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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:11pm On Sep 19, 2015
Henry120:
Aren't your western equipments supposed to be invincible?

Why are they falling like a pack of cards in Yemen?
Are you being serious?

You know that the Saudi backed coalition is winning? Right?

Dude, some MRAP's and old Abrams got knocked out... who the fvck cares?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:14pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
oohhhh nononononononononononononononono


T-14 is still under R&grin

Hence why they havent shown it off in anything other than a parade (and it failed during the parade)

T90MS is the latest and best Russia has to offer

T-14 is nothing special anyway, no DU layer like the Abrams and the unmanned turret is nothing new. It has a long way to go before it can be compared to the latest models of its counterpats such as the Type 10 or K2.
Why are you taking so much palm wine?


There is a 40 mins documentary on the T-14, an excerpt was posted in the photo-sharing thread.

I have the full 1 hour plus parade video, I didn't see a T-14 or any other vehicle for that matter failing during the parade.

Have you stopped taking your meds?


We've all seen the awesome Abrams tank cook off in Yemen. That's not a tank( Abrams) you should be bragging about.


The T-14 carries advanced armour, counter missile system and AESA radar. No Tank currently plying the face of the planet can match that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:17pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
Are you being serious?

You know that the Saudi backed coalition is winning? Right?

Dude, some MRAP's and old Abrams got knocked out... who the fvck cares?
"Who's talking about winning?"........ You still drunk on palm wine?


Question is, why are "high quality" western techs falling like cards in Yemen........ Not so high quality after all!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:21pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
Why dont you explain to us why the T-72's are being destroyed by the thousands across the world?
.....because T-72 is being used in thousands across the world to fight against anti-tank guided missiles and against more modern 3rd generation composite armour tanks like Abrams and Challenger. Same way SANDF Olifant Mk 1 tanks will be demolished by anti-tank missiles and mordern tanks like Abrams.

Further on your lies and misinformation :

1. Show proof that thousands of T-72 tanks are being destroyed in numbers as many as thousands

2. Tell us why T-72 tanks destroyed all British made Chieftain tanks of Iran that stood up to face the T-72

3. Show us how many times any other tank was used in major war more than T-72 in the last 25 years.

PHOTO 1 : BRITISH MADE CHEIFTAIN TANK FVCKING BEHEADED IN BATTLE BY RUSSIAN MADE T-72 TANKS IN GULF WAR

PHOTO 2 : BRITISH MADE CENTURION TANK WITH HEAD CUT OFF IN MIDDLE EAST WAR

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:24pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
I am questioning your ability to engage submarines with aircraft.

How will you engage the submarine?

Answer the question
I am questioning your ability to operate submarines in hostile enemy air power environment

How will you operate the 'must snorkel at surface' submarine?

Answer the question
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:24pm On Sep 19, 2015
Henry120:
[s]Why are you taking so much palm wine?


There is a 40 mins documentary on the T-14, an excerpt was posted in the photo-sharing thread.

I have the full 1 hour plus parade video, I didn't see a T-14 or any other vehicle for that matter failing during the parade.

Have you stopped taking your meds?


We've all seen the awesome Abrams tank cook off in Yemen. That's not a tank( Abrams) you should be bragging about.


The T-14 carries advanced armour, counter missile system and AESA radar. No Tank currently plying the face of the planet can match that.[/s]
Henry, for the first time in a long time I have been forced to scratch out your post as it is utter BS.

1. T14 failures


Lol - its too heavy for its recovery vehical AND IT BROKE DOWN DURING THE PARADE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeJzuo2TsfM

2. Abrams in Yemen are not the latest version (SEP) that have the DU layer. Le Monkey model was killed in Yemen.

3. There are exactly ZERO stats available for the T-14. So as usual you are talking sh1t.

4. K2 Black Panther (Best MBT in the world) and the Type 10 are more than a match. K2 is a better heavyweight (capabilities), Chally 2 CLIP/CLEP + Streetfighter Upgrade is a better upgrade (armor), Leo2 Revolution, M1A2SEPv2, Leclerc series XXI (all rounders) Type 10 is a better lightweight.

