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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by demarc001: 9:09pm On Oct 14, 2015
mikedimeji:


Which deeds are we talking about, why are u flexing ur muscle on the subject matter, why are u so particularly about Fashola. If u like rant more than this e no carry water. People have embezzled billions in this country where are they, Becos of some millions that u have refused to carry out ur proper investigation about u are here disturbing our peace on nairaland Becos u think u know how to write, go ahead and stop him from being a minister now.



See as you mumu, so now that it is Fashola you don't see it as kworopsion abi?

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:09pm On Oct 14, 2015
MayorofLagos:


Not only that, Fashola was not under oath at the ministerial review, he was at an interview....a job interview, so how did self-indictment get into this

Tonyebarcanista, I need you to enrol with me and shadow me while I mentor you on political wizardry. You are too impulsive, you run over yourself in your excitement and rush to push points across. I must warn you that our political pulse in Nigeria demand a bit of caution and reserve. Increasingly you are exhibiting signs of extremism and fanaticism that are out of character with my brothers from the Oil protectorates.
Baba mentor, we go discuss mentorship later but let's face the subject at hand. I'm always avalaible to learn sir!

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by Nimen(m): 9:10pm On Oct 14, 2015
basty:

You are a daft wailer. Can you compare Fashola to Oduah. Idiotic bush fellow.
You a fool... Can you compare Diezan Allison-Madueke to Bola Ahmed Tinubu

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by stildude(m): 9:10pm On Oct 14, 2015
owobokiri:
One of the most compounding hypocritical realities of Nigerias politics is the brazen double standards deployed at every turn by some perennial clannish thinkers to defend their benefactors irrespective of his/her glaring shortcomings while castigating "devils" elsewhere. Totally nonplussing.. How else can you explain a situation where the same bunch of evil minds who yesterday were jumping up and down, celebrating the death of Almasiegha as a good thing for Nigerias fight against corruption end up constituting the group vociferously defending Tinubu while pushing Fashola.com as Obama and Kennedy rolled into one that will save Nigeria? This guy is totally corrupt, was caught with his hands in the cookie jar and held Lagos state down while a Tinubu injected with heroin raped mercilessly. Now you APC vagabonds will make him a minister while bleating "change".. Are you guys naturally this double-faced or you chose to be so
don't mind them. That's how fashola will approve one yeye project without any people or institutional benefit for billions as minister, and tell us later if he's probed that he didn't sign any check. Stupid people.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by Nobody: 9:10pm On Oct 14, 2015
owobokiri:
One of the most compounding hypocritical realities of Nigerias politics is the brazen double standards deployed at every turn by some perennial clannish thinkers to defend their benefactors irrespective of his/her glaring shortcomings while castigating "devils" elsewhere. Totally nonplussing.. How else can you explain a situation where the same bunch of evil minds who yesterday were jumping up and down, celebrating the death of Almasiegha as a good thing for Nigerias fight against corruption end up constituting the group vociferously defending Tinubu while pushing Fashola.com as Obama and Kennedy rolled into one that will save Nigeria? This guy is totally corrupt, was caught with his hands in the cookie jar and held Lagos state down while a Tinubu injected with heroin raped mercilessly. Now you APC vagabonds will make him a minister while bleating "change".. Are you guys naturally this double-faced or you chose to be so
.

God bless you my brother.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by izzyu(m): 9:10pm On Oct 14, 2015
mikedimeji:


Which deeds are we talking about, why are u flexing ur muscle on the subject matter, why are u so particularly about Fashola. If u like rant more than this e no carry water. People have embezzled billions in this country where are they, Becos of some millions that u have refused to carry out ur proper investigation about u are here disturbing our peace on nairaland Becos u think u know how to write, go ahead and stop him from being a minister now.

you are a just a tribal propagandist. that;s what you are.,

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by 49cents(m): 9:10pm On Oct 14, 2015
owobokiri:
One of the most compounding hypocritical realities of Nigerias politics is the brazen double standards deployed at every turn by some perennial clannish thinkers to defend their benefactors irrespective of his/her glaring shortcomings while castigating "devils" elsewhere. Totally nonplussing.. How else can you explain a situation where the same bunch of evil minds who yesterday were jumping up and down, celebrating the death of Almasiegha as a good thing for Nigerias fight against corruption end up constituting the group vociferously defending Tinubu while pushing Fashola.com as Obama and Kennedy rolled into one that will save Nigeria? This guy is totally corrupt, was caught with his hands in the cookie jar and held Lagos state down while a Tinubu injected with heroin raped mercilessly. Now you APC vagabonds will make him a minister while bleating "change".. Are you guys naturally this double-faced or you chose to be so

When I read intelligent rejoinder like yours, I find it needless to comment

Though I had commented on a related, earlier thread where some mindless lads and lasses where hailing Fashola to the skies and I didnt get it!

