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agaugust:
The guy thinks coastal water is 500 m deep, he did not know why Nigerian navy has many flat bottom boats and sea surface skimming IPVs.
Southies don't know what sea warfare is in reality, all they know is to show photos of frigates and submarines, how it all works in sea battle is beyond their low calibre understanding
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I haven't said coastal waters is 500m deep all that we were arguing about was the test depth of heroine class. By the way why would sub go to the coastal other than keeping some over 30 km away the coastal area? torpedoes can still reach to the target isn't?

agaugust:
The guy thinks coastal water is 500 m deep, he did not know why Nigerian navy has many flat bottom boats and sea surface skimming IPVs.

Southies don't know what sea warfare is in reality, all they know is to show photos of frigates and submarines, how it all works in sea battle is beyond their low calibre understanding
.

they think warfare is buy buying fancy equipment. they don't know that Nigeria leads Africa in litorial warfare... they'll learn today.

they should not go and buy IPVs like Nigeria.

agaugust:
Botswana.....their rangers save 500 South African exiled Rhinos that were shipped from Kruger Park

Poaching is still very high in Botswana.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/21/botswana-game-hunting-ban

lionel4power:
they think warfare is buy buying fancy equipment. they don't know that Nigeria leads Africa in litorial warfare... they'll learn today.

they should not go and buy IPVs like Nigeria.

Yet pirates operate as if they walk on the park in your shores. What kind of a leader are you? They operate without subs and ftigates and still they humiliate your navy.

Nigerian ship building capacity.

60 meters vessel built for an oil servicing company by a local ship builder.

lionel4power:
they think warfare is buy buying fancy equipment. they don't know that Nigeria leads Africa in litorial warfare... they'll learn today.

they should not go and buy IPVs like Nigeria.

You lead nobody with your poorly protected maritime borders.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/185107-pirates-raid-nigeria-police-armoury-seize-weapons.html

This classically personify your weakness.

agaugust:
Prove it, prove how you know a classified secret system in detail.



"Speaking at the inaugural lecture of officers’ long course organised by the Nigerian Naval Ship (NNS) QUORRA, former Flag Officer Commanding Western Naval Command, Rear Admiral Francis Akpan (rtd.) , said the system would assist in monitoring, tracking and collating maritime activities to protect national interest.

He also said the Falcon Eye system would enable the force monitor the movement of vessels within the country’s territorial waters and the Gulf of Guinea and enable them also to track such vessels and ultimately arrest them."

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/navy-acquires-israeli-surveillance-system-to-tackle-oil-theft/220493/

Falcon Eye covers the whole Nigerian EEZ and extends into Gulf of Guinea. South African navy will never get such sophistication, your South African navy is 100 years behind Nigerian navy, you lack a composite ocean monitoring and passive defense system combining air, sea, and coastal land equipment.

Submarines and frigates alone do not make a modern, effective, balanced and complete navy
.

We are 100 years behind a navy that does not have subs and frigates. How pathetic is that statement.

Nigerias cost now the deadliest on mother earth even more deadly than Somalian coast.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigerian-coast-now-deadliest-on-earth/201201/

FighterPilot:


I haven't said coastal waters is 500m deep all that we were arguing about was the test depth of heroine class. By the way why would sub go to the coastal other than keeping some over 30 km away the coastal area? torpedoes can still reach to the target isn't?

yet again you display spectacular stupidity and ignorance typical of all zulus.

at extreme range a torpedo is influenced by a myriad of factors that degrades its accuracy to hit a target.

motion of target
temperature of sea
aquatic wildlife
pressure of sea
salinity of sea
terrain of sea
presence of sediment s
sea texture
earths rotation
tides

and a host of other factors boat random and controlled.... before your torpedoe reaches its max range it with would have been heading to another continent.


say thank you sir for this free education.. fool

DictatorZAR:
Our frigates can detect your vessels and aircraft even 100km outside your territorial waters and if two subs are supported by two frigates one frigate dedicated for aerial and ECM warfare and another to take out any vessel/gunboat. The subs will be protected and warned via data-link about your radars and will know exactly where your aircraft are and can engage your vessels anytime it wants without you having any counters.

