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The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 9:32pm On Oct 01, 2015
This is compilation of some of the lies and false promises that are found in the bible. There are not in anyway the whole, but some. I will just put down direct quotations from the bibile to ensure fairness. Therefore, I will not entertain any gain-saying, hearsay or personal interpretation; likewise ferry-tales will not be accepted.

1 - Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. Mark 11:24-25

2 - And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. John 14:13-14

3 - On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. John 16:23-24

4 - If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. John 15:7

5 - It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. John 15:16

6 - And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." Matthew 21:21-22

7 - And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. Luke 11:9-13

8 - Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. Matthew 7:7-8

9 - Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. Matthew 18:19-20



Why do a lot of Christians ignore what "Jesus" actually says in the Bible and tend to add things to the actual words to make them say something else?

Anyone who honestly and truthfully read the quotes above, without adding to them, will clearly see that, that "Jesus" is not saying that God will think about your prayers. He says God will grant all your prayers. Clearly, God does not grant all prayers and this proves that, that "Jesus" was a habitual liar.

Thank you.

Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by Nobody: 9:38pm On Oct 01, 2015
Bro, as a muslim, you can goan die because you'll never understand anything in the bible, ka gane ko?

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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 9:45pm On Oct 01, 2015
It is good to know that only christians understand what is in the bible and then understand what is contained in other religions' books.

Since you understand the book, why not try explaining the lies, perhaps other christians will 'understand' the more?

mvalentine:
Bro, as a muslim, you can goan die because you'll never understand anything in the bible, ka gane ko?

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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by Medicis(m): 9:52pm On Oct 01, 2015
1 Corinthians 2:14 ►
New International Version
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

Verse 14. - The natural man. The Greek word is ψυχικὸς (psychical); literally, soulish, i.e. the man who lives the mere life of his lower understanding, the unspiritual, sensuous, and egoistic man. He may be superior to the fleshly, sensual, or carnal man, who lives only the life of the body (σωματικὸς); but is far below the spiritual man (πνευματικός). St. Paul (1 Thessalonians 5:23) recognizes the tripartite nature of man - body, soul, spirit. Receiveth not; i.e. "does not choose to accept." He judges them by the foregone conclusions of his own prejudice. Because they are spiritually judged. The organ for the recognition of such truths - namely, the spirit - has become paralyzed or fallen into atrophy, from neglect; therefore the egoist and the sensualist have lost the faculty whereby alone spiritual truth is discernible. It becomes to them what painting is to the blind, or music to the deaf. This elementary truth is again and again insisted on in Scripture, and ignored by sceptics (Romans 8:6, 7; John 3:3; John 6:44, 45; John 14:17; 2 Corinthians 4:3-6).

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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by joecooper(m): 9:56pm On Oct 01, 2015
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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 10:48pm On Oct 01, 2015
A SIMPLE ESCAPE ROUTE FOR THE GUILTY IS TO PLAY MAD..... grin grin grin

joecooper:
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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 8:23am On Oct 02, 2015
89 views, but no single Christian to proof that these aren't lies. What a shame.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by joecooper(m): 9:53am On Oct 02, 2015
Those WHO mocked the Name of JESUS :

Marilyn Monroe (Actress)
She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show.
He said the Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her.
After hearing what the Preacher had to say, she said:
'I don't need your Jesus'.
A week later, she was found dead in her apartment

John Lennon (Singer):
Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he said:
'Christianity will end, it will disappear.
I do not have to argue about
that.. I am certain.
Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, today we are more famous than Him'(1966).
Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ, was shot six times.

Tancredo Neves (President of Brazil ):
During the Presidential campaign,he said if he got 500,000 votes from his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency.
Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made President, then he died.

Cazuza (Bi-sexual Brazilian composer, singer and poet):
During A show in Canecio ( Rio deJaneiro ),
while smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some smoke into the air and said:'God, that's for you.'
He died at the age of 32 of LUNG CANCER in a horrible manner.

