:
The bible never said animals have no disease in the garden of Eden , but we are told that unlike man whom is created to live forever , animals are " born Naturally to be caught and destroyed " 2 pet 2:12 nature create them to be caught and destroyed . Their desruction might come in any form which include sickness that leads to death . Or been caught by the WILD beasts of the field ( carnivoures animals )

CAPTIVATOR:
@ Jessicha

MizJanet:
So animals that have decayed wont be resurected ?
@ captivator , come o your friend has remove animals sharply

CAPTIVATOR:
Man will be restored to their glory through the ressurection 1 cor 15 ; how will animals be restored to freedom and Glory of the children of God ?

Jeromejnr:
Assumptions!

starlingslimnet:
A full Yes. Not only animals the whole creation will be redeemed

Jessicha:
Ok , how will animals be redeemed ?

starlingslimnet:
That dear I don't know Tne same way I don't know how Christ walk on water or turn that water into wine But God said he will make all things a new and redeemed the while creation setting them free. How he will do it I don't know but we can always Trust God for His words. That is what makes Faith in Christ a unique and hard path.

Jessicha:
I like your humility , but yet I know Jesus died for humans not animals . ( john 3:16 ) therefore the idea of redeeming animals through ressurection doesnt work with Jesus sacrifice . I know there is what the bible call RE - CREATION , new animals might be created though

Jeromejnr:
Yes new animals will be created that will be void of diseases.

That's redemption. As they join in the glorious liberty of the Sons.

You can't tell me that animals God created in the garden that He saw and called good could also die of diseases.

CAPTIVATOR:
The bible never said animals have no disease in the garden of Eden , but we are told that unlike man whom is created to live forever , animals are " born Naturally to be caught and destroyed " 2 pet 2:12 nature create them to be caught and destroyed . Their desruction might come in any form which include sickness that leads to death . Or been caught by the WILD beasts of the field ( carnivoures animals )

Jessicha:
As pointed out by captvator , They are to die and anything can cause their death/destruction , they are naturally born to be destoyed not live forever . ( 2 pet 2:12 )

Jeromejnr:
If destroyed by someone. As that scripture says
. As Adam and Eve also could be destroyed.

The question you asked was why do they die. Implying natural causes.

Jessicha:
by someone , really ? Pls show me if destroyed BY SOMEONE in that verse .



" NATURALLY born to be caught and destroyed" 2pet 2:12

Princewell2012:
Yea, animals dies simply because they also partook of the sin of Adam.

Jessicha:
If they partook of the sin , that make them sinners . You mean animals are sinners too ?

Jeromejnr:
Is the earth also a sinner?

Jessicha:
Yes it is , u know the earth also dies . rubbish

Jeromejnr:
Caught by humans not diseases.

BTW, animals before the fall were herbivorous not one was carnivorous. Gen 1:30.

So that should tell you something.

CAPTIVATOR:
And God went on to say : let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds , domestic animals and moving animal and WILD beast of the earth according to its kind " Genesis 1:24 , which kind of animals are called wild beast , carnivorous or herbivorous ? Why is there teeth specially tailored to tear meat ?

Adam named a particular animal LION, its hebrew meaning refers to violence . Why would he give such a name if he hadnt studied its violent attitude ? He also name some birds like hawk in relation to their ability to catch prey .

Gen 1:30 said i give you plants as food ! Not a decree that only plant you must eat .

Jeromejnr:
No 1. God says what He meant and meant what He says. Don't twist the scripture. He said all should eat herbs it was later after the fall He gave the permission to Noah and his family to eat meat.

No 2. You mention wild beast. Why don't you do a research yourself on google and see that wild beasts was never mentioned in the original Hebrew text.

That was added by the translator to point to the animals we know of today.

Let me help you with one link.
http://biblehub.com/lexicon/genesis/1-24.htm