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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Burger01(m): 8:07pm On Sep 21, 2015
Tonyebarcanista, you make sense on this one. Seems you don dey turn green leaf small smallsmiley

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Hero10001: 8:08pm On Sep 21, 2015
dunkem21:
..After two lines, I know it can't be Barcanista ..grin
Barcanista is better than this..
The tonye is an impostor.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by PublicAssurance: 8:10pm On Sep 21, 2015
[size=18pt]Teacher don't teach me nonsense![/size]
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Nobody: 8:12pm On Sep 21, 2015
SeverusSnape:
Another barcanista wannabe. grin
Olodo

So na only one account person fit open
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Nobody: 8:13pm On Sep 21, 2015
SeverusSnape:

Chai!... Sense you no get. So you believe this is the REAL barcanista grin
Foólish kid
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Jesusloveyou: 8:16pm On Sep 21, 2015
sunnyb0b0:


No sir, he has the right to run to another court to seek protection.
can't u understand a common analysis? He can seek protection by appealing against d ruling of cct, u can only seek protection from a higher ground

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by sunnyb0b0(m): 8:18pm On Sep 21, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
can't u understand a common analysis? He can seek protection by appealing against d ruling of cct, u can only seek protection from a higher ground

You do not seek protection by appealing a ruling already pronounced.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by soonest(f): 8:19pm On Sep 21, 2015
modath:


They didnt
Madam, wetin u dey do here. grin grin
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by sauceEEP(m): 8:21pm On Sep 21, 2015
E be like say this version of barcanista get sense pass the former one.... cool

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by agabusta: 8:23pm On Sep 21, 2015
rhames:



Sentimentally, the Yoruba lawyers feel they are superior to other lawyers when they speak. The highest disregard for any judge is to call him incompetent.

You guys should stop looking at the statement from a sentimental point of view.

He used the term as a technical legal term to mean that the tribunal was not properly composed. He did not direct the 'not competent' statement at the Person of the chairman, but at the tribunal to mean that it was not properly constituted to try a case.

Although, he was wrong on the submission as two justices are sufficient to try a case, but I just need to clarify that we should not be too sentimental on this issue.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by margclever: 8:23pm On Sep 21, 2015
T0nyeBarcanista:
Many SANs, including Saraki's lawyers have critically complained about the CCT's disregard for the authority of the Federal High Court.

Let us ignore the fact that they later shot themselves in the feet when they realised their mistake and ran back to institute exactly the same matter at the Court of Appeal.

Apparently, Saraki's lawyers did not realise the following and may need to be schooled further on why their action at the Federal High Court was a nullity:

1. When you are charged to a court....any court at all....and you wish to challenge it's jurisdiction, you do so right in that same court.

2. If the CCT ignores your application and rules that it has jurisdiction, then you appeal its ruling.

3. The constitution has already clarified which court is capable of reviewing the Ruling of the CCT.

4. No where in jurisprudence, is a plaintiff permitted to sue a court as a party to the case, the only provision is to appeal its ruling.

5. The CCT is a specialized court similar to the Election petition Tribunals. Appeals from them go directly to the Court of Appeal. These tribunal panels comprise high court judges of coordinate jurisdiction.

6. An invitation of the high court judge to both parties, asking for them to show reason why they feel the high court should not issue an interlocutory injunction stopping CCT is no way an Interlocutory Injunction already.

7. Saraki's disregard of a substantive court summon in the absence of an Interlocutory Injunction was a direct request for a bench warrant.

While it is very clear that the CCT has given Saraki and his lawyers utmost respect and regard by withholding the bench warrant, believing that as a responsible citizen, he will honour the summons on Tuesday, let no one be in doubt about the CCT's utmost power to arrest, detain and lock behind bars, any accused person who shows open brigandage and disregard for the court's authority, no matter how highly placed.

is barcanister such a role model that you cant do your analysis without cloning his account? Agbaya be proud of urself u coward.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Nobody: 8:25pm On Sep 21, 2015
T0nyeBarcanista:
According to the constitution...."The question of whether or not such protocol as mentioned above has been followed shall not be asked"


The constitution already took care of that.

Notwithstanding, if a defendant has any complains about the writ of summons, he can only table it before the trial judge as he honours the summons. Just like challenging jurisdictions, challenging the technicality of the case is a matter of jurisprudence very well recognised.

Many cases have been struck out on technical grounds alone.