Your vessels are no match for our frigates and there radars are alsi not in our guided missile frigates class.

You guys need to learn difference between nautical miles (nmi) and kilometer (km). The radar on you valour covers 300km and not 300nmi.

Nigeria SR60 surveillance radar on P18N OPV is the same as type 360 radar and it also covers about 300km.
NNS thunder and NNS okpabama carry AN/SPS-40 air search radar. And many other vessels.

You valour carry Umkhonto IR missile of 15km and it CIWS have effective range of 4km while F7 have search radar of 40km and carry a missile of 22km. What do you expect of all your Valours? It means they will all drown in Nigeria's territory.

Your submarines are not modern and they already have a successor which is the type 214 submarines. Your submarines are type 209 fool stop calling them modern submarines. You guys dont do any research before making comment. You are only fooling yourself.


You guys should wise up. Nigeria is too big for you.

Henry120:
Nigerian ship building capacity.

60 meters vessel built for an oil servicing company by a local ship builder.

Bro we are moving at a very fast paste. I can't wait for Nigeria to start building it frigates and OPVs

FighterPilot:
You will waste your time trying to detect modern subs using radar.

How will the boat even know the torpedo is even there? Bwahahahaha…

Its proved with sources that radar will detect submarine snorkeling.

Our stealth combat catamaran boats have echo sounders for detecting underwater objects.

Your country has never seen a combat catamaran before so you don't know what it can do.

lionel4power:
yet again you display spectacular stupidity and ignorance typical of all zulus.

at extreme range a torpedo is influenced by a myriad of factors that degrades its accuracy to hit a target.

motion of target
temperature of sea
aquatic wildlife
pressure of sea
salinity of sea
terrain of sea
presence of sediment s
sea texture
earths rotation
tides

and a host of other factors boat random and controlled.... before your torpedoe reaches its max range it with would have been heading to another continent.


say thank you sir for this free education.. fool

Torpedo is not an unguided weapon that can easily move away from the target. It is a controlled weapon that has to remain locked onto the target throughout its journey.

Sorry!! Your cheap education bounced.

agaugust:
Its proved with sources that radar will detect submarine snorkeling.

Our stealth combat catamaran boats have echo sounders for detecting underwater objects.

Your country has never seen a combat catamaran before so you don't know what it can do.

I say again it won't detect it.

DictatorZAR:
Subs can stay 200mni out of your coast and with the help of valours create a naval blockade. Your navy won't stop us not even your 2 F-7 relics.

We've already proven your brown water navy will be hiding in your docks very scared.

Not scared, our ships are ensuring that your submarine have no target to attack, instead we will turn the tide against you and begin to hunt your submarine, hunter becomes the hunted.....so scared and afraid your submarine has now been moved by you to 200 nmi away from Nigeria with a 15 nmi short legged range torpedo

Ships will be busy sailing in and out of your fake naval blockade, at 200 nmi away, ships will sail from Nigeria along west african coastline just 5 nmi from our coast, while your submarine is running out of diesel in the waters of Sao Tome and Principe a different nation that also owns the area.....Portuguese navy will be called in by Sao Tome to sink your submarine for violating their waters.

Southie fools don't even know Sao Tome is there, they want to blockade 200 nmi distance and fight the whole world with battery powered submarine

FighterPilot:
RAM is mostly a german tech where SA subs were bought.

South African submarines have NO STEALTH paint or coating, stop telling lies !

iblawi:
You guys need to learn difference between nautical miles (nmi) and kilometer (km). The radar on you valour covers 300km and not 300nmi.

Nigeria SR60 surveillance radar on P18N OPV is the same as type 360 radar and it also covers about 300km.
NNS thunder and NNS okpabama carry AN/SPS-40 air search radar. And many other vessels.

You valour carry Umkhonto IR missile of 15km and it CIWS have effective range of 4km while F7 have search radar of 40km and carry a missile of 22km. What do you expect of all your Valours? It means they will all drown in Nigeria's territory.

