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juicee1:
In the mind of the OP and his cohorts, building 4 storey equals to good living. They don't seem to know how uncomfortable it is to live in such houses and neighbourhood.

Imagine a 5 storey built on a plot of land. There won't be space for parking the cars owned by the occupants, no playground, no ventilation, intrusive neighbours who might even be sleeping with each other's wife, no privacy, hatred, unnecessary competition, heat etc.

You don't seem to know how enjoyable life is when you live in a bungalow with a spacious compound and a dog on guard. So much privacy.

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Even Osinbajo's uncle is running away from his room because of no windows and your talking about parking space

BuddahMonk:




So these apparition of muds here look spacious to you

Use your head now. So far habitable land is available just close by at a reasonable price, it doesn't make sense building an expensive storey building.

Till today, you can still get land in some parts of Ibadan at very economic price.

In places where land is limited and very expensive, building bungalows is a big waste.

Oyo state with a little part of Osun is geographically bigger than the entire 5 eastern states. You can check the map urself. Almost all states in the North are each geographically bigger than the entire 5 SE states.

Now i'm not talking about development oh, just land mass before u start unnecessary arguments.

Landuse in SE because of its small size can never be same in other parts of the country except wt those of similar population in relation to geographical landmass.

BankeSmalls:
See excuse ooo

This simply shows the population stats for nigeria is rubbish, if many ppl ar squeezing themselves to live in the east, and they still have millions to spare in Lagos and Kano, then we need to recount the people of this county.

Ibo is the tribe with the highest population

Quote me anywhere

Excuse for what? You guys are so funny. I'm not giving excuse, just stating the obvious. I thought this thread was for intelligent discussion as to the reason for the stated. I just realised it is another ego massaging thread.

Yinmu.Anyone that puts any SE state ahead of Lagos in this regard is living in a fool's paradise. Like someone else already stated, it is a no-brainer that land constraints are responsible for this SE preference for multiple storey buildings. #FACT.

For decades now the Igbos have RIGHTLY projected that if careful and proper planning isn't effected, they would quickly run out of land even for real-estate purposes, not to talk of farming, owing to the devastating combo of extremely high population density and inadequate land-mass to accommodate them all. As we speak land is already very expensive due to scarcity in those parts.

It's also part of the reason why they migrate out of their region more than any other tribe -- the land simply cannot accommodate them all, lest they out-compete and cannibalize themselves to oblivion. No amount of chest-beating can deny these simple facts.

agabusta:
Use your head now. So far habitable land is available just close by at a reasonable price, it doesn't make sense building an expensive storey building.

Till today, you can still get land in some parts of Ibadan at very economic price.

In places where land is limited and very expensive, building bungalows is a big waste.

Oyo state with a little part of Osun is geographically bigger than the entire 5 eastern states. You can check the map urself. Almost all states in the North are each geographically bigger than the entire 5 SE states.

Now i'm not talking about development oh, just land mass before u start unnecessary arguments.

Landuse in SE because of its small size can never be same in other parts of the country except wt those of similar population in relation to geographical landmass.

There are undeveloped land in SE than developed areas, from Awka to Enugu is almost an hour of forests and rivers with tiny villages but there is no city in Igboland that will take you 30 mins to run pass from begining to end.

There are more undeveloped land in East than developed places, so stop talking bullshiit, South West is barren, their saving grace is Lagos the rest is mud and dirty decayed zincs lose from houses in the East.

Land is more expensive in East than West but Easterners build more houses and modern architectures than Westerners, there more markets for building materials in East than West.

Your landmass is big for nothing

BankeSmalls:
See excuse ooo

This simply shows the population stats for nigeria is rubbish, if many ppl ar squeezing themselves to live in the east, and they still have millions to spare in Lagos and Kano, then we need to recount the people of this county.

Ibo is the tribe with the highest population

Quote me anywhere

I am a Niger Deltan, from Ibibio extraction. I alwas told my friends this but some keep on arguing. I draw my conclusion having being to more than 15 states in Nigeria. In Sokoto State, far north, where I lived close to 2 years, I was surprise to see that there are some streets that are predominantly Igbos. Should I talk about Lagos, Delta, Rivers, Kaduna, Plateau(their new world), Cross River, Akwa Ibom(my state), Benue, etc. Where can't they be found in large number. They are the dominant Nigerian group in diaspora. Without prejudice, Igbo is the most populated group in Nigeria, quote me anywhere.