The man who built the Titanic
After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the Titanic would be.
With an ironic tone he said:
'Not even God can sink it'
The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic

Bon Scott (Singer)
The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang:
'Don't stop me; I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell'.
On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been choked by his own vomit.

So do any of you people out there know of other examples of people who mocked God? How did they later suffers God's punishment?

It's on youtube how Anton Lavey died, - an Angel showed him his life was all wrong and then he started saying, "somethings wrong..." and so of course he went to Hell.

And another person. Felix Manalo, started a whole new church / cult that mostly attacks Christianity and he made changes to the Bible and our beliefs in Jesus Christ. Check out this web page about him and his church: Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC)
- He died just like Judas Iscariot: FELIX Y. MANALO DIED LIKE JUDAS ISCARIOT - The Splendor of the Church

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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by truthman2012(m): 10:11am On Oct 02, 2015
rabzy01:
This is compilation of some of the lies and false promises that are found in the bible. There are not in anyway the whole, but some. I will just put down direct quotations from the bibile to ensure fairness. Therefore, I will not entertain any gain-saying, hearsay or personal interpretation; likewise ferry-tales will not be accepted.

1 - Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. Mark 11:24-25

2 - And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. John 14:13-14

3 - On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. John 16:23-24

4 - If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. John 15:7

5 - It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. John 15:16

6 - And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." Matthew 21:21-22

7 - And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. Luke 11:9-13

8 - Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. Matthew 7:7-8

9 - Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. Matthew 18:19-20



Why do a lot of Christians ignore what "Jesus" actually says in the Bible and tend to add things to the actual words to make them say something else?

Anyone who honestly and truthfully read the quotes above, without adding to them, will clearly see that, that "Jesus" is not saying that God will think about your prayers. He says God will grant all your prayers. Clearly, God does not grant all prayers and this proves that, that "Jesus" was a habitual liar.

Thank you.

Your questions summarized are:

1. Why do SOME pastors add charm to get done what they want?

2. You term Jesus whose name is the TRUTH (John 14:6) a liar due to your lack of knowledge as you said God does not answer all prayers.

Firstly, who was Jesus addressing? He was addressing the disciples who had dedicated their entire lives to God. He knew what they believed and their level of FAITH. Now tell me where any of the disciples prayed it was not answered.

It is only those who can live the kind of life lived by the disciples that are qualified for Jesus promise in those verses of the bible you cited. It has to do with the level of FAITH and DEDICATION, which those pastors who add something to God could not attain.

I tell you the truth, am a good example of Jesus answering prayers. If a Christian prayes and it is not answered, it is either the request is not the will of God for his life or his faith cannot carry his request.

Sin is a hinderance to prayers, it does matter you are a Christian. Infact the bible says God does not answer the prayer of a sinner (John 9:31)


Thoses verses have CONDITIONS attached to them to work. It is only those who can meet the conditions that it will work for.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 10:33am On Oct 02, 2015
1- I did not say God doesn't answer prayers.

2 - I just want know how many mountains YOU lifted and cast into the sea? (Mark 11:24-25). How about casting the Aso Rock into the Lagos Lagoon. Doesn't it sound a good idea grin grin grin grin grin

truthman2012:


Your questions summarized are:

1. Why do SOME pastors add charm to get done what they want?

2. You term Jesus whose name is the TRUTH (John 14:6) a liar due to your lack of knowledge as you said God does not answer all prayers.

Firstly, who was Jesus addressing? He was addressing the disciples who had dedicated their entire lives to God. He knew what they believed and their level of FAITH. Now tell me where any of the disciples prayed it was not answered.

It is only those who can live the kind of life lived by the disciples that are qualified for Jesus promise in those verses of the bible you cited. It has to do with the level of FAITH and DEDICATION, which those pastors who add something to God could not attain.

I tell you the truth, am a good example of Jesus answering prayers. If a Christian prayes and it is not answered, it is either the request is not the will of God for his life or his faith cannot carry his request.

