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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by chino11(m): 1:03pm On Oct 11, 2015
He didn't weaken anything? Democrats are known for dialogue and covert operations while Republicans are known to be offensive when need arises. I see a Republican winning the next general election.

Putin is already presiding over a weak economy, so its not all about throwing bombs indiscriminately. He has to understand that economy and war has direct relationship. He is just acting up to be reckoned with.



Symphony007:
In trying to correct the mistakes of the bush administration, obama has greatly weakened america's prestige and power in the world but in years to come, we will know if it was worth it and if russia was the one that miscalculated.
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by PhockPhockMan: 2:14pm On Oct 11, 2015
omenka:
And how do you know the comments are from "Americans" You see why I insist you are an illiterate??

America and Russia are no doubt currently in a proxy war and inching ever closer to an open confrontation everyday the Syrian war drags on. Just as it did in Ukraine, Russia seeks to consolidate her "presence" in the world stage by the statement they are making in Syria showcasing some of their most advanced armaments, some of which I believe Uncle Sam had no idea existed, especially their Radio equipment designed to intercept and disrupt radio and radar signals .

At the moment, I guess no one can really place a definitive bet on what Putin's end game is, but whatever it is, it is gonna ultimately decide the trajectory of events in post war Syria and a large part of Middest.

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Symphony007: 3:10pm On Oct 11, 2015
chino11:
He didn't weaken anything? Democrats are known for dialogue and covert operations while Republicans are known to be offensive when need arises. I see a Republican winning the next general election.

Putin is already presiding over a week economy, so its not about throwing bombs indiscriminately. He has to understand that economy and war has direct relationship. He is just acting up to be reckoned with.



actually, he has. Democrats are known for diplomacy but when u.s interest and prestige is challenged democrat presidents like bill Clinton, FDR, JFK, LBJ never retreated. The Cuban missile crisis which was the greatest face off in world history happened under democrats john kennedy.

Obama has a deep seated philosophical objection to military action and he believes he was elected to end the wars in iraq and afganistan, not to start one in Syria for his successor to inherit. This has made America seem weak in the eyes of the world after years of bravado foreign policy. Now, history might judge obama right for preserving the u.s from another war after 10 years of wars and 18 trillion in debt. But the fact now is that their is a vacuum of power in the world, and the opportunist, putin. Is taking great advantage of it, weather it makes or mare him is get to be seen.
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Fleshly: 3:48pm On Oct 11, 2015
Symphony007:
actually, he has. Democrats are known for diplomacy but when u.s interest and prestige is challenged democrat presidents like bill Clinton, FDR, JFK, LBJ never retreated. The Cuban missile crisis which was the greatest face off in world history happened under democrats john kennedy.

Obama has a deep seated philosophical objection to military action and he believes he was elected to end the wars in iraq and afganistan, not to start one in Syria for his successor to inherit. This has made America seem weak in the eyes of the world after years of bravado foreign policy. Now, history might judge obama right for preserving the u.s from another war after 10 years of wars and 18 trillion in debt. But the fact now is that their is a vacuum of power in the world, and the opportunist, putin. Is taking great advantage of it, weather it makes or mare him is get to be seen.

But Kennedy retreated, during the Cuban missile crisis.

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Symphony007: 3:53pm On Oct 11, 2015
Fleshly:


But Kennedy retreated, during the Cuban missile crisis.
wrong, Kennedy never retreated. Nikita kruchev pulled back the nukes from getting to Cuba, cause if it did not according to Kennedy, the u.s will launch the first strike.
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Fleshly: 4:46pm On Oct 11, 2015
Symphony007:
wrong, Kennedy never retreated. Nikita kruchev pulled back the nukes from getting to Cuba, cause if it did not according to Kennedy, the u.s will launch the first strike.

What did US do when their B2 spy plane was shot down? Why did Kennedy agree in principle not to invade Cuba? Why did the U.S. Remove their missile installations from Turkey and

http://fff.org/2015/01/08/communists-won-cuban-missile-crisis/ (The communist won the Cuban missile crisis)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-margolis/who-really-won-the-cuban-missile-crisis_b_1981613.html (who really won the Cuban missile crisis)

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Lucasbalo(m): 4:58pm On Oct 11, 2015
chino11:
That's Republicans, they don't tolerate nonsense. Bush 1 & 2 are Republicans too, they don't talk too much but deal with you.

With the way things are going around the world, Americans are likely to push for a Republican to be the next president because the only language they understand is offensive and what is needed now is offensive to neutralise the enemy camps.


