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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by kahal29: 1:36pm On Oct 02, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

The Sai Buhari thingy is more prominent in NW states. It has never really been so in the North Eastern states except 2015 with exception of Borno and Bauchi. Adamawa state has been flinging between Buhari and PDP candidate since 2003(Obj won it in 2003, Buhari won it in 2007, GEJ won it in 2011 and Buhari reclaimed it in 2015). Buhari has always been winning Yobe state except 2015. Taraba has been PDP since I can remember. Gombe was won by Buhari in 2011 but GEJ reclaimed it in 2015. You see that PDP have foot in the NE whether or not Buhari run. I want Buhari to run in 2019, I'm sure PDP will decimate him with a candidate of credibility.

As for the Igbos, they have no issue with being VP to the North because PDP has this North-South arrangement of 8years. After the North exhaust the 2tickets of PDP it will naturally move to the south. The SS has had the ticket twice, same with the SW. Tthe SE will naturally inherit the ticket if the PDP. We shall educate some of them that don't knw what is at stake.

PDP is the only party that provide opportunity to all nigerians to rise.

Which Gombe state did GEJ win in 2015? Check your figures again GMB won Gombe.

Below is Gombe result:
Gombe LGAs: 11
NO of POLITICAL PARTIES: 14
REG. VOTERS: 1,110,105
ACCR VOTERS: 515,828
AA: 104
AD: 169
ACPN: 192
ADC: 247
APA: 773
APC: 361,245
CPP: 407
HOPE: 46
KOWA:97
NCP: 227
PDP: 96,873
PPN:157
UDP:25
UPP:37
VALID VOTES:460,599
VOTES CAST: 473,444
REJECTED VOTES: 12,845
ELECTIONS AFFECTED:Akko,Balanga,Billiri,Dukku,Funakaye,Gombe,Kaltungo,Nafada, Yalmaltu/Deba
PUs INVOLVED: 73
VOTES AFFECTED:32,511

Secondly GMB have never lost in Kastina, yobe, Gombe, bauchi and bornu both in 2011 and 2015

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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:56pm On Oct 02, 2015
kahal29:


Which Gombe state did GEJ win in 2015? Check your figures again GMB won Gombe.

Below is Gombe result:
Gombe LGAs: 11
NO of POLITICAL PARTIES: 14
REG. VOTERS: 1,110,105
ACCR VOTERS: 515,828
AA: 104
AD: 169
ACPN: 192
ADC: 247
APA: 773
APC: 361,245
CPP: 407
HOPE: 46
KOWA:97
NCP: 227
PDP: 96,873
PPN:157
UDP:25
UPP:37
VALID VOTES:460,599
VOTES CAST: 473,444
REJECTED VOTES: 12,845
ELECTIONS AFFECTED:Akko,Balanga,Billiri,Dukku,Funakaye,Gombe,Kaltungo,Nafada, Yalmaltu/Deba
PUs INVOLVED: 73
VOTES AFFECTED:32,511
Thanks for this. I had to recheck and I saw that I interchanged the Presidential result with the Governorship result in Gombe state (where PDP won). I shall make amends.

As for Bauchi, Yobe, Katsina, Borno etc nowhere did I posit that GMB lost in 2011 or 2015. However, GMB lost Katsina in 2007 and Adamawa in 2011.
Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by Zikkyy(m): 2:44pm On Oct 02, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

PDP may not sweep North-East, but once we can retain Taraba, Gombe and get Adamawa state we are good to go. In the North Central, we are at pole position to reclaim the states of Kogi, Plateau and Benue. We all know that APC has been decimated in Kwara state because of the faction(Saraki n BAT). Nasarawa state also appears good! The only state that might be difficult is Niger. In the South West, we only need to retain Ekiti and Ondo states, while grabbing Osun state. Our 40% visibility in Lagos is a plus if it can be retained. With all these + the 11 states of the SESS, APC and Buhari is bound to suffer their worst defeat ever.

We must present candidate that can match Buhari credibility for credibility, and who has sterling antecedent. Ribadu is d man!

PDP winning the 2019 election will depend on PMB's performance and presidential candidate presented by both APC & PDP. Your analysis here is based only on the assumption that PMB will fail.

TonyeBarcanista:

With all these + the 11 states of the SESS, APC and Buhari is bound to suffer their worst defeat ever.

With a Northern candidate, PDP will loose votes in the SS. Your people in the SS will not really 'give a damn' about who wins the election between PDP & APC.

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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by aresa: 3:17pm On Oct 02, 2015
Why The North?


