₦airaland Forum

agaugust:
I am not the one ranking one above the other, all I said is nobody has monopoly of ECM jamming over others. Russia will jam, America will jam.

Russian ECM have war records too, they saw live BRV combat action in Badme war Ethiopia Vs Eritrea, it was Su-27 Flanker and it shot down every MiG-29 that fought it to conclusion, that is a fair war where both jets were flown by mercenary Ukrainian/Russian pilots, not like American pilots flying against 3rd world countries pilots and claiming champion.

Let Saudi Arabian pilot fly F-15 against Russian pilot having Su-30 Flanker plus Russian AWACS aircraft and ECM aircraft extra support, then we will know how western equipment perform against eastern stuff, so that people can draw conclusion like they did in Iraq Vs USA air war.

Bros, you get the jist?
.

sometimes i wonder if you actually beleive what you type

patches689:
sometimes i wonder if you actually beleive what you type

That's what i always say about you.

BREAKING NEWS: OVER 200 BOKO HARAM{ISWAP} TERRORISTS SURRENDER TO THE NIGERIAN ARMY
.
.
http://www.naij.com/565132-breaking-200-boko-haram-terrorisst-surrender-nigerian-army.html
.

agaugust:
Russian ECM have war records too,they saw live BRV combat action in Badme war Ethiopia Vs Eritrea,it was Su-27 Flanker and it shot down every MiG-29 that fought it to conclusion,that is a fair war where both jets were flown by mercenary Ukrainian/Russian pilots,not like American pilots flying against 3rd world countries pilots and claiming champion.
Let Saudi Arabian pilot fly F-15 against Russian pilot having Su-30 Flanker plus Russian AWACS aircraft and ECM aircraft extra support, then we will know how western equipment perform against eastern stuff,so that people can draw conclusion like they did in Iraq Vs USA air war.
Bros,you get the jist?
.

All the R-27 AAM shot in the Ethiopian-Eritrean war lost their marks,I would like you to enlighten me on what you mean by "BVR combat action",all the downed MIG-29s(eritrean),MI-35(ethiopian) and MiG-21(ethiopian) were carried out in close quater combat,using R-73 AAMs and 30mm canons.
Russian ECMs have no combat records.

agaugust:
I am not the one ranking one above the other,all I said is nobody has monopoly of ECM jamming over others.Russia will jam,America will jam.
Russian ECM have war records too,they saw live BRV combat action in Badme war Ethiopia Vs Eritrea,it was Su-27 Flanker and it shot down every MiG-29 that fought it to conclusion,that is a fair war where both jets were flown by mercenary
Ukrainian/Russian pilots,not like American pilots flying against 3rd world countries pilots and claiming champion.
Let Saudi Arabian pilot fly F-15 against Russian pilot having Su-30 Flanker plus Russian AWACS aircraft and ECM aircraft extra support,then we will know how western equipment perform against eastern stuff,so that people can draw conclusion like they did in Iraq Vs USA air war.
Bros,you get the jist?
.

I get your jist,but what I'm saying is that US ECMs are superior to any Russian ECM available.
Even if the F-15E meets SU-30 backed by AWACS,its likely to be a stalemate or outright victory.

EVarn:
All the R-27 AAM shot in the Ethiopian-Eritrean war lost their marks,I would like you to enlighten me on what you mean by "BVR combat action",all the downed MIG-29s(eritrean),MI-35(ethiopian) and MiG-21(ethiopian) were carried out in close quater combat,using R-73 AAMs and 30mm canons.
Russian ECMs have no combat records.

Badme air war genuine details are hard to find.

You have citations for the above claims? Not wikipedia o .
.

EVarn:
I get your jist,but what I'm saying is that US ECMs are superior to any Russian ECM available.
Even if the F-15E meets SU-30 backed by AWACS,its likely to be a stalemate or outright victory.

You have verifiable proof of the technical capacity of each country's ECM performance ranking head to head vs each other?

patches689:
The missile so good that NO ONE HAS PURCHASED IT??

Nobody has purchased A-Darter except the producers. Nobody has purchased Meteor missile too. Mumu.

FighterPilot:
4000 Nigerian soldiers chickened out to fight skinny and hungry looking Boko Haram militants right inside their own turf, own country and own pride. Instead they chose to run away.

https://www.naij.com/439332-nigerian-army-to-dismiss-4000-soldiers-over-boko-haram.html

Not guilty soldiers. They made a genuine protest.

Your information is out-dated, the 3,000 Nigerian troops are back on the frontline killing Boko Haram like mosquitoes

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nigeria-reinstates-3-000-soldiers-dismissed-over-boko-haram-war-1213974

The whole SANDF has not found courage after 2 years to go back and defeat Seleka farmer rebels
.

EVarn:
I get your jist,but what I'm saying is that US ECMs are superior to any Russian ECM available.
Even if the F-15E meets SU-30 backed by AWACS,its likely to be a stalemate or outright victory.

Even the best pilots in the world don't judge ECM of countries they have not fought against. Nobody has fought an Su-3 Flanker in this world.

agaugust:
Not guilty soldiers. They made a genuine protest.

Your information is out-dated, the 3,000 Nigerian troops are back on the frontline killing Boko Haram like mosquitoes

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/nigeria-reinstates-3-000-soldiers-dismissed-over-boko-haram-war-1213974

The whole SANDF has not found courage after 2 years to go back and defeat Seleka farmer rebels
.

Where is another 1000 and over 100 who have been killed before firing squad? Cowards who deserves to be killed.

agaugust:
Nobody has purchased A-Darter except the producers. Nobody has purchased Meteor missile too. Mumu.