You are absolutely wrong. The main reason Obama beat McCain in 2008 election was America rejection of the worthless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those two wars has a destablizing effects on Americans and bastardized the economy too. Towards the end of Bush term in office, America was hemorhaging about 700.000 jobs a month and the Dow Jones went down to 7.000 points. Americans turned against the war and that's why it will be difficult for a Republican to win the next Presidential election. It's a big debate going on now in both Republican and Democratic primaries on now. Americans are tired of wars according to all the polls.
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Tkester: 4:58pm On Oct 11, 2015
Fleshly:


What did US do when their B2 spy plane was shot down? Why did Kennedy agree in principle not to invade Cuba? Why did the U.S. Remove their missile installations from Turkey and

http://fff.org/2015/01/08/communists-won-cuban-missile-crisis/ (The communist won the Cuban missile crisis)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-margolis/who-really-won-the-cuban-missile-crisis_b_1981613.html (who really won the Cuban missile crisis)


Many like symphony are not versed in history, people just talk out of emotions and not based on facts.

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by chino11(m): 5:12pm On Oct 11, 2015
That is what am talking about. Democrats are mainly diplomatic unlike the Republicans that does not waste time talking too much. It is embedded in each parties books. It represent their ideologies. I see Republicans winning the next election because McCain has set the ball rolling by his statement. America needs to keep calling the shot around the world that is the point McCain was making.

Lucasbalo:
You are absolutely wrong. The main reason Obama beat McCain in 2008 election was America rejection of the worthless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those two wars has a destablizing effects on Americans and bastardized the economy too. Towards the end of Bush term in office, America was hemorhaging about 700.000 jobs a month and the Dow Jones went down to 7.000 points. Americans turned against the war and that's why it will be difficult for a Republican to win the next Presidential election. It's a big debate going on now in both Republican and Democratic primaries on now. Americans are tired of wars according to all the polls.
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Lucasbalo(m): 5:26pm On Oct 11, 2015
chino11:
That is what am talking about. Democrats are mainly diplomatic unlike the Republicans that does not waste time talking too much. It is embedded in each parties books. It represent their ideologies. I see Republicans winning the next election because McCain has set the ball rolling by his statement. America needs to keep calling the shot around the world that is the point McCain was making.

Americans rejected McCain and his ilks when it comes to Presidential elections. Americans have seen the horrors of war and overwhelming majority abhors war if America is not attacked. Two of my nephews served in Iraq and still have psychological effects on both that one of them relocated to canada. Remember thousands of young Americans died needlessly for a war that's about nothing. McCain is a senile old man that's doing the bidding of war profiteers like Halliburton, oil companies and what we call ( MIC) Military Industrial Complex. FYI, the next Presidential election is going to a Democrat if Republicans keep singing their jingoistic views. I am one American that loathes war. Middle East is a cursed area and Putin can have that place if he wants. I just want America out of that religious hell hole on earth.

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by BALLOSKI: 6:05pm On Oct 11, 2015
OZAOEKPE:
"Death to America". Quote me anywhere
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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Adminisher: 6:11pm On Oct 11, 2015
This McCain was one of the Idiots who criticized and forced the hands of Obama to intervene in Libya and Syria. Obama was extremely reluctant to overthrow another country'so government no matter how unacceptable. The GCC countries, Europe and large tribes in Syria almost turned the US into a stupid mercenarto country if they has sent troops.
The winner in Syria is not Russia or Iran. It is Assad whom everybody thought was a pushover but alas No.
He started winning when ISIS broke sideways to seize a large part of Iraq.

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by BALLOSKI: 6:15pm On Oct 11, 2015
omenka:
Exactly what I imagine, but at a very huge cost.

It will take some time given that the biggest power houses in the region, UAE/Saudi Arabia, Qatar, are close allies of the US. Iran as well seems to be warming up to the US given the Nuclear Deal recently signed by both parties.

I think the member states of the region might consider Russia a more helpful ally especially with respect to dealing with the ever growing trend of radical Islamic terrorism in the region. US has a terrible reputation for training and arming radical groups and rebels all in a bid to upstage governments that refuse to be their puppets and that has created the mess we see in the region.

Still waiting to see the Chinese make their move.