Preference For The North East:
In my opinion, it will be fair and just that the North East be allowed to present the presidential candidate for PDP in 2019. The reason being that the North East is the only region in Nigeria that is yet to produce president of this country. Fortunately for PDP, we have credible chieftain in the person of[b] Mallam Nuhu Ribadu (Adamawa)[/b] that has the personality, charisma and credibility to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with incumbent Muhammadu Buhari. We also have Governor Ibrahim Dankwambo of Gombe state.


South East Should Produce The Vice Presidential Candidate:

For the Vice Presidency of 2019, the South East deserve the slot to compensate for their loyalty to the party. Also considering that of the three regions in the South, only the SE that has not been on the joint Presidential ticket of the PDP since 1999. While the SW produced the presidential candidate in 1999 and 2003, the SS produced presidential candidate in 2011 and 2015, and VP candidate in 2007. Having a candidate from the SE in the 2019 ticket will be correct politically, morally and on the basis of equity.

While this joker proudly named northerners worthy enough to rule Nigeria, he couldn't give us or name any worthy or credible candidate or individual from the SE.

This of course wasn't an accident or innocent omission on his part, it's basically the general understanding in NIGERIA that there's not a single human being in the SE within the same worthless PDP Nigerians just rejected and banished credible or worthy enough to rule Nigeria.



And per the rest of his thoughtless and horseshit post, it's the same unintelligent and pointless nonsense...

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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by TonyeBarcanista(m): 3:35pm On Oct 02, 2015
Zikkyy:


PDP winning the 2019 election will depend on PMB's performance and presidential candidate presented by both APC & PDP. Your analysis here is based only on the assumption that PMB will fail.

PMB's performance is another issue! My analyses is based on political calculation. Should PMB fail (he's bound to) it makes it even more easier to rout him. For your information, performance of a leader is not a guarantee that opposition won't oust him. Kwankwaso perfomed so well in 1999-2003 but Shekarau ousted him because of Sai Buhari back up! Same Kwakwaso was re-elected in 2011.


Zikkyy:
With a Northern candidate, PDP will loose votes in the SS. Your people in the SS will not really 'give a damn' about who wins the election between PDP & APC.
My friend, I'm a full blooded Ijawman, I am telling you that SS people don't hate anybody. In 2011 we voted enmass for Yar'adua, in 2019 we'll vote enmass for Ribadu/Northern candidate especially when our cousin (Igbo) is in the ticket. It is a way of paying them back for their unflinching support to our brother GEJ, and also to reward PDP for being a true Nigerian brand instead of sectional brands like APC.
Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by Ugomba(m): 3:52pm On Oct 02, 2015
I doubt if Ribadu is that popular in the North to match Buhari.. PDP should also consider Bala Mohammed (former FCT Minister).
I admire Ribadu/osita chidoka or Akpabio for PDP 2019.
Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by M16: 3:52pm On Oct 02, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Permit me to educate you sir on politics.

That a man lost previous election does not necessarily mean he's irrelevant. The factors that led to his loss sho be well appreciated before forming opinion.

In 2003 GMB had 12million votes against Obasanjo. In 2007 he had 7 million votes against Yar'adua and even lost in Katsina state. In 2011 he lost Adamawa state to Jonathan, a state that he won in 2007. But in 2015 he won Adamawa and Katsina but lost Gombe state. What was responsible for this trend? And what kept his hope alive? He never lost Katsina in 2007 because Katsina people didn't like him, he lost because he was up against a very strong PDP and Yar'adua in 2007. He never lost Adamawa in 2011 because they didn't like him, he lost because Adamawa PDP then were united for GEJ and their house was in order.

In 2011 Ayo Fayose was defeated under LP in Senatorial election. Does that mean his district never liked him? He only lost because he was up against a united ACN and a not too popular LP. In 2014 he was elected Governor in an historic 16-0 against an incumbent. Why? The PDP were united in their support while the APc was split to APC and LP!
What kept him going? His likability.

Ribadu lost Adamawa state because PDP was heavily split into nPDP (that moved to APC), PDM and PDP. Even the leftover of PDP had crises as Bala Ngilari never supported Ribadu's emergence because of he wasn't carried along. The PDP National Chairman then also never managed it well. There was a lot of protest vote against Nuhu Ribadu. It in no way mean that Ribadu was irrelevant. His likability and credibility will work for him. All he need is a very strong PDP structure.

Let me also remind you that Ajimobi, Oyo state Governor had lost 2007 Governorship election before he was elected by the same people in 2011 and 2015. Same with Amosun.