He was wrong to file that challenge in a different court, treating the trial court with utter disregard.


My brother, you are very WRONG. Your submissions in the post portray you as a layman that applies morality and common sense to law. Both are different and can never meet.(Lord Denning).

1. You appeal the jurisdiction of trial Court in a higher Court and not the same Court. Where you do so, hearing of the matter automatically stops till a decision is reached on jurisdiction.

2. Saraki did not institute an action with the CCT as a party. His contention was that the office of the A-G federation was vacant and as such it cannot prosecute him.

#My Opinion; he was wrong on this one. In A-G Kaduna state v Hassan, it was held that where there is no substantive A-G, the solicitor General or any other officer in the office of the A-G cannot enter a nolle prosequi. In A-G fed v ANPP, it was held that the office of the A-G is a corporation sole and can prosecute persons even where there is no substantive A-G in place.

Saraki's Lawyers were not wrong to seek interpretation of the law on these two cases cos they have posed a conundrum to a lot of persons and Lawyers.

3. You argument is devoid of sound logic and point of law. It shouldn't have made frontpage.

Cc seun

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Nobody: 8:25pm On Sep 21, 2015
Seun please decimate dis chinko barcanista. People should get real n stop creating chaos in d nairaland server. Stop d confusion!!!
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by gidjah(m): 8:26pm On Sep 21, 2015
Who the Cap fits,let him wear it.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by godzson(m): 8:26pm On Sep 21, 2015
Pissed qbout dis saraki shit already
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Jesusloveyou: 8:29pm On Sep 21, 2015
Burger01:
Tonyebarcanista, you make sense on this one. Seems you don dey turn green leaf small smallsmiley
can chief wailer make sense?

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Burger01(m): 8:31pm On Sep 21, 2015
Jesusloveyou:
can chief wailer make sense?
Na temporary sense he get. He will revert back to status quo soonsmiley
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Nobody: 8:32pm On Sep 21, 2015
The real barcanister has been band
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Senifad: 8:32pm On Sep 21, 2015
I hope "light-fingers" will not continue "breaking fat-fingers"

Servants will stop "riding on the horse while the OWNER is being dragged along on foot as like a slave"

God bless Nigeria
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Koolking(m): 8:33pm On Sep 21, 2015
T0nyeBarcanista:
Many SANs, including Saraki's lawyers have critically complained about the CCT's disregard for the authority of the Federal High Court.

Let us ignore the fact that they later shot themselves in the feet when they realised their mistake and ran back to institute exactly the same matter at the Court of Appeal.

Apparently, Saraki's lawyers did not realise the following and may need to be schooled further on why their action at the Federal High Court was a nullity:

1. When you are charged to a court....any court at all....and you wish to challenge it's jurisdiction, you do so right in that same court.

2. If the CCT ignores your application and rules that it has jurisdiction, then you appeal its ruling.

3. The constitution has already clarified which court is capable of reviewing the Ruling of the CCT.

4. No where in jurisprudence, is a plaintiff permitted to sue a court as a party to the case, the only provision is to appeal its ruling.

5. The CCT is a specialized court similar to the Election petition Tribunals. Appeals from them go directly to the Court of Appeal. These tribunal panels comprise high court judges of coordinate jurisdiction.

6. An invitation of the high court judge to both parties, asking for them to show reason why they feel the high court should not issue an interlocutory injunction stopping CCT is no way an Interlocutory Injunction already.

7. Saraki's disregard of a substantive court summon in the absence of an Interlocutory Injunction was a direct request for a bench warrant.

While it is very clear that the CCT has given Saraki and his lawyers utmost respect and regard by withholding the bench warrant, believing that as a responsible citizen, he will honour the summons on Tuesday, let no one be in doubt about the CCT's utmost power to arrest, detain and lock behind bars, any accused person who shows open brigandage and disregard for the court's authority, no matter how highly placed.

Your points are app. For the first time in a long time I read an opinion devoid of emotion and intellectually overwhelming from you.
The bold is where most Nigerians got it wrong on the powers of CCT. They feel the '3rd citizen' of Nigeria who is privileged to surround himself with SANs has power over CCT. How wrong. The delay to arrest Saraki was out of respect for him and his office while anticipating Saraki's compliance and cooperation in return. I wonder what example he has shown to his house members and political wannabees.

The end will tell if Saraki is above the law.