Time will tell.
you are wrong on Iran. Even the shiite fighters russian fighter jets provide cover for are mostly from Iran and are funded by the Iranian govt. These fighters go against FSA(american boys) and ISIL as well, so dont expect US to be in good term with Iran. Iran didn't get all they wanted in the deal, so they are even acting to spite the US. You know the greatest support Assad get comes from Iran; so the US wont find an ally in Iran anytime soon.
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by BALLOSKI: 6:18pm On Oct 11, 2015
Adminisher:
This McCain was one of the Idiots who criticized and forced the hands of Obama to intervene in Libya and Syria. Obama was extremely reluctant to overthrow another country'so government no matter how unacceptable. The GCC countries, Europe and large tribes in Syria almost turned the US into a stupid mercenarto country if they has sent troops.
The winner in Syria is not Russia or Iran. It is Assad whom everybody thought was a pushover but alas No.
He started winning when ISIS broke sideways to seize a large part of Iraq.
because of US and how they trained those terrorists, I was forced to support assad.
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Nobody: 6:24pm On Oct 11, 2015
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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by overhypedsteve(m): 7:34pm On Oct 11, 2015
chino11:
That's Republicans, they don't tolerate nonsense. Bush 1 & 2 are Republicans too, they don't talk too much but deal with you.

With the way things are going around the world, Americans are likely to push for a Republican to be the next president because the only language they understand is offensive and what is needed now is offensive to neutralise the enemy camps.


lol. Funny you. You think Americans are not tired of spending their money and losing the lives of their love ones in foreign oversea missions? SMH. You think say Americans are all warmongers?

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by overhypedsteve(m): 7:38pm On Oct 11, 2015
Symphony007:
wrong, Kennedy never retreated. Nikita kruchev pulled back the nukes from getting to Cuba, cause if it did not according to Kennedy, the u.s will launch the first strike.
funny you. At the point of the Cuba missile standoff Russia did not have the capability to launch any strike on US without a long range bomber aircraft. But with the invention of ICBM's nobody have the first strike capability monopoly
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by overhypedsteve(m): 7:47pm On Oct 11, 2015
Fleshly:


What did US do when their B2 spy plane was shot down? Why did Kennedy agree in principle not to invade Cuba? Why did the U.S. Remove their missile installations from Turkey and

http://fff.org/2015/01/08/communists-won-cuban-missile-crisis/ (The communist won the Cuban missile crisis

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-margolis/who-really-won-the-cuban-missile-crisis_b_1981613.html ([color=#550000]who really won the Cuban missile crisis
)
those are very ambiguous citations you are giving and they do not represent any form of authority on the topic. The US and Russia were the only two Super powers after the world war so it is reasonable for the US to avoid the then communist Russia considering her capability but the post 1991 Russia was a weak Russia and was of little threat to a US that had already established military bases around her.

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by wonu18: 8:17pm On Oct 11, 2015
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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Nobody: 8:25pm On Oct 11, 2015
He should hold his peace.

Russia is trying to clean their covert mess.

Besides who invited their sloppy participation into the crisis?

Russia was invited by the legitimate president of Syria going by their constitution.

America should stop making it seem as if they are the people who love the Syrians more than anyone else.

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by benjsniper33: 4:27pm On Oct 14, 2015
Symphony007:
wrong, Kennedy never retreated. Nikita kruchev pulled back the nukes from getting to Cuba, cause if it did not according to Kennedy, the u.s will launch the first strike.

JFK was totally innocent of all aggression , he actually opposed the invasion of Cuba and also he was against the aforeplanned invasion of Vietnam
He was mainly assassinated because of his peaceful and non-aggressive stance which the "illuminati" are against

Pls goggle the "pigs bay invasion"

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by fineguy11(m): 4:41pm On Oct 14, 2015
who gives a f*ck what this former PRISONER OF WAR thinks ...

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Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Adminisher: 5:00pm On Oct 14, 2015
This empty short handed old Senator should shut up.
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Blackfire(m): 6:27pm On Oct 14, 2015
chino11:
He didn't weaken anything? Democrats are known for dialogue and covert operations while Republicans are known to be offensive when need arises. I see a Republican winning the next general election.

Putin is already presiding over a weak economy, so its not all about throwing bombs indiscriminately. He has to understand that economy and war has direct relationship. He is just acting up to be reckoned with.





there is this conspiracy theory that if a republican wins, and with there war like nature, enter the syrian war in full,and a likely confrontation with putin's russia.
Then the chinese enter with there numbers, robust economy to back up russia, at the end of 3 years madness , america is greatly reduced... Guess who is coming out of this situation a winner?
Re: It's Humiliating That Russia Is Now Dictating To USA In Syria, Senator Mccain. by Nobody: 6:35pm On Oct 14, 2015
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