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Goshen360:
Look, the problem is, you can defend these guys and their allies all the way. I, personally care less but my personal issue is, I will stand for the truth even if it's my pastor that preaches error.

Creflo, by that statement made it look as if the ONLY reason why Jesus died is for us to lay hold on FINANCIAL PROSPERITY, WEALTHY LIVING. I do say Christians should be poor but we've talked about this before, scripture prosperity goes beyond just money but these guys keep yapping money money as if money is everything.

A man narrows on what he wants to achieve for the people. If I teach on Soul winning , I should focus on it as though that's all jesus die for. Same way if I teach against sickness or failure . Etc. You can't judge a man's message by o e post. I've heard him teach on charity,attitude ,holines ,character,marriage ,diligence etc . And other topics .

Joagbaje:
And what is disgusting there ? You complain Christian are poor , then someone's comes to teach them how to prosper and shows them what's available to them . We call it disgusting.

What is disgusting is peddling false hope and making millions while at it. Catholics shamelessly sold indulgences.

Nobody complains abo Christians being poor, poverty is is fact of life for both heathens and believers.

He is not teaching them how to prosper bu how to surrender the little they have to him.

Ever thought it through? If the principles worked, he would sow all he has including t aging jet and reap 100-fold in this life!

But he does not, instead he wants you pampering him, meeting all his whims

vooks:
There are rumors and then there are tweets

Why should i?

...because it's not proper in a civil discussion.

vooks:
What is disgusting is peddling false hope and making millions while at it. Catholics shamelessly sold indulgences.

False hope is hope based on falsehood. Are you saying the gospel is unable to make one materially rich, or the blood of Jesus on the cross didn't cover material prosperity?

Nobody complains abo Christians being poor, poverty is is fact of life for both heathens and believers.

Poverty isn't supposed to be in the life of the new creation. Bible said we're complete in Him...why do we have poor believers today? Simple... Lack of knowledge.

He is not teaching them how to prosper bu how to surrender the little they have to him.

You're a liar.

Ever thought it through? If the principles worked, he would sow all he has including t aging jet and reap 100-fold in this life!

No such thing as a hundred fold increase. Read my thread on Midas touch by Kenneth Hagin.

But he does not, instead he wants you pampering him, meeting all his whims

You's a silly comedian.

[quote author=Gombs post=38900477][/quote]As though looking for my errors. You know, to you guys, if it's not taught or agreed with what's being taught in CE, then it's error.

You should know better what I intended to type. I don correct the typo error.

vooks:
What is disgusting is peddling false hope and making millions while at it.

That's your personal opinion and judgement . And that doesn't make your judgement of him right . Many people in Nigeria have been blessed by his teaching on TV. How many of them have sent money to him?

Nobody complains abo Christians being poor

We read it here all the time.

poverty is is fact of life for both heathens and believers.

That's a message from hell . In my opinion . But you're entitled to yours . Just as creflo is entitled to him. You believe in poverty ,someone else believes in prosperity. Let everyone face his calling. Let God be the judge

He is not teaching them how to prosper bu how to surrender the little they have to him.

How many people in Africa who had been blessed by him surrenders their money to him? Did he demand we send money to him. What's the point of the baseless accusation . Even if they do . Is anyone complaining?

Ever thought it through? If the principles worked, he would sow all he has including t aging jet and reap 100-fold in this life!

But he does not, instead he wants you pampering him, meeting all his whims

Did he say he doesnt give? That's where prosperity critics miss it. Any teacher of prosperity must first be a giver . Why not search and see the giving which he has done ? The message they teach must first work for them

Joagbaje:
Did he say he doesnt give? That's where prosperity critics miss it. Any teacher of prosperity must first be a giver . Why not search and see the giving which he has done ? The message they teach must first work for them

If it's working for him, he won't need to start begging people for money to buy Jet. Even our Nigerian pastorpreneurs didn't have to do appeal fund to buy their own jets.

To be Honest,
Many of these Pastors never follow the examples of the Apostles.

Hardly did any writer of the epistles emphasized material prosperity.
I have searched and searched and searched in have never found.

There was no instruction to even pray for material things in the Epistles.

There is very very little emphasis on materials things throughout the Epistles.

Many Pastors that we have today never follow these examples.

Its so so disappointing.

Apostle was Paul who wrote more than 2/3 of the epistles.
His prayers were much more emphatic on "REVELATION KNOWLEDGE" emphasis was much more laid on knowing the office of Christ.

See Eph1:16-23,
Eph3:14-21,
Col1:9-11,
Phillipians1:9-11,
Philemon1:6,

there was also emphasis on Ministry,
preaching and teaching sound doctrine.
Read 1tim,2tim,Titus.