I hope you have learnt

Cc: WhiteTechnology

With regards to educating me.You can't give what you don't have. Illusions of grandeur is what you suffering from. You ran from twitter and facebook (APC oooh)back to a forum where you spill BS.If you had any sense of shame and decency you would hide your head after the GEJ 2019 whopping and egg on your face, but you are back with your half baked and far from reality analysis.

Half knowledge they say is dangerous. he who doesn't know and thinks he knows is a compound f..l. You are still far far far from reality. What you don't realize is that all the times Buhari supposedly lost in the north was due to the massive rigging and State apparatus behind PDP.

The game changer is the card reader, with that that cannot happen again. You changed your screen name after the walloping you received from APC.
Quote me anyday& anywhere. Nobody come 2019 can defeat Buhari in the whole of Northern Nigeria. If we are alive 2019 If PDP looses, you will be banished from this forum. Go back to school and get educated about politics in Nigeria.

By the way Ribadu and i repeat Ribadu cannot win his street in Yola , not to talk of ward. You are not from Adamawa and it shows your level of understanding of politics. Zero

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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by Ugomba(m): 4:06pm On Oct 02, 2015
M16:


Quote me anyday& anywhere. Nobody come 2019 can defeat Buhari in the whole of Northern Nigeria.
the same Buhari that lost in the North 2003, 2007 and 2011.. Go and sit down.. That Ribadu lost Adamawa guber does not mean that he is not popular.. Two fulanis will slug it out in 2019 and the Northern votes will be divided, and PDP will win in the south.
Ribadu/Osita Chidoka 2019 or Ribadu/Akpabio 2019.
Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by Zikkyy(m): 4:32pm On Oct 02, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

PMB's performance is another issue! My analyses is based on political calculation.

I think you should consider performance. There will be no need for an election between PMB and Ribadu if PMB performs. It will simply be a waste of election materials and time. Benue, Kogi, Ondo, Ekiti, and other northern states you mentioned will not be voting PDP if PMP performs. I also don't see the incentive for the NC states voting against PMB with PDP also presenting a Muslim candidate. The problem is that you assume the NC states to be party loyal.

Its also very possible for APC to lose 2019 if they present a non performing PMB for 2nd term (that of course will depend on the candidate presented by PDP). I assume we are not considering the benefits to be derived from being the existing holder of political office (incumbency).

TonyeBarcanista:

For your information, performance of a leader is not a guarantee that opposition won't oust him. Kwankwaso perfomed so well in 1999-2003 but Shekarau ousted him because of Sai Buhari back up! Same Kwakwaso was re-elected in 2011.

...and you believe Ribadu has the qualities to oust a performing PMB in the North?
Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by Zikkyy(m): 4:45pm On Oct 02, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

My friend, I'm a full blooded Ijawman, I am telling you that SS people don't hate anybody.

This is true, even though there will always be exception.

TonyeBarcanista:

In 2011 we voted enmass for Yar'adua, in 2019 we'll vote enmass for Ribadu/Northern candidate especially when our cousin (Igbo) is in the ticket.

@ the bit highlighted in red font, the average SS person will not vote PDP simply because an Igbo man is on the ticket. And you know why? it is because they don't hate anybody. They will assess the Igbo man the way they would assess a yoruba or any other tribe.

TonyeBarcanista:

In 2011 we voted enmass for Yar'adua, in 2019 we'll vote enmass for Ribadu/Northern candidate especially when our cousin (Igbo) is in the ticket. It is a way of paying them back for their unflinching support to our brother GEJ, and also to reward PDP for being a true Nigerian brand instead of sectional brands like APC.

You honestly believe the average SS voter gives a damn about sectional or national brands!! It's obvious you don't know your people. The average SS voter is neither PDP nor APC, cash and/or influence (personalities) determines the direction of their vote.

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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by Zikkyy(m): 4:54pm On Oct 02, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

My friend, I'm a full blooded Ijawman, I am telling you that SS people don't hate anybody.

PDP loosing votes in SS if they present a northern Muslim in 2019 will not really be because of hatred for anybody, it will be because an SS man is not on the ticket (what i would call the 'our brother' factor).
Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by simplycarro: 5:09pm On Oct 02, 2015
Who are these SS people? An Auchi guy is as SS as an Ijaw guy by defintion, but I doubt if their political interest are always going to be same.
That word SS is just too vague to make any political meaning. It's better you say an Ijaw man, or a Bini than rather than lumping them together in a political space.