It was then that what you just wrote dawned on me on double standards and clannish sentiments got to me

Nigeria is a joke that benefits the so-called political elites and the mega rich! This system is far from workable;

My standard of assessing governace has been in creative management leadership which has a strong vison that it "drags" it's even unwilling citizens to see and not just one that is purely adminstrative

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by kaziblake(f): 9:12pm On Oct 14, 2015
Tonye av really notice ur articles are always against apc,just get ur fact right b4 stating d obvious.as a youth of dis country,u are supposed to be antipartitian and appreciate good things.fashola was really direct in answering his question even d senate were listening to him attentively.if buhari does something dat is right appreciate him instead of coming here to rant or go and meet him in aso rock instead of coming here to wail

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by olapluto(m): 9:12pm On Oct 14, 2015
The same way retweets and favourites deceived a certain Ayedee into believing he was smart, that is the same way a certain NL mod is propelling this guy. He is at best an average thinker, no striking analysis, but lavishly given an undeserved platform.
I quite understand he excites the remnants of the TAN folks, but is it not glaring by now that ALL his analysis hold no water? Is this not the same guy who was calling election results from the South West like a blind man arguing about football`?

Seun save this forum and find a way to bring back the intelligent political discussions and stop promoting watery arguments.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by saintandsinnerz: 9:12pm On Oct 14, 2015
Larryjay4u:
Op maybe u need to listen to the interview again. He mentioned they scrapped the tender board process (which u quoted extensively) when the procurement act was enacted. Please u need to educate us on the procurement act procedure then
At least this is refreshing! At the end somebody with a brain who can engage constructively without calling of names. Thanks very much for bringing this up, I have learnt something from both arguments. As for you simple minded bigots who attacks the op for raising an intelligent argument should borrow a leaf from this poster. He was able to counter the Op constructively

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by luvinhubby(m): 9:12pm On Oct 14, 2015
MayorofLagos:


Stella Oduah was summoned for an investigation looking into mismanagement. As a Federal Minister the Senate has jurisdiction on her accountability. She was put under oath.

Fashola was a State Governor, the Nigerian Senate has no jurisdiction on his case in Lagos State. Simple!
Nobody asked under what conditions they were being grilled, the actions of both under similar circumstances at different times and offices is what is been compared, how does the two differ?

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by izzyu(m): 9:13pm On Oct 14, 2015
olapluto:
The same way retweets and favourites deceived a certain Ayedee into believing he was smart, that is the same way a certain NL mod is propelling this guy. He is at best an average thinker, no striking analysis, but lavishly given an undeserved platform.
I quite understand he excites the remnants of the TAN folks, but is it not glaring by now that ALL his analysis hold no water? Is this not the same guy who was calling election results from the South West like a blind man arguing about football`?

Seun save this forum and find a way to bring back the intelligent political discussions and stop promoting watery arguments.

tribal propagandists on the loose.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by elvisco44: 9:13pm On Oct 14, 2015
Wailing wailer!
Hang urself with indomie...@OP If e easy u for be senator nao Blablabla...
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by MayorofLagos(m): 9:14pm On Oct 14, 2015
Firefire:


Lagos State sir!

Submit a citizen complaint to Lagos State House of Assembly.

In addition you can also sue on behalf of citizens of Lagos and initiate a tribunal review in the case.

Have you done any of these?

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by teamchocolate: 9:14pm On Oct 14, 2015
Nope the car issue is not the only matter! What about the airports she said she renovated?? See pple will never complain when the impact of service delivery is felt...

