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oizapendent:
And you feel threatened?

ekemini606:
God doesn't run on logic, but faith! once again God exist and that's final. If you want prove, its you.

oizapendent:
And you feel threatened?

johnydon22:


Threatening people with a fire is not a warning but a threat. It is a threat that is meant to scare the person into submission through extortion under the threat of torture and violence.

It is same a threat as Islamic terrorists cajoling people into submission or face death and so this threat should be treated as a threat.

I only feel sad that you are a victim of this fear instilled by this threat without knowing it and in so trying to drag others down your mess, well in a sane society they must be someone who stands against any negative postulation.

OgundeleT:
yes u are right, it require faith to believe illogicality

oizapendent:
My question exactly is "do you feel threatened??" I mean when one is being threatened by what he or she doesn't believe in, we tend to wave it off and not feel threatened, but when you are bothered about the threat, it means there's something up for real or there is need to be frightened because the threat is for real. So why feel threatened when it just a threat that has no basis. #JustSaying

ekemini606:
Dnt reali know how to get this across to you
But when it comes to God, am illogical on purpose,
Am un reasonable on purpose.

There are there are things that run on logic and there are things that dont.

ekemini606:
If there where no God atheist wont exist.
Truly makes God creator of all things.
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johnydon22:
Hahahahahaha this one is funny bro...

The burden of proof is on the claimant not the one that disbelieves the claim. How can one disprove that which has not been proven, that is tantamount to disproving nothing.

Ok this like "A diamond flying pig horse exist" Ok prove to me it doesn't.

You see? it is i who makes the claim that should be proving my postulation not you who probably doubt it.

You just murdered logic. . . .This logical fallacy is called "Burden of proof reversal"

Asking one to prove a negate. . . .Lack of proof of the posit already is all the proof against it………

OgundeleT:
Hahaa lwkmd. That is murder of logic, has any1 proved his existence to a logical conclusion b4? No. then I av nothing to prove, u are the one to prove that he exist by negating the claim that he exist

Anyway am starting a new story on the website today, have you registered?

ekemini606:
If there where no God atheist wont exist.
Truly makes God creator of all things.

Logic! Logic!!
There are phenomenon that dont fit by way of logicall consistency.
am a christian, therefor when it comes to God, am illogical on purpose.

johnydon22:
Let me demonstrate how theistic logic works here

PROVIDING PROOF

OGUN: i have a diamond ball (Claim)

DELE : I don't believe you, prove it

OGUN: Here see it (Brings out diamond ball... Claim proven)

DELE: Yes you do have a diamond ball (Agrees)

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THEISTIC LOGIC

OGUN: I have a God who created the universe and all other shenanigans and stuff (Claim)

DELE: I don't believe yo, prove it.

OGUN: You can't prove that i don't have a God

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THEISTIC LOGIC 2

OGUN: I have a God this holy book said so (claim)

DELE : I don't believe there is such a thing prove it

OGUN : It is written on my holy book so that is my proof (using a claim as evidence)

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Lmao. . .am sure this illustration above shows how absurd it sounds when one ask the disbeliever of his claim to prove his claim is not true..

johnydon22:
[b]To be totally honest we see hell as you would see it if a 5year old tells you that fairies won't give you candy.

But unlike this Childish threat of a Child which stems from his/her ignorance and naivete and washes away as she grows your dogmatic method of subjecting the public to this threat of burning doesn't wash away.

You were born and threatened into this submission and just like every other aspect of indoctrination you carry on this tradition of which you are a victim of.

We call out this threat because we see the effect it has caused to the children, we know it is wrong to lay out threats on the general public in the guise of beliefs.

We are not in anyway perturbed by this myth but we are here to engage anyone spreading this psychological control too to the public so that the general public can learn to put up a stand against this and refute it when ever they can.

Because we want to expose myths as myths, you want to sell myth to the public as truth, members of this public who knows it as myth will always be there to disagree and refute such absurd ideas.