Sin is a hinderance to prayers, it does matter you are a Christian. Infact the bible says God does not answer the prayer of a sinner (John 9:31)


Thoses verses have CONDITIONS attached to them to work. It is only those who can meet the conditions that it will work for.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 10:38am On Oct 02, 2015
IS THIS YOUR ANSWER? FINAL ANSWER?

NOW TAKE THIS:

IF JESUS COULD DO THESE TO THOSE PEOPLE YOU MENTIONED, WHY DID HE ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE MURDERED, KILLED, CRUCIFIED WITH CRIMINALS (AS YOU PEOPLE SAY) AND COULD NOT HELP HIMSELF?


joecooper:
Those WHO mocked the Name of JESUS :
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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by truthman2012(m): 11:16am On Oct 02, 2015
rabzy01:
1- I did not say God doesn't answer prayers.

2 - I just want know how many mountains YOU lifted and cast into the sea? (Mark 11:24-25). How about casting the Aso Rock into the Lagos Lagoon. Doesn't it sound a good idea grin grin grin grin grin


Muslims are carnal minded because they lack God's spirit and that is why they look at things from carnal perspective.

How many mountains did Jesus Himself cast into the sea? That should show you that the statement is figurative. It is talking about doing what is impossible to man.

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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 11:35am On Oct 02, 2015
Good. You should ask yourself not me, how many mountains did this man lifted and cast into the sea? before you believe that shit.

Know that, if you cannot lift ASO ROCK and CAST it into the LAGOON for me, you YET TO BELIEVE. grin

Figurative speech? Who told you that? I need the biblical reference.

So there figures of speech in the bible, are there figures of speech in the Quran?


truthman2012:


Muslims are carnal minded because they lack God's spirit and that is why they look at things from carnal perspective.

How many mountains did Jesus Himself cast into the sea? That should show you that the statement is figurative. It is talking about doing what is impossible to man.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by truthman2012(m): 12:16pm On Oct 02, 2015
rabzy01:
Good. You should ask yourself not me, how many mountains did this man lifted and cast into the sea? before you believe that shit.

Know that, if you cannot lift ASO ROCK and CAST it into the LAGOON for me, you YET TO BELIEVE. grin

Figurative speech? Who told you that? I need the biblical reference.

So there figures of speech in the bible, are there figures of speech in the Quran?


You don't compare the Bible with the quran. The Bible is from Yahweh and the quran from allahh who copied some words from the bible.

Allahh became known about 650 years after Jesus had gone. Before then the meccans knew him as one of the idols in Kaaba. Even now allahh is worshiped in islam after they have promoted to the status of their true God the same way he was worshiped when he was an idol.

Read: https://www.nairaland.com/2287893/allah-loves-pagans-hates-jews

Besides, the quran cannot be understood without the Bible as no details are given about the key prophets it stole from the Bible. Again, it is incomplete on its own without reference to hadiths.

The same Bible you want to paint black is the standard your quran manipulatively recommended for Muhammad:

Quran 10:94] - And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.

How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers (Quran 5:43). Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah.

Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers (Quran 5:47). The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date.

Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord (Quran 5:71). How could Allah say Jew and Christian should stand fast by the Law and Gospel if they have been corrupted?

Now, what is your problem with the Bible.

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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by joecooper(m): 12:39pm On Oct 02, 2015
rabzy01:
IS THIS YOUR ANSWER? FINAL ANSWER?

NOW TAKE THIS:

IF JESUS COULD DO THESE TO THOSE PEOPLE YOU MENTIONED, WHY DID HE ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE MURDERED, KILLED, CRUCIFIED WITH CRIMINALS (AS YOU PEOPLE SAY) AND COULD NOT HELP HIMSELF?



..... Then I think you missed the part that says " He arose"
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 1:03pm On Oct 02, 2015
Poor you. I thought you will give me a date to come and watch you LIFT ASO ROCK AND CAST IT INTO THE LAGOS LAGOON!!!!!

Here you are trying to divert the topic. This thread is not for comparison between bibble and the Qur'an. If you like you can open a thread for that. Here we are discussing the LIES OF JESUS IN THE BIBBLE.