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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by LRNZH(m): 5:38pm On Oct 02, 2015
MORNDEW:
Chai!!! Guy u dey rili suffer. After election, u joined sececionists, dey tell us about lower Niger and other nonsense. Now u ar happy the same north wants to rule u again while u play second fiddle. U ar d most confused being i ve seen in my life. Just see ur life. Daily i pity u. U rant here about pdp wen they do somtin else. Even ochejoseph have a place in dis pdp u cry for more dan u. So after ss and SE shout pdp finish, and shout Apc northern party they still did not consider u guys worthy of Presidency. And here u are jubilating. May any of my child not be like you.

GBAM!
Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by agabusta: 6:10pm On Oct 02, 2015
OfoIgbo:
Yoruba hope of fielding a Yoruba in 2019 or 2023 has been destroyed by this deft move by PDP.

This is a masterstroke as Yoruba calculations have been seriously undermined.

Tinubu thought that supporting Buhari will earn him the presidency in due course as northerners will support Yoruba in return. But in actual fact, a northerner will always support yet another northerner, so Yoruba calculatiins have been upturned.

Actually, the Yorubas have completely lost out. The more I think of it, this is a wise move by SE/SS-controlled PDP. because whenever APC fields a Yoruba, PDP will field a northerner. My fellow Igbos who are looking at this move by PDP via a short term spectacle, will eventually appreciate the wizardry in this decision.

The bottomline is that Yoruba calculations, for which they betrayed a SS president have been utterly destroyed!!!!!


chai, you people and hatred for yoruba eh. cheesy cheesy

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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by LRNZH(m): 6:20pm On Oct 02, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
We all know that APC e-fans are threatened already! I don't care about APC's opinion, I only know that PDP will reclaim Aso rock. Bring on your propaganda and we'll match it with fact! Like I said, I don't care about APC's opinion.

Shema was a two term governor. Buhari popularity is majorly in the North West (notably Kano). He's also popular in NE but 'not like the NW'. PDP's hope is the NE and a fraction of NW. In fact, PDP won Adamawa in 2011 and lost plateau in 2015. I believe that reclaiming plateau and Adamawa won't be a hurculean task. Also retaining Gombe will be feasible with North-Easterner. Come to South West, we have a marketable Ribadu.

Pls free me abeg.

I stand by Ribadu Presidential candidacy!

By the time BH is fully wiped out from the NE under this dispensation... No other human in this country will surpass Buhari in the highest number of NE votes cone 2019.

Unless Buhari fails woefully (very very unlikely) or cannot/ chooses not to run, PDP should forget 2019. I can assure you that even Dankwambo will garner more votes than Ribadu in the NE come 2019.

But none of them can withstand Buhari as we know him.

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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by Smithkline555: 12:35pm On Oct 03, 2015
M16:


With regards to educating me.You can't give what you don't have. Illusions of grandeur is what you suffering from. You ran from twitter and facebook (APC oooh)back to a forum where you spill BS.If you had any sense of shame and decency you would hide your head after the GEJ 2019 whopping and egg on your face, but you are back with your half baked and far from reality analysis.

Half knowledge they say is dangerous. he who doesn't know and thinks he knows is a compound f..l. You are still far far far from reality. What you don't realize is that all the times Buhari supposedly lost in the north was due to the massive rigging and State apparatus behind PDP.

The game changer is the card reader, with that that cannot happen again. You changed your screen name after the walloping you received from APC.
Quote me anyday& anywhere. Nobody come 2019 can defeat Buhari in the whole of Northern Nigeria. If we are alive 2019 If PDP looses, you will be banished from this forum. Go back to school and get educated about politics in Nigeria.

By the way Ribadu and i repeat Ribadu cannot win his street in Yola , not to talk of ward. You are not from Adamawa and it shows your level of understanding of politics. Zero

Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by TonyeBarcanista(m): 5:44pm On Oct 12, 2018
This thread is my projection becoming reality...

Atiku/Obi ticket means NE/SE ticket

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Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by Swagaholic01: 5:55pm On Oct 12, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
This thread is my projection becoming reality...

Atiku/Obi ticket means NE/SE ticket



You still dey pdp? ?
Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by murphyibiam15(m): 6:21pm On Oct 12, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
This thread is my projection becoming reality...

Atiku/Obi ticket means NE/SE ticket


you did well
Re: PDP 2019 Zoning: A Good Step In The Right Direction by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:47pm On Oct 12, 2018
murphyibiam15:

you did well
May God grant the ticket success

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