Sales of meteor missiles

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/saudi-arabia-purchases-meteor-missiles/


http://rafalenews..co.za/2011/01/france-purchases-200-meteor-missiles.html?m=1

agaugust:
Nobody has purchased A-Darter except the producers. Nobody has purchased Meteor missile too. Mumu.

Brazil purchased the a darter

Meteor is still in development

Patchesagain:
Brazil purchased the a darter

Meteor is still in development

There's also a third customer for A-Darter besides Brazil and SA.

FighterPilot:
Sales of meteor missiles

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/saudi-arabia-purchases-meteor-missiles/


http://rafalenews..co.za/2011/01/france-purchases-200-meteor-missiles.html?m=1

Fake air force officer, Meteor missile is still being developed, no air force has it.

Patchesagain:
Meteor is still in development

.

ssaengine:
There's also a third customer for A-Darter besides Brazil and SA.

Name the ghost customer. Maybe I am the buyer.

Patchesagain:
Brazil purchased the a darter

Meteor is still in development

That's what I said dummy, only A Darter producers have ordered it.

FighterPilot:
Where is another 1000 and over 100 who have been killed before firing squad? Cowards who deserves to be killed.

Citation needed to prove 100 have been killed. 1,000 still have their case under review for justice and fair hearing.

The 250 Elite Paratrooper SANDF cowards who ran away from Seleka teenage boys should have been executed by firing squad in Pretoria.

agaugust:
Citation needed to prove 100 have been killed. 1,000 still have their case under review for justice and fair hearing.

The 250 Elite Paratrooper SANDF cowards who ran away from Seleka teenage boys should have been executed by firing squad in Pretoria.

o really? So a 15 hour firefight is running away?

What then should we do to your army of 20 000 who ran away from Boko Haram for 4 years? they only stopped runnning when foreigners showed up and demonstrated what it means to fight!!

Or the 400 who were so terrified that they didnt stop running until they left nigeria!!

agaugust:
That's what I said dummy, only A Darter producers have ordered it.

Unlike the K-100.... which neither Russia nor India has ordered.

augustus

Draw an arrow on this picture where the IRST is

Because, when you realize where it is... then you realize why the F22 will win 90% of the time.

agaugust:
Citation needed to prove 100 have been killed. 1,000 still have their case under review for justice and fair hearing.

The 250 Elite Paratrooper SANDF cowards who ran away from Seleka teenage boys should have been executed by firing squad in Pretoria.

200 soldiers vs 4000 rebels, that's a record that has never happened anywhere.

agaugust:
Fake air force officer, Meteor missile is still being developed, no air force has it.


.

You are truly a dumb military researcher and fake one for that matter. We have never discussed anything about whether the missile is in development or not. All that we wanted to know was "did it receive orders from foreign customers or not" Qatar also placed orders of 140 missiles to arm their rafale jets with an inescapable missile worth over mach 4 speed.

In development or not the best BVR missile in the world has already received orders and enters service with Swedish gripens next year while Rafale pilots and others will have to wait atleast until 2018.


http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2015-06-19/meteor-target-service-next-year

patches689:
Unlike the K-100.... which neither Russia nor India has ordered.

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/denel-unit-targeting-big-revenue-uplift-as-part-of-five-year-restructuring-plan-2015-09-04

"Development of the first version of the A-Darter, a latest-generation IR-homing AAM, has been successfully concluded, with production due to start in South Africa soon. Developed in cooperation and cofunding with Brazil, the missile has already won an export order from an unidentified third country. (Brazil will start producing A-Darters later, the plan being to deliver the first missiles at the same time as the country receives its first Gripen E fighters.) Now, attention is switching to developing a Mark Two version of the missile and beyond that, a Mark Three. Also under consideration are an A-Darter Light model (for use by helicopters) and an A-Darter Ultralight, for UAVs."

So international customers are seeing the value of A-Darter. And I can tell you, through the grapevine that the number of customers
for A-Darter will not stop at 3. Many have visited Denel's Irene campus. Just a few political bottlenecks need to be sorted out first.

FighterPilot:
200 soldiers vs 4000 rebels, that's a record that has never happened anywhere.

Didn't you guys claim 600 soldier took over Lesotho?

iblawi:
Didn't you guys claim 600 soldier took over Lesotho?

That was in Bangui.

The ratio was 1:20.

Boko Haram attacks DSS kogi office and frees suspects.

http://www.punchng.com/news/boko-haram-attacks-kogi-dss-office-frees-30-suspects/

iblawi:
Didn't you guys claim 600 soldier took over Lesotho?

The initial invasion of Lesotho was with a number of approximately that strength

The BDF was late by a day or two... so when they arrived it was over. Another batch of SANDF were deployed to curb the civil unrest that spread through the country after the invasion

And here is footage from when 6 of 10 men we lost in Lesotho were killed - negotiations to hand over the palace broke down and the LDF opened fire on a group of soldiers standing infront of the gate. The palace was then stormed, LDF defenders were overpowered and rounded up. Note the massive ammount of restrain shown by the SANDF - they could have easily just sat back and shelled the palace into oblivion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvNt8btLGuk

and to the victors go the spoils

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdCvoZQMwM0

http://m.ewn.co.za/2015/09/27/Sandf-One-soldier-killed-in-a-rebel-ambush-in-Sudan

JOHANNESBURG - The South African National Defence Force (Sandf) says a South African soldier has been killed in a rebel ambush on a United Nations and African Union mission in Sudan.

Another soldier has been injured and is recovering in hospital.South African troops have been deployed in Sudan as part of the UN-AU mission in Sudan.

Sandf spokesperson Xolani Mabanga said, “They managed to repel the ambush but unfortunately one of our members died in the exchange of fire and another was seriously injured.”

SANDF

WHAT KIND OF A PROFESSIONAL ARMY DOES THIS?

https://www.nairaland.com/2627990/military-cuts-off-head-boko