dictbennie:

Speaking in tongues is the sign of being filled with the holy spirit? What happens to the other gifts of the spirit? Speaking in tongues is just one of the gifts..and the Bible made us understand in (acts14) that though speaking in tongues is good, prophesying is more desirable..I wonder the Bible translation that most of read seriously..

To your question, yes - speaking in tongues is the only sign that scriptures state that we are spirit filled. Now, the gift of speaking with diverse tongues is different from the sign of being spirit filled. One is a sign, the other is a gift. That's why when you operate the gift, you also need the interpretation.

This explains all you need to know....


https://www.nairaland.com/2628137/truth-speaking-tongues-holy-ghost

I think we are laying undue emphasis on speaking in tongues, Jesus Christ did not speak in tongues or make an issue of it.

If you say speaking in tongues is a sign one is filled with the holy spirit, then Jesus Christ was not, can you beat that?

whose report are we to believe, the Master's or his disciples'?

In another news, I viewed a post about the HAJJ tragedy that happened in Saudi Arabia, and got this message (pictured) when I tried to post a condolence.

Are we segregated on religious lines even on Nairaland?

derailed thread. a rancid show of division in Christianity. everyone has a hymn . everyone has a doctrine. everyone has knowledge. knowledge puffs men up.. but love.. o love... this thread was meant to get some souls caught up in d spirit. but now ..... God help us... God help me

left to me i think speaking in tongue is just the most obvious sign that one is filled...but its never the ONLY proof....being filled with the HOLY SPIRIT has much more contents than only tongues...tongue could just mean the force it took on you felt so great that u have to voice out(my thoughts though) but i strongly believe that there are other signs ...such as being BOLD...like the case of peter and john....the HOLY GHOST makes you very bold..amongst others

Profbrian:
The key sign of receiving the Holy Ghost is the zeal for Holiness and Evangelism and not speaking in tongues blah blah blah. One could fake that easily

..... dnt tlk like dt. "blah blah blah"

Dottore:
[size=15pt]There are many gifts of the Holy Spirit TO ME tongue is not the most important. Agreed that according to the Bible, speaking in tongues edifies one spirit but surprisingly the Almighty understands all languages both acquired tongues, mother tongues and even the devils tongues. And there's no evidence anywhere in the Bible that prayers are better answered when prayed in unknown tongues.
I'd rather go for the gifts I consider more evidently useful to me and beneficial to people around me like spiritual power, knowledge and prophecy.
Besides the tongue I considered exceptionally real gift is as recorded in Acts chapter 1 when the Holy Ghist fell on the apostles, it gave them power to speak in other languages they never learnt before so they could be able to preach to foreigners in the later own language thus making the spread of the gospel easier and more interesting.
I doubt if any christian has such power now. Imagine you speaking im Arabic in the midst of Arabs so u can communicate better in evangelism. That is what I consider spiritual gift not some verbose cacophony

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Please read Acts 2: 4-12 and 1Corinthians:14 for more understanding and guidance.[/size]

....bros calm down ...u need to understand this... paul said even though i "speak in tongues of men and of angels and i dnt have love..."....the holyspirit can hlp u to preach in the language of men evn though u didnt learn it. while u can speak in tongues not of men bt of angels ...speaketh mysteries to God...

if u dont like speaking in tongues and like prophecy and other power gifts.... u will only desire them ,u will never have it. ...how many preachers operating in power and prophesy and u dnt see them constantly on tongues? Go and ask of them what is the source of their gifts....they will tell u its praying in tongues...... mention one pastor that is operating under some dangerous anointing and u dnt see them tonguing.?

kennygee:


I still have pple who argue this with me.

It is a wonderful gift and it makes your Christian journey way easier

But it is not a criteria for getting to heaven.

A Christian who doesn't speak in tongues but is bornagain and lives in righteousness will make heaven and have many crowns depending on how well he or she evangelized

Meanwhile the tongue speaking brother or sister whose life didn't please God will enjoy a VIP ticket to hell.

.....true... but u see , we should not tlk just on tongues... we should tlk on the holyspirit... righteousness cometh from the holyspirit ...without him no righteousness

247notire:
Only ur good deeds, the love u showed while on earth will save u, fucck speaking in tongues man, it won't help ur heavenly race.

.....Sir thats not what the writer means .... he was just tlking about an aspect of the gift of the holyspirit... he did nt say tongues will make u get to heaven.....they is more to the holyspirit bt d writer just gave the a part of it.

lomprico:
So d only proof of holy ghost baptism is speaking in tongues?