Your submarines are not modern and they already have a successor which is the type 214 submarines. Your submarines are type 209 fool stop calling them modern submarines. You guys dont do any research before making comment. You are only fooling yourself.


You guys should wise up. Nigeria is too big for you.

Type 209 is a modern sub no doubt about it.

iblawi:
You guys need to learn difference between nautical miles (nmi) and kilometer (km). The radar on you valour covers 300km and not 300nmi.

Nigeria SR60 surveillance radar on P18N OPV is the same as type 360 radar and it also covers about 300km.
NNS thunder and NNS okpabama carry AN/SPS-40 air search radar. And many other vessels.

You valour carry Umkhonto IR missile of 15km and it CIWS have effective range of 4km while F7 have search radar of 40km and carry a missile of 22km. What do you expect of all your Valours? It means they will all drown in Nigeria's territory.

Your submarines are not modern and they already have a successor which is the type 214 submarines. Your submarines are type 209 fool stop calling them modern submarines. You guys dont do any research before making comment. You are only fooling yourself.


You guys should wise up. Nigeria is too big for you.

Lies and delusions

Your P18N uses the weak Type-347G Radar not in the class of the Thales system SAN Valours have. The SR60 which is the same as the ones on the Pakistani frigates is also not as powerful as those on the Valours.

The Valour radar has a 180km range better then any ship in sub sahara in its class.

The F-7 PL-9C is a air to air missile how the fcvk will you use against a surface ship you fool.

The Umkhonto SAM can be used to target surface targets as well.

The type 209/1400MOD are different from all other subs in the its class only Brazil and India have the this types that can match SAN subs.

Your 3 F-7 cannot carry missile as been stated by your air chiefs, and is classified as an cheap interceptor.

Do your research you dumb fool.

agaugust:
Prove that SAN has it...we are waiting !

RAM come as standard to attack subs in modern day and era.

FighterPilot:
Who said subs go to that far?

Diving sea depth of SAN submarine is only 250 m. Fact !

DictatorZAR:
So says the mampara who will go to war with shaldags on high seas with no defense against a torpedo.

It's hard to torpedo a Shaldag, it almost flies on the sea surface and it's twice faster than your torpedo.

FighterPilot:
Nope is 500m sir as tested


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroine-class_submarine

Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source.

agaugust:
Tested sea depth of SAN submarine is only 250 m. Fact !

It is 500m sir. 250 is just a driving depth but still you can drive at 500m, the crushing depth is 570m. Thank you.

agaugust:
Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source.

Then search for all type 209 from those of Egypt and others. They all state 500m.

agaugust:
It's hard to torpedo a Shaldag, it almost flies on the sea surface and it's twice faster than your torpedo.

How will shaldag know is being torpedoed?

FighterPilot:
Type 209 is a modern sub no doubt about it.

1969 or 1970 technology is modern only in South Africa.

FighterPilot:
I say again it won't detect it.

Just because you say so? Comedian.

agaugust:
It's hard to torpedo a Shaldag, it almost flies on the sea surface and it's twice faster than your torpedo.

Yes its faster then a 76mm ottobreda rapid fire cannon too you fool or the twin 20mm guns also

The type 209 have been tested to the depth of 500m

http://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=Type-209

agaugust:
Just because you say so? Comedian.

Yet you fail to prove the comedian wrong.

FighterPilot:
Yet pirates operate as if they walk on the park in your shores. What kind of a leader are you? They operate without subs and ftigates and still they humiliate your navy.

you think that its easy to fight piracy? look at somalia, the whole world is sending warships to her shores yet piracy is still abundant.

piracy is like terrorism... pirates mingle with legitimate ship owners.
pirates uses small wooden boats which is hard to detect with radar.

yet Nigeria fight piracy alone in all the gulf of guinea still we don't complain. we dominate our territory.

iblawi:
1969 or 1970 technology is modern only in South Africa.

Is the Type-209/1400 MOD a 1970 technology.

1)STN Atlas CSU-90 sonar is 1970's tech

2)The SAAB SMUE-100 tactical support electronic suit is also 1970's tech.

Wow is this the type of debate we have with fools who don't even know the basics.