Flyoruboy:
Yinmu.Anyone that puts any SE state ahead of Lagos in this regard is living in a fool's paradise. Like someone else already stated, it is a no-brainer that land constraints are responsible for this SE preference for multiple storey buildings. #FACT.

For decades now the Igbos have RIGHTLY projected that if careful and proper planning isn't effected, they would quickly run out of land even for real-estate purposes, not to talk of farming, owing to the devastating combo of extremely high population density inadequate land-mass to accommodate them all. As we speak land is already very expensive due to scarcity in those parts.

It's also part of the reason why they migrate out of their region more than any other tribe -- the land simply cannot accommodate them all, lest they out-compete and cannibalize themselves to oblivion. No amount of chest-beating can deny these simple facts.

Then South West with big landmass how spacious is this mud apparition, how spacious ??

Lawsimon:
I am a Niger Deltan, from Ibibio extraction. I alwas told my friends this but some keep on arguing. I draw my conclusion having being to more than 15 states in Nigeria. In Sokoto State, far north, where I lived close to 2 years, I was surprise to see that there are some streets that are predominantly Igbos. Should I talk about Lagos, Delta, Rivers, Kaduna, Plateau(their new world), Cross River, Akwa Ibom(my state), Benue, etc. Where can't they be found in large number. They are the dominant Nigerian group in diaspora. Without prejudice, Igbo is the most populated group in Nigeria, quote me anywhere.

Those Igbos you see there are in their few thousands, I wonder if there are up to 5million Igbos outside Igboland but they are virtually everywhere

BuddahMonk:
There are undeveloped land in SE than developed areas, from Awka to Enugu is almost an hour of forests and rivers with tiny villages but there is no city in Igboland that will take you 30 mins to run pass from begining to end.

There are more undeveloped land in East than developed places, so stop talking bullshiit, South West is barren, their saving grace is Lagos the rest is mud and dirty decayed zincs lose from houses in the East.

Land is more expensive in East than West but Easterners build more houses and modern architectures than Westerners, there more markets for building materials in East than West.

Your landmass is big for nothing

Guy, you must really think you are relating with your fellow ignoramus kinsmen when you make these sort of stupid assertions. Travel more please, possibly to other parts of the world and witness how other civilized people live, rather than come here spitting BS and acting a fool. The fact will always remain that the high incidence of multi-storey buildings in SE is no thanks to land-constaint. Lagos is a classic example in this respect. There are countless multi-storey estates in Lag than in any SE state and for obvious and justifiable reasons too. You're just a glorified villager. Your lack of intellectual depth and exposure betrays your ignorance. Smh.

agabusta:
Anywhere there is land constraint, they are bound to have more of storey buildings.

The SE states in some of their cities, have land constraints and as such will definitely focus their building on storey buildings. It's a simple logic.

The only state with such land constraint in the SW is Lagos, and as such, it boasts of more storey buildings than other SW states. Infact the whole of Lagos island is densely populated with storey buildings.

The North has enough lands and can afford to build bungalows sparsely. Storey buildings may only be ideal at dense commercial areas.

There is no land constraints in SE.

Flyoruboy:
Guy, you must really think you are relating with your fellow ignoramus kinsmen when you make these sort of stupid assertions. Travel more please, possibly to other parts of the world and witness how other civilized people live, rather than come here spitting BS and acting a fool. The fact will always remain that the high incidence of multi-storey buildings in SE is no thanks to land-constaint. Lagos is a classic example in this respect. There are countless multi-storey estates in Lag than in any SE state and for obvious and justifiable reasons too. You're just a glorified villager. Your lack of intellectual depth and exposure betrays your ignorance. Smh.

Let's talk about Oyo and Ogun not Lagos, are there nothing again outside Lagos a no man's Land.

Let's talk about Oyo, Ogun and Osun States , stop hiding behind Lagos.