Compare nigerian airports to foreign airports and u will take cane and flog oduah, renovation indeed!


demarc001:


You MUMU! Fashola and Oduah who has more questioning issues? If you don't know, the car issue is the only accusation against Oduah.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by cristog120: 9:14pm On Oct 14, 2015
basty:


You are a daft wailer. Can you compare Fashola to Oduah.
Idiotic bush fellow.
WHAT DID ODUA DO TO U EWU? A BULLET PROOF CAR APPROVED AND PROPERLY ADVISED BY HER MINISTRY DIRECTORS WAS PURCHASED? HER ONLY CRIME WAS STEPPING ON WICKED TOES PERIOD AND HER WORK SPEAKS VOLUME

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by Nobody: 9:14pm On Oct 14, 2015
[quote author=izzyu post=38989112]

just shut up.with all due respect I am not hear to insult anybody but if u try spit trash I promise to give it back 2 u..mtchewwww.. nonsense
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by MayorofLagos(m): 9:17pm On Oct 14, 2015
luvinhubby:

Nobody asked under what conditions they were being grilled, the actions of both under similar circumstances at different times and offices is what is been compared, how does the two differ?

Do not compound a simple issue of legal jurisdiction.

Stay on topic and stop pulling sidecars into discussion. Steallah Oduah is a sidecar. The subject here is on Fashola.

Cc: tonyebarcanista
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by Firefire(m): 9:17pm On Oct 14, 2015
49cents:


When I read intelligent rejoinder like yours, I find it needless to comment

Though I had commented on a related, earlier thread where some mindless lads and lasses where hailing Fashola to the skies and I didnt get it!

It was then that what you just wrote dawned on me on double standards and clannish sentiments got to me

Nigeria is a joke that benefits the so-called political elites and the mega rich! This system is far from workable;

My standard of assessing governance has been in creative management leadership which has a strong vision that it "drags" it's even unwilling citizens to see and not just one that is purely administrative

God bless you sir!

You see some attacking others, calling for their heads, quick to castigate, but WILL be quick to justify same for members of their evil-cut, either because of stupidity, foolishness or bigotry.

Honestly, Nigeria has a very long way to go.

You defend your criminals, rejoice at their appointment and rain all manners of insult to another fellow criminal just because they are not in your party of interest. embarassed

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by homesteady(m): 9:17pm On Oct 14, 2015
MayorofLagos:


Indictment is a technical term and substantial to break of law or violation of rules. If Fashola's action was under investigation the Senate, as the rule and law makers, shohld have put him under oath.

What he said is under record but it was not submitted under examination of guilt or lack of.

You are scandalous and turning a job interview into a legal cross examination. You are a fraud! How do you like to carry labels?

Cc: Lalasticlala and Obinoscopy

Is his choice of using 'indictment' your only problem here? undecided SMH

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by olapluto(m): 9:17pm On Oct 14, 2015
izzyu:


tribal propagandists on the loose.
Is that your best shot? Give your name to the OP to add to his list of 'cc'.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by izzyu(m): 9:18pm On Oct 14, 2015
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tribal propagandists on the loose.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by maupe: 9:18pm On Oct 14, 2015
The ministerial screening, beside its boring antecedents, produced something important. It showed that Nigerians are sorry to say, unintelligent. The general perception of the performance of the ministerial nominees was adduced by all and sundry, as an intelligent and successful showing, but the truth begs to differ
* FAYEMI, was at best a disgrace to his profession and alma mater. He could not successfully give a direct answer to the mountain of allegations, of his financial mismanagement while in office
* Amina Mohammed was talking to herself, and at best sounded like the average female customer care official at the local bank
* Dambazau was so scared of being publicly riducled, that he barely answered any question posed at him
* Audu Ogbeh, stupiD1y implicated himself as a financier and founder of BOKO HARAM
* Fashola, despite being a lawyer with a degree from the prestigious University of Benin, ended up sounding like your average armed robber paraded by the police for the cameras. Its basic law 101, that ignorance of a crime is not innocence
And these people were applauded by the populace. We are in TROUBLE.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by teamchocolate: 9:18pm On Oct 14, 2015
Which of the citizens, better show me ur cerificate of origin or forever get lost.. crying more than the bereaved undecided


Firefire:


Yes, but the citizens demands accountability and stewardship.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by Firefire(m): 9:18pm On Oct 14, 2015
MayorofLagos:


Submit a citizen complaint to Lagos State House of Assembly.

In addition you can also sue on behalf of citizens of Lagos and initiate a tribunal review in the case.

Have you done any of these?

Academic jargon.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by Nobody: 9:18pm On Oct 14, 2015
kamair237:
Op

cry me a river.....


make sure it flows long and run deep....
wailer....
as usual...robot...learn to criticise government officials...its the only way we can move forward as a country...many here came out to praise fashola for his smooth talk but failed to see that they've been fooled once again by our politicians...