Would you mind proving that they are not lies?


truthman2012:


You don't compare the Bible with the quran. The Bible is from Yahweh and the quran from allahh who copied some words from the bible.

Allahh became known about 650 years after Jesus had gone. Before then the meccans knew him as one of the idols in Kaaba. Even now allahh is worshiped in islam after they have promoted to the status of their true God the same way he was worshiped when he was an idol.

Read: https://www.nairaland.com/2287893/allah-loves-pagans-hates-jews

Besides, the quran cannot be understood without the Bible as no details are given about the key prophets it stole from the Bible. Again, it is incomplete on its own without reference to hadiths.

The same Bible you want to paint black is the standard your quran manipulatively recommended for Muhammad:

Quran 10:94] - And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.

How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers (Quran 5:43). Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah.

Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers (Quran 5:47). The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date.

Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord (Quran 5:71). How could Allah say Jew and Christian should stand fast by the Law and Gospel if they have been corrupted?

Now, what is your problem with the Bible.




Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 1:07pm On Oct 02, 2015
joecooper:



..... Then I think you missed the part that says " He arose"


Is that not after the deed is done?

Of what importance is his raising after he was OVER POWERED AND KILLED BRUTALLY BY HIS ENEMIES?
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by truthman2012(m): 2:02pm On Oct 02, 2015
rabzy01:
Poor you. I thought you will give me a date to come and watch you LIFT ASO ROCK AND CAST IT INTO THE LAGOS LAGOON!!!!!

Here you are trying to divert the topic. This thread is not for comparison between bibble and the Qur'an. If you like you can open a thread for that. Here we are discussing the LIES OF JESUS IN THE BIBBLE.

Would you mind proving that they are not lies?


But you intended to change my thread from Islamic Angels Are Wiser to discussion about satan.

I think allahh knows a little better than you or you know better than him and that is why you are condemning the Scripture he recommended to Muhammad.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by trapQ: 4:35pm On Oct 02, 2015
GADDAFFI (former president of LIBYA)

Sent a letter to prophet TB joshua on the matters at hand.
The prophet replied that GOD said to tell him to hand over power, and the tyrant rained abuses, saying who is the prophet to tell him what to do.

He died shortly after. A rather humiliating and shameful death.
joecooper:
Those WHO mocked the Name of JESUS :

Marilyn Monroe (Actress)
She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show.
He said the Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her.
After hearing what the Preacher had to say, she said:
'I don't need your Jesus'.
A week later, she was found dead in her apartment

John Lennon (Singer):
Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he said:
'Christianity will end, it will disappear.
I do not have to argue about
that.. I am certain.
Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, today we are more famous than Him'(1966).
Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ, was shot six times.

Tancredo Neves (President of Brazil ):
During the Presidential campaign,he said if he got 500,000 votes from his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency.
Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made President, then he died.

Cazuza (Bi-sexual Brazilian composer, singer and poet):
During A show in Canecio ( Rio deJaneiro ),
while smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some smoke into the air and said:'God, that's for you.'
He died at the age of 32 of LUNG CANCER in a horrible manner.

The man who built the Titanic
After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the Titanic would be.
With an ironic tone he said:
'Not even God can sink it'
The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic

Bon Scott (Singer)
The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang:
'Don't stop me; I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell'.
On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been choked by his own vomit.

So do any of you people out there know of other examples of people who mocked God? How did they later suffers God's punishment?

It's on youtube how Anton Lavey died, - an Angel showed him his life was all wrong and then he started saying, "somethings wrong..." and so of course he went to Hell.

And another person. Felix Manalo, started a whole new church / cult that mostly attacks Christianity and he made changes to the Bible and our beliefs in Jesus Christ. Check out this web page about him and his church: Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC)
- He died just like Judas Iscariot: FELIX Y. MANALO DIED LIKE JUDAS ISCARIOT - The Splendor of the Church
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 4:43pm On Oct 02, 2015
With these apparent LIES, I know non of you will can prove any because the more you try, the more lies you invent.

YOUR CAN'T COVER FALSEHOOD WITH FALSEHOOD HERE.