How do these people get into their cubicles

BuddahMonk:
Then South West with big landmass how spacious is this mud apparition, how spacious ??

I repeat that you're an ignorant foo.l who tries too hard to sound intelligent yet end up exposing your village mentality. Please, your kinsmen are known globe-trotters, emulate them for a change and gain some much-needed exposure. You can flash that picture a million times, and it won't change the fact that you remain an ignoramus. The same Ibadan that accomdates those brown-roof has its high-brow areas and estates, and more than enough land-mass accomodating more modern architecture like the ones attached. You are just too stvpid for comfort. Smh.

agabusta:
Use your head now. So far habitable land is available just close by at a reasonable price, it doesn't make sense building an expensive storey building.

Till today, you can still get land in some parts of Ibadan at very economic price.

In places where land is limited and very expensive, building bungalows is a big waste.

Oyo state with a little part of Osun is geographically bigger than the entire 5 eastern states. You can check the map urself. Almost all states in the North are each geographically bigger than the entire 5 SE states.

Now i'm not talking about development oh, just land mass before u start unnecessary arguments.

Landuse in SE because of its small size can never be same in other parts of the country except wt those of similar population in relation to geographical landmass.

your write up is illogical, who told you that southeast don't have enough land mass for buildings? Have you been to any southeastern states before? All the states with big land mass is as well as big for nothing, Lagos is the smallest in land mass with the highest population in Nigeria and boosts of more structures than those big for nothing states, and been a coastal state still there are empty lands towards Ajah/Lakwe, Ikorodu etc.

BuddahMonk:
Let's talk about Oyo and Ogun not Lagos, are there nothing again outside Lagos a no man's Land.

Let's talk about Oyo, Ogun and Osun States , stop hiding behind Lagos.

How do these people get into their cubicles

Look, I refuse to waste my MB on your punk a$$ coz you're obviously a jobless e-tout who spends the best of his times here on Nairaland seeking ego-trips over unnecessary tribal altercations. Drop the joint (weed) for once, get a real job so you can't quit living your mom, get married, and start living responsibly for a change coz at this rate you're wasting your life while the rest of us are moving ahead in life. Smh again.

FKO81:
your write up is illogical, who told you that southeast don't have enough land mass for buildings? Have you been to any southeastern states before? All the states with big land mass is as well as big for nothing, Lagos is the smallest in land mass with the highest population in Nigeria and boosts of more structures than those big for nothing states, and been a coastal state still there is still empty lands towards Ajah/Lakwe, Ikorodu etc.

The guy is right FKO81. Let's take sentiments out of it. It's is an unofficial policy in that region to build multi-storey buldings due to the land constraints: #FACT. Hence the high cost of land. Infact, go to the Agric section of this board, while other regions like the SW are selling acres and hectares of land for as low as 20k for farming purposes, SE brethren are lamenting that they can't even get a single plot for 300k. That right there is a pointer. Look, it's an understandable policy which I commend too, but must you people illogically beat chest about everything? ?

BuddahMonk:
Those Igbos you see there are in their few thousands, I wonder if there are up to 5million Igbos outside Igboland but they are virtually everywhere

Bro I beg to differ. Without bias, what is the population of Igbo in Lagos and Rivers alone. Forget about their official census result. Everyone knows that census results are alway doctored.

BankeSmalls:
See excuse ooo

This simply shows the population stats for nigeria is rubbish, if many ppl ar squeezing themselves to live in the east, and they still have millions to spare in Lagos and Kano, then we need to recount the people of this county.

Ibo is the tribe with the highest population

Quote me anywhere

What the SE have is HIGH POPULATION DENSITY , due to it's small size. Only OYO STATE with 28,454 km² is very almost the total 5 SE with 29,095 km² states put together. kwara state with 36,825 KM² is way larger than the 5 SE states put together. NIGER STATE the largest with 76,363 KM² is nearly 3 times as large as the whole 5 SE states put together.

agabusta:
Anywhere there is land constraint, they are bound to have more of storey buildings.

The SE states in some of their cities, have land constraints and as such will definitely focus their building on storey buildings. It's a simple logic.