There is very very very little or no emphasis on material things.

Paul simply affirmed God's faithfulness to provide our needs in
Philippians 4:19.

Cc vooks,Gombs,Goshen360.

Image123,Joagbaje

^^
Stop mentioning me in your posts.

Thanks

Annunaki:
If it's working for him, he won't need to start begging people for money to buy Jet. Even our Nigerian pastorpreneurs didn't have to do appeal fund to buy their own jets.

It's not a personal jet. It's a ministry jet. But I can speak for him on that, neither can you .

sportsmaster:
To be Honest,
Many of these Pastors never follow the examples of the Apostles.

Hardly did any writer of the epistles emphasized material prosperity.
I have searched and searched and searched in have never found.

There was no instruction to even pray for material things in the Epistles.

There is very very little emphasis on materials things throughout the Epistles.

Many Pastors that we have today never follow these examples.

Its so so disappointing.

Apostle was Paul who wrote more than 2/3 of the epistles.
His prayers were much more emphatic on "REVELATION KNOWLEDGE" emphasis was much more laid on knowing the office of Christ.

See Eph1:16-23,
Eph3:14-21,
Col1:9-11,
Phillipians1:9-11,
Philemon1:6,

there was also emphasis on Ministry,
preaching and teaching sound doctrine.
Read 1tim,2tim,Titus.

There is very very very little or no emphasis on material things.

Paul simply affirmed God's faithfulness to provide our needs in
Philippians 4:19.

Cc vooks,Gombs,Goshen360.

Image123,Joagbaje

God bless you. You see, I've noticed one thing especially with people like Gombs and Joe and their allies, they will depend anything coming out from their pastor or organization irrespective of sound doctrine. So, most times, I stay out of argument with them because their mind is made up already.

Gombs:
^^
Stop mentioning me in your posts.

Thanks

Why can't nobody mention you? Does your I'd has immunity against anyone mentioning you or calling you out?

Goshen360:
Why can't nobody mention you? Does your I'd has immunity against anyone mentioning you or calling you out?

He should just stop mentioning me in his posts... Is it too much to ask?

Gombs:
He should just stop mentioning me in his posts... Is it too much to ask?

It's not too much to ask but you're involved in this discussion so why he can't mention you? Anyway, nothing do you! You have a right or just ignore the mention.

Joagbaje:
It's not a personal jet. It's a ministry jet. But I can speak for him on that, neither can you .

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sportsmaster:
To be Honest,
Many of these Pastors never follow the examples of the Apostles.

Hardly did any writer of the epistles emphasized material prosperity.
I have searched and searched and searched in have never found.

There was no instruction to even pray for material things in the Epistles.

There is very very little emphasis on materials things throughout the Epistles.

Many Pastors that we have today never follow these examples.

Its so so disappointing.

Apostle was Paul who wrote more than 2/3 of the epistles.
His prayers were much more emphatic on "REVELATION KNOWLEDGE" emphasis was much more laid on knowing the office of Christ.

See Eph1:16-23,
Eph3:14-21,
Col1:9-11,
Phillipians1:9-11,
Philemon1:6,

there was also emphasis on Ministry,
preaching and teaching sound doctrine.
Read 1tim,2tim,Titus.

There is very very very little or no emphasis on material things.

Paul simply affirmed God's faithfulness to provide our needs in
Philippians 4:19.

Cc vooks,Gombs,Goshen360.

Image123,Joagbaje

Paul was VERY aggressive on charity but very reserved on being pampered.

Modern pastas behav like Martin Luther King Jnr in advocating for their rights to be supported, right which they abuse enrichi themselves in the process.

Paul in 1Cor9 says he ha used NONE of these rights. Yet modern pastas want you to believe that supporting them is the key to prosperity!!

Why did Paul resist support from the poor if the same held keys out of th misery?

Goshen360:
God bless you. You see, I've noticed one thing especially with people like Gombs and Joe and their allies, they will depend anything coming out from their pastor or organization irrespective of sound doctrine. So, most times, I stay out of argument with them because their mind is made up already.

Catholics believe in Papal Infallibility an we think they are 'bound' but these hyper-pentecostals would rather commit sepukku than entertain the possibility of their pastas are wrong.

There's no difference between them and Mormons; their leaders are as inspired as Paul if not more

Goshen360:
God bless you. You see, I've noticed one thing especially with people like Gombs and Joe and their allies, they will depend anything coming out from their pastor or organization irrespective of sound doctrine. So, most times, I stay out of argument with them because their mind is made up already.

Scriptures has always been my reference not "MY PASTOR SAY"