Allah DID NOT, I repeat, Allah did not recommend this book by Paul to anyone.

When are you going to LIFT ASO ROCK AND CAST IT INTO THE LAGOON? DON'T FORGET TO INVITE ME PLEASE.

truthman2012:


But you intended to change my thread from Islamic Angels Are Wiser to discussion about satan.

I think allahh knows a little better than you or you know better than him and that is why you are condemning the Scripture he recommended to Muhammad.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by malvisguy212: 4:45pm On Oct 02, 2015
rabzy01:
Good. You should ask yourself not me, how many mountains did this man lifted and cast into the sea? before you believe that shit.

Know that, if you cannot lift ASO ROCK and CAST it into the LAGOON for me, you YET TO BELIEVE. grin

Figurative speech? Who told you that? I need the biblical reference.

So there figures of speech in the bible, are there figures of speech in the Quran?


carnal minded man you are, muslims claimed they believe in miracle but in reality , they don't , muslims feel embarrassed to know that All the prophet performed miracle except muhammed, this is nothing but a big blow to muslims. I know you will say "the quran is a miracle" nonsense, should we say Shakespeare is a miracle ? Delude muslim.

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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 4:49pm On Oct 02, 2015
Why do these people like telling and believing in lies?

So Gaddafi died becouse he refused to adhere to TB's advise?

Was TB the only one that advised Gaddafi to hand over?

Can you show us a copy of the letter from Gaddafi and the reply from TB?


trapQ:
GADDAFFI (former president of LIBYA)

Sent a letter to prophet TB joshua on the matters at hand.
The prophet replied that GOD said to tell him to hand over power, and the tyrant rained abuses, saying who is the prophet to tell him what to do.

He died shortly after. A rather humiliating and shameful death.

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Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by malvisguy212: 4:50pm On Oct 02, 2015
rabzy01:
With these apparent LIES, I know non of you will can prove any because the more you try, the more lies you invent.

YOUR CAN'T COVER FALSEHOOD WITH FALSEHOOD HERE.

Allah DID NOT, I repeat, Allah did not recommend this book by Paul to anyone.

When are you going to LIFT ASO ROCK AND CAST IT INTO THE LAGOON? DON'T FORGET TO INVITE ME PLEASE.

okay.

Quran 16:44
[We sent them] with clear proofs and
WRITTEN ordinances. And We revealed to
you the message that you may make
clear to the people what was sent down
to them and that they might give
thought.
I'm sure the muslims know the quran
was not revealed in writing. Therefore
the 'writings' above refers to the earlier
Scriptures. The written proved their
MUST be copies going on circulation.
okay!!!
I challenge ALL muslims to answer the
following questions, if properly
answered, you will discovered soo many
lies has been told against God word:
1. At what point did the people corrupted
the Torah and Injeel, was it BEFORE
islam, during Muhammad's time of
AFTER him?
2. If it was before islam, why would Allah
refer Muhammad to something that is
non-existent to make confirmation?
3. If it was after Muhamad had died, how
was he able to receive the revelation that
the Scripture (Torah and Injeel) has been
corrupted?
4. The quran confirms that the Scripture
was a clear proof in writings. This means
there were copies in circulation. How
possible all copies vanished without
anyone having a copy anywhere? You
should by now discover a lie is told.
5. Why would God be so weak as to allow
man throw away His words before He
would vow to protect the subsequent
revelations? Did He learn from
experience?
6. Why will God ask muhammed to make
confirmation of the corrupted scripture
(injeel and torah) ? https://www.nairaland.com/2535883/allegedly-corrupted-scripture-questions-muslims
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 4:57pm On Oct 02, 2015
No need for abusive language now.
I only posted some verses from your bibble which say you can do so many things and I called them lies. I then asked you to prove to me that they are not lies by performing just one out of the so many. I said lift ASO ROCK AND CAST IT INTO THE LAGOS LAGOON. Instead, you resort to abuses in order to cover your shameful face.

Would you please help your brother TRUTHMAN2012 LIFT ASO ROCK AND CAST IT INTO THE LAGOON?