The only state with such land constraint in the SW is Lagos, and as such, it boasts of more storey buildings than other SW states. Infact the whole of Lagos island is densely populated with storey buildings.

The North has enough lands and can afford to build bungalows sparsely. Storey buildings may only be ideal at dense commercial areas.

south east is very small in terms of land mass....... almost size of benue state, that's why we're economizing land

juicee1:
...nd sells it to another who carry on the trend all because of scarcity of land. Is that what ibos are celebrating now? I won't be surprised if they base that as one of the reasons used to determine a rich state.

@OP Why put anambra ahead of lagos? I can bet it that the amount of storey buildings in just 5 housing estates in lagos surpasses the whole amount found in anambra.

Guys, remember that Oyo state is bigger than Southeast, so the storey buildings concentrated together in the small SE states doesn't mean they can be more what's obtainable in other large states.

Peace.

you are myopic.... have you been to(nkpor, odeakpu, ogidi, nkwere, obosi, awada, fegge, okpoko, odekpe)onitsha metropolis has highest concentration of tall residential buildings

[quote author=juicee1 post=38418490]In the mind of the OP and his cohorts, building 4 storey equals to good living. They don't seem to know how uncomfortable it is to live in such houses and neighbourhood.

Imagine a 5 storey built on a plot of land. There won't be space for parking the cars owned by the occupants, no playground, no ventilation, intrusive neighbours who might even be sleeping with each other's wife, no privacy, hatred, unnecessary competition, heat etc.

You don't seem to know how enjoyable life is when you live in a bungalow with a spacious compound and a dog on guard. So much privacy. [/quote fine and good given tokyo the city with world most high raised building in the world with over 30million people and that ur comfortable bungalow where ll u wanna live pls honest answer

EVILFOREST:
The WHO list for buildings.
......(that's, these are STATES that are currently punishing the EARTH with heavy duty buildings)

1) Anambra
2) Lagos
3) Abia
4) Enugu
5) Imo
6) Ebonyi
7) Rivers
Cross River
9) Edo
0) ? Delta/Ondo

I have been to all these states, cross river and Edo no follow.

FKO81:
They are deceiving themselves, when you travel to those states with big landmass you can hardly see decent building, what you will see thick forests and shanties

They can only tell people who haven't toured the southwest. I know who they are and know what they can do.

[quote author=Brooklynsouth post=38421082][/quote]It depends on the type of storey building you live in, I live in a five storey building, there is parking space, it's a four room flat apartments, u might not even know your neighbors.. it's cheaper 16k monthly rent.. in onitsha, Anambra state$

Unknowingly many Igbos are unaware of population pressure and its effect on building patterns. Like many pointed out we have limited land hence the preference for optimal use of land. Buddahmonk rightly pointed out tgat our cities are not expanding rapidly in landmass but are expanding rapidly in population hence the demolition and raising of higher houses.

juicee1:
...nd sells it to another who carry on the trend all because of scarcity of land. Is that what ibos are celebrating now? I won't be surprised if they base that as one of the reasons used to determine a rich state.

@OP Why put anambra ahead of lagos? I can bet it that the amount of storey buildings in just 5 housing estates in lagos surpasses the whole amount found in anambra.

Guys, remember that Oyo state is bigger than Southeast, so the storey buildings concentrated together in the small SE states doesn't mean they can be more what's obtainable in other large states.

Peace.

Bro, the number of 2,3,4 storey buildings in onitsha alone or enugu would outnumber the entire Oyo state, that is a fact. Except you've never been to onitsha.

juicee1:
...nd sells it to another who carry on the trend all because of scarcity of land. Is that what ibos are celebrating now? I won't be surprised if they base that as one of the reasons used to determine a rich state.

@OP Why put anambra ahead of lagos? I can bet it that the amount of storey buildings in just 5 housing estates in lagos surpasses the whole amount found in anambra.

Guys, remember that Oyo state is bigger than Southeast, so the storey buildings concentrated together in the small SE states doesn't mean they can be more what's obtainable in other large states

Peace.