And in terms of all systems combined (electronics, armor, mobility, ADS) the Merk 4 is king (only because it has the only operational ADS).

Brah, tanks is my strong suite. You wanna talk tanks you better do your research.

T14 has of yet no real major advantages over any of the above mentioned vehicals
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:25pm On Sep 19, 2015
Henry120:
"Who's talking about winning?"........ You still drunk on palm wine?


Question is, why are "high quality" western techs falling like cards in Yemen........ Not so high quality after all!
Who is winning?

O yes, as usual, the western armed side is winning.

I rest my case cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:26pm On Sep 19, 2015
agaugust:
[s]
.....because T-72 is being used in thousands across the world to fight against anti-tank guided missiles and against more modern 3rd generation composite armour tanks like Abrams and Challenger. Same way SANDF Olifant Mk 1 tanks will be demolished by anti-tank missiles and mordern tanks like Abrams.

Further on your lies and misinformation :

1. Show proof that thousands of T-72 tanks are being destroyed in numbers as many as thousands

2. Tell us why T-72 tanks destroyed all British made Chieftain tanks of Iran that stood up to face the T-72

3. Show us how many times any other tank was used in major war more than T-72 in the last 25 years.

PHOTO 1 : BRITISH MADE CHEIFTAIN TANK FVCKING BEHEADED IN BATTLE BY RUSSIAN MADE T-72 TANKS IN GULF WAR

PHOTO 2 : BRITISH MADE CENTURION TANK WITH HEAD CUT OFF IN MIDDLE EAST WAR[/s]
T-72 is the worst tank in the world.

This is beyond dispute.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:27pm On Sep 19, 2015
agaugust:
I am questioning your ability to operate submarines in hostile enemy air power environment

How will you operate the 'must snorkel at surface' submarine?

Answer the question
Who cares about detection? Detection is irrelevant!!!

What will you do upon detecting it??
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:28pm On Sep 19, 2015
Henry120:
A downgraded T-72, with poorly trained crews in a fire-fight against top of the line Abrams and Charly MBTs doesn't seem like a fair fight.
Ask SANDF to deploy their Olifant Mk 1 tank against a Ugandan T-90 tank and see how Mandela will die second death
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:30pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
Who cares about detection? Detection is irrelevant!!!

What will you do upon detecting it??
Go back and read my posts on that from this week Monday to Friday, you seem to have a retaaaarded brain that wants people to repeat the same story 1,000 times for you on this thread. Mumu.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:32pm On Sep 19, 2015
agaugust:
Ask SANDF to deploy their Olifant Mk 1 tank against a Ugandan T-90 tank and see how Mandela will die second death
Why would we deploy the Mk1 when we have the Mk2B?

Moreover, why would we fight a more modern tank with an older tank when we have ATGM's that can kill the T90?

Brah, think before you post!

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:33pm On Sep 19, 2015
agaugust:
Go back and read my posts on that from this week Monday to Friday, you seem to have a retaaaarded brain that wants people to repeat the same story 1,000 times for you on this thread. Mumu.
Simple question.

What will you do upon detection?

I have been here all week and you refuse to answer this simple question
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:37pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
Henry, for the first time in a long time I have been forced to scratch out your post as it is utter BS.

1. T14 failures


Lol - its too heavy for its recovery vehical AND IT BROKE DOWN DURING THE PARADE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeJzuo2TsfM

2. Abrams in Yemen are not the latest version (SEP) that have the DU layer. Le Monkey model was killed in Yemen.

3. There are exactly ZERO stats available for the T-14. So as usual you are talking sh1t.

4. K2 Black Panther (Best MBT in the world) and the Type 10 are more than a match. K2 is a better heavyweight (capabilities), Chally 2 CLIP/CLEP + Streetfighter Upgrade is a better upgrade (armor), Leo2 Revolution, M1A2SEPv2, Leclerc series XXI (all rounders) Type 10 is a better lightweight.