If you can't do it just keep quite. lipsrsealed

malvisguy212:
carnal minded man you are, muslims claimed they believe in miracle but in reality , they don't , muslims feel embarrassed to know that All the prophet performed miracle except muhammed, this is nothing but a big blow to muslims. I know you will say "the quran is a miracle" nonsense, should we say Shakespeare is a miracle ? Delude muslim.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 5:16pm On Oct 02, 2015
This is a thread for lift ASO ROCK. Is either you LIFT ASA ROCK AND CAST INTO THE LAGOON OR KEEP QUIET.

Go to the thread you qouted your questions should be addressed there. Or better still open a thread for answers to your questions

malvisguy212:
okay.

......,..................

(injeel and torah) ? https://www.nairaland.com/2535883/allegedly-corrupted-scripture-questions-muslims
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by malvisguy212: 5:51pm On Oct 02, 2015
rabzy01:
No need for abusive language now.
I only posted some verses from your bibble which say you can do so many things and I called them lies. I then asked you to prove to me that they are not lies by performing just one out of the so many. I said lift ASO ROCK AND CAST IT INTO THE LAGOS LAGOON. Instead, you resort to abuses in order to cover your shameful face.

Would you please help your brother TRUTHMAN2012 LIFT ASO ROCK AND CAST IT INTO THE LAGOON?

If you can't do it just keep quite. lipsrsealed

okay, I will lift aso rock for you, but first go there ,I will joined up with you , when you reach , take a picture of you and aso rock post it to nairaland, when I see it , I'll know you are there, I'll meet you there.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by malvisguy212: 5:52pm On Oct 02, 2015
^^^ bible say answer a FOOL according to his FOLLY.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 6:06pm On Oct 02, 2015
Is it you bibble that says so?

malvisguy212:
okay, I will lift aso rock for you, but first go there ,I will joined up with you , when you reach , take a picture of you and aso rock post it to nairaland, when I see it , I'll know you are there, I'll meet you there.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 6:09pm On Oct 02, 2015
IS THIS YOUR ANSWER?
FINAL ANSWER?

NOW THAT YOU CAN'T LIFT THE ROCK, YOU PRESORTED TO ABUSES AS USUAL.

Go lift the goddam rock or remain silent.

tongue tongue tongue tongue

malvisguy212:
^^^ bible say answer a FOOL according to his FOLLY.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by jcross19: 6:39pm On Oct 02, 2015
rabzy01:
Good. You should ask yourself not me, how many mountains did this man lifted and cast into the sea? before you believe that shit.

Know that, if you cannot lift ASO ROCK and CAST it into the LAGOON for me, you YET TO BELIEVE. grin

Figurative speech? Who told you that? I need the biblical reference.

So there figures of speech in the bible, are there figures of speech in the Quran?


now i know that your brain is equal to fish brain. When bible says they shall separate sheep from goat!!! Is that not figurative?. Well come to my place and see how i use the name of jesus to deal with your alfas now they see cant even greet me , even my land lord call me sire because is feeling the heat of my prayers upon his yantu, jinns, incantations and charm around his waist.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by rabzy01: 9:14pm On Oct 02, 2015
Why not deal with me here in nairaland by LIFTING ASO ROCK?

If you can't lift ASO rock, can you try lifting that rock in Akure and cast it in the lagoon?

If you can't, then you are not a full believer.

Before then answer this: since there are figures of speech in the bubble, are there any in the Qur'an?

jcross19:
now i know that your brain is equal to fish brain. When bible says they shall separate sheep from goat!!! Is that not figurative?. Well come to my place and see how i use the name of jesus to deal with your alfas now they see cant even greet me , even my land lord call me sire because is feeling the heat of my prayers upon his yantu, jinns, incantations and charm around his waist.
Re: The Lies Of Biblical Jesus Christ As Recorded By The Authors by lampardizik(m): 9:48pm On Oct 02, 2015
There are laws for everything dude

The sooner you understand that,the better for everyone

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