Well u just said that igbos shouldn't boast becos of storey buildings, and u re desperately albeit failing to show that lagos and maybe oyo has more storey building. Stop being tribalistic about everything and being tribalcentric competitive, u re funny tho.

Guy easy nah, they no dey joke with you??

BuddahMonk:
Let's talk about Oyo and Ogun not Lagos, are there nothing again outside Lagos a no man's Land.

Let's talk about Oyo, Ogun and Osun States , stop hiding behind Lagos.

How do these people get into their cubicles

Flyoruboy:
The guy is right FKO81. Let's take sentiments out of it. It's is an unofficial policy in that region to build multi-storey buldings due to the land constraints: #FACT. Hence the high cost of land. Infact, go to the Agric section of this board, while other regions like the SW are selling acres and hectares of land for as low as 20k for farming purposes, SE brethren are lamenting that they can't even get a single plot for 300k. That right there is a pointer. Look, it's an understandable policy which I commend too, but must you people illogically beat chest about everything? ?

Anambra state with clusters of highrises still have enough land for Agriculture and industries, you can go through the pages to understand or better still come down to east, I have been to all western states, I just relocated to east early this year, sentiment apart there is no state in Nigeria you can see highly concentrated of four/five storey more than Anambra state

https://www.nairaland.com/1930337/anambra-state-light-nationeconomic-political/362

https://www.nairaland.com/1930337/anambra-state-light-nationeconomic-political/376

https://www.nairaland.com/2448794/picture-onitsha-trading-port-during

Lawsimon:
Bro I beg to differ. Without bias, what is the population of Igbo in Lagos and Rivers alone. Forget about their official census result. Everyone knows that census results are alway doctored.

First of all is that you need to know the population of Lagos before you start making out the number of Igbos. Lagos is not upto 8million people in population and Lagos population is migratory.

What people suffer in Lagos is lack of infrastructure per se not necessarily overpopulation.

Yes there are many Igbos outside Igboland but those in Igboland are more,

espionagesavvy:
I have been to all these states, cross river and Edo no follow.

I'm from Enugu state and I reside in Edo state.
Edo should be the first from behind..

Abagworo:
Unknowingly many Igbos are unaware of population pressure and its effect on building patterns. Like many pointed out we have limited land hence the preference for optimal use of land. Buddahmonk rightly pointed out tgat our cities are not expanding rapidly in landmass but are expanding rapidly in population hence the demolition and raising of higher houses.

Yes if you go to Fegge the old colonial bungalows have been demolished and new 5 story buildings are replacing them on weekly and monthly basis. That does not mean that Nnewi, Awka and other parts of Onitsha and East aren't developing.

Asaba is developing massively yet Enugu is ot standing still.

East developing more than anywhere, the paucity of land is not the reason because even in Igbo villages they still build duplexes and upstairs.

FKO81:
Anambra state with clusters of highrises still have enough land for Agriculture and industries, you can go through the pages to understand or better still come down to east, I have been to all western states, I just relocated to east early this year, sentiment apart there is no state in Nigeria you can see highly concentrated of four/five storey more than Anambra state

https://www.nairaland.com/1930337/anambra-state-light-nationeconomic-political/362

https://www.nairaland.com/1930337/anambra-state-light-nationeconomic-political/376

https://www.nairaland.com/2448794/picture-onitsha-trading-port-during

Look, we can argue this till tomorrow, but it won't change the glaring point here. There's a reason why the SE region is the most densely populated and it's coz of space/land-constraints. That much is an open secret. If your governments in the region don't diligently manage the remaining scarce land in the region, they will have to contend with some serious crises within the next two generations, unless many more migrate. Even when you talk of concentration of multi-storey buidings in Anambra in particular, Onitsha readily comes to mind. But the number of those high-rises in Onitsha city are nothing compared to what obtains all over Lagos state in general when you consider all those jakande and the countless housing projects that litter the state, you can't even compare pls. Perhaps you've not been around much of Lag hence why you're talking like this. I am not disputing that generally you all have more multi-storey residential buidings than probably most other parts of the country, the point here is the WHY, and the reason is obvious to any objective mind. It's a no-brainer really, and there's no point arguing.