...no sir... just dt most of the times that is wat we witness first b4 others

Ukeachu1:
derailed thread. a rancid show of division in Christianity. everyone has a hymn . everyone has a doctrine. everyone has knowledge. knowledge puffs men up.. but love.. o love... this thread was meant to get some souls caught up in d spirit. but now ..... God help us... God help me

Yeah, this is what one gets when one tries to pass across a message as clear as that. Even with the clear language and direct scriptural references, people still picked holes for whatever reason best known to them.

Jesus is LORD!

dictbennie:

Speaking in tongues is the sign of being filled with the holy spirit? What happens to the other gifts of the spirit? Speaking in tongues is just one of the gifts..and the Bible made us understand in (acts14) that though speaking in tongues is good, prophesying is more desirable..I wonder the Bible translation that most of read seriously..

..... u guys shuld nt use abusive words... like ... "translation"... the truth is that most of the times u cant access prophesy and other gifts without ...first accessing tongues... because it is through tongues u get d rest

Lamasta:
You don`t just wake up and start to pray for the gift of speaking in tongues the reason for the gift of the Holy Ghost for the speaking is tongue as Jesus put that ``And Ye shall receive power when the Holy Spirit is come upon You and TAKE NOTE ye shall be my witness in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the rest of the world.....
So if You know you are not ready to work for God don`t bother yourself except heaven choose you......

.....nice write up sir.... but heaven does not choose us....heven is just a place. its not a person.... it ws Jesus dt chose us... and for every believer that as receive him..,he will give the holyspirt to

Dottore:


My brother, the more you explain this the more you sound funny. I can't buy some lame excuse why people shouldn't covet the gift of communication in another language to make the spread of the gospel more effective. Thus no need looking for interpreters.
What have u achieved with the unknown tongue that you so much advocate for.
Won't you rather be equipped with:
power: you say things and it happens or pronounce healing upon a sick person.
Knowledge: you perform feats as if though they were your field of expertise.
Prophecy: you have a divine understanding and solution to what seems so mysterious and challenging to others.
Wisdom etc.
I can achieve a lot with these and help others as well.
Also let me ask you, how can you differentiate between real from fake tongues. Pls give examples of people you know that have real and fake tongues

...sir , all ur points are true but u cant really access power and prophesy without tongues......to know the satanic tongues from the angelic tongues is wen u hav discernment of spirits

Jozzy4:


Dont get emotional , calm down and answer his question . Can you speak in real tongues like the apostles did on pentecost ?

.... sir... u are very funny .. what kind of tongues did they speak?....even at cornelius house...peter said should we stop dis pple frm water baptism seeing dt der receive d holyspirit just as we did

Lovine:
What is the sign for the person who is not filled with the Holy Spirit?

. if they are christains? they will continue to do activities in d church without knowing God

talk2chixy:


My dear friend, ur good deeds cannot take u to heaven. Thats self righteouness. Only ur belief in Jesus Christ can take u to heaven. Even if u believe and act wrongly, u will still go to heaven bu suffer the repercussions of the wrong deeds here on earth.

Your sins when committed as a believer cannot over power the blood of Jesus shed on the cross for u.

Jesus is the ONLY way, the truth and the life

whr did u get this from.

ladyF:
Educating

I don put my pishure....lol check my profile for details

where is it,u r a liar

juligon:
.....Sir thats not what the writer means .... he was just tlking about an aspect of the gift of the holyspirit... he did nt say tongues will make u get to heaven.....they is more to the holyspirit bt d writer just gave the a part of it.

Sir, I'm talking about the big picture, the ultimate goal. So if it can't help me achieve the ultimate goal, why should I bother about it. Thr are a few other things too that are required with my aforementioned, but speaking in tongues ain't one of them.

The best gift is the gift of prophecy because it edifices the church. They is a ministry of tongues used in giving messages of edification using the gift of interpretation of tongues, they work together. Giving a message in tongues and interpretation using the gift of interpretation is different from praying in tongues as Paul teaches. What do you think Paul meant when he said he SPOKE WITH TONGUES MORE THAN THE WHOLE CORINTHIAN CHURCH and was even thanking God for it! I'll recommend you read this book by Kenneth E Hagin title WHY SPEAK WITH TONGUES https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxG4GB_ZAfspN2tFNzlGLUQ0U28/view?usp=docslist_api


Read the whole chapter of 1 Corinthians 14 meditatively

Dottore:


i most humbly ask sir, what have you achieved with tongues. Remember I never said its not good but my point is that one can achieve more using other gifts of the Holy Spirit and I'd rather go for those other gifts. And interestingly one must not speak in tongues to have the gifts so why go for the lesser

Very funny. Some of the best things in God appear as foolishness to confound the wise. The taste of the pudding is with the eating! Read the book and be filled yourself, then come back and tell us your experience!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxG4GB_ZAfspN2tFNzlGLUQ0U28/view?usp=docslist_api

Profbrian:
The key sign of receiving the Holy Ghost is the zeal for Holiness and Evangelism and not speaking in tongues blah blah blah. One could fake that easily

247notire:
Only ur good deeds, the love u showed while on earth will save u, fucck speaking in tongues man, it won't help ur heavenly race.