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by blkmum700: 9:19pm On Oct 14, 2015
aresa:




@ Op the Disgraced and discredited ignorant can't read and comprehend protection seeker.

Please when you are done with your latest idiocy and foolery, show us where Fashola or the commissioner signed any checks and last time the world checked, signing checks and the rubbish you posted are 2 different things..

Many of the nuisance wailers on NL post better half baked than you so you are a lousy and sub par wailer...

I don't know maybe written amphigory make one intelligent,the op for some times now have been written tommyrot to some gullible wailers who thinks he's cognoscenti when it comes to politics,my problem with his tommyrot is how they easily make front page.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by Olufemiolaolu(m): 9:20pm On Oct 14, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
At the ministerial screening earlier today ex-Lagos state governor Raji Fashola was asked a direct question regarding the N78million appropriated for the building of personal website. Here was Fashola's response...



While we all agree that award of contract is an Institutional process, FASHOLA refused to tell the Senate that the process is only finalised when the relevant commissioner in charge of the affected ministry append his/her signature as prescribed by Section 30(5) of Lagos State Public procurement Law (2011) which Fashola signed into law... In fact subsection 5 was very clear...

30.— (1)   There is established by this Law in each of the State’s Ministry, Extra-ministerial Office/Department/Agency, Parastatal, Corporation, a Tenders’ Board.

(2)   Subject to the approval of the Board, the Agency shall from time to time prescribe the membership of the Tenders’ Board.

(3)   The Tenders’ Board shall have power to award and be responsible for the procurements of goods, works and services within the benchmark set in the Regulations to this Law.

(4)   In all cases where there is a need for pre-qualifications, the Chairman of the Tenders’ Board shall constitute a technical evaluation subcommittee of the Tenders’ Board charged with the responsibility for the evaluation of bids which shall be made up of professional staff of the procuring entity and the Secretary of the Tenders Board who shall also be the Chairman of the Evaluation subcommittee.

(5)   The decision of the Tenders’ Board shall be communicated to the Commissioner for implementation.
(EMPHASIS Mine)
http://www.lagosppa.gov.ng/ppa-law/tenders’-boards

Fashola Indicts Himself:
From the section (SPECIFICALLY subsection 5) it is expressly clear that the Fashola's administration through the affected Commissioner 'okayed' the contract to be awarded at that RIDICULOUS amount. We should also note that Commissioners are not elected but appointed by Governors and they report to Governors. That means the affected Commissioner must have reported the said contract to then Governor Fashola while reporting the activities of his ministry to his boss.

Looking at the defence that Fashola put up and placing it side by side with procedure, two things can be deduced;

1. Fashola was aware of the whole thing but deliberately LIED before the Senate to cover his track. He was fully aware of the deal. The job of the Commissioner is to ensure that contracts by the Tender Board is in the public interest. His/her signature is a testament of endorsement. Fashola as briefed but deliberately refused to revoke nor question the contract. In fact, he was silent about it until Ambode raised alarm. OR

2. Fashola was not aware thereby making him complacent of his duties as governor of Lagos state. If this is true (which is doubtful), then we beg to ask how many more inflated contracts went undetected by the Governor? This second is a statement of incompetence.

Both 1 and 2 are indicting if we look at them from any angle..

The 'I Never Signed Chequ' Holds No Water
The Fashola's 'I never signed cheque' statement is untenable anywhere. No Governor or Presidents signs cheque for the award of contract in Nigeria. There are Accountants that effect payment. What is required of the political officers is to APPROVE contracts for the Accountants to issue cheques. So why should Fashola use that as defence? Let me also remind all that NO Governor or President 'steal' or inflate contracts directly! The process to loot has always been INFLATION of contracts through relevant Commissioners/D-Gs etc.

It is however unfortunate that the Senate FAILED to ask relevant question but instead nod their heads in ignorance. It is very shameful that the same Nigerians that called for the head of Princess Stella Oduah over the N260million vehicle were singing Fashola's praise for the shabby defence that he put up.



May God Bless Us All
May u wail 4ever. Shioor

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by homesteady(m): 9:20pm On Oct 14, 2015
I was really enjoying his session until he came up with that silly reply.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by CHUKSKALIDONN: 9:20pm On Oct 14, 2015
basty:

You are a daft wailer. Can you compare Fashola to Oduah. Idiotic bush fellow.
Aren't they comparable? Try to hear yourself at times.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by jogojogo: 9:20pm On Oct 14, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
At the ministerial screening earlier today ex-Lagos state governor Raji Fashola was asked a direct question regarding the N78million appropriated for the building of personal website. Here was Fashola's response...