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by maipeople(m): 8:36pm On Sep 21, 2015
A Professor stepped into a law class and threw an orange at one one of his students and said "Give it as a gift to any of your friends now". The boy said to one of his friends: "Abdul, l give this orange to you as a gift".
The Professor gave him a stern look and said: "Like a lawyer!".
Immediately, the boy straightened up, cleared his throat and began:
"I, Sefa Adingi, adult, male of M16 ASO Drive, Maitama-Abuja hereby with all intent and purposes, wilfully give unto you, Messrs Abdullahi Lamido of No.25 Creepton Street, Area 3, Garki-Abuja, this citrus with its skin, seeds, segments, juice and supple innings that you may exercise actual and proprietary rights thereon, to hold unto same as a gift, a bequest, an endowment validly so transferred, given out, bequested, alienated, assigned, that you may eat, lick, devour, suck, make juice out of, munch or grant, give out, devolve, alienate in your rightful capacity as the owner either in actual, virtual or constructive capacity of an agent or attorney as may be chosen by you, that the said citrus may be treated in the aforementioned ways or other ways not so listed but not as a weapon to be thrown at persons or animals with malicious intent to hurt, inflict pain or serve as an incendiary action to incite unrest of any kind, but that the said citrus may be used in such beneficial capacity or simply bet destroyed in such exercise of legal and equitable ownership as may be fit by the beneficiary of this bequest".

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by OrlandoOwoh(m): 8:37pm On Sep 21, 2015
capip120:
Guy change your moniker to who you are supposed to be and stop trying to be who you are not. Dim-witted ass nigga angry sad sad sad sad
We only no Tonyebarcanista
Which one be T0nyebarcanista angry angry angry
I bet you will soon get tired of posting with this fake moniker.
Look at the message, not the messanger.

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by margclever: 8:40pm On Sep 21, 2015
kopite:
Seun please decimate dis chinko barcanista. People should get real n stop creating chaos in d nairaland server. Stop d confusion!!!
i lost whatever interest in his piece when i saw that he is a moniker thief. And the mods brough his trash to front page
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by udemzyudex(m): 8:40pm On Sep 21, 2015
midolian:
This guy is so on point.

8.) You don't call a judge that presides over your case "incompetent". I am sure joseph Daudu will regret ever calling a hausa/fulani Judge "incompetent".

The same "incompetent" Justice Danladi Umar will be the one he and his paymaster(Saraki) will face tomorrow.


Useless tribalist
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Alal(m): 8:40pm On Sep 21, 2015
Good points, am glad someone can think straight, when we youth can't think straight and say and see the truth, I wonder the kind of leaders we will become.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Rotimi47: 8:42pm On Sep 21, 2015
MISSNORA:
barcanista can be truthful sometimes
grin
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by pocal: 8:43pm On Sep 21, 2015
Saraki is a goner... let him work out honourally before they finish him....
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by kingdompropty: 8:44pm On Sep 21, 2015
[quote author=Demmzy15 post=38243365][font=serif]Guy you don come with your mushroom analysis! It's getting boring and baseless, I'll advice you take the back sit.

Pa Shukwudi Saraki's shoeshiner/buttlicker, we're expecting you here. Come and spew venom as usual!

@fake Tonyebarcanista. APC and fake is like bread and butter.

In the morning they would tell gullible Nigerians, they are fighting corruption. Criminal brooms wielding witchcraft party.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Rotimi47: 8:44pm On Sep 21, 2015
T0nyeBarcanista:
According to the constitution...."The question of whether or not such protocol as mentioned above has been followed shall not be asked"


The constitution already took care of that.

Notwithstanding, if a defendant has any complains about the writ of summons, he can only table it before the trial judge as he honours the summons. Just like challenging jurisdictions, challenging the technicality of the case is a matter of jurisprudence very well recognised.

Many cases have been struck out on technical grounds alone.

He was wrong to file that challenge in a different court, treating the trial court with utter disregard.
Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by Jesusloveyou: 8:44pm On Sep 21, 2015
Burger01:
Na temporary sense he get. He will revert back to status quo soonsmiley
d op is not chief wailer

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Re: Where Saraki's Lawyers Goofed - By T0nyebarcanista by modath(f): 8:48pm On Sep 21, 2015
soonest:

Madam, wetin u dey do here. grin grin
grin grin, Na here be my real habitat grin, that our preggy & US thread na just waka pass..

I be full time shareholder.

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