And in terms of all systems combined (electronics, armor, mobility, ADS) the Merk 4 is king (only because it has the only operational ADS).

Brah, tanks is my strong suite. You wanna talk tanks you better do your research.

T14 has of yet no real major advantages over any of the above mentioned vehicals
You are definitely high on Palm wine!


There is no evidence that the T-14 broke down during the parade. You are yet to provide any............ as usual!


- Abrams tank was killed in Yemen..... Fact!


- there are multiple stats on the T-14 including a video documentary, dummy. Of one of the available stats we know the T-14 carries an AESA radar and an advanced ADS which intercepts incoming Projectiles.


- the T-14 is the best Tank in the world! The fact you had to list 5 different types of Tanks to compare with the T-14 proves this point.


- I'm not your brah, dummy!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:41pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
Who is winning?

O yes, as usual, the western armed side is winning.

I rest my case cool
A coalition of militaries of independent Nations backed by over 200 Fighter Jets can't defeat a rag-tag ring of bandit cradle robbers.

What we see are tons and tons of western tech piling up, with Africaken predicting a tremendous upsurge in sales for Oshkosh!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:47pm On Sep 19, 2015
Henry120:
You are definitely high on Palm wine!


There is no evidence that the T-14 broke down during the parade. You are yet to provide any............ as usual!


- Abrams tank was killed in Yemen..... Fact!


- there are multiple stats on the T-14 including a video documentary, dummy. Of one of the available stats we know the T-14 carries an AESA radar and an advanced ADS which intercepts incoming Projectiles.


- the T-14 is the best Tank in the world! The fact you had to list 5 different types of Tanks to compare with the T-14 proves this point.


- I'm not your brah, dummy!
1. No evidence? apart from the video i just posted?

2. Monkey Model arbams.

3. Just like the K2!!!

4. how is it the best tank?
- I listed 2 better heavy tanks (well, heavy by MBT standards)
- I listed multiple better "all rounders"
- I listed a better "light tank" (light by MBT standards)

Tell us how the T14 is so good henry. You wanna talk radar and ADS? Two words: Black Panther

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:48pm On Sep 19, 2015
Henry120:
A coalition of militaries of independent Nations backed by over 200 Fighter Jets can't defeat a rag-tag ring of bandit cradle robbers.

What we see are tons and tons of western tech piling up, with Africaken predicting a tremendous upsurge in sales for Oshkosh!
What we see is the Arab alliance winning. That is all.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:35pm On Sep 19, 2015
agaugust:
Ask SANDF to deploy their Olifant Mk 1 tank against a Ugandan T-90 tank and see how Mandela will die second death
Tanks without infantry are sitting ducks.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:39pm On Sep 19, 2015
agaugust:
I am questioning your ability to operate submarines in hostile enemy air power environment

How will you operate the 'must snorkel at surface' submarine?

Answer the question
What air power?


Nigerian navy stands no chance at sea.

Nigerian air force stands chance at air.

Nigerian army stands no chance on the ground.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m):
MikeCZAR:
What air power?


Nigerian navy stands no chance at sea.

Nigerian air force stands chance at air.

Nigerian army stands no chance on the ground.
Your submarines can only move 400nmi submerged and it's torpedoes max range is 28km at a reduced speed else 12km.
I wonder how it would leave a country like Nigeria in good condition.
You are in no way a treat to Nigeria.

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-6636/
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-6537/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 5:42pm On Sep 19, 2015
PetroDolla3:
Why don't you fvcking mind your business, instead of talking like a fool? Such nonsense! Such stvpidity! Such inferiority complex! SMH!
whatare you yamming? I'm a nigerian check my signature... Im superior too you 10x times
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 5:45pm On Sep 19, 2015
Msauza:
WHAT ABOUT YOUR THREE CRASHED F7s WHICH WAS PART OF 15 YOU ORIGINALLY PURCHASED?

you are missing the point that your air force as confirmed by your chief, just like navy your air force is suffering from a chronic LOW AVAILABILITY disease.
political statement is all thats the nigerian way,, now lets talk about your dying country..
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 5:49pm On Sep 19, 2015
MikeCZAR:
In your case you can't comprehend the simple fact that an enemy submarine presence in Nigerian waters would move your armed forces/navy from being proactive to being reactive at sea.