While we all agree that award of contract is an Institutional process, FASHOLA refused to tell the Senate that the process is only finalised when the relevant commissioner in charge of the affected ministry append his/her signature as prescribed by Section 30(5) of Lagos State Public procurement Law (2011) which Fashola signed into law... In fact subsection 5 was very clear...

30.— (1)   There is established by this Law in each of the State’s Ministry, Extra-ministerial Office/Department/Agency, Parastatal, Corporation, a Tenders’ Board.

(2)   Subject to the approval of the Board, the Agency shall from time to time prescribe the membership of the Tenders’ Board.

(3)   The Tenders’ Board shall have power to award and be responsible for the procurements of goods, works and services within the benchmark set in the Regulations to this Law.

(4)   In all cases where there is a need for pre-qualifications, the Chairman of the Tenders’ Board shall constitute a technical evaluation subcommittee of the Tenders’ Board charged with the responsibility for the evaluation of bids which shall be made up of professional staff of the procuring entity and the Secretary of the Tenders Board who shall also be the Chairman of the Evaluation subcommittee.

(5)   The decision of the Tenders’ Board shall be communicated to the Commissioner for implementation.
(EMPHASIS Mine)
http://www.lagosppa.gov.ng/ppa-law/tenders’-boards

Fashola Indicts Himself:
From the section (SPECIFICALLY subsection 5) it is expressly clear that the Fashola's administration through the affected Commissioner 'okayed' the contract to be awarded at that RIDICULOUS amount. We should also note that Commissioners are not elected but appointed by Governors and they report to Governors. That means the affected Commissioner must have reported the said contract to then Governor Fashola while reporting the activities of his ministry to his boss.

Looking at the defence that Fashola put up and placing it side by side with procedure, two things can be deduced;

1. Fashola was aware of the whole thing but deliberately LIED before the Senate to cover his track. He was fully aware of the deal. The job of the Commissioner is to ensure that contracts by the Tender Board is in the public interest. His/her signature is a testament of endorsement. Fashola as briefed but deliberately refused to revoke nor question the contract. In fact, he was silent about it until Ambode raised alarm. OR

2. Fashola was not aware thereby making him complacent of his duties as governor of Lagos state. If this is true (which is doubtful), then we beg to ask how many more inflated contracts went undetected by the Governor? This second is a statement of incompetence.

Both 1 and 2 are indicting if we look at them from any angle..

The 'I Never Signed Chequ' Holds No Water
The Fashola's 'I never signed cheque' statement is untenable anywhere. No Governor or Presidents signs cheque for the award of contract in Nigeria. There are Accountants that effect payment. What is required of the political officers is to APPROVE contracts for the Accountants to issue cheques. So why should Fashola use that as defence? Let me also remind all that NO Governor or President 'steal' or inflate contracts directly! The process to loot has always been INFLATION of contracts through relevant Commissioners/D-Gs etc.

It is however unfortunate that the Senate FAILED to ask relevant question but instead nod their heads in ignorance. It is very shameful that the same Nigerians that called for the head of Princess Stella Oduah over the N260million vehicle were singing Fashola's praise for the shabby defence that he put up.



May God Bless Us All

I have always been on the other side of your opinion but on this one, you re SPOT ON. Only sentiment would make me disagree with you on this point.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Fashola Indicts Himself Before The Senate by Nobody: 9:21pm On Oct 14, 2015
TIMEISWISDOM:
I watched in awe as Nigerians especially the educated youths were celebrating the ignorance of the senators and irresponsibility of Fashola.

I have always said it that Nigerians greatest problem remains poor educational system that churns out half baked graduates who can barely make rational decisions.
No wonder the ruling class will always tell us to our face that we are not yet ready to take over leadership.
Once he is our tribesmen, or on the good side of the majority in our immediate environment, we swallow whatever the said person offers hook, line and sinker without any thought.

The coming generation of Nigerians leaders could be far worse than the present!
you said it all bro...present youths,most of them are foolish to the core...the whole house swallowed fasholas display hook line and sinker...its such a pity...watch and see how they would do same for ameachi once he dribbles them like Lionel messi...

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