We engage you so that you who is propagating this will have a rethink, employ your personal reason and think independently for once, hopefully maybe you too can see how you have been cajoled into this barbaric thoughts

And maybe, just maybe Africans, Nigerians will learn to be better people that are dependent on their own reason and not religious books..

I am only concerned about the effect such concepts has on people of which i am seeing evidently on you and it is quite a pity to me.[/b]

KingEbukasBlog:
lmao ... the statement is a negative proposition from your own perspective ... simple

Not yet sha ... but very soon

Romantic story ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists are quick to conclude . I still insist that the concept of Hell has not been fully grasped most christians .

We attack the idea that is laid out not the one that you think you are yet to grasp.

The concept of HELL as laid out by Christianity probably doesn't make sense to you that's why you think they got it all mixed up and hasn't grasped it fully yet..

KingEbukasBlog:
You "brilliantly" gave an analogy to suite your stance in the argument . Come on !!!

My illustration was simply a summary of all you have been saying here ..."Prove to me that God doesn't exist " . . .hahahahaha

johnydon22:
[b]To be totally honest we see hell as you would see it if a 5year old tells you that fairies won't give you candy.

But unlike this Childish threat of a Child which stems from his/her ignorance and naivete and washes away as she grows your dogmatic method of subjecting the public to this threat of burning doesn't wash away.

You were born and threatened into this submission and just like every other aspect of indoctrination you carry on this tradition of which you are a victim of.

We call out this threat because we see the effect it has caused to the children, we know it is wrong to lay out threats on the general public in the guise of beliefs.

We are not in anyway perturbed by this myth but we are here to engage anyone spreading this psychological control too to the public so that the general public can learn to put up a stand against this and refute it when ever they can.

Because we want to expose myths as myths, you want to sell myth to the public as truth, members of this public who knows it as myth will always be there to disagree and refute such absurd ideas.

We engage you so that you who is propagating this will have a rethink, employ your personal reason and think independently for once, hopefully maybe you too can see how you have been cajoled into this barbaric thoughts

And maybe, just maybe Africans, Nigerians will learn to be better people that are dependent on their own reason and not religious books..

I am only concerned about the effect such concepts has on people of which i am seeing evidently on you and it is quite a pity to me.[/b]

oizapendent:
I don't argue about issues like this, i believe everyone is entitled to his or own opinion, and no one has the right to force any religion or belief on anyone. It's a free world.

johnydon22:

Aaaaaah Ebuka stop disappointing me with this murder of logic na. . . .Since when does "disbelief" of a posit, a postulation of a negate?

Like i gave in an example

Me :"There is a diamond flying pig that created you" (Claim)
You: I don't believe you prove it (this doesn't me you say there isn't you just don't believe my claim in the absence of tangible empirical evidence.

The Onus is now on me who is the claimant to provide proof of my postulation or it remains just a claim which is same as saying "Nothing"...

Money, Crime, Lust (sex), Love, Choices, greed. . . How these choices affects the lives of a young growing boy/student in the society . .

You can feature MY FATHER'S WIFE on your blog shaa

johnydon22:
We attack the idea that is laid out not the one that you think you are yet to grasp.

The concept of HELL as laid out by Christianity probably doesn't make sense to you that's why you think they got it all mixed up and hasn't grasped it fully yet..

ekemini606:
God existence is final! Weather or not human logic support it. God is in man.I believe no one is actually thought about God.

sincerely, if you take 200 infant from our civilization, raise them in some remote country, far from any outsde interference_ a handfull of them will still look to the sky and wonder.."what else is out there". .And before you know it, a God would appear.

johnydon22:


Threatening people with a fire is not a warning but a threat. It is a threat that is meant to scare the person into submission through extortion under the threat of torture and violence.

It is same a threat as Islamic terrorists cajoling people into submission or face death and so this threat should be treated as a threat.