Giving the opposing enemy navy full control of events at sea.

Causing your navy to divert massive resources/equipment to hunting an elusive sub or protecting high value targets/warships/oil installations.

Nigeria has no anti-submarine capability.
what is ASxxx light torpedo?
What is ASW lynx helicopter?
What is P18N OPV + sonar?
What is ATR-42 MPA?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 6:03pm On Sep 19, 2015
agaugust:
Do you know my full names and seen my photo?

Failed !
I have seen you use the exact same sentences, pictures, words ect ect ect on both sites
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 6:10pm On Sep 19, 2015
lionel4power:
what is ASxxx light torpedo?
What is ASW lynx helicopter?
What is P18N OPV + sonar?
What is ATR-42 MPA?
what is ASxxx light torpedo?
Non operational

What is ASW lynx helicopter?

Non operational

What is P18N OPV + sonar?

Useless

Floating target

What is ATR-42 MPA?

Useless
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 6:14pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
Who cares about detection? Detection is irrelevant!!!

What will you do upon detecting it??
naval vessel base artillerry,
naval vessel based mortar,
shore-based artillery,
shore-based mortar.

During snorkelling aircraft cannon fire.


anti-submarine warfare 101...


When you enter nigerian shore you will witness bombardment like never seen before...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 6:21pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
what is ASxxx light torpedo? Non operational
What is ASW lynx helicopter?
Non operational
What is P18N OPV + sonar?
Useless
Floating target
What is ATR-42 MPA?
Useless
prove that any of those are 'non-operational'...
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 6:25pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
What are you talking about?

You said that the ATR-42 can detect its snorkel

Provide proof

Very simple question.
Any modern radar can detect your snorkeling sub.
It can only go 400 nautical miles submerged, so that means lesser job to be done.
You are in no way a treat to the Giant of Africa.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 7:07pm On Sep 19, 2015
iblawi:
Any modern radar can detect your snorkeling sub.
It can only go 400 nautical miles submerged, so that means lesser job to be done.
You are in no way a treat to the Giant of Africa.
Lets play a little game called "I can kill you and you cant kill me"
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:17pm On Sep 19, 2015
patches689:
Why would we deploy the Mk1 when we have the Mk2B?

Moreover, why would we fight a more modern tank with an older tank when we have ATGM's that can kill the T90?

Brah, think before you post!
Why do you keep about 130 units of Olifant Mk 1A in your armoury if you don't need them? SANDF will be forced to use those old obsolete tanks if you have to defend a huge region as big as Scotland like Nigeria did, your upgraded 44 Mk 1B tanks will not be enough to spread over 100 cities.

T-72 tank kontakt-5 ERA armour will defeat your ATGM, not to talk of T-90 tank that has it's own ATGM and composite impregnable armour, and anti-missile defence systems. Your SANDF has never fought against even a T-72 that has Kontakt-5 ERA armour, talk less of your rookie army fighting a T-90 tank.

Brah, think before you post!

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:25pm On Sep 19, 2015
iblawi:
Your submarines can only move 400nmi submerged and it's torpedoes max range is 28km at a reduced speed else 12km.
I wonder how it would leave a country like Nigeria in good condition.
You are in no way a treat to Nigeria.

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-6636/
http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-6537/
Doctrine!!!!!!!

Nigeria has no capability to counter a submarine.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:27pm On Sep 19, 2015
lionel4power:
what is ASxxx light torpedo? What is ASW lynx helicopter? What is P18N OPV + sonar? What is ATR-42 MPA?
' grin grin grin Dreams.
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