You're one of the people God was talking about here
Isaiah 28:11
For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Who ever invented the Word HEAVENLY RACE? Can't find it in the scriptures!

Good works? Cornelius was a very good man who was better in good works than me and you put together, yet he needed to be born-again to be justified by God! Feed on these scriptures, it will help you!

Romans 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

According to the Scriptures, YES!

lomprico:
So d only proof of holy ghost baptism is speaking in tongues?

Hey bro, would you like to go to Heaven? Yes am sure! How would you like to have Heaven in you? The Holy Spirit is God's gift to His children. Receiving him is very important. Any one filled with the Holy Spirit can manifest any of the 9 gifts. I've experienced 5 of the gifts and I still want more! The lesser is included in the greater!
Never loss your hunger for more of God!


Acts 2:38, ASV
“Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit”

Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Yes. Accept his FREE gift to you.

John 7
37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

1 John 4:13
Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

dictbennie:

Speaking in tongues is the sign of being filled with the holy spirit? What happens to the other gifts of the spirit? Speaking in tongues is just one of the gifts..and the Bible made us understand in (acts14) that though speaking in tongues is good, prophesying is more desirable..I wonder the Bible translation that most of read seriously..

mecuzee:
According to the Scriptures, YES!

Ok

juligon:
..... u guys shuld nt use abusive words... like ... "translation"... the truth is that most of the times u cant access prophesy and other gifts without ...first accessing tongues... because it is through tongues u get d rest

I have seen great men of God who don't speak but manifest the other gifts....so going by your analogy, what do you have to say about that..

mecuzee:



You're one of the people God was talking about here
Isaiah 28:11
For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Who ever invented the Word HEAVENLY RACE? Can't find it in the scriptures!

Good works? Cornelius was a very good man who was better in good works than me and you put together, yet he needed to be born-again to be justified by God! Feed on these scriptures, it will help you!

Romans 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Too long a story, bla bla bla. U know nothing. Read Mathew 25 v 34. Tell me what you
see. I'm waiting...

dictbennie:


I have seen great men of God who don't speak but manifest the other gifts....so going by your analogy, what do you have to say about that..

...give names.

247notire:
Sir, I'm talking about the big picture, the ultimate goal. So if it can't help me achieve the ultimate goal, why should I bother about it. Thr are a few other things too that are required with my aforementioned, but speaking in tongues ain't one of them.

...the fact that paul said seek greater gift... is not that a gift is greater than the other... but its because tongues only edifies the speaker. but prophesy edifies the church. dt dos not mean we shuld neglect tongues... he knew dt tongues is d first tin dt we encounter with the holyspirit most of the times... so he said instead of just stopping at tongues level lets move unto others so we can not just edify ur self bt edify d whole church

We're not JUSTIFIED (declared righteous) by good works! Ofcourse the bible teaches good works! Pls don't get me wrong. I believe in good works. Jesus said to let your light shine before men by your good works. Jesus himself went about DOING good and healing all that were oppressed of the devil. As a Christian it's in our nature to do good works cause we have the very nature of God (eternal life).

247notire:
Too long a story, bla bla bla. U know nothing. Read Mathew 25 v 34. Tell me what you
see. I'm waiting...

The Holy Spirit is God's gift to His children. Speaking with tongues is just an initial evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit. Any believer can manifest the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit. The lesser is included in the greater! Just receive Him first and enjoy all the blessings He will manifest in, with and through you. Quit arguing about tongues. Its a beautiful thing to be filled with God, you'll see the world different. Everything and everyone becomes beautiful to you. Then you understand what David meant when he said " the earth is filled with the glory of God" I repeat, the lesser is included in the greater (THE GREATER ONE)

juligon:
...the fact that paul said seek greater gift... is not that a gift is greater than the other... but its because tongues only edifies the speaker. but prophesy edifies the church. dt dos not mean we shuld neglect tongues... he knew dt tongues is d first tin dt we encounter with the holyspirit most of the times... so he said instead of just stopping at tongues level lets move unto others so we can not just edify ur self bt edify d whole church

It's possible, the Holy Spirit can manifest himself through anyone. Remember God spoke through a donkey in the old testament. However, am absolutely convinced that anyone God uses that is yet to be filled with the Holy Ghost will still be limited. If Paul, Peter, James, John and even Mary the mother of our Lord Jesus needed to be filled, trust me you too need to be filled

dictbennie:


I have seen great men of God who don't speak but manifest the other gifts....so going by your analogy, what do you have to say about that..