I only feel sad that you are a victim of this fear instilled by this threat without knowing it and in so trying to drag others down your mess, well in a sane society they must be someone who stands against any negative postulation.

ekemini606:
When the law say do not steal/kill or face a certain penalty, that's no threat right?
But when a devine creator say same, it suddenly becomes a threat.
Play on.

keenn:
Nigga, don't talk this way pls. Were ur forefathers not taught what they worshiped, likewise your parent, including u?

Like wise if u give a child a toy box to play with, curiosity will make him/her wanna crack the box in wonderment to check what's in it...is our said child looking for a God in the box? LMAO

My brother with your last logic u sounded more like an atheist

ekemini606:
What about time and space, societies at parallel, suddenly in unionism believing in a define being. Who telepathically passed a message?

keenn:
Just as hunger, thirst, love, pain, pleasure...is ubiquitous among races, likewise has man yearn to know more and to placate things he thinks he can't control...rainbow, sunrise and sunset, rainfall, shadow, comets travel,bush fires, the moon periodic shape, arrangements of celestial bodies, seasons, lifeless body, dreams ...were looked with awe by people of all races. The quest to understand and pacify what isn't there lead to the God concept

Did u say telepathy?

My brother, nobody talks to anybody.

Ketamine is a drug that upon administering u will claim you've experienced devine encounter.

ekemini606:
When the law say do not steal/kill or face a certain penalty, that's no threat right?
But when a devine creator say same, it suddenly becomes a threat.
Play on.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol .. johnny ... lets end this argument with this :

I have proof that God exists which you guys dont agree with . Evolutionists have proof that evolution (macro) exists which creationists dont agree with , is an evolutionist asking a creationist to prove that there is no such thing as evolution considered as a negative proposition ?

This two positions rest on the interpretation of observations in a scientific term. . . Islamist think the sun goes round the earth their postulation is an explanation of actually seeing the rising and setting, this is not evidence but simply explanation of an observation some concluded after observing that the sun rests on a giant turtle, so this postulations are employed to explain real phenomenons just like the "God did it" hypothesis .

Evidence simply is when someone travels to space and first hand take a picture of the earth...

So pray tell, can you spell out one of your evidences

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ekemini606:
Like hunger, love, desired..e.t.c..don't u think that God also, was pre_installed in man (permitte my term).

johnydon22:

You see one thing with theistic arguments is dishonesty..

The constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria never said "Believe me or i punish you, the constitution simply lays out out don'ts that are in conformity with societal norms.

But then on the other hand..
Christians say Believe my God or burn in hell... This is a pure threat because belief in a God is not a societal norm.

Isis say believe in Allah or we chop off your head... sounds similar? oh yes because it is exactly what you are doing as a Christian, employing the threat of violence to ensure unwillful coercion into your beliefs.

When a belief lays out a threat of violence and torture to instill submission, it is a threat and should be treated as one.... Chew on that...

ekemini606:
You are right! The constitution never said believe in me or I will punish you.
What it said was if you kill, steal,...etc. I will punish.
Which is pretty much what God said also if you follow the general theme of christian.
Death has always being as a consequence for sin.

First God is a spirit, and this spirit is the word,
if you believe this word, then you believe in God.
The word is then the law of sin and death.
Thou shall not kill, what is it about that, that is so evil,
Thou shall love thy neighbour as thyself. Are these not the word of God? Which we christian say is God himself.

So lets take it further into the doctrines of Xtianty.

The bible says "Whoever does not believe in him is condemned already"

So to you a Hindu lacks belief in your God concept will a Hindu be saved to the Christian heaven?

johnydon22:
Lmao. . were we arguing. . am sure i was simply correcting your employment of logical fallacies.
This two positions rest on the interpretation of observations in a scientific term. . . Islamist think the sun goes round the earth their postulation is an explanation of actually seeing the rising and setting, this is not evidence but simply explanation of an observation some concluded after observing that the sun rests on a giant turtle, so this postulations are employed to explain real phenomenons just like the "God did it" hypothesis .

Evidence simply is when someone travels to space and first hand take a picture of the earth...

So pray tell, can you spell out one of your